PS5 vs. Xbox Series X: After 2 years, it's clear that the PS5 is a better buy for most gamers

Ultimately, each system has its own strengths and weaknesses that might push buyers in one direction or the other. After two years with both consoles and several quality of life updates from Microsoft and Sony, we've broken down what each system does best to help you decide which is right for your needs.

[darthv72]

I own and play both. Guess that makes me not like most gamers... an outcast. Or as Peewee puts it:
https://youtu.be/VvxjunUV0j...

[Jin_Sakai]

Not everyone can afford multiple consoles, games, and subscriptions.

[darthv72]

I listened to the words of Ken Kutaragi. I guess other chose not to.

[Orchard]

@Jin Then the better option is to go for a PC.

A PC will last you the entire generation (and then some), typically has cheaper games, free online / no sub required, and will play everything from MS & Sony. The only thing you won't get is Switch/Nintendo games.

[Jin_Sakai]

“and will play everything from MS & Sony.“

True except you have to wait for play at action games which I love to play day 1.

[Orchard]

@Jim For now, yes. But for how much longer?

Plus, you said 'Not everyone can afford multiple consoles, games, and subscriptions.'

If you're that tight on cash, waiting a bit and saving money is probably an acceptable sacrifice.

[Nacho_Z]

@Orchard

A PC will play everything from Sony? Nope.

[Jin_Sakai]

“True except you have to wait for play at action games which I love to play day 1.”

*play at action=PlayStation

Thanks autocorrect.

[Orchard]

@Nacho But it will. Jim Ryan & Herman Hulst have said so themselves. Also, by FY25, only 50% of PS 1st party game sales will be on PlayStation consoles (according to Sony)

@Jin Yeah lol, at first I was like "What is play at action?" then it clicked :P But hey, I typoed your name as Jim in my last comment, so I'm equally as guilty.

[blackblades]

Rather spend the money on vr2 and steam deck to go along with the ps5

[S2Killinit]

Yup. I would prefer a PS5 and a PSVR2. I already have a PC. And I’ll get whatever Nintendo might come out with.

[blackblades]

@Orchard did you just contradict yourself "will play everything from MS & Sony" then posted

"by FY25, only 50% of PS 1st party game sales will be on PlayStation consoles (according to Sony)"

meaning 50% will not be on pc which you cant play everything from Sony which pc still cant play some of Sony game right now as well or I'm missing something.

[darkrider]

It's simple you now what expect from Sony. Quality games. Not that hard to choose. Generation after generation. Not promises, not teraflops, not best lineup in history of videogaming, not endless PR, not pay to win, games. Big blockbusters games that push forward videogaming. One got them another doesn't.

[SierraGuy]

Playstation does what Xbox DON'T.

[Abear21]

Not everyone has the time or space for all that plastic.

[Babadook7]

“Then the better option is to go for a PC.

A PC will last you the entire generation (and then some), typically has cheaper games,”

@Orchard
Ps5 will last you a generation, and by reselling disc games, will give you the cheapest cost of ownership. Pc is always more pricey per spec too.

PS + is very affordable and comes with decent games to boot. If you have to play online PC is still more pricy because you can never resell your Games and pricier up front cost.

Getting games later (FF7 R) is not an option for many.

[n1kki6]

But everyone can complain and console war

[jznrpg]

I can afford all of it but I don’t feel like I’m missing anything with xbox at all . I had a steamdeck preordered but after looking at the steam store there wasn’t anything that I wanted that wasn’t multiplat and digital stuff was generally more expensive or the same price as physical ps4/5 copies so I canceled it .

With PSVR2 coming out , a ton of PS5 games , some japanese PS4 games and some Nintendo games I want also (Fire Emblem and eventually Zelda) I have best of everything I want when they come out .
PS5 performance is plenty for me and I love the near instant loading and dual sense and PSVR2 just another reason to own PS5 besides it’s library that I don’t have to wait for or hope it comes someday . Same with Nintendo , I get games day 1 when something I want comes out , I do wish it had more power but the games are good despite the very weak specs .

[SeTTriP]

I can afford both but Xbox isn't deserving of my support, I did not buy a next gen console to play old updated games a mid range p.c does that better and has been doing it for decades.
Ps on the other hand has been killing it from day one constantly push gaming forward (a next gen design console, controller, a nice selection of next gen only games, 40fps Is a welcome change if you have the Tele for it, the constant support for they're 1st party titles, the accessibility options etc)
I'm not into wasting money just so I can flex and say I have both on a gaming website. Xbox is just getting participation trophies from the media at this point it's really not being objectively look at.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

So 3rd party titles are old and outdated.

[MADGameR]

What is the benefits of playing X BOX Series over the PS5? Absolutely nothing because X Box has NO exclusives.

[shinoff2183]

Some people just ain't in that position. Noayter the reasons.

[Latex74]

Me too lol no regrets what so ever

[crazyCoconuts]

Article doesn't highlight that you can get a digital version for $100 less which, if you don't do physical, makes it even more of a slam dunk

[purple101]

So your telling me, the best deal in gaming is a ps5 digital & ps+ deluxe subscription.

Who'd have thought.

Just checked they have:

death stranding
demon souls
Returnal
Ghost of Tushima
& Spiderman all for ps5 too.

So although not day1 games (save for, stray a smaller game, day1) these games are relatively new, within 2 years or so.

[crazyCoconuts]

Personally I'd just do PS Plus Essential ($60/year). Another thing that isn't often mentioned is you get a set of games right of the bat that you can play (PS+ Collection) which includes the prior God of War and Days Gone among other games. In addition to PS+ essential games blowing XBG games away, that's another benefit.

[purple101]

Yes your right..

Buy a ps5. Sub to ps+ (even the cheapest one) get these games free.
games list, as confirmed by Sony:

Batman: Arkham Knight
Battlefield 1
Bloodborne
Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 (Zombie Chronicles Edition)
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Days Gone
Detroit: Become Human
Fallout 4
Final Fantasy 15
God of War
Infamous Second Son
Monster Hunter World
Mortal Kombat X
Persona 5
Ratchet and Clank
Resident Evil 7: Biohazard
The Last Guardian
The Last of Us Remastered
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
Until Dawn

[KillBill]

Well seeing that less 3 million people are subscribed to the PS+ deluxe tier(premium I assume is what you meant as there is no deluxe tier subscription) I have to imagine nobody is aware of said 'PS5 best deal in gaming' value.

[Aussieguy]

Anything digital only is not the best option, specially on a console, because you are limited to only being able to buy games from the digital store and you miss out on having the option to buy games much cheaper from multiple places.

I been looking for some older games on the xbox series x on the MS store and couldn't believe some of the crazy prices for some games that are 5 plus years old. They are still $100 where I live (which is the RRP here for new games) and you can buy those same games for 1/3 of the price new from shops and much cheaper used.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

PS+ essential can be had for $45-$55 if you look around. You need it for cloud saves.

[ActualEngineer]

You can buy a gaming Pc for 200 300 more, instead, and you will be instantly saving a truckload of money on games - I buy games new from CDKEY sites for steam at 40 - 50 instead of 70-80 and anything golden than a year almost dirt cheap.

Almost you will be playing MS and SONY "exclusives" st the same time and ALSO it's a damn PC for crying out loud...

Plus it's backwards compatible with EVERYTHING, thanks to emulators.

[sadraiden]

While I don't think cd key websites are a good thing, they can be a method of getting a game at a cheaper price, if it isn't already on sale on steam. Steam sales are so frequent, and my backlog so huge, that sites like G2A just don't lure me in.

Then you have Epic giving away 1-2 games away for free per week (daily during Christmas), random Steam giveaways, random GOG giveaways, random Battlenet giveaways, etc.

Then you have the reality that many games on Steam are just priced regularly $10 cheaper than their console counterparts.

People think you need a 4090 and a 13th gen i9 to game on a PC, which is simply not true. You can have a reliable emulation PC for $300, and a machine that plays all the latest games at decent settings for under $2000. Then you know, you have a PC that does everything a PC can do. It's a no brainer.

[thecodingart]

A decent rig that is only moderately better than my ps5 costs around $3000 dollars, which includes an i9 and 3090Ti card. You absolutely are not getting a “better” PC over a PS5 <$2.5-3k.

I’d know because I own both..

Games are definitely cheaper on PC, but the backwards compatibility notes have caveats if you prefer to play games with controllers. It really wasn’t until fairly recently that PC games were made with controllers in mind. Try playing Morrowind or Oblivion for example..

[Babadook7]

“instead, and you will be instantly saving a truckload of money on games…

I buy games new from CDKEY sites for steam at 40 - 50 instead of 70-80 and anything golden ”

I’ll let you in on a secret few pc guys would know. You can get games even cheaper by buying discs (used if you really want cheap) and reselling them. That’s much cheaper than even PC sales.

And because of that, console gaming is cheaper and tends to offer a better experience per $.

[VariantAEC]

Or you can buy a cheap smartphone which covers all your PC needs (productivity meaning spreadsheets emails and all) and game properly on a console anyway. I think most people will choose this option and still save way more money and more importantly years of their lives not trying to buy a minimum spec desktop PC just to optimize games for it every time their PC farts and screws everything up all just so they can look less like a "console simp", "pleb" or "peasant" for people like you.

These days PCs are largely irrelevant which is why so few people actually do anything on them for fun. It's actually the reason Ken Kutaragi called named his console "PlayStation"; PCs are for work PS is for fun.

[purple101]

Only 'most' gamers heh? ;)

[Lightning77]

It is. It's simple people want to complicate things one has must buy games the other doesn't and no gamepass isn't enough either. Maybe again maybe they can turn things around if they can get their games out.

[--Onilink--]

Is it though? Most people who are “hardcore” gamer enough to visit this kind of site tend to think the “bubble” in which we live in applies for the majority, but just a quick glance at 1st party game sales against the install base of the PS4 should tell you that they only really reach a small fraction of the users, regardless of how amazing the games might be.

Its part of the strange behavior for game sales, even Nintendo which has by far the biggest attach rates for first party games ends up selling only to a fraction of its users.

So if the majority of the install base isnt actually buying the 1st party titles, does it really matter which console they have?

[DigitalDaniel]

You're spot on. The majority don't really care about the exclusives. People can disagree as much as they want but this is a fact that has been backed up by sales and engagement for a very long time already. Fortnite, Call of Duty, FIFA, GTA 5, Apex Legends, Overwatch, Rocket League, Minecraft. All of these games are the top played games year after year. No Playstation, Xbox or Nintendo exclusive comes even close.

This is what the majority plays.

[SeTTriP]

You make a fair point but hard-core gamers has always been the life blood of gaming (call of duty wouldn't be as big as it is without core gamers word of mouth, or gta for that matter)
We influence the industry in a big way.

[--Onilink--]

@SeTTriP

I agree, the most loyal part of the user base is and always be the biggest factor because they represent the most consistent source of revenue for these companies and they also include the biggest spenders (not to mention they dont really make most of the revenue from console sales but from software)

[Chevalier]

Well then it makes sense that Playstation would be the best choice then. Their fans intersect where they have the best of BOTH worlds in high 1st party sales AND the biggest 3rd party hits/sales as well. Top for general audience like COD/ NBA 2K/ Fifa/ Madden sales then add in 1st party hits too then its easy to see why Playstation is the best choice for gamers. Xbox has services and Nintendo is mainly 1st party sales. Just compare attach rates and you can see Playstation gamers buy the most games per system over the others.

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.c...

https://vgsales.fandom.com/...

[Orchard]

For me, I have a PS5 only right now but I know I'll end up with both. I always end up with all the consoles by the end of a generation (minus all the refreshes).

[Hofstaderman]

And I have a Xbox Series X only right now…

[darkrider]

And I got series s only right now...

[Orchard]

If that’s the console you want that’s fine.

[SullysCigar]

Yeah, I've only got a Soulja Boy, but I know I'll end up with a Stadia. I can afford them all, no problem, because I'm the C3PO of Bullcrap Studios..

[blackblades]

U getting the vr2 and steam deck

[Orchard]

I picked up a Steam Deck. No plans for VR at this time (PSVR or otherwise).

You?

[blackblades]

Both when I can, its just comes down to which one 1st

[Orchard]

What made you wait til now for the SD?

[attilayavuzer]

Your console of choice + Steam Deck seems to be the move this gen

[blackblades]

Its been clear that ps5 is the better buy at year one, ita been clear ps4 was the better buy last gen. Its just some people are to deep in MS bull to see clearly. Some of those people xdealer colt whoever say they buy Sony system for the exclusives and Xbox for everything else because "it's the most powerfule system" and thats it's.

[--Onilink--]

I mean, most first party games dont even reach 10 million sales, let alone 20-30 like the biggest games, and that is on an install base of more than 100million.

Its clear the vast majority of people dont actually care about first party titles and people who visit gaming sites or are on top of first party releases arent really the majority, we are just the more consistent source of revenue for these companies.

But people should really stop thinking that the purchase habits of people who come to this kind of sites really reflects what the average consumer cares about

[kneon]

You are assuming it's always the same people that are buying the first party games, which is almost certainly wrong. Different games appeal to different people, people don't buy a game just because it's a first party game.

[CBaoth]

wow. Have you even looked Sony's and Nintendo's 1st party sales? This would be the list to end all lists. Honestly go do some research and you'll understand why I have so much animosity vs MS right now. They haven't had a 10mil seller since Halo 3. IndiePass ensures they never will again. GOWR passed 10mil in 10 weeks. Do they even care? Wouldn't be a real issue if they weren't trying to kill off third party sales

[--Onilink--]

@kneon and yet they still have the same overall sale number. Does it really matter if its not the same people buying Ghost of Tsushima that bought Ratchet when its still only reaching less than 10% of the install base (or less than 4% in the case of Ratchet) ? Not to mention the whole point of the dedicated hardcore install base is that its the one that usually buys most of the exclusives anyway. So if you were to assume that between exclusives there was practically no overlap of users, it would make for a pretty fractured hardcore base

Its not really a subjective thing and it applies to all consoles on different levels, but its the reality of the games market.

The vast vast majority of console owners dont care about exclusives.

Its only the most “hardcore” gamers, which is not like they are not an important part, its the most consistent revenue source for these companies and also where the biggest spenders are.

But anyone thinking that overall console sales are because of 1st party games are a bit naive (just look at how much Nintendo’s sales can change from one gen to the other even still having the same popular franchises and quality games).

Just as everything on the mainstream side of things, these are brands at this point. The power of the brand, marketing and any kind of disruptive opportunities they get are what really drive sales.

[--Onilink--]

@Cbaoth

Yes I have, and even the game that has the biggest attach rate and that nothing on Sony’s side even comes close (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe) and has the benefit of being the kind of evergreen game that Nintendo specializes has sold to less of the Switch’s userbase.

God of War 2018 has sold some 22 million, not even 1/5 of the entire console user base (and that is one of the highest PS4 sellers)

None of what you said really contradicts my point that the vast majority of people who buy any of the consoles dont actually buy first party games (or just a very small amount of them).

That is (and has been) the reality for all consoles. And there is nothing wrong with it, its just how the gaming market operates.
Each manufacturer has different strategies (with different levels of success) to try to appeals to as much of the mainstream market as possible while also keeping its hardcore userbase as happy and engaged as possible since it is its most consistent source of revenue (and consoles by themselves dont actually represent the majority of the profit)

[darkrider]

Keep saying that. That's why almost all the news are about exclusive and not 3rd party. That's why Sony generation after generation keeps destroying Microsoft. Quality first party games.

From your view Microsoft should be number one, but it's last and not even close. First party games define generations.

[--Onilink--]

@darkrider

Care to explain why not even the biggest 1st party titles reach 1/4 of the install base? (With the majority actually somewhere between 1/10 and and 1/7)

The playstation brand is significantly more popular than the Xbox brand. Yes, quality and popular games are a part of why the brand is big, but that still doesnt change the fact that the VAST majority of console owner are NOT buying those first party games.

It really is as simple as that. The sales numbers dont lie

[shinoff2183]

I see what yall mean about 3rd party and to a point your somewhat right but at the same time.

Me personally I'm not a huge gow fan so I didn't by it. Not everyone on either side is gonna like everything Sony Nintendo or Xbox puts out. I feel exclusives do mean alot. Not just first party exclusives either. I've always stuck with Sony cause there's alot of Japanese devs that don't do Xbox. For instance legend of heroes that's kinda been a Sony thing , zero is on the switch but if I'm choosing nin and ps I'm going with ps due to exclusives. Not to knock Nintendo exclusives cause I actually like alot of them i frew up with nintendo in the 80s and 90s hell even gamecube but I feel ps has better exclusives so I'm buying off of that. Ps has that history of bringing it and it's known. Xbox had Hella steam during 360 then toward the end of the 360 the steam evaporated.

[Chevalier]

Weird. Gow 20+ million, Uncharted 4 20+ million, Horizon 20+ million, Spiderman 33+ million, TLOU all sold 20+ million and a lot of Playstations other exclusives also sold 10+ million too.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

https://www.google.com/amp/...

https://gamerant.com/highes...

Not sure about you, but, Playstations top exclusives are in line with top selling COD and in the case of Spiderman beats even the top selling COD so maybe the majority do care? Because last I checked COD was one of the top franchises literally the 'majority' plays

[--Onilink--]

@Chevalier

Yes, each of those games has sold 20 million+, which means it only reached close to 1/6 of the PS4 user base… (90+ million PS4 users that have/had a PS4 and didnt buy any or most of those games)

Not sure why you are mentioning COD because I didnt.. its not an1st party game

Not sure why people somehow keep taking it like its some kind of attack on Sony when its something that applies for all consoles and its just part of how strange the gaming marketplace is for everyone.

But its a rather simple mathematical reality, the vast majority of PS4 owners are not buying those 1st party games (or a really small amount of them). Same with Xbox or Nintendo and their games

[CBaoth]

I got news to break it to ya amigo. Nintendo has great 1st party sales numbers because there is no 3rd party competition. How much does CoD sell annually on PS? Compare that to MH Rise, which is the Switch's best selling 3rd party game ALL-TIME at 9mil. See the difference?

And YES selling 10 mil is a great accomplishment. So selling 20 is fantastic regardless of pool size. Are you going to suggest Diablo 3 for example was a flop because it only sold 20mil to an estimated 300mil customers?

[--Onilink--]

@ CBaoth were exactly in anything that I’ve said suggest anything about the games sales being poor? Thats not even part of whats being discussed here

I literally said its how it works for the entire industry… even smaller titles can consider reaching 1+ million sales an accomplishment with a combined user base of more than 200 million consoles (+PC). It is exactly the same for everyone and just part of how strange the gaming market is that even with hundreds of millions consoles, software only ever reaches a really small fraction.

The point, in case its still no clear yet, that even the biggest successes for 1st party games (regardless of the console) are barely selling to 1/6 - 1/10 or their user base.

So if in the best case scenario you have 20 million people buying the game and 95 million people that DIDNT buy it. Can you really say that the biggest factor for console sales are those games when more than 6x people who have the console didnt buy those games?

Its just math, the majority of people who buy consoles honestly just purchase and play very few games for whatever reason that I’ve never quite understood (sure the used market accounts for some of that % difference, but its still too massive of a difference, even more so for 3rd party titles that are actually on an even bigger install base)

[VariantAEC]

@--Onilink--
There are billions of Windows PCs out there, BILLIONS!
How many Windows PC exclusive games sold through to one hundred million people?

Zero. So... like, what the •••• are you waffling on about?
What is important is that people are drawn to the platform to play games that they cannot get anywhere else.

PC as a platform whether Windows, OSX or Linux have the lowest barrier of entry for game developers so it's not surprising that many modern console games franchises got their start on PC.

BUT the fact of the matter remains that PCs openess has allowed piracy and entitlement to run amok and unfortunately overall sales are weak on PC. Once again their a BILLIONS of Windows PCs on Earth with hundreds of millions of active Windows PCs and Windows OS gets the most games not Linux and OSX is dead last (which is odd considering the huge push towards gaming in Apple's iOS HW lineup and in The App Store).

Anyway, like when was the last time users needed to buy a PC to have "the best game ever!"? It's been well over a decade and in my personal opinion (as someone who went out and purchased Crysis: Maximum Edition on Disc) it wasn't really worth it.

Crysis 1 was a super duper niche game as far as sales are concerned and of course I didn't have the HW to run it maxed out at the time and honestly the OG game still runs with some issues on my modern PC - That was before the disc version was rendered broken by MS itself (due to changes in how their operating system handled that game's {and many others} form of DRM).

Now with that in mind (the bits about how no PC game sold through to around 10% of their active userbase (roughly 100,000,000 units) where do PS exclusives that regularly sell to around or well over 10% of their userbase fare against Xbox Games?

If Xbox doesn't have any games to buy much less any games that cannot be had elsewhere for better deals or that run or look better, why do you think they'd be doing better than PS?

Additionally as everyone here has been trying to point out to you, no game or software needs to have a 1 to 1 attachment rate and ultimately no game does not even 3rd party titles so your point is completely moot especially when most 3rd party console and PC games sales direct from a source like Rockstar when they talk about GTA5 sales includes all the different software versions across all platforms for retail and digital.

Again no game needs to sell 1 to 1 to be considered worth buying the platform for if that were the case articles like this wouldn't even exist.

[S2Killinit]

It was clear from the beginning for me. But sure.

[KillBill]

Yet another journo that spouts the myth that Series S is holding back Series X games. All while touting in the same section God of War: Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7, Horizon: Forbidden West, and even directly comparing Spider-Man: Remastered PS5 versus PS4 version of Spider-Man. Guy hasn't a clue what he is talking about and just repeats what he has heard from fanboys.

And then he makes claims of the Series X being "less important" because of games being available on PC as well. Pretty sure the ability to purchase a single copy of a game and playing it on the Series X and PC makes it more an attractive choice than not. Just as the PSVR2 and PSVITA didn't not take away from PS systems. The argument is ridiculous.

And to add the two thoughts together they then comment of how PC versions of the games are often surpassing the Series X version while totally ignoring their argument previously of Series S holding back game development. You can't make this argument less ridiculous. lol

[Aussieguy]

Having owning a xbox series x since launch, they seem to be focusing a lot on their backwards compatibility and Gamepass and forgot about releasing first party games. I owned a ps4 last gen and Sony always had a big first party game releasing every few months.

With MS in 2 years plus the Series X has been out, the only games they have released and I've enjoyed are the new Halo and Forza Horizon 5. Its funny, they still rely so much on these 2 IPs since the Original xbox and 360 days and they need to release games quicker like Sony do.

[DarXyde]

Fair enough, mate.

Typically, I've owned every console every generation and I think I can say that since the original Xbox, the only time I can really say that Xbox nearly pulled me out of the PlayStation ecosystem was in the early years of the PS3 and Xbox 360. After that, it's really all been downhill for me and I'm now at a place where I not only have no faith in the quality of their content, I have a sincere and burning disdain for subscription services like XGP/PS+ in gaming and Microsoft's overall direction. I can live with Sony doing it only because it is clearly not at the heart of their identity the way XGP is. Quality just doesn't seem to be a priority for them and it's about buying major multiplatform publishers for them and rebranding those titles as exclusives and Day one XGP titles. That all said, I do not have a Series X|S, nor do I have any interest in one.

It's possible they surprise me in a few years and they end up with great content; Forza has been very consistent and I would give it the nod if compared to GT—less than popular opinion, but that's just where I'm at. I wish them good luck in making memorable games that are excellent, but even then, I really don't support their direction for gaming. I have my issues with Sony doing dumb, anti-consumer things, though that's another discussion.

My point being I understand your feeling of wondering about games. I'm less concerned about the time frame though. If it needs more time in the oven to make a great game, keep it in there until it's properly ready.

Then again, we're in the GaaS era, where the Miyamoto rule no longer applies.

[gold_drake]

it has the better games, thats important for any of us i feel like.

[DarthZoolu]

My friends and I love playing on Xbox and Game Pass because for the first time and maybe a decade we are actually playing the same games together

[Flawlessmic]

Water is also wet.

[ActualEngineer]

This journalist is a clown and it doesn't take a genius to realize that the actual article is an advertisement by sony, paid and accounted for.

If you have the money, opt for a gaming PC instead with a Bluetooth antenna and an Xbox controller. You can boot it into Steam big screen and if you opt for the Steam Beta build, the big screen becomes the SteamDeck UI.

Storage is dirt cheap, almost all exclusives are ported to PC and it is backwards compatible with ANYTHING. You can play switch games, you can play ps3, wii U, wii, gamecube, ps2 ... like almost anything and the upscaling is top notch with most emulators as the games end up being rendered at a higher resolution almost natively.

Then thanks to Sony and MS, almost all the exclusives are out for PC aswell, so you are not missing on anything.

[AmUnRa]

Yeah, when someone is a clown its your first sentence that gives it away.
You know you can promote PC as much as you want, i looks like you are paid to promote PC gaming. Most consolegamers dont give a f*ck about PC gaming, and your PCMasterrace promoters. Let that sink in.....

[FGHFGHFGH]

xbox controllers are locked at 125hz polling...not good

[banger88]

I got both; PS5 for exclusives and 3rd party games, Series X for backwards compatibility and emulation (and future exclusives...if we ever get them). I'm not interested in gaming on a PC, and I don't want a Switch.

[MegaLogic]

It's clear where those"opinion came from, and all those who are claiming that it's better to buy a PS5 if you can only afford one isn't really thinking about their own argument, if you can only afford one, it's only and absolutely essential that you get on Gamepass and that's the end of the discussion.

[SierraGuy]

Last time I checked playstation plus had way more games.... like hundreds more.

[SullysCigar]

It's also cheaper, but people are too busy running with the same old narrative to actually go and check lol

[MrNinosan]

PS+ Premium have 350 games more and is Cheaper. So why chose GamePass?

[darkrider]

Dude, with zero games. Doesn't make sense. Only this year if the games are coming makes sense buy a Microsoft console. Nobody except kids got time play many games. Indie and others. Without getting a ps5 you don't play goty quality games every single year. That simple.

[Elda]

I own both but I play my PS5 much more than the XBSX. With the upcoming lineup of decent games landing on GP this year, I will finally start playing my XBSX.

[yeahokwhatever]

playstation has been the obvious choice since 1996.

[metalhead]

I have both and only buy games on PS5 that aren’t on Gamepass. If you can save up for the extra expense and play regularly, the Xbox pays for itself after 6 brand new games are cleared. Even at the monthly cost it’s a steal.

If you can’t afford it, I’d choose the PS5 easily, but Xbox if I knew I wasn’t able to buy many games and just get gamepass.

[MrNinosan]

Why not PS+ Extra or Premium which is both cheaper and have more games?

[Rdeal]

because you only get old shit on PS+ and it's not cheaper

[VariantAEC]

@Rdeal
PS+ Essential - $9.99/mo or $24.99/quarter or $59.99/yr
PS+ Extra - $14.99/mo $39.99/quarter on sale now for $24.99) $99.99/yr (on sale now for $59.99)
PS+ Premium - $17.99/mo $49.99/quarter (on sale now $34.99) $119.99 (on sale now $79.99)
https://www.playstation.com...

Gamepass console $9.99/mo or $29.99/quarter *Xbox Live Gold sold separately
Gamepass PC - $9.99/mo or $29.99/quarter (includes EA Play) *Xbox live God sold separately
Gamepass Ultimate - $14.99/mo or $44.99/quarter included EA Play and Xbox Live Gold for console
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Buuut!
UPDATED on 1/22/2021 at 8:52 PM PT
"If you are an Xbox Live Gold member already, you stay at your current price for renewal. New and existing members can continue to enjoy Xbox Live Gold for the same prices they pay today. In the US, $9.99 for 1-month, $24.99 for 3-months, $39.99 for 6-months and $59.99 for retail 12-months."
https://news.xbox.com/en-us...

Comment published January 12th 2023 all prices were accurate at the time of writting. All prices listed in United States Dollars.

For those of us that can Math™ we see clearly that Xbox Live Gold $9.99/mo (119.88 a year) or as low as $59.99/year if you actually care to be a little smarter with your cash buying the yearly sub option plus Xbox Gamepass which is still separate and $119.88/year no matter what you choose amounts to a minimum of $179.87.
You will pay 1 cent more a year (before taxes) for a year of Xbox Gamepass Ultimate which includes Cloud EA Play and any future console attachments if you so choose.

Or you can pay $119.99 for the top tier of PlayStation Plus or as many in another thread mentioned earlier you can pay for a year of PlayStation Plus Extra at it's regular $79.99 asking price and still get more games for less than half the price of a full year of Xbox Gamepass Ultimate.

I'm no math Asian, but I'm pretty sure $80/yr is less than $180/yr.

[DOMination-]

Got both but other than to play FH5 and a bit of MSFS now and again the XSX isn't used. PlayStation has been my platform of choice for multiplats since the start of PS4 era and although most of the Sony exclusives so far this gen don't interest me, there's plenty of other exclusives that do (I mainly play visual novels/rpgs/indies)

[TheKingKratos]

You needed two years to know what everyone already knows ?! ...even Xbox fans know that since the late half of ps3 life

[Panhandler]

I have 3 Xbox series X for myself and 2 boys. 24 months of free game pass on all 3. I get to share home Xbox accounts between my sons. So that anything bought, the other account gets to play it. Sony offers nothing that I'd play that I can't play on Xbox. In fact my some of my most played games in the past have been Elder Scrolls and Fallout. With Stalker 2 and Starfield on the horizon I don't see a reason to change. Not sold on Redfall at all.

[boing1]

Duh. Digital with higher tier of PS+ is the way to go IMO. Especially if you already have a PC. Hell, I even streamed Gears of War and Forza from game pass app on my phone, to my TV, with connected dualshock 4 via bt. Surprisingly playable. Xbox consoles will start to feel kind of redundant at some point imo.

[Destiny1080]

with no games, its difficult to remember it even exists

[Orchard]

Disagree. PS5 has lots of games.

Just because they’re on PS4 too doesn’t mean they aren’t PS5 games.

[XBManiac]

Undoubtedly. You can use Game Pass on an PC, tablet, Xbox One or directly on the TV... with no Series X/s needed for playing "Xbox" games. But what PS5 has to offer, only PS5 has.

[CrimsonWing69]

It really boils down to exclusives to me and that’s where Sony trumps Xbox. I will say Gamepass is an amazing value, but again, Sony just has better games, in my opinion.

[Panhandler]

Will it in the future though?

[CrimsonWing69]

Well, that’s the thing I’m hoping for. I’m wanting MS to have some really heavy hitters to go up against Sony’s offerings. When you start getting both sides delivering amazing exclusives it creates actual competition that benefits the consumers, as both will try to outdo the other.

However, all I see is “it’s coming soon” with Xbox and that’s getting tiresome. I’m still waiting for Hellblade 2… how that’s not out yet is beyond me.

[Panhandler]

Honestly that's all MS can say until the product is finished. Because putting out an unfinished game has backfired on every platform but MS cannot afford to squander Starfield or Stalker 2

[mudakoshaka]

As an owner of both an Xbox and PS5, I mostly play on the PS5. I have not bought a single Xbox game but use it sometimes for some Game Pass titles. I subscribe for like a month when I want to play something on Game Pass.

PS5 is just more fun with the DualSense, VR, and the amazing exclusive games that they make. Xbox is just a machine without any heart.

[sadraiden]

Still no price drop. Still only a small handful of decent exclusives. Paying $1000 for a console, a game, an extra controller, and then whatever a WD Black ssd costs, is still a bad value proposition in 2023 during a recession. Now we're hearing that PS5's cpu thermal paste melts in vertical orientation causing hardware failures? Yeah, I'll stick with my modestly priced PC from 4 years ago that blows the console specs away. A PC is still a better buy for most gamers.

[IanTH]

I'm a PC & console guy myself, and game probably 90% of the time on PC, but I'm curious what modestly priced PC you have from 4 years ago that can blow away current gen consoles? I mean, the only thing that really "blows away" current consoles from a GPU from 4 years back is pretty much going to be an RTX 2080Ti, which also cost $1000 on its own.

And it is $400-$500 for a PS5, and you don't need a WD Black SSD. Buying a PC, you'd need to buy yourself a good SSD anyway. You can pretty much use whatever Gen 4 drive you want, it'll just warn you about it maybe being too slow for some games. I think it is a hard sell to say that building a PC is a better buy than a $500 device, you need games, storage, and extra controllers if you want them for guests on PC as well.

Game bundles, generally quicker & steeper sales for game ownership, more flexibility, no paying for online - PC has tons of benefits, but a console - in a recession - gonna be a better bet than a PC. Especially when you're stuck looking at WAY overpriced new GPUs and old stock GPUs that still really need some price cuts.

[Petebloodyonion]

I always love these articles that basically contradict themselves with their own arguments just to please a bigger fanbase.

Perhaps the author could explain how the same argument is suddenly a strength for Playstation but a weakness for Xbox.

"PS5 boasts a growing list of exclusive titles that aren't available on Xbox or computers — like God of War: Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7, Horizon: Forbidden West, Returnal, and Demon's Souls — and they all serve as great showcases for new gaming tech.
Comparing the PS5 remasters of The Last of Us Part I and Spider-Man to their PS4 versions also perfectly demonstrates what's possible with the newer console."

And

"Microsoft has taken a more inclusive approach with games on Xbox platforms. New Xbox originals, like Halo Infinite and Forza Horizon 5, are still designed to work on older Xbox One consoles and Windows PCs.

These games still perform at high levels on the Series X, but there are compromises in design that make them feel less advanced when compared to PS5's top offerings that have been built specifically with the console's strengths in mind."

Aren't the majority of PS5 games designed for PS4 with the limitation of Ps4 in mind?
So how come God of War, Spiderman, Horizon, GT7, Demon Soul and TL part 1 should be praised for showcasing what's possible on PS5 but games like Starfield, and Forza should be left out because of PC?

[Kakashi Hatake]

Forza is the same thing every year. It's time Xbox fans stop pretending they actually play it.

[Petebloodyonion]

I'm sorry but your comment is as dumb as saying that Uncharted and Tlou are the same game because they use the same engine and are both 3rd person shooters.
Forza Motorsport is a sim racer.
Forza Horizon is an arcade open-world racer.

[purple101]

only Ratchet & Clank, Returnal & Demon Souls are next gen, everything else cross gen,

still more than ms has done, so point still stands

[Petebloodyonion]

Demon soul is a Graphical remake or the same exact PS3 game
Returnal will be available on PC (see comments of Starfield not ok because it's PC).
So Great! 1 game out of the lot suddenly justifies the whole author's argument.

[Chevalier]

Sorry this take is so idiotic. PC games generally won't be jumping onto console gaming and the opposite is generally true too. The idea that the games are available on PC at a later date doesn't change the fact that fans would rather play the top games day 1. Xbox might offer these experience day 1, but, that point is moot with how few games are available for Xbox. Even Xbox own reports to FTC show there are far more exclusives and much better ones on Playstation. Playstation by far has more and better quality exclusives.

Spiderman 33+ million
Uncharted 4 20+ million
TLOU 20+ million
GoW 24+ million
Horizon 20+ million

Mostly from console sales too. So I would say it's pretty clear the writer is right. The sales prove it. PS5 also confirmed 30+ million sales too. Best game attach rates for consoles too. So yeah Playstation definitely the better buy.

[Petebloodyonion]

The point of the author isn’t about exclusives for being day 1 console exclusive but that the exclusives ( see list) are made to show the strength of the Ps5
Unlike Ms where sure their Game plays better on serie X but are built around Pc and Xbox1

Again, let me ask the question why it’s ok for the author to mention games like Spider-Man, HZ, GT7, god of war and The last of Us part1 ( all ps4 experience) as prime Ps5 games but diismiss all Ms games ( including upcoming Starfield) because they were made with other hardware limitation in mind?
Especially when the majority of said games were built with priors console in mind.

[Chevalier]

I get you think the authors logic is bad or maybe they have chosen their words poorly, but, at the end of the day whether you agree or not I would think overall the conclusion would remain the same regardless. Playstation is the better buy at the end of the day. The Xbox is made more for multimedia and Playstation is more dedicated for games. The main focus of a VIDEOGAME console should be the most important aspect, the GAMES.

Sure Xbox might have some interesting games in the pipeline, but, as it stands for the purposes of gaming Playstation by far is the better choice. The best intersection of 1st party and 3rd party exclusives, all the biggest games, gaming features and VR on the way too. Hands down is the better gaming system. The rest of the stuff you mention does not change that.

[Petebloodyonion]

My problem isn't with a conclusion and (precisely your conclusion) of I prefer Playstation 5 because I prefer Playstation games for it's your personal preference it's 100% not debatable just like someone who loves Nintendo games will probably buy a Switch.
Heck, I could point out that, according to Gamespot, 6 of the 10 best games of 2022 are playable on Xbox series X (versus 5 for PS5).
and five of them were day1 Gamepass
https://www.gamespot.com/ga...

Again their opinions are as valid as yours, mine, or anybody around here since it's 100% subjective.

No, my problem is when someone twists facts and evidence in order to justify their truth.
Read the article carefully and you will see that each time the author praises the PS5 performances it's followed by a " the fact that they're also designed for the weaker Series S and Xbox One usually limits the upper-level of their performance." type of comment (you can replace later with also on PC).
but the majority of the game mentioned as PS5 are games made for PS4 and obey the same exact rule as Xbox 1/ serie X games.

and Kudos if you love your PS5
I do own both and found out that the best thing that showcases what a next-gen system can do is the Matrix Unreal 5 Demo.

[Aussiesummer]

I have sold my dust collector series x and am gonna build a pc.

[Abear21]

PS5 plus Switch and I’ve missed maybe 4 games I want to play. That will change this year hopefully, stopped playing COD years ago so just Bethesda and Id, we know those games are coming

[Thundercat77]

For me, the PS5 was the better buy even before they launched. I didn't need 2 years to figure it out. Playstation always delivers.

[jwillj2k4]

If I had no console and was money conscious it’s obvious Xbox S is the better bargain with game pass. Outside of money troubles there is absolutely no reason to buy an Xbox.

[Psychotica]

I prefer having a PS5 for the exclusives and a good gaming PC for everything else.

[cloganart]

As a PC owner I see very little value in getting an XBOX console in this age for myself. PS5 all the way, just for the premium experience alone even if the games will come to PC after like 7 years.

[Nightcyberspud]

I own both as well as a switch and steam deck. I play my Xbox of multiplayer, PS5 for exclusive single player games and switch/steam deck for many rpg’s. PS5 probably gets the least playtime of all of them.

[jznrpg]

I play my PS5 just about every day and my Switch occasionally . It covers everything I want to play . I can afford PC and Xbox but I see no need for Xbox and I dislike windows . If Linux gets mass support I’m the future I would consider adding PC to PS and Nintendo .

[LucidIllusion]

People are slow