I'm sorry I expected the games they said that were gonna be at the event. They had one more game so that's a plus.
The event did what it was supposed to. Was I interested in those games. Personally, no not really. Redfall was the only game that I was interested in going in. That's not to say the other games and communities don't matter, those games simply aren't for me. I'll have to ding Forza for not having a release date. That game most definitely won't be out until after the 12 months. Sucks for Forza fans Il say.
I like this style of direct MS should do more of them. How they present the games was great we just need bigger games next time under this format.
The format was excellent IMO. My problem was that Arkane wasn't able to justify $70 for Redfall. Yes, graphics aren't everything, but even Pure Xbox has criticism of the value the game offers.
My suspicion is that Microsoft wants to release a $20 Game Pass tier that includes various DLC's/Deluxe Editions....and Redfall will be the initial guinea pig for this service. $100 for a new IP that we still know little about is ridiculous IMO.
Well according to many Youtubers and media like IGN it seems that the Redfall showing was quite a success https://www.ign.com/article...
Perhaps you should reread your article because what they are talking about isn't the value of the 70$ games but the value of the deluxe edition "We're very, very happy to see Arkane's Redfall finally dated; slotting into the upcoming Xbox Game Pass 2023 schedule on May 2nd. While the game's inclusion in Microsoft's subscription service provides incredible value (the game is $70 to buy separately), we're not quite sure the same can be said for its Deluxe upgrade."
Also, just like Hi-Fi Rush, it seems that the Redfall showing was received quite well by the majority of gaming media or popular YouTubers.
It was well done. I liked the format and...Hi-fi coming out of nowhere and actually being good? That's the kind of stuff that gets people excited for sure.
The format was refreshingly good. Not much time was wasted on development speak as decent gameplay footage was shown throughout the duration of the direct.
Previous MS developer events showed devs on chairs hyping their own projects and MS shills projecting fake enthusiastic vibes.
This was more down to earth, gamer friendly event in my opinion
The Forza presentation was great. I would have liked a release date. Hi-Fi was a fantastic surprise! Not a fan of cell shade, but Hi-Fi does it right. Very original. Other than that, it was okay. Hi-Fi helped a lot.
I agree, the lack of the release date for Forza was disappointing. Hopefully it is still first half of the year but this leads me to believe otherwise.
I expected exactly what we got, as they said they would only show those 4 games. Hi Fi Rush was a surprise and the only thing I didn't get what I expected was a Forza release date. Was a good show by M$
This isn't year one of Xbox series. If you did not expect more than what was shown then you don't expect much from Xbox at all. That's not a good thing. Where the hell is State of decay 3. Where is perfect dark where is Fable? Where is an update on halo? How about some update on the next Doom or Wolfenstein or whatever else they're working on. Hi-Fi Rush was a nice surprise but that's all it was just nice because there was no previous mention of it. It almost feels like a product that was put in place in order to appease the crowd. Hey we have nothing else to show you that you really want to see but look at this game that's releasing now.
And while people are happy about that game I'm actually concerned for the developers. Reason being that their scope of games are usually bigger than Hi-Fi Rush. Has their budget been cut?
And I think people are missing the pattern but consider that since Microsoft has bought some of these developers the results have been: bleeding edge, pentiment, and now HiFi Rush.... All significantly smaller in scope from what the devs would normally release. In fact they've all been games that normally fall under indie and or live service. Bleeding edge as a live service failed miserably.
I agree with everything in this comment, but realize that Shawn Layden warned us that AAA game development was unsustainable. The "pattern" you're seeing of more quality AA games being released (Tunic, Sifu, Death's Door, Hi-Fi Rush, Stray etc.) will become the norm for Playstation as well.
AAA games take 3-5 years to make. The difference between Xbox and Playstation is that they pad their release schedule in different ways: Playstation with 3rd party timed AAA exclusives (FF16, FF7 Remake Part 2, KOTOR Remake etc.) and Xbox with 1st party AA games (Hi-Fi Rush, As Dusk Falls ) that are permanently exclusive.
Even though I "prefer" more AAA games on Xbox, 1st party AA games are a better long-term strategy because at least you own those IPs and have full control of them.
Sony probably wanted SF6 to be a PS5 exclusive just like SF5, but likely couldn't get exclusivity because Capcom didn't give them a good deal. The timed exclusive route isn't sustainable in the long-run.
Yeah I completely agree...I tend to enjoy AA games more than AAA. In most cases.
But I don't entirely buy the unsustainable thing. Just think of those old classics. Perfect dark and Diddy Kong racing for example. Incredible games that deserve their remakes. Those games had tons of content and likey didn't cost anywhere near as much as AAA cost today.
For me a triple A game doesn't mean big open world. Just means an incredible game. I consider hollow knight an indie AAA title. AAA means quality to me...whether they spent 10 million or 10 billion it doesn't matter to me.
AAA was meant to insinuate the title had quality and was bug free or more polished than average. That's hasn't been the case with most self proclaimed AAA games.
The problem is that final fantasy sells tons of consoles hi-fi and dust don't.
The better strategy is combining both like Sony did last year. Good AA games aren't enough.
What they are made is for services. Nothing more. With the amount of studios that Microsoft already have its impossible not to have multiple AAA games every year. Why they don't have, that's another thing.
That's why you can still find a game like miles morales, from launch, coming back in to the charts but Sifu or stray won't.
"This isn't year one of Xbox series. If you did not expect more than what was shown then you don't expect much from Xbox at all."
Naw MS was transparent from the jump. If Sony said, on x, y and z will be at their sate of play. Would you say I expected more! No you wouldn't be.
"Where the hell is State of decay 3. Where is perfect dark where is Fable? Where is an update on halo? How about some update on the next Doom or Wolfenstein or whatever else they're working on. "
We're you expecting all that in a 45 minute direct!? Those games were never hinted, mentioned, rumored or anything. You're reaching hard for excuses badly. Expect all that at E3 this year obviously.
"It almost feels like a product that was put in place in order to appease the crowd. Hey we have nothing else to show you that you really want to see but look at this game that's releasing now"
Yeah imagine being transparent in what was shown only to have someone ignore all that and was expecting Avowed now he's all up in arms and it's all your fault because they can't read and wanted more. Imagine that.
"And while people are happy about that game I'm actually concerned for the developers. Reason being that their scope of games are usually bigger than Hi-Fi Rush. Has their budget been cut?"
Tango wants to expand beyond just making horror and wants to Make other games on a small scale. The smaller games in between their bigger projects. Plus didn't they just release Ghost Wire Tokyo not even a year ago? You already expecting another big title so soon? You have very unrealistic expectations.
"Microsoft has bought some of these developers the results have been: bleeding edge, pentiment, and now HiFi Rush...."
Bleeding Edge Was a side passion project NT wanted to make along side HB2. Pentiment was also a side passion project led by Josh Sawyer. Main project Avowed.
Bleeding Edge, the last I heard, is surprisingly hanging in there. I agree the game wasn't that good.
You're literally finding anything to complain about. Just grabbing at anything. You do have a terrible track record when it comes to you commenting on Xbox related stuff so it all makes sense.
The big savior for Microsoft’s first party exclusives is “Starfield”, and I think we all expect to see some gameplay for a game that is supposed to release this year. Getting Cyberpunk 2077 feels.
I really enjoy the presentation because it wasn't a let's show 60+ trailers of potential games coming in the future in 1-hour presentation. Showing 4-5 games allowed each game to breathe and make them feel like a real game that has some passionate ppl working on them versus potentially great trailers like Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn that I'm sure the majority already forgot. Also, they gave us lots of Gameplay footage that again, help us digest the game and connect to it. As an example, I had no idea that Minecraft Legends was similar to Starcraft for I always believed that it was another expansion or the same type of game as Minecraft. Now my take on it is that it's a MOBA/Starcraft game each fills a role.
And to conclude, I'm sure Hi-Fi Rush would have not received the same WOW response if the game was crammed between 20 others games. I'm sure Pentiment would have better recognition if introduced in a similar presentation.
So yeah keep the format but most importantly, take a page out of Sony's playbook that makes feels each game important. There's a reason why Stray released with tons of coverage and hype versus Pentiment, As dusk Falls, and Grounded.
I expected Avowed and Hell Blade 2!
I'm sorry I expected the games they said that were gonna be at the event. They had one more game so that's a plus.
The event did what it was supposed to. Was I interested in those games. Personally, no not really. Redfall was the only game that I was interested in going in. That's not to say the other games and communities don't matter, those games simply aren't for me. I'll have to ding Forza for not having a release date. That game most definitely won't be out until after the 12 months. Sucks for Forza fans Il say.
I like this style of direct MS should do more of them. How they present the games was great we just need bigger games next time under this format.
It seems to me that Microsoft and Sony are doing the same thing now. They're only showing exactly what is ready to be shown and nothing else.
Hi-fi rush was a really pleasant surprise. I enjoyed this Xbox event more than the past ones recently.
The Forza presentation was great. I would have liked a release date. Hi-Fi was a fantastic surprise! Not a fan of cell shade, but Hi-Fi does it right. Very original. Other than that, it was okay. Hi-Fi helped a lot.