A third of Xbox Deathloop players haven't beaten the tutorial

Deathloop has proven a popular addition to Game Pass after finally arriving on Xbox last month, but achievement data suggests that almost a third of players haven't even managed to unlock the first achievement yet.

[AdventurerDonLocke]

That's probably normal for most games.

[Moegooner]

No it isn't. Not even for the Souls games.

[SullysCigar]

It's normal for gamepass games. They become throwaway and people don't persevere.

It's like sitting in front of the TV and channel-hopping all night. You haven't really watched anything. You haven't really played anything.

[Snookies12]

Nah, I've seen PLENTY of games that were out for a week or two where people hadn't even gotten the first tutorial trophy/achievement. It's definitely common. I recall this being the case for several titles the past year or two. At least, for the ones I was actively looking to get trophies/achievements on.

[z2g]

Well with gamepass it’s more likely. You can just try stuff. If you’re not feeling it, you won’t feel out money to not play it anymore. I’m always trying random stuff and I prob stick with about a quarter of them.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@Snookies12,

Actually reminds me of one of the Neptunia game's Playstation Trophies "think any reviewers won't get this one?" Which is awarded after the tutorial or first 10/15 minutes of the game.

[VenomUK]

33% of "Xbox Deathloop players haven't beaten the tutorial". And 13% of PS5 players haven't beaten the tutorial. Whilst we can crack a joke that it's because Xbox players find it too hard (downvote away!) Considering the tutorial is relatively short, it's most likely because many people aren't finding the intro compelling enough. Most of the PS5 players would've bought it new and so perhaps might have tried a bit longer with it, Xbox players who got it free with Game Pass might not be as patient as there is always something else to play.

[RauLeCreuset]

@Venom

It's also part of PS+ Extra, which I think supports the real significant takeaway from this. The number of people who played a game is not a reliable enough metric on its own to gauge success and should be supplemental to sales metrics and other relevant metrics (when applicable), not a replacement.

[Zega]

I had it since launch only played 5 minutes, dont like it at all.

[Abracadabra]

@Moegooner

You were saying...
https://steamcommunity.com/...

[KillBill]

This game has one of the longest tutorials of any game I have played. You have to completely finish the first loop before being able to enter access code again and entering Updaam on your won for the achievement and tutorial to be finished. That means going through all 4 maps. All 4 times of the day. And most people won't simply kill themselves to quickly go through the loop. They will actually try and achieve objects placed down for them in the game tutorial.

I remember this because I thought it would be a quick achievement to unlock... but it was not.

[KillBill]

Ok. I double checked this and you only have to revive once through loop and then you finish the very first part of tutorial with achievement mentioned. (still though not finished with tutorial)

[1Victor]

@ adventurer: That's probably normal for most games.

That’s probably normal for most FPS gamers
🤦🏿 There I fix it for you
I don’t see anyone buying a rpg, platform, sports, and not playing the tutorial so no it’s not normal for most games

[Babadook7]

Have it for PS+ Extra and haven't played a second yet. Need to get on that! lol

[Abracadabra]

This isn't news. Likely a lot of people tried the game on Gamepass and some didn't like it.
People on Gamepass aren't forced to play something they don't like. They simply move on.

I'm sure there are a lot of people on PC and PS5 that have the game and never finished the tutorial.

[TGGJustin]

I mean I only booted it up to complete a quick Game Pass quest for points and then closed it. Pretty sure a ton of other people are the same. It's why I don't put any stock into Microsoft's whole player numbers PR.

[Fishy Fingers]

Not sure "a ton" of people are downloading 31GB for a GP quest, but sure.

[SullysCigar]

Are you sure a ton of people didn't? How else can we explain that headline?

GP quest points is one plausible explanation. I'm sure there may be others. I guess it could be that a whole bunch of people just didn't like the game, in contrast to the reviews?

[Fishy Fingers]

Dont think it over matters either way, its "free". I have it as it flagged up on the homepage so I downloaded it for later.

Just query the likelihood that "a ton" of people would download for a quest. Doubt the majority of GP subs know about/track/care about the quests. If you do, download one thats 300mb :/

[badz149]

@Fishy Fingers

31GB is nothing nowadays

[Petebloodyonion]

I'll agree with Justin on this one, there's a quest related to Death loop and probably some ppl just power up the game to get the achievement.
Now, remember that you don't need to download the game since you can stream it from Xbox :).
But here's something that the article doesn't show:
How many ppl did fire up the game just for some point and played it?
Remember 2/3 of the player did complete the tutorial.

[John_McClane]

You don't have to download it if it's on xcloud.

[Class_Viceroy]

I could easily see people downloading a game to get points. It takes 5-10 minutes to download and boot the game. Not that hard of a task.

Also remember, you can load a game in Xbox Cloud Gaming and don’t even have to install.

[philm87]

A ton of people would only be about 10 or so by average weight, so he's probably underestimated it if anything.

[gamer9]

I downloaded it and haven't even booted it up yet. Got sidetracked.

[Nitrox]

If we’re getting picky about wording… literally a ton of people would be like, 10 to 15 adult males between 150-200lbs each.

I think it’s reasonable to believe that many would do something like this.

Sorry… couldn’t resist 😏
I’ll go back to my hole now.

[strifeblade]

I did. I get like 15$ of game pass points monthly its addicting. I did the tutorial but will come back to finish the game way later

[DarthZoolu]

We are on Xbox we don’t have to download GamePass games to play them. I can just press play now.

[FlavorLav01]

Enjoy the lag, crap frame-rates and sub 4k resolution. Really not something that great to brag about…

[starsi360]

@FlavorLav01

Works fine if you don’t have terrible internet … and I find it a great way to see if I like something before committing to installing it

[Juiceid]

I did the same thing with the exception of not even getting the achievements because the game wasn’t worth the effort.

[wiz7191]

Or is it just the fact it’s one of Arkane weakest games , we all knew that before it even came to gamepass .. so most ppl like myself didn’t bother once it hit GP ,

[Christopher]

***we all knew that before it even came to gamepass .. so most ppl like myself didn’t bother once it hit GP ,***

What? People knew it was the weakest before it came to gamepass, so people didn't bother but they did by playing it and stopping before the few minutes it took to finish the tutorial? None of what you said is lining up.

[Vengeance1138]

Just more evidence that it's best to actually pay for games. If you have money invested in the game, you'll stick around for atleast a few hours. No financial investment in games and you may never complete a whole game again let alone get passed the first few levels.

[GamingSinceForever]

That’s not accurate. I have a nice backlog of games that I simply couldn’t get into and I paid $$$ for them. On the flip side there were some PS Plus games that I managed to get through because they grabbed my attention.

[Crows90]

Well he was probably assuming people don't waste and throw away money like that. What the heck is the point of purchasing a game you won't even play. Backlog my ass. It's such a dumb thing to do. It's like buying clothes you won't wear or don't know if you'll wear.
Regardless his points stands. Financial investment increases the likelihood of sticking around a game longer. Normal statistics at work here.

[EvertonFC]

Agreed, I used a company called "boomerang rentals" in the UK during the ps3 era and found myself sending games back too soon without giving the game a good chance metro series being a good example.
I've since completed all metro games and there fantastic but using the rental service I sent the 1st game back thinking it was crap how wrong I was lol.

[GamingSinceForever]

Crows90…That is literally the most ignorant thing I’ve hearing here today and that is saying a lot. I never said that I bought games knowing that I wouldn’t play them, I said I bought games and wound up not being able to get into them like I thought I would. Sometimes I am able to get into some of them at a later date. Cyber Punk is an example of one of them. I’ve heard that it’s a great game but it has yet to grab me.

Nobody is going to force feed themself a game that bores them over a few dollars. Time is more valuable in gaming especially as we get older.

If you don’t have a backlog you aren’t a real gamer. You’re a casual that gets a couple of games a year tops. That’s a fact.

[EvertonFC]

Agree somewhat with what you've said but I totally disagree with you're last statement about you're not a real gamer if don't have a backlog.
We were in lockdown for the best part of a year and half during the Pandemic and I'm baffled gamers still have a backlog ?
Didn't gamers get through there backlogs during a virus Pandemic during a global lockdown ?

[DarthZoolu]

I pay for games I am interested in. GamePass allows me to check and see if I actually want to pay for this game later. I have bought more games than ever since starting GamePass.

[EvertonFC]

I think gamers who try games through GP or ps plus and then buy them when there cheaper is probably very few and far between.
I've enjoyed many games on ps plus or psnow back in the day and said I'll buy it to support the dev when it's cheaper but never do as this hobby is expensive enough and there's always a new game coming out which stops me from buying the game cheap.

[NotoriousWhiz]

How about people can spend their time and their money however they want? If they want to try and never finish a bunch of games, that's their choice. If they want to play fewer games but 100% all of them, then thats fine too. No one's use of free time is better than anyone else's.

[rippermcrip]

So you're arguing that it is better to pay for games because if you pay for it you'll keep playing it even though you don't like the game?

[Zhipp]

That's what it sounds like to me. He's arguing against his own point. Besides, why would anyone stop playing a game they enjoy just because they didn't pay for it? That's ridiculous.

[Lightning77]

Yep that's exactly what he's saying. He bought 200 games last gen and beat every single last one of them. He's also beat every game he bought since this gen has started as well.

Yeah he's full of crap.

[wiz7191]

I’ve done the same with games I’ve paid for , if the game isn’t that good that’s just what it is ..

[Desperadoo]

this is facts, i dont have anything to back it up but when i had PSnow.. i had to much to play that i never even stayed on a game to long.... you get overwhelmed and never settle to actually focus on a game

[fitofficial]

I paid for it and played it for about an hour. Haven't picked it up since and likely won't. Wasted money.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

I didn't play it much at all on PC mainly because it's like the movie Groundhog Day.

[Snakeeater25]

Yeah I played it for 7hour on ps5 when it came out and it’s alwais the same. It’s really boring and with no interesting story or even characters.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Yeah, not much fun at all. I still cannot believe it won GOTY awards and others.

[EvertonFC]

I found the gun mechanic's and aiming to be shite and couldn't get passed 1 hour.

[Bathyj]

I wish it was as good as Groundhog day

[Knushwood Butt]

lol, indeed.

[gleepot]

except it tries way too hard to be funny and edgy

[Knushwood Butt]

Yeah, I played some more and the script is awful.

Feel sorry for the voice actors.

[Orchard]

Not hugely surprising nor does it really mean anything, probably standard fare for most games that have quests attached to them.

[John_McClane]

If there is a quest attached to a game pass game I start it up with xcloud to finish the quest.

[Elda]

LOL! I did get 50% trophies playing Deathloop on the PS5.

[SockeyBoy]

I downloaded it on game pass and played 10 minutes...just not for me

[Snakeeater25]

5 minute .. well for real you got the most of it. The rest is pretty much all the same

[MizHDTV]

I deleted at stage 3
Just couldn’t get into it
And the aiming felt off to me

[JonnyBeoulve]

Agreed.

[zero_jp]

I had zero interest in this game. I have zero interest in this game.

It reviewed through the roof and I can’t for the life of me figure out why.

I don’t know one person who purchased it not one. Not one on the PSN where I play. Not one on XBL where I also play.

I suspect it got what it got score wise because of the studio who made it.

I tip my hat to the devs. But I still can’t wrap my head around who actually went out and bought it.

It was never something I was like oh oh oh I need this. Oh oh oh I want this.

I saw the trailers. I saw the gameplay. And thought to myself I’d rather spend my money elsewhere.

Now that it’s on game pass you’d think every Tom, D*ck, and Harry be all over this.

But nope. The interest isn’t there. I don’t think it ever was beyond the usual media and YouTubers hyping it up.

Anyway what I’m saying is if I’m saying anything at all is that the game just has no audience even for people with game pass.

It just is what it is.

[Knushwood Butt]

This.

I'll give it a second chance, but from the hour or so I played it just seemed extremely meh.

Also kind of weird how it clearly favours stealth play, when the PR suggests it's some kind of wild gunfest.

[FlavorLav01]

You didn’t play long enough to get good with your weapons or powers. You become an absolute run and gun beast once you progress and get to know the game well enough.

[Snakeeater25]

I don’t get the reviews … I bit like persona 5 the game is boring and it’s like kids
In high school .. both game got 10/10 but they were terrible

[franwex]

Persona 5 is a great game. That’s a medical fact.

[EvertonFC]

You not liking a game doesn't mean it's terrible, I also didn't like persona 5 but I didn't think it's shite, it's just not my type of game.

[Snakeeater25]

Franwex are you 12 yrs old ?

[Christopher]

I bought it. I played it. I enjoyed it. I liked the story. I thought it was interesting. It wasn't as good as Dishonored 1, but it was good, IMHO.

I'm glad it was made even if it isn't for a broader audience, kind of like how not all games need to be for everyone.

[EvertonFC]

Gamers moan when games are similar and the Devs don't take risks but when they try something different we the gamer shit all over it lol.
It wasn't my type of game but kudos for trying something alittle different.

[CobraKai]

Is it a necessary part to progress or separate like Halo Infinite?

[Crows90]

Well the games isn't particularly good so not a bad thing.

[z2g]

Heh. I finished it on both the ps5 and series x. I enjoyed it on ps5 and since it was on gamepass it was risk free to do another run and compare (verdict: controller haptics are much cooler on the ps5, but series x looked a bit cleaner/sharper and slightly smoother…and vrr)

[TheColbertinator]

Even on Gamepass I can tell that game is not for me. It plays nice (saw a bit on Twitch) but you won't see me playing it anytime soon.

[franwex]

Is the tutorial mandatory? If it is-I will basically not play the game-so this makes sense. Life is too short for tutorials.

I don’t have Halo Infinite tutorial achievements-but I’ve played the game. The tutorials are optional there.

[Knushwood Butt]

I don't even remember a tutorial: if you select Cole you start on a beach and it just says do xx to crouch, xx to climb over obstacles, etc as you are exploring the surroundings, while listening to the poor dialogue.

[Christopher]

It's not a traditional tutorial, it's part of the story. It's not like a side item in a room with boxes. It's part of the story being introduced to you as well as how death works.

[Saijahn]

Game came out at a bad time. 2k, Madden, cod beta... people will get around to it eventually. That exclusive deal with Sony has this dead on arrival

[EvertonFC]

Denial

[Soy]

People are willing to cut bait after 5 minutes when it's on Game Pass or if they have it via GameFly. Check it out, see it how it is, go forward or delete.

[happysmiles]

I'm hurting that stat. Played the whole game on PS5 and just fired it up to see what it looked on my PC. Played about 3 min.

[aaronaton]

Well at least the Playstation community gave the game the attention it, as well as the developers deserved.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

The only mystery to me is why people on this site are always pissing on this game, lol

[JEECE]

It's not a mystery. Xbox fans decided to hate it because they got it a year late. PlayStation fans decided to hate it because they are mad at Bethesda for selling to Xbox.

[Christopher]

It's a controversial game just because and it's not "great" enough to get out from under the controversy. The fact that people can make their mind up about a game after only a few minutes of playing it should tell you all you need to know about how much they actually know about the game.

[Knushwood Butt]

A few minutes was plenty for me to judge this as derivative and generic.

I played some more last night and my opinion hasn't changed a bit.

You are a Far Cry fan right? Mark the enemies, throw bottles (rocks) to distract enemies. Familiar right? No need to even set a waypoint in this game because the game does it for you.

[Christopher]

***You are a Far Cry fan right? Mark the enemies, throw bottles (rocks) to distract enemies. Familiar right? No need to even set a waypoint in this game because the game does it for you.***

If the only "stealth" nuance you found in this game was distracting enemies, then you missed a ton of the game. Also, no, not like Far Cry and, no, not even a set waypoint since it doesn't hold your hand on how to achieve goals and you really need to learn the maps and the potential barriers on your own. It's 99% Dishonored in that regard, but you associate the 1% of it that it shares with Far Cry as being the same.

[Knushwood Butt]

Well I haven't even used the bottle mechanic yet: I just notrced it was in there. So far I've just be walking straight up behind the enemy ane one hit killing them (so 2% shared with Far Cry?) and the AI is dim and has at least a 180 degree blind spot behind them to the point that you be at the side of them and they don't notice.

I don't get your point about waypoints, because in the version Im playing there is an orange marker on the item you are supposed to collect, then when you do, there's a new orange marker to tell you where the exit is.

[Christopher]

Play more. You obviously are very early on the game where it is telling you how to play.

[Good-Smurf]

They tend to try games rather than actually play it over there so not surprised.
If you're the indecisive type then these subscription services are your worst mightmare.
Too much to scan through and choose you'd ended up not playing anything.
Rather stick to one or few games than pay a fee to open the floodgates and try to navigate through it instead of actually enjoy it, even good stuff suffered because you feel always feel pressured and also distracted.

[boing1]

Super overrated game IMO. Played it for 3h and it was enough. Definitely not a GOTY material. Doesn't have any x factor.

[Christopher]

Because games must be GotY contenders? Why even bring that up?

[boing1]

Just saying that Deathloop wasn't the best game of 2021 IMO.

[JEECE]

Remember next time you complain about live service games, endless sequels, or remakes, that you rejected new singleplayer IPs as "meh."

[boing1]

I reject them only my when they are 'meh'. Deathloop is super meh after 3h.

[EvertonFC]

I tried it in ps plus extra and it wasn't for me played less than an hour.
Slightly off topic but I remember gamers moaning at the lack of single player content with GTS yet only 22% of gamers had actually played and finished the single player part of GTS lol.
It's the same with GT7 only 5% have done 5 or more circuit experience tracks ? Like wtf and believe it or not the ONLY 22% have raced with assist off?

[Knushwood Butt]

There's a lot of single player content in GTS and some of it is pretty challenging. That Super GT race in the wet at Red Bull ring was nails and must have taken me about 20 attempts to get first place.

If only the campaign in GT7 was even half as good; get given a competitive car to enter, win, get given a competitive car to qualify for the next event. Win. Rinse and repeat against AI whose main purpose is to block you while playing chase the rabbit.

[EvertonFC]

I've always had all golds in GT over the years but GT7 on S rank in missions I'm mainly bronze and silver will only 2 golds and I have 2 golds left in licence's and 1 gold left with music rally (disappointed it still says coming soon for new ones ☹️)
Btw 260 hrs played 413 cars collected 🙂 just the over10m credits cars left and I ain't bothering with those tbh.
Edit: I clicked the buy button on a 18m credits car and I couldn't believe it cost £96 to buy lol that's a piss take.
Also when I got to 400 cars in just said congratulations didn't even give me any credits ffs.

[Knushwood Butt]

Yeah, same here. Think I have all golds on everything in GTS apart from online races as I never played a single online race.

I was working on golds in GT7 but just lost my will to play and haven't touched it for more than 3 months.

[giovonni]

I’m not impressed by the game to tell you the truth. I played up to getting to his house, and I stopped playing because it just wasn’t a good time

[SDuck]

That's like saying my achievement count in Watch Dogs 2 is zero when I own the game because Epic Games offered it at one point but I haven't touched the thing. People have access to the game but rather play other sh*t. Big deal

[Kosic]

I haven't even downloaded it yet. I was unsure on this title when it was releasing for PlayStation. Heard it's gotten great reviews.

[KillBill]

I bought Metro 2033 and it was my most anticipated game at the time. I just got out of the tunnel in game and turned it off, completely not the game I felt like playing and never went back. I imagine many people heard about Deathloop and thought they would try it out on Game Pass. That is the joy of Game Pass that you can try games you might not normally play. And likely a lot of people didn't get past the tutorial? but if I recall... I thought that achievement didn't unlock the first time you get out of updaam. I was at the impression I had to finish the loop first and then put the code in before it unlocked. And that took a long time. Deathloop has a very long tutorial. I don't think this was as quick as people make it out to be. i will login with a new account and try it again... but pretty sure I went through all tutorial maps before getting this unlocked.

[EvertonFC]

Dude I played metro 2033 and did the same as I couldn't work out the gas mask however I returned to it 2 years later and trust me it's one of the best games of all time.
I've since played all the metro games and you won't believe where the story goes in the 1st 2 games.
I highly recommend going back to it, I've since likened metro to the half life games it just takes a few hours to get going and some decent perks and weapons etc.

[KillBill]

Ok, just checked again and you only have to revive once through first part of loop and get code to get this achievement. still not actually complete with tutorial but not as long as I imagined previously. it was another achievement that you had to go through entire first loop training before unlocking. Though trying on a fresh account I realized why many people might not have played through tutorial and that was due the annoying process of having to create a Bethesda account with your e-mail just to even play the game. so that could turn off a lot of new players just wanting to see what the game was about.

[Father__Merrin]

It's because it's playable on gamepass. Any serious game isn't cost effective to only play that title like you would do if you got a new game in the post. You only need to look at achievements percentages on gamepass titles. I'm surprised on some games when you are nearly quarter way through and acheievment pops up saying 1.5% have unlocked

[thesoftware730]

Well, a lot of people download a game to play at a later point. MS even has a play later section you can add games to. I myself have a backlog and downloaded death loop, played through the first day, where you wake up again and now have the combination for the door, and 100% will get back to it. I have been caught up doing team stuff in The Division 2.

Not to mention there are so many games on GP you can't possibly play them all at once, gotta create some type of rotation or just based on what you have more fun with.

[CrimsonWing69]

I never really understood this. Like when I look at trophies for a game it’s like a majority get the first trophy for like Ch.1, but then there’s a massive drop off for beating Ch. 2. Then barely anyone beats the game. It’s like that for every game I look at the trophy data for.

It’s weird.

[ChasterMies]

“Deathlopp has proven a popular addition to Game Pass”

Has it? Let’s look at the data.

“achievement data suggests that almost a third of players haven't even managed to unlock the first achievement yet”

Data says the Deathloop is very much over hyped, which matches my experience with the game.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

That seems about right for a Game Pass game.

[neomahi]

Too much to play on Game Pass

[KillBill]

After signing in to another account I realized Deathloop has a create Bethesda account requirement with your e-mail that also likely turned off a lot of new gamers after they opened the game.

[RauLeCreuset]

It's not required.

[KillBill]

Sure felt required when I started playing with the new account. I saw no indications of it being arbitrary. If there was any such indications it wasn't enough for me to see it.

[ChubbyBlade]

I’ve tried it twice now. Once on gamepass and once on ps5. Both times I just can’t get into it. I love immersive sims but something about this just isn’t for me. Having to repeat the same thing over and over just feels like I’m failing a REALLY long checkpoint save. The AI isn’t very compelling either and it’s just a less interesting dishonored.

I know there’s people who love it but I honestly don’t see the 10/10s it was getting. The ai isn’t that good, it’s extremely repetitive, it looks ok, story’s not very gripping from what I’ve seen etc

[Christopher]

***Having to repeat the same thing over and over just feels like I’m failing a REALLY long checkpoint save.***

You shouldn't be having to repeat things so it feels repetitive. Each time you replay something (or you can just skip it if you don't need that part of the day to complete something) you should be accomplishing a goal that is specific to that replay.

Perhaps the issue is too many people are completionists and feel like they have to complete everything on a map at a specific time? You can ignore most things on each playthrough to further the storyline.

[ChubbyBlade]

Yes I know but I’m still running through the same areas with the same enemies in the same spots every time. It doesn’t vary it up.

[anast]

The game is uninteresting.

[StarkR3ality]

This is granted though, people on game pass will play it and then not like it, turn it off and never bother with it because they didn't fork out money. If you pay for something then you feel obliged to make use of it.

That being said, can imagine that with PC/Xbox, the amount of players will be higher than on PS5.

[Auron]

Because that game sucks.

[Blaze929]

What are we supposed to do with this information

[Kyizen]

For good or bad that is my gripe with Gamepass. It takes away the drive to complete a game. When you pay $70 you will stay with that game and gey the most out of it. Gamepass you just move on to something else.

[Ramboforlife]

Dude looks like Ye.

[Passerotto]

Probably most have already finished it on ps5, and on xbox have only launched it to see the quality of the conversion

[mastershredder]

They are talking players, as in they launched the game. Let's face it, Deathloop is not Arkane's best entry and feels a bit too much like We Happy Few for it's own good. Jumping on the death-to-progress bandwagon did not help either. Arkane is better than needless game-grinds and common trends, but Deathloop suggests otherwise.

[JonnyBeoulve]

I'm one of them. I didn't like the characters or UI so I uninstalled.

[SinisterKieran]

Most people I know on Xbox are big Fortnite,cod and fifa fans. Like my brother, he’ll try a new game but go back to playing the same old games

[Fearmonkey]

i have it ps plus and got it on humble bundle for pc, looking forward to trying it.

[YourMommySpoils]

They had too much Cuphead XD

[randomhero24]

I bought it for PC, got it on gamepass to see how it played. I am in the tutorial right now, might play it again this week? What’s their issue? It’s a complex game that isn’t that hard but people should play it at their own pace.

[gleepot]

Here's the thing: this game sucks

[Hedstrom]

Well its now a free to play game for subscribers, so alot of people are gonna treat it as a free to play game!

[Bathyj]

Ironically one of the few games I regret buying. I didn't get past the first few hours

[babadivad]

K...

[Levii_92]

Maybe just maybe it’s because it’s a borring ass game

[46player]

.

[InUrFoxHole]

I started the tutorial but found the game to be trash

[ACEMANWISE]

I never expected much from Xbox gamers. They excel in group efforts but lack independent achievement. They could never do golf, chess, or any other activity that requires being alone.

[fitofficial]

I beat the tutorial, got a bit into the first level and never picked it up again. Boring beyond words. Story was stupid, voice acting was as cringe as it gets, gameplay was super generic, and my trust in reviewers became even more non-existent.

[LucidIllusion]

I mean most gamers are.trash with no skills or patience to finish MOST games. Hell, some people have yet to complete the Dishonored series yet they're ready to jump on the hate bandwagon.