Why BioShock Deserves the Dead Space Remake Treatment

Dead Space recently received a popular remake that was faithful yet constructive, and the original BioShock is also deserving of this treatment.

[banger88]

No it doesn't need it. It was remastered in 60 fps last gen and still looks and plays great. Would be a waste of time, money and resources imo. It's games from 3 or 4 gens back that could use the remake treatment.

[FallenAngel1984]

There have already been 7th gen remakes of games already

Dead Space in particular already proves that just because a game looks good on original hardware doesn’t mean it cant look and play better

[Jin_Sakai]

Agreed although I’m ready for some new groundbreaking IP this generation.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Agreed. Remasters already happened and still look n play fantastic. DS was a different animal. It needed a remake, Bioshock doesn't NEED it. Infinite Remastered for example is extremely viable even today. What we do need is Bioshock 4. Rumors that equated to zip. Where is it? Ken really blew the pooch as well. Left to go do what? He was inspired by Tell Tale or something and went off to become irrelevant. Nice. And Bioshock Vita was scrapped. Fantastic.

[toxic-inferno]

Bioshock 4 is definitely still in development. News trickles out about it every couple of months.

And Ken's next game (Judas) looks great from the teaser trailer.

[goldwyncq]

Like TLOU?

[IamTylerDurden1]

Yeah. Pretty much. I understand why they did it with TLOU to coincide with the show but certainly it didn't NEED a remake desperately. Obviously u are trolling and expect me defend anything Sony but idgaf about all that. I say what i feel is the truth.

Just like TLOU i wouldn't be upset if Bioshock received a remake but it doesn't desperately need it. I'd probably even play it bc like TLOU, i love Bioshock, but in these aren't identical scenarios either. Ppl kill ND for TLOU Remake yet it wasn't even their project originaly. It started as a potential Uncharted remake and passion project via Visual Arts and was passed to Bend i believe? ND took over bc the project obviously wasn't where it needed to be. And yet they still had Factions and possibly TLOU 3 in development as well. Bioshock has been dormant for a decade bar the remaster. Rumors of a sequel haven't materialised. A remake without a sequel would be disappointing. TLOU Remake is more tolerable knowing sequel/spinoffs are in development. Like i said, dif situation.

[neutralgamer1992]

It's not all about looks only

Tweaks to story
Tweaks to characters
Improvements to gameplay

Original bioshock have the worst puzzle solving system and can get frustrating quickly

[WiiU-Dude]

The last part you said I agree COMPLETELY!!! Game companies need to mine games from the Sega Saturn, PS1 and N64 days and even the Dreamcast, GameCube, and PS2 days to give a full update to. I know those would require more work, but there are PLENTY of gems from those days that people would LOVE to play again or for the first time with a facelift!!! I know I would.

[Binarycode]

The games that need remaking are.

Resistance fall of man.
Motorstorm.

PS5 would produce something special.

There's been such an advancement in tech since the PS3 days. It would be awesome. DAY 1 BUY for me.

[Storm23]

I would kill for Resistance 1-3 Remake/Remaster. Same with MotorStorm series and Killzone series. Man, I loved my PS3. Can we also get the Metal Gear series and rescue MGS4 off the PS3? There is a rumor of MGS3 getting a remake. One of, if not my number 1, favorite game of all time.

On topic, I played Bioshock like 6 months after release after hearing from everyone and their mother how incredible it was. I know I will be in the minority on this, but I couldn't get into it. I think my expectations were too high. Totally my fault. Maybe I should give it another chance...

[goldwyncq]

MGS4
Red Dead 1

[IamTylerDurden1]

Agreed, Killzone as well, but Sony has no interest in the future of those IP. It won't happen. If they cared about Motorstorm they wouldn't have axed Evolution. The last remaster from a dead studio "Wipeout" was exceptional yet nobody supported it. Even with a free VR inclusion. If ppl want these remasters...actually support the ones that release. Medievil same thing. Ppl cried for Demon's Souls Remake, The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3 and the sales didn't match the cries. None of these games sold as u would imagine given the internet pleas for these titles over a decade or more. DeS Remake did alright but given the circumstances it should've sold better. 92 Meta, PS5 launch exclusive, stunning visuals, and the first of the genre in an age where Eldin Ring will push 30 million units. Yes, DeS is only one platform but still.

[Binarycode]

I do agree mostly with what you said.

I bought killzone,2,3. Did not like 4 other then it's graphics.

I bought infamous 1,2. Second son never did it for me apart from again the graphics, so parts were good. But world felt too empty. Probably needed a PS5 to do it justice.

Bought all the Resistance and Motorstorms, those games were awesome. They 100% need a remake.

PS3 was just an awesome machine, I know it was a pain to develop for, but it had some many titles that I loved.
I really enjoyed the Bioshock series, the first 2 were best. Very good games.

As for Demon souls.and the souls series in general. They never have had massive sales. I think because they are very hard games. we are talking a million or less. I think the remaster did 1.4million.

Motorstorm pacific rift did 1.4million PS3.I think.

Hopefully some of them will come back.

[-Foxtrot]

I would love this

Expand on the lore

Incorporate Bioshock Infinite and Bioshock 2 plot lines

Add room rooms or maybe even an extra area

Maybe new plasmids

Give Jack a personality and add voice acting, it worked for Isaac. Jack did speak at the start of the game so adding onto that and giving him convos between Atlas or Ryan would be great

[Aussiesummer]

Man could you imagine what bioshock would look like in ue5 with full raytracing, phwaaarrrhh.

[gangsta_red]

I wouldn't mind a BioShock remake only because I felt the combat could have been better. The combat in part 2 was great but the story was terrible.

If they can incorporate the fighting mechanics from part 2 and Infinite then perhaps.

But BioShock for me is really known for it's incredible story. The twist at the end is the biggest "oh sh**" moment and what solidifies the game as fantastic. Already knowing this for a remake would cheapen the experience.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

I am wondering what Ken Levine is working one with his company in Boston

[toxic-inferno]

Judas: https://youtu.be/hSrgezyVfF...

[CrimsonWing69]

How about sequels instead of remakes? Like how we used to do it back in the olden days. It’s a miracle if we get a sequel now…

[Christopher]

Really? I feel we mostly get sequels now, but the items being remade are big titles for their time and translate to big titles now and overlook some new titles making them look more numerous than they are.

[CrimsonWing69]

Why not a Dead Space 4, why not a Demon's Souls 2, why not a Shadow of Colossus 2, why not a Silent Hill 5, why not a new Tony Hawk, why not a... well you get the picture.

Let's say they do make a BioShock Remake, will there be a new entry? All's I'm saying is let's make new entries and try to outdo the previous entries instead of just making new versions of the game we already played. I'd rather have the original and a sequel than the original and a prettier version of the original.

[Christopher]

You act like these few games, most of them with sequels or spiritual successors, are the entirety of sequels. The answer? Probably sales. Maybe Dead Space Remake is to test making a sequel after the lower sales of DS3? Demons Souls is Sony IP and FromSoft is trying to stick to 3rd-party titles. SoC is kind of its own story and wouldn't make much sense to see a sequel, would it?

But, also, the developers behind them kind of don't want to be stuck in making the same thing over and over.

And, again, there are a *ton* of sequels being made today. Tons.

[FallenAngel1984]

@ Crimson

- Dead Space was dormant for a long time and the series wasn’t necessarily moving a ton of units. This remake can gauge interest in another title

- From Software went onto make Dark Souls, Bloodborne, & Elden Ring wh Ch all granted

[FallenAngel1984]

@ Crimson

We still frequently get sequels, unless you haven’t noticed it. You’ve got to be living under a rock if you think remakes outnumber sequels

The answer for all your examples should be obvious

- Dead Space wasn’t a big seller an EA would feel safer remaking the game to gauge interest in the future of the series.

- FromSoftware went onto make Dark Souls, Bloodborne, & Elden Ring which are all more successful than Demon’s Souls. What reason would they specifically have to return to that specific IP when they had more success with spiritual successors?

- Team ICO went onto make The Last Guardian, which is in the same thematic series as SotC

- Name one successful new skateboarding game in the last 10 years. That genre is dead. Rhythm games used to be big but died. When Guitar Hero and Rock Band we’re brought back they failed to catch on. Activision seeing this knew it would’ve made more financial sense to remake previously acclaimed games rather than a new one in a dead genre like they tried with Guitar Hero prior.

A remake in a dormant series can lead to a new entry. And if it doesn’t the series wouldn’t have had a new entry to begin with. Remakes and remasters are great ways for devs and consumers to experience for the first time(because not everyone plays every game the first time it’s available) or relive a game with modern improvements.

The dev team that made Bioshock got shut down. Ken Levine is currently working on a game called Judas. So not only would you get a new game from the creator of Bioshock, you’d get a remake as well. Hard to complain about such a thing unless you just want to be a contrarian for the sake of it

[Stanjara]

No it doesn't!
I don't want it to be adopted for the modern audience.

Leave it alone, Ang give some new ips.

[Profchaos]

No it doesn't it features a cartoonish art style which holds up fine because it wasn't going for ultra realism

[Dwarrior]

It's too easy to get caught up in remaking successful games/shows/movies from the past. Remaking remakes. It's getting out of hand. Money spent on these things would be better spent on new and original ideas.

Have creators just run out of ideas? Industry too stuck on playing it safe? I think so.

[MadLad]

Yeah guys;
Let's just keep rebuying our entire game collection, guys. Doesn't that sound fun, guys?!

[REDGUM]

I couldn't agree more & less on this one.
I only replayed this just last year on the ps5 and Bioshock has aged so well and felt like a fresh game with the 60fps etc. Loved it, infact its in my top 5 games of all time. It doesn't need a remake that said I'd definitely play it again if it was spruced up again.

[ibrake4naps]

With VR support. Rapture would look phenomenal!

[LucidIllusion]

No it doesn't