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Microsoft looks to Sony for help in its defense against FTC lawsuit

To hold its own against the FTC and acquire Activision Blizzard, Microsoft has filed a subpoena against Sony so it can build a defense against the US regulator.

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Orchard452d ago

Smart move. Subpoenaing them for their revenue data - this will instantly disprove Sony's "oh woe is me, we're bankrupt without Activision" stance.

blackblades452d ago

Wasnt it you or was it someone else said it'll go threw smoothly. It doesnt seem like its going smoothly whoever thought it would. I would go back to check but its not worth it.

Orchard452d ago

I said it will go through but only with concessions in court.

Whether you consider that smoothly or not is up to you :P

MrNinosan452d ago

Yepp, he changed his wording last couple of months, but from the beginning it was a smoth walk, and lately it's been with some terms etc.

-Foxtrot452d ago

"oh woe is me"

Lol. You mean Microsofts ENTIRE counter defence through all this.

Outside_ofthe_Box452d ago

Exactly, Microsoft is the one that's like "oh woe is me Sony won't let us compete by letting us remove a slew of multiplat games from their platform."

-Foxtrot452d ago

Oh totally

I mean say what you want about Sony and their response to all this BUT think about it, if they were that wrong, if they had no point at all it would have been easy as hell for Microsoft to bitch slap them down a peg or two, enough for Sony to back off but here's the thing, what has Microsoft done? Oh yeah, their counter claims have literally been about talking shit and down playing themselves

That they are small as a company
Downplayed Gamepass
Said Sony's exclusives were better
That franchises like Elder Scrolls or their new IP Starfield were only "mid sized games"

So they just made it easy for Sony rather than getting into some well thought out counter claims

shinoff2183452d ago

Elder scrolls is by no means a mid size game

As of March 2022 Todd Howard said it had sold 30 million copies. That is not a mid size game. Ms is trying to hard and it's making them look bad even though being born in the 80s I grew up during the 80s and 90s I know ms is shiesty

Fragslayer450d ago

Meh you all have your points but they just dont hold. Yes how they are acquiring exclusives should irritate some people. Im not rich and own almost every console made (long time hobby). But your points are moot I expected this to be a spectacle but in the end it should go through. Cause your the same people who have said Xbox sucks cause it has no exclusives blah blah blah. Now people are irritated that long established IPs potentially could be. If MS is smart they should keep COD multi plat I honestly don't see them not doing so. They aren't jumping out the gate with that cause maybe Sony and the rest of these hoops (FTC) will demand more I dunno honestly. Really MS just wants the Devs to compete cause if your saying Sony's exclusives arent better when you referred to MS argument your in Denial. Starfield you haven't lost anything its a new IP amd Sony would have done the SAME thing. Sony is to established to it any other way right now and MS is heavily invested. I accepted having to buy all the consoles to get everything I want. If this doesn't go through then the FTC and people like you are the problem in this world. Competition helps anything period especially gaming. The Sega Nintendo battle was epic and really gave us great stuff. COD i see staying multiplat and just hitting Gamepass cause clearly that's MS goldem goose. If not then sure its stupid and i feel for Sony loyalists but still don't think it ahould stop anything. I don't see you anyone saying its bs Sony is keeping FF off Xbox? I mean they just started getting it the remake was supposed to come to and isn't... throwing stones is just stupid ill enjoy FF on my PS5 but some of my friends can't. If your REALLY thinking Sony is a victim in this your batcrap crazy period. Won't bother checking with replies cause its so dumb im just sick of seeing these same responses to this. Just buy a Xbox to and welcome to 2022 forward. They even made it easy for you the the S bye bye now.

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Godmars290452d ago

How is asking for examples of how the franchise is doing on Playstation consoles prior to the sale going to prove the sale wont effect anything?

Asplundh452d ago

The idea isn't to prove whether or not it will effect Sony, it's to determine just how much it would effect them. Microsoft is hoping that it will show that Sony would be in a healthy position even without ActiBlizz games.

shinoff2183452d ago

Orchy I don't think you know what your talking about just green knighting

SoulWarrior452d ago (Edited 452d ago )

"woe is me" when the one trying to acquire is spouting a loud of rubbish painting themselves as the poor little 2 trillion company that can't compete unless they can start a monopoly? :(

MS have done nothing but lie to get this pushed through, inflating Sony's exclusives, making baseless assumptions regarding the exclusity of some FF titles, playing themselves down as the little guy, already proving they can't be trusted, for example with Bethesda, first it was 3 years of CoD, then 10 years, then CoD will always ship on PS as long as it exists, which is it? All Phil does is lie and blow hot air.

Vengeance1138452d ago (Edited 452d ago )

Don't you mean Microsoft's "oh woe is me, we desperately need to own Actiblizz to compete" MS is beyond playing wounded dog alot more than Sony.

crazyCoconuts452d ago

Does it have to go so far as bankrupt Sony for it to be considered "wrong"? Anyway, even with sales numbers, it's difficult to estimate how many people would leave Playstation if Minecraft, Doom, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Wolfenstein AND Call of Duty suddenly were no longer available on the platform. Probably wouldn't bankrupt them but I don't know if that makes it "right"

SurgicalMenace452d ago

Some people just don't get when to concede....

Christopher452d ago

Dumb move. They're essentially asking for insider info which isn't going to happen.

I honestly can't believe you're saying anything supportive of this request when the equivalent sharing of Microsoft info would prove how they spend even more money with lesser results based on known spending and Microsoft's claims of being unable to compete.

How amazing Microsoft was killing it and winning this geration with the Series X and Game Pass, let alone breaking their own records, but now Sony is too powerful to be stopped and without ActiBlizz they can't compete.

1Victor452d ago

@christ “Dumb move. They're essentially asking for insider info which isn't going to happen. ”

I don’t think so it’s a smart move if they can learn how to manage their studios from Sony papers as they hope to, not knowing that the secret sauce is not on the papers it’s in their trust on their developers and the freedom they give them.
I can give you the recipe for my amaretto cheese cake after trying it but that doesn’t means you’ll have the experience to make it as good

SullysCigar452d ago

It is dumb.

They're essentially asking for their biggest competitor to be legally required to divulge inside information on how they plan to compete in the coming years.

You've got to expect that to rankle the CMA...

Hofstaderman452d ago (Edited 452d ago )

@ MrNinosan;Them goal posts not even moved to another field, they on another field in a galaxy located in alternate universe on a divergent timeline.

S2Killinit452d ago (Edited 452d ago )

MS gas been lying left and right just get this passed. I mean have at least a shred of decency for god’s sake. Trying to take multiplats.

notachance452d ago

looking at how people like you zealously defend XB even when they’re doing shit like this, I’m pretty sure they’re a religion or something.

Even Nintendo got lambasted to hell by their fans with mediocre console like Wii U, yet XB with 2 straight gens of shitty libraries still managed to have a devoted fan like you, truly amazing leadership from Phil.

gold_drake452d ago

u say that about sony
but ms is 'woe is me, we cant survive without exclusived so we need to buy them" stance.

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giovonni452d ago

The title is nothing more but click bait, and to cause emotional reactions. Orchard you are correct, this is a smart move by Microsoft because it forces Sony to come to court and prove their statements. The title makes it seem like MS is asking for Sony’s help. When it’s really a request to come to court and prove your statements.

Hofstaderman451d ago

I’ve never seen so many disagrees…I think we have a record here

ChiefofLoliPolice451d ago (Edited 451d ago )

"Oh woe is me"

That's literally MS defense of this. Their ONLY defense.