I Was Wrong About Bayonetta 3 Voice Acting Scandal

Sometimes you just have to admit that you messed up.

[MrVux000]

Yet another article from ''thegamer'' (...) that i will not give a click.

[RetroCaptainSteve]

If they focused on actual games as much as they did game drama, we'd be getting somewhere.

[Gardenia]

^ This.

[xander31]

this site is trash

[porkChop]

Bro they did a list of the best looter shooters. There was like fucking 30+ games on the list, most of which aren't even looter shooters. It's the typical "anything for content" mentality.

[lonewolf10]

Hate sites without comments sections anywho:

This doesn’t mean PlatinumGames was completely on the level. Critics were right to point out that voice actors for games do destroy their throats for franchises that make hundreds of millions of dollars.

Isn't that the pitfalls of that career choice, how is Platinum not on the level here? "I was wrong but will still try and throw shade at Platinum", yeah good one.

[jambola]

Just because a career choice has problems doesn't make it ok
Platinum games are not on the level for horribly disgusting treatment of voice actors and not paying them properly

[lonewolf10]

They paid them the union rates, if they are wrong then the union need to sort. The career choice problem is loss of voice, not the payments offered, singers etc. insure their voices etc. in case they cannot perform, maybe VA's should do same?

[ManMarmalade]

The original actress was being a spoiled brat. End of story.

[--Onilink--]

She was offered nearly triple the union rate for a union job. How are they not paying them properly?

It is literally the job of a union to negotiate this kind of stuff if they feel the rates are not adequate. It is NOT Platinum’s job (and they it anyway)

[Andrew336]

Lol @ "destroy their throats".

[camel_toad]

There MUST already be a porn out there named that.

[lonewolf10]

@camel_toad

I laughed at that and your username, I'm such a child.

[gleepot]

any site without comments is a boon, as they are always a cesspool

[lonewolf10]

And yet without them you wouldn't be able to voice your opinion, like you just have.

[LoveSpuds]

The union setting a base line for the bottom rung or bare minimum does not absolve any company from wrong doing in respect of fair pay.

I think there is plenty of shit to go around for all of the parties concerned to be honest

[jambola]

If thegamer is going to make an article on everything they were wrong about we'd be here for years

[ManMarmalade]

"If I had a nickel"

[neutralgamer1992]

So first you got clicks for supporting the so called victim and now you want to get the clicks from the other side

[Mr_Writer85]

You rather they double down?

[neutralgamer1992]

i rather they do their research instead of taking one side before launch and support the other side a week later

[Mr_Writer85]

But no one had that information at the time did they? How do you suppose a (relatively small ) gaming news and opinion site get information regarding someone's contract offer?

You assume they had connections? They formed an opinion on what information they did have. Which is a natural thing for anyone to do.

They have now changed that opinion and admitted that their previous opinion is wrong, due to new information.

[BrainSyphoned]

The only reason they are walking it back
"When she got called out for this, she pivoted and asked people to donate to charities, including ones that promote taking away reproductive rights."
Trump supporter bad, prove I good robot must now attack woman who believe in life.

[Loktai]

Thats basically what happens every time. Its STAND WITH WOMEN and BELIEVE WOMEN and WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE until they realize the person they were so adamant needed their support turns out NOT to be a drone who agrees with them on every issue.

Just wait, if people actually start realizing what actually happened in Ukraine over the last decade.... oohhhh boy.

[IanTH]

It's crazy, isn't it? That the world is full of grey, and not just black and white? Many things can be true at once.

In this case, you can stand with AND believe the voice actress, and believe that she was wronged. But you can also not agree with the person or their views on separate matters. If she's anti-abortion, that's her right, of course. It is now a completely separate matter from the voice acting matter, and one she opted to bring into the conversation.

One could still think she got a bum offer and was shafted, & wish she got a fairer offer, but not support her views. So if one decides they don't wish to support her at that point, that's not some hypocritical backtracking of support, but rather a weighing of the matters at hand, and which one they find more important.

Aside from that, it's also always going to be hard to make the judgement call when you hear only the initial information, especially online. You may have to fill in the blanks when the other party is either unwilling or unable to fill those blanks in. You can make a sensible stance that, with the full picture, may change. Being willing to change your stance, if needed, is far healthier. It's also better to not have a firey, full-throated stance on something when it is clearly too early for there to be enough information to make a clear judgement, but that's another issue entirely.
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Side note: I also think that when people with differing views call each other things like "robots" or "drones", it just furthers the issue. Increases the divide. It plays into how humans think and process data (we "chunk" data). Makes it very easy to compartmentalize those you don't agree with as all one thing, further remove the grey, and make them easy to mentally dismiss; to label them as inherently wrong or evil, full stop.

[CrimsonWing69]

Let this be a lesson to you.

[H9]

This is thegamer, the most two-faced site in gaming, I don't think they want to learn, this is just how they generate double the amount of articles another site does

[jznrpg]

I think it’s good to admit when you are wrong . It takes courage , most people just pretend they are right all of the time .

[hotnickles]

That’s why I give every story 48 hours before I fully commit to an opinion. The reality is people are fake, especially “news”. Most stories change dramatically in 48 hours. New details that completely change the story. That’s what happens when it pays to be first instead of pays to be right.

[mastershredder]

The relevant industry buried this over a week ago. Let it go. Jeez.

“I’m not afraid of an NDA” - in that cringe as f faux aristocratic voice is like the new hot meme for fall 2022

[septemberindecember]

It's funny. The media was on Taylor's side until she asked people to donate to anti-abortion groups. Just goes to show that the media doesn't care about the argument or situation itself, but just tries to virtue signal as much as possible.

Personally, I thought it was dumb she called for a boycott. Then I thought she was dumb for lying about what platinum offered. Now I think she is dumb for doubling down and asking for donations from boycotts to go to anti abortion groups. That is called consistency, something the media does not have.

[GameBoyColor]

that first take is silly since it was the media that called her out before anyone and before people dug into her old tweets/anti abortion stuff. All that was irrelevant at the time she was put on blast.

[Smellsforfree]

"I’m boycotting Bayonetta 3 in the sense that I still haven’t completed the first two Bayonettas and have to accept the painful truth that not everything that’s good is for me."

-- I should have stopped reading there. Why did I keep reading this?

"Do I think actors in games deserve residuals? Why, yes I do. I think a lot of people in games deserve residuals. I think a lot of people who work on video games deserve residuals."

I disagree, but a VA could certainly negotiate for that if they wanted to. IMO residual sales go to the stake holders and creative influences on a project. VAs may help define the personality of characters, but they didn't create the characters.

Taylor was misleading in her original statements, threw another VA under the bus, and then tried to get people to donate to an anti-abortionist. Not much else needs to be said about this.

[ZwVw]

Regardless if whether or not Hellena's being greedy and a liar in the situation, can we all agree to admit that there's hypocrisy coming from all angles in the matter?

You got people from one side claiming that they're going to stand with Hellena and boycott Bayonetta 3, when the situation doesn't even apply to them (in the first place) because they don't even own a Nintendo Switch. Then, you've got people from another side claiming that they're still going to purchase Bayonetta 3 because they want to support the developers for their work and labor. When in reality, they couldn't give two damns about the developers, they just want to play the game.

It's kinda reminiscent to 2020 when you had all those various youtube gaming channels making countless videos about how gamers needed to start "voting with their wallets" and stop supporting Activision due to their overlong mistreatment of their employees. Yet, those same people bought Black Ops Cold War at launch because they "wanted to support the developers who worked tirelessly on the game"?

Friggin sheeps.