Perfect Dark's Development Troubles Highlight Growing Pains

The prolonged development cycle for the Perfect Dark reboot demonstrates the difficulty in reviving a classic espionage IP in the modern era.

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rlow171d ago

I just want to see more about this game. After this much time, it better be good. Because after Halos debacle launch, Xbox can’t have another one of those.

Number1TailzFan70d ago

Yeah, i really enjoyed Goldeneye 64 and Perfect Dark as well back in the day, but after getting into PC gaming in 99 it's just so hard to play some games with a controller, FPS games being the obvious #1 target here. Can't wait to see what it's like, here's to hoping it stays true to the original and i might have to get it on PC, especially if it has decent online multiplayer on top of a great campaign.

mark_parch68d ago

What do you mean 'all this time' it only got revealed 2 years ago.

Crows9069d ago

No debacle?

Remember fable legends? Crackdown 3? Scale bound? Halo 5? Sea of thieves is just another live service that had really poor support. I'd say most of their games have been a debacle....don't think that'll change soon.

1Victor69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

@crows and that’s the reason along with the monopoly why I’m afraid of Microsoft buying ABK

Microsoft is horrible at managing studios and we are supposed to believe that a miracle will happen and they’re going to have all those amazing games coming down the pipeline monthly with all the bells and whistles of the generations

porkChop69d ago

Fair point with most of those, except for Sea of Thieves. I can't agree with that. As someone's who's actually played the game, it factually did not have "poor support". It launched with far too little content but it didn't stay that way. Tons of content and QoL improvements have been added to the game since then. It's not quite a NMS turnaround but it's far better support than gamers usually get.

Mcardle69d ago

Sea of Thieves has had poor support? What on earth are you talking about, its one of the best supported live service games there is.

sadraiden69d ago

@1victor not like AB is doing well with their studios themselves. turning every game into a f2p model, hoping for whales to save your company, isn't a great plan.

Lightning7769d ago (Edited 69d ago )

"Sea of thieves is just another live service that had really poor support."

You know how many expansions that game has? It has quite a bit so how is it getting "poorly supported"

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Jin_Sakai69d ago

What a shit show over at Xbox Studios. Everything seems to be in turmoil at this point.

-Foxtrot71d ago

I just think after Halo it makes you think about their other games

Perfect Dark has had development troubles

Rare has shown us nothing on Everwild and lets be honest Sea of Thieves wasn't all that great

Gears of War seems to be missing in action, this was a massive franchise for them next to Halo

State of Decay 3 is still missing

Fable is another

I mean don't get me wrong we still have Redfall, Avowed, Starfield, The Outer Worlds 2 etc but these were things already being developed by Zenimax's studios before being bought.

shinoff218371d ago

Starfield outer worlds and state of decay are about what I'm looking forward to. O and can't forget fallout way way down the line

Outside_ofthe_Box70d ago

"but these were things already being developed by Zenimax's studios before being bought."

Hence why Microsoft is buying established multiplatform studios with their own long term foundation that way there's no way in hell they can mess those up unless a grest number of key people leave.

mkis00768d ago

Yes but what comes next? Does MS have the managerial talent to start something rather than just coming in after it has begun? With this many studios?

sparky7769d ago

Sea of Thieves is Rare's most successful game and one of the few GaaS successes in recent times. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not a great game.

-Foxtrot69d ago

It’s not a good game, it took them years to get it to a point which is acceptable

The launch was awful

If you like barebone shit fair enough but most of us don’t

sparky7769d ago

It is a good game or no one would still be playing it after all these years.

Fortnite was terrible at launch look at it now.
No Mans Sky was terrible at launch look at it now.
FF14 was terrible at launch look at it now.

And on and on and on.

Most GaaS games suck at the start but the good ones find their way and succeed like SoT. You don't have to like GaaS, most hardcore gamers who are on these sites don't, but saying SoT is a flop and a bad game is just an out right lie.

sadraiden69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

GaaS is a cancer on gaming. It's a shitty business model meant to separate you from your cash in insidious, come-back-tomorrow-for-even-mo re-exploitation ways.

If you like it, fine, but yeah, they're not actually good games.

Rude-ro69d ago

The only “perceived” success of that game was Microsofts paid streamer sponsorships and kids who watched them.

RedDevils68d ago

"doesn't mean it's not a great game." Yeah, it's a shit game.

tbagmonster68d ago

foxtrot, what are you getting elswhere thats better, gas games dont exist on playstation excpet the ones that are everywher else

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Sonic188169d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Hellblade as well. How long has it been? They are probably still in the early stages

Lightning7769d ago

Speculation it'll be out late this year.

Lightning7769d ago

I do heavy research all across the internet all the time I don't just sit on here for info because they don't post juicy rumors or even certain news here you'll miss out on ALLOT of news if this this is the only site you use. At least that's what I noticed. Always scour the internet for info and news not just N4G.

The game started in 2019 it'll be 4 years in development later this year. That's why I was confused on your statement on the game being early development. Unless the game had dev issues but I haven't heard anything like that so far.

Sonic188169d ago

That's a rumor not official release date

Lightning7769d ago

That's why I called it "speculation " it's definitely not in early development no matter how bad you want it to be.

Sonic188168d ago

"Definitely not in early development no matter how bad you want it to be."

Why would I want that? 🤔🤔

Lightning7768d ago

Because the info was obvious. Why would it be early stages? That makes no sense.

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oIMyersIo69d ago

I agree on all but Sea of Thieves.
That game is a gem to play with mates now.
Granted, at launch it was lackluster.

I hope the event in a few days has some updates on the likes of PD, Gears, SoD, etc but they have said it isn’t an “E3 scale show” so I’m not holding my breath. Over two years into this generation and there’s.….very little on Xbox compared to the competitors.

sadraiden69d ago

Expecting a Gears 6 when Gears 5 came out only 3 years ago, expecting a State of Decay 3 when 2 came out 5 years ago, is the reason why we can't have original titles. Everything has to be a franchise or else it doesn't get made because no one is interested apparently. People just want samey experiences over and over again.

Rare is not the quality developer that any of us remember. Expecting greatness out of them is a mistake. Perfect Dark being MIA is predictable given how tepid the response was to Zero on 360 and how tonally different it was from the N64 game. Ultimately, PD is one of those games that hasn't fared well in the age of remake/reboot culture.

I just think xbox owners are nervous at the prospect of yet another generation lost to only a handful of decent 1st party exclusives. Starfield, if it does indeed come out this year, won't be an Xbox exclusive. Redfall, when it comes out in 2027, won't be an Xbox exclusive.

onisama69d ago

The outer world is from obsidian studio

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shinoff218371d ago

I think ms just has a management problem thats why there's always some type of issue with their studios, not all of them but damn it's pretty common

Noskypeno69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

They have like what 23 studios? Out of every one of them, why can't just 2 or 3 create a smaller scaled game, just an 8 -12 hr linear campaign, similar to Uncharted or Gears? It doesn't have to reinvent the wheel, just be a fun game. It shouldn't take 7 years to develop that kind of game. It seems like they want every game to be a large scaled game comparable to GTA.

azzkikr850268d ago

Think the Issue with linear/short games is once it's done and dusted people move on. This does not work will for the game pass model as it needs people to continue their subs long after they finish the game. This is were gaas model works with a sub service as the game never ends until support dries up. This is another reason why Sony is going down this route. Main difference is Sony still pumping out amazing single player/linear games

mkis00768d ago

Gamepass need Gaas or lots of expansion content. otherwise it wont be viable long term. Ubisoft uses in game currency too much and that is an even bigger problem then gaas.

RpgSama69d ago (Edited 69d ago )


Whenever they talk about MS is usually bad news, even when we get announcements they come with an *.

The * is either no release timeframe, multiple delays down the line, troubles with development, cancellations or just games not living up to their announcements.

XiNatsuDragnel69d ago

Nintendo and playstation don't have such problem as mismanagement or what we see it tbh.

isarai71d ago

I think it highlights more MSs inability to manage and nurture they're 1st party.

SullysCigar69d ago

Pretty much. Isn't this the game that lost it's director last year? That would likely have caused significant upheaval.

Lightning7771d ago

Actually the last we herd the game is doing much better development wise. Though I still wouldn't hold my breath to be shown off at E3.

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