Hogwarts Legacy, the new Harry Potter game, comes with Denuvo on Steam

Hogwarts Legacy, the upcoming Harry Potter game starring Simon Pegg and set in the world of Gryffindor and Hogsmeade, will use Denuvo when you buy it on Steam

[MadLad]

Lol.
Publishers/devs never learn.

[Lore]

What is the history/issue with denuvo? I’m a console gamer so i’m out of the loop

[MadLad]

Terrible anti-pirate software that's known to hamper performance on many titles, though typically gets cracked not long after it launches. Sometimes even before it launches, if there were leaked copies.

So it basically just hurts those who want to buy it legitimately. Usually just pushing people to torrent it, or buy it at a deep sale after they eventually remove it.

[Snookies12]

Yeah, I was honestly looking forward to getting this on PC... Now with this news, and the 32GB Ram for ultra settings is kind of putting a damper on that. Something that is taking that much ram to run, paired with Denuvo possibly hampering performance on top of that. I just don't know... We'll see when it launches I suppose.

I'll be picking the game up on console or PC either way. Just going to probably wait a day or two to see what people think of each port. Then I will decide what system I want it for.

[banger88]

"typically gets cracked not long after it launches"

https://n4g.com/news/253074...

[MadLad]

Honestly guy, it's not worth it to me to to blatantly prove this article false.

What it does show me though is how less and less companies are using the software. It's basically just a small handful of the same publishers on specific titles, and most of those titles have shown a correlation between implementation of the software and questionable performance issues at launch.

As a PC gamer, anyone who uses Denuvo loses a sale until they remove it. Usually now deeply discounted. If it's the rare game I absolutely need day one I'll get it on console. I'm just not going to add to whatever metric they go by that adding a crap software like Denuvo does equate to more PC sales.

[IanTH]

Honestly, the bottom line is it ultimately doesn't matter if that's true. I question if it is, but I'll take their word for it. The fact is it is demonstrable as to how negative the impact on performance is. The same site you linked tells of how much worse performance in RE Village was with Denuvo vs cracked.

It linked to an article about how every title had much worse performance, from loading to framerate to frametimes. It was so bad in Doom Eternal that, after they added it 2 months after release, they removed it within a week.

No one would have a problem with them protecting their product if whatever they used didn't actually make what you purchased worse. It'd be a minor salve if all publishers that used Denuvo vowed to remove it once it was cracked, but the fact a paying customer could ever have a worse experience than someone who paid for it? Shouldn't ever happen. I kind of think Valve shouldn't even allow it on their storefront, given their motto of how to get people to pay for software. Denuvo flies directly in the face of that.

[just_looken]

denuvo also requires internet connection no internet your game will not boot up.

https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

I would also like to add as someone with a 12th gen intel cpu this drm will have major issues with pcores.

i have been unable to play any denuvo games on my intel 12gen rig with a 3080 Always bad fps or crashing

but i use my 3700x rig with a 6650xt the game works.

Performance is always worse with this drm though for sure.

i got cylisto for free via amd rewards had this experiance just 2 days ago.

[Crows90]

At least the title doesn't include the word "controversial" or "boycotted"

[Imalwaysright]

This is one of the few games I'm genuinely interested to see how it will be reviewed considering that is being used as a political and ideological battleground.

[Crows90]

Last time I saw stuff like this written was with days gone. So pretty sure it may have the same results....although harry potter is a much bigger IP.

[Kados]

Guess i'll be waiting for the TPB version of this also. I refuse to install Denuvo on my system.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Waiting for EMPRESS to crack it.😎

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Give it time EMPRESS will probably crack it and other Denuvo games😁
https://www.wired.com/story... Old article on her.
If it was on GOG I might have bought it if the game turned out to be good. GOG = DRM free, best to support them.

[esherwood]

So you ‘might’ have bought it if they just trusted everyone wouldn’t steal there work? I’m sure They’ve ran the numbers and all you justice warriors acting like your only stealing it because they’ve hurt your feelings by accusing you where actually going to steal it anyway. Lol u people are ridiculous. If it’s a good game that isn’t built around mt’s I’ll support them and whatever they feel they have to do to protect there work so I can continue to get them.

[CantThinkOfAUsername]

EMPRESS is an attention-seeking drama queen. She asks for $500 to crack a Denuvo game.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

That I know, which is why this might take a long time 😁

[IanTH]

I've always found that kind of thing funny. Like when custom firmware developers, who expressly go around piracy controls, put anti-piracy software in their own product so *their* work can't get stolen.

But when the majority of people who pirate the game never have the intention to pay for it in the first place, I'm not sure how you'd get $500. I guess if you could get 100 people to chip in $5 a piece it'd be worth it for them, but otherwise you might as well just buy it or wait for a sale lol.

[sadraiden]

The only thing that would really cap this entire game's pre-release saga would be if it was a buggy disaster like Cyberpunk. Ahhhh mastapeece.

[esherwood]

Can’t blame someone for at least trying to protect there work. The reality is people steal this crap and if they did nothing to stop there’d be no games. And the ones using this to justify stealing it where the ones who where going to steal it anyway and the whole reason we have to deal with this crap to begin with

[KeeseToast]

I can definitely blame a company for offering a worse experience to their paying customers, then if i would just wait for a cracked version.
" if they did nothing to stop there’d be no games" tons of games come out without this crap and sell just fine

[Good-Smurf]

Now I know why it requires 32 GB of RAM on higher settings at 1440p/4K.

[Jaces]

Canceled on Steam but bought again on PS5 XD
Denuvo is a no go for me, sorry Steam.

[ken2813]

Hog/Leg is not a Harry Potter game

[IanTH]

I get what you mean, but HP is used as the shorthand for the universe as well. Kinda like saying "the new Marvel game". I agree it's not great, but most people know what is meant.

[eXclurel]

I don't think the guy who wrote the article knows anything about Harry Potter. He just googled Harry Potter and chose random words to describe the wizarding world.

[Kekewei]

Is denuvo really that bad?