A pricing error saw players briefly get Forza Horizon 4 and 5 cheaply, but Xbox taking the game back over a week later is a dangerous precedent.
People should be upset about this. I don't care if people bought those 2 Forza games on the cheap. Microsoft made the pricing error for those moments, not the customers. And why wait a full week to finally "decide" to take the games back? Everyone had a fit when Konami forced Sony to take away P.T. from people's psn accounts. That was FREE and people had a fit. But these Forza games people PAID for and not a peep? That is nonsense. This is almost as bad as Overwatch 1, a game people paid for deliberately being made to not work anymore for Overwatch 2, even though people PAID for Overwatch 1. For all the cheerleaders that want a digital only gaming future, this is the start of the reality you want.
That all digital future people push for. Now people are starting to see why the "haters" argued against it.
Yeah, they're always "haters" until they find things they bought are suddenly gone or not working. Sadly, that's a lot of people; who cares "as long as it's not me" scenario is common.
Tbh a disk ain't gonna work either in the future with about 70mb of the games on the disk ?
Too bad the full game usually isn’t on the disk anymore. That was my main push towards all digital gaming. And since prices typically suck I just wait on sales and grab only 1-2 games day 1 annually anymore.
@EveetonFC & ApexWolf22 You two should really play something other than AAA games. Just bought evil west, great game, works perfectly out the box. Played it for about 6hrs before i let the update install by restarting it at the end of my session. Get away from the Ubisoft/EA/Activision games and most of them just work out the box.
Totally agree with you, It is scummy tactics that MS should be called on. If the game was sold at a cheap price by mistake then fix the price and let the ppl who paid t keep their games. It's not like millions of ppl used that deal and the negative press will be far more expensive and damaging versus the saving. Again PPLs are right to be pissed!
Yep. You're bang on regarding reputational risk.
Aren't these games on GP though? Regardless this isn't a good look on MS. The all digital future has been slowly exposing itself for awhile now. They should of let ppl keep those games.
It's not merely "scummy tactics". It's literal theft from those who bought it. It's freaking mass felony by MS.
Tactic? Exactly how is this tactical?
@lodos the truth is they’re not upset about it their mentality is “ I don’t care soon we will have tons of free games after the purchase goes through “
Free? think you need to rethink that.
This right here. What more can I say.
You made a mistake, Microsoft. Own it. Not cool.
Imagine the 'great concern' and aNtIcOnSuMeR comments from the usual suspects if Sony did this lol.
Are ppl praising Microsoft here? Bad practices need to be called no matter the company.
Right. And there’d be quite a few articles about it. We’ll see how this plays out though.
The only real backlash MS got was when they raised the price of Live. They had small time backlash when certain DRM aspects were still present. (which they finally resolved ) I doubt this will hit main stream gaming media tbh.
If Sony did this people would carry on as if they're on Jim Ryan's payroll and explain how its a good thing.
Really? Because I remember how everyone came down on Sony when they took P.T. away from people at the request of Konami. A FREE demo.
This is the first I'm hearing of this, if true and people paid regardless of price then this is utterly disgusting. Ms stuffed up that's there problem, not a peep from any media about this either, what a surprise.
100% and I have the purchase receipt and refund email to prove it. This proves that digital only gives the likes of Microsoft and Sony way to much power. If they can take a game off a refund you like this. Then what happens if for say the next Forza comes out people pay £60 for it rather than rent it on gamepass. Then a few months later they revoke the licence and refund you and say well we raised the price to £80 now so if you want it again pay the £80.
Sony isn't the one pushing the all digital future like that. Sony allows games to be press physically still. As low as I've seen 800 copies. While ms has a minimum of 75000. That's crazy. Ms is also the one that had to revise the Xbox one cause they were on some crazy sh. Look it up
I heard Warner Bros and other studios are removing your digital copy from other sources and making you repurchase it on their platform. You'll rent and own nothing will be strong on digital services.
Well I think I will cancel my Game pass subscription so they might have saved £79.99 but will lose £131.88 a year due to this poor error on their behalf.
Stop your fake outrage lol. It's so obvious
Person talking about cancelling Game Pass after supposedly purchasing a game that is FREE on Game Pass... and all because of the money. lol
I'm annoyed by this. I think it's a scummy move and further pushes me away from accepting digital only future. I already had Forza Horizon 4 and 5. I just wanted the Lego dlc. I installed it and I started to play it. I played it for a total of 2 and a half hours. So I dont see how they are allowed to refund me and take it away from me spite playing it for over 2 hours. I bet it I bought a game at full price and played it for more than 2 hours and wanted a refund they would tell me to do one no refunds. What's stopping them doing a killer blackfriday deal. People buying the game. Playing it and getting into it. Then after blackfriday is over. Microsoft says oh sorry wrong price here is a refund but please buy it at full price if you want to continue playing. I know it's different. But if I went into a Microsoft store and bought a new service laptop or a Xbox and they sold me it for £100 by mistake. Once I have made that payment and got that receipt and I walk out that shop. They can't do anything about it. They can't chase me down the street and force me back into the shop to give me a refund. I know we are talking about a 60p sale here. But it's really put me off getting a series s. I was going to buy one today during black Friday to play old 360 and og Xbox games and play around with emulators but I really don't think I will now. Why reward them buy purchasing a digital only console.
This is just a small example. I'm telling yall ms are wolves in sheep's clothing. There not good for gaming. Remember the the Xbox one before they were forced to revise it. Forced they didn't do it out of the kindness of their heart. People say they arent anti consumer but they definitely are. Look it up. They are waiting to pounce
As a Sony consoles owner, I'll admit Sony and MS are both showing anticonsumer practices this generation. I'm honestly not liking Sony this generation. And I agree with what you said about Ms and Xbox as well. We need to nip these practices before they get out of control on both consoles.
Rynxie Is it the games going up 10 dollars. Ten freaking dollars dude. I've been gaming since the mid to late 80s and games haven't rose much at all compared to everything else in the world. It's really not a big deal. Plus games cost way way more to make these days then back in the 80s 90s even early to mid 00s. Again not a big deal at all. As far as raising the consoles up a little. Eh again idc. Sonys also the ones who took a huge L selling the ps3s for what they sold for the first few years. Huge L. Not many if any companies will do that to that extent. So Sony raising up prices a little. I ain't tripping. Sonys never not even once tried to pull the bs ms did with the Xbox one I'm thankful for that. I'll have to look it up but i dont ever remember sony being sued and called on by the government for monopolistic behavior either.
This is MS Xbox on the way to its prime. The best is yet to come.
It's past its prime. It was 360 and it came in 3rd place still
Not a good look.
Came here to see the fake outrage. Right on time!
Came here to see the defence force. Looks like I was 2 hours late, but it was worth the wait for the epic cringe. Thank you!
Dude go back to your Microsoft hating comments. If people really wanna know where you stand all they have to do is read your past comments. You like nothing about Microsoft. So to come on here and act like you care is laughable. Were you outrage about any of the anti consumer things that Sony has done like raising the price of the PS5 or 70.00 games? Of course not. Move along!
^ Yes, I have been outraged by all three companies, because I'm an adult... Please don't tell me what I like. My apologies for ruining your Microsoft cheerleading, but if you don't want a reaction, don't make provocative comments. Carry on - those pom poms won't shake themselves!
They'll find anything to cry about especially if it involves Microsoft
Why should I care more about people that tried to take advantage of a clear error, and once it was caught, were no longer able to take advantage of said error. Good lord every article on this website needs to drum up outrage
Ok, for all the people crying about "fake outrage" or caping for corporations, let's try this scenario: You go to a store; let's say Costco You saw a toaster you wanted to buy for $200. But some system error only charged you $50 when you went to the register and purchased it. You go home and enjoy your toaster for about a week. Then suddenly, either a rep comes to your house or you get a phone call from Costco. "Excuse me Mr/Ms (insert name), due to a system error, we're going to have to take your toaster back from you and refund your $50 because of OUR error. If you want to have the toaster, you can purchase it at the original $200". Go ahead and say you're going to give it back. Let's see how many of you sit here and lie. Because THAT is what MS did and worse since you don't even get the right to protest it.
You have to honor the list price. Even if made in error.
See??! This shit here is a perfect example of why I'm fearful of an all digital future. All you dumb sissified cheerleaders for going all digital...this is a taste of what to expect. Let what happened to P.T and Overwatch 1 be a reminder as well.
These things are always 50/50 in my experience. I’ve gotten many items at incorrect pricing and sometimes it’s taken back sometimes it isn’t. If it’s only one small country they should probably just honor it or give compensation in the form of a month of GamePass or something.
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