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GTA 6 hacker has access to source code, shares 10K lines of code

GTA 6's leaker has already access to the game's source code. Not only that, but the leaker shared publicly 10K lines of code.

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Jin_Sakai991d ago (Edited 991d ago )

Yes this is not good news. Rockstar will likely have to rewrite most of the code leading to a delay.

Bobertt991d ago

The game basically looked like just GTA 5 with different graphics. I saw no improvements to AI, shooting, driving, missions, etc. To me it looks like just another cash grab at this point. So a delay to actually make a next gen GTA wouldn't be the worst thing.

Jin_Sakai991d ago

@Bobertt

You can’t judge the footage this early in development. This is very early code.

Epicor990d ago

What? Why would they need to do that? Of course this leak is horrible for R* but this shouldn't cause any delays. Or am I missing something here?

1nsomniac990d ago

Yea the notion that they’d have to rewrite all their code because someone had seen it is a little bizarre. I don’t know why you would think that.

PapaBop990d ago

How can it be delayed when there is next to no official information regarding the project? You can't delay what isn't announced.

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crazyCoconuts990d ago

@jin that doesn't make any sense

TheKingKratos990d ago

Why ??

That is very early code .... It will be missing tons and tons of work in gameplay,AI, Graphics,story, voice acting,music etc etc etc that was done while the game in development

They need to do nothing but keep working on their project

Palitera990d ago

10k lines of code is NOTHING in a project of this size.
FFS, our tiny game's Player script alone has 1k+ lines and it barely touches his main behaviours.

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ApocalypseShadow991d ago

Apparently, because they milked GTA 5, and online(even though gamers continued buying their content) and were silent on their next release, some believe they deserve to be hacked because they're weren't open about their next release. That it's Rockstar's fault. As if Rockstar is on gamer time and not on internal developer time. "Not more open" without believing that gamers should be more **patient**, is some serious entitlement of thinking you need to know when you want to. And not when a company thinks it's time and they are ready.

By this thinking, any company that is milking a product or are silent on their next release, need to be hacked. That's not right. It would mean Naughty Dog, for re-releases of TLofU and not telling gamers on their next project, deserve hacking.

Yeah. It sucks having to wait for information to come out. But no company deserves to be hacked that isn't doing anything criminal. And is only working hard behind the scenes silently with their next project.

monkey602991d ago

I just can not understand the hacker or the sympathisers' line of thought at all!

Owlbert990d ago (Edited 990d ago )

It's called extortion... Take two can teach you all about it, with their shark cards✌️

FIELDMARSHALL_P990d ago

The internet has caused it lol I remember being a kid waiting on games to come out because I heard about it in the latest issue of Nintendo power. WE HAD TO WAIT patiently, we couldn't go to a forum and complain and cry it just was what it was and we survived. People need to get out of the info now mode all the time. Let shit age like fine wine then we will get the quality stuff we demand. Keep being pushy, hacking, complaining, and we get buggy crap and delays.

randomvoice990d ago

Exactly this! Also, why do people forget that they built RDR2 in the middle which itself was a masterpiece and took over 4-5 years. It isn't like Rockstar has been sitting on their asses doing nothing. Yeah they could be quicker in delivering games but the scale they pick which gets bigger every game means it takes time and effort.

Mothman1984990d ago (Edited 990d ago )

ApocalypseShadow@ Every company is doing "something" illegal. You just need to dig deep enough. Not a good argument, not good at all. Because everybody has a criminal under the skin.

ApocalypseShadow990d ago (Edited 990d ago )

You go and chase phantoms if you want. Prove to me Rockstar is doing illegal activities? Present your facts. I don't need your wild speculation.

The company doesn't deserve to be hacked. You can deflect all day while saying absolutely nothing. Keeping silent until they are ready isn't illegal. Not giving gamers new information isn't illegal.

Sony has resold Spider-Man more than once. They have not shown gameplay of Spider-Man 2. Does that mean they deserve to be hacked? No.

Come back when you really got something. Right now, you have nothing.

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XxINFERNUSxX991d ago

If you want to share the code make a torrent and there you go. No worries at all, it will not be taken down by shit bags Take Two they are helpless if you share it this way. 😁

Shiore2u990d ago

@ disagrees
I don't get how anyone can sympathize with Take-Two or Rockstar given their egregious history. They treat their employees like disposable sweatshop workers and their customers like morons. They deserve this and worse.

IRetrouk990d ago

Do the devs who worked on it deserve it too?

Shiore2u990d ago (Edited 990d ago )

@IRetrouk
Wouldn't be surprised if it's an overworked developer not allowed to leave the office to spend time with his/her family under a career ultimatum from a superior that ended up doing it. Rockstar San Diego's toxic management and work crunch during RDR's development had plenty such examples.

NotoriousWhiz990d ago

^ I'm not sure that would make the developer's career any easier. I suspect it would make it a lot harder. And then to also do that to own their team would be awful.

IRetrouk989d ago

It wasn't an employee, the team of devs who have worked hard on this do not deserve this at all, no excuse.

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Take-Two CEO Says Rockstar Games Wants GTA VI To Be The Best Entertainment Product Ever Created

Take-Two CEO says that Rockstar Games want its upcoming open world action game, GTA VI, to be the best entertainment product ever created.

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anast19d ago

They are going to raise the price on this game.

Profchaos18d ago

Who cares I mean honestly honestly the amount of hours you can sink into this game alone would be worth the price of two games

ZycoFox18d ago

Provided they have plenty of missions to the story and lots of interactivity/side stuff, or add more afterwards.. Not much good if the game is very short or a big desert, or both.

-Foxtrot18d ago

Who cares? All of us who don't want other developers to get the same idea which they will

Nintendo already opened the flood games with their pricing now you want it to get worse? You are letting developers have the excuse.

Complete boot licking...we didn't ask Rockstar to make these games super ambitious and spend millions on it.

Also you know most of that money is just going to be raked back in thanks to the Online so why do they need to raise the price?

Profchaos18d ago

@foxtrot I totally understand the perspective of other games don't deserve this and I entirely agree. If Nintendo didn't do it Xbox would have done it twice weeks later their decision wasn't a knee jerk reaction it was hinted at and planned well before the floodgates open they had been giving away their first party titles for a long time now to gamepass subs and failing to recoup development expenses it was inevitable that the price was going up.

If GTA Vi wasn't as ambitious as it is people would riot we say we didn't ask for this but we kind of did the expectation of perfection was set many years ago and the longer the development the more we expect.

Think of half life 3 if that ever actually comes out it has to be god tier it can't be a standard shooter it has to excell same with GTA.

CrimsonWing6919d ago

Can’t wait! Like my hype has never been this high for a game. I hope it really delivers and looks like what they’re showing. Like, I’ll finally feel like we’ve entered next-gen if it does.

lucasnooker19d ago

Only game this generation I’m truly hyped for. A true AAA big budget banger pushing the hardware to the limits like the good old days!

Eonjay18d ago

While is certainly good to.see the push the machines keep in mind the average studio doesn't have the money or resources to invest into development for over a decade. It really isn't feasible for every game or even 10% of them to reach the levels of this game.

lucasnooker18d ago

@Eonjay and that’s why gaming is cooked today!

Eonjay18d ago

I get it but having spent the weekend playing Balatro, I am actually very satisfied with games of different sizes and prices. I think all big companies should have games of all ranges. And technically they already do.

Basically there really isn't a good reason for most games to push hardware to the max.

lucasnooker17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@Eonjay There was a time we used to expect each generation to be better than the last. Smh. You think people were sharing your same sentiment when we first went from ps1 to ps2? Or ps2 to ps3? Now people actually defend the state of gaming as it is and accept mediocrity. It’s sad to see. Especially if you were there at the time. The buzz for gaming was something different!

Levii_9219d ago

I can't wait for this overblown cutscene game to come out so i never buy it and spend money on it.

pwnmaster300019d ago

Thanks for sharing.
I guess I’ll do the opposite

Yui_Suzumiya19d ago

Hell yes! Someone speaking my language for once.

GotGame81818d ago

Hell yes! Like I said, someone has multiple accounts!

b00mFargl319d ago

That's a really cool story; I'm sure your mom loves it when you tell her those stories when you come out of the basement.

GotGame81818d ago

Someone has multiple accounts!

Yui_Suzumiya18d ago

You know there is more than 1 person in the world who thinks GTA is boring right? Lol

andy8518d ago

Cutscene game? I probably had 100 hours gameplay in one playthrough of V. Not bad for a cutscene game

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GhostScholar19d ago

Technically it looks incredible but I’m a bit disappointed that it’s turned into a franchise about heists. I miss the more carried mission structure. I miss having just one playable character too.

Putte19d ago

Exactly. It's a shame we don't have one playable character. And the boring heist all the time. Miss the more grounded story's about people.

Extermin8or3_19d ago

You realise you can have both on the story right?

LarVanian18d ago

Heists, be it bank heists or smaller scale, have always been present in GTA since GTA3 at least. That game literally kicked off the 3D universe with a bank heist (it was a cutscene albeit).
We still have no idea how the full story of GTAVI will pan out but it should really be expected that there will be the odd heist on top of other aspects of criminality.

GhostScholar18d ago

Yes but starting with gta v that was the thrust of the whole game. I just miss the mission variety of the games prior to V.

-Foxtrot18d ago

"I miss having just one playable character too"

I have to agree, I felt like I couldn't really invest enough time in anyone during GTAV because we kept switching and out of all of them Trevor was the only fresh of breath air since Michael just reminded me of Tommy and Franklin reminded me of CJ. Also only allowing you to buy certain properties with certain characters was annoying.

I'm hoping with the two characters being romantically linked it means they share all their properties and investments in the game.

PhillyDonJawn19d ago

They're definitely gonna charge 2x. Full cost for the story. $80 Full cost for the MP. $80 complete $160 Bundle with some in game currency and Cosmetic dlc. $200

Ninver18d ago

And I'll give them a nice middle finger and buy 2 other games.

fsfsxii18d ago

I’ll buy two copied just to piss you people off.

PhillyDonJawn18d ago

Why would I be pissed? Its gta id buy that sht @$300 lol. I just acknowledged the bs prices the game industry is pulling

Ninver18d ago

But why would anyone be pissed if you're dumb enough to fork over that amount of cash. It's your money lol.

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Why The Rumored $1 Billion Budget For Grand Theft Auto VI Does Not Add Up

Here's why the rumored $1 billion budget for Rockstar Games' upcoming open world action game, Grand Theft Auto VI, doesn't quite add up.

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thorstein20d ago

"Or was it i̶n̶f̶o̶r̶m̶e̶d̶ guesswork from analysts?"

Video game budgets will always be fictional, just like Hollywood movies. Unless there are receipts it's all speculation.

And Take Two has a marketing department with an already approved budget (just like studios in Hollywood).

thorstein20d ago

(Continue...I was in the Lincoln Tunnel)
Budgeting isn't included in the total cost because it is a separate budget. These companies intentionally inflate the numbers so they pay less in taxes.

This is not a new trend. And if you give your CEO $30 million per year and a game takes 5 years, you just add that $150million to the budget (CNN).

VenomUK19d ago

The costs don’t seem out of the realms of possibility. Remember that Rockstar isn’t just releasing just the GTA VI single player game, it has been building an online platform that will far surpass that of GTA V in size and scope that could last for 15 years or more - that takes significant investment.

rudero19d ago

Absolutely anything to do with the product is in the budget.
That is the very definition of BUDGET.

The majority of the budget is marketing and not producing the game.

Then said companies can tag anything else they want in said “budget”.

And the one thing that gta games have is commercials galore.

Early hands on… in the budget.
Review copies.. in the budget.

senorfartcushion19d ago

How much you have as a budget is different from how much you spend making a product. This is one thing journalists never seem to get

isarai20d ago

I don't know where they get these numbers, absolutely NO games is spending anywhere near that amount on production even including marketing. If we're talking lifetime estimates for like a 10yr plan maybe, but even that would be a very vague projection. RDR2 at the time of release cost less that GTAV did and GTAV cost about 265mil with marketing being an average of about 200-300mil each.

Lightning7720d ago

I believe it's somewhere around there. Cod is 700m$ to make. I think GTA could be around there if not more. The insane level of detail in the trailer says it all.

Yeah I believe it's around there personally.

goken20d ago

The $700m cod budget is for tax purposes imho.
I also seriously doubt a game even as top notch as GTA would cost a billion to make.

QuantumMechanic20d ago

Yeah, that would be tax fraud. Public companies are independenly audited. They cannot just put whatever number they want "for tax purposes".

thorstein19d ago

@quantum

It's literally called Hollywood Accounting when movie studios do it.

So, you believe that goken and I are wrong, and Return of the Jedi never turned a profit.

It happens all the time.

anast19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Hate to break it to you Quantum, but multi-billion dollar companies don't have to follow the rules.

QuantumMechanic19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

There's a difference between choosing how to allocate corporate/merchandising/royalt y expenses ("Hollywood accounting") and fraudulently inflating project expenses (ILLEGAL). Even if the IRS didn't catch wind of this accounting immediately, the SEC requires quarterly third-party financial audits of public companies. Corporate executives get sued and go to jail for misrepresenting company performance because it affects the value of publically-traded shares.

thorstein19d ago

@Quantim

"It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."

You're doubling down and we are just trying to get you to understand.

Of course it's legal, their politicians made it so.

QuantumMechanic19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

There's nothing I "need to understand". I have no problem with "Hollywood accounting" (which is legal because all expenses are taken into account in some capacity on the balance sheet). I was arguing against coming up with some large number "for tax purposes" which cannot come from nothing; it must be documented with receipts/invoices. If a company claims total cost of a production is $700M because they included fixed operating costs, no problem there! If they claim this cost without spending this cost on some component of their operations or the project, that is fraud and they will not pass their SEC audit (if they are a public company). Period.

https://www.sec.gov/about/r...

thorstein17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

"There's nothing I need to understand. I don't have any problem with Hollywood Accounting (which is legal..."

Have a good day, guy.

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SimpleSlave20d ago

To be fair, the $700 million in development costs were over the game’s lifecycle, not just development - Black Ops Cold War (2020) in this case. And of course, this also include their marketing campaign.

But then, you take into account Activision Blizzard's shenanigans for not paying taxes, even getting tax refunds, moving billions to tax havens, plus all the money paid by Microsawft and Sony for exclusive deals, and I bet you that figure is substantially way lower than $700 millions. And I do mean SUBSTANTIALLY lower than that.

Oh, and if you think Rockstar hasn't figure out that scheme by now, lol, they have. They all have.

walken720d ago

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwnnnn n.

ravens5219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Same way the $100 rumor started, silly people.

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GTA5 Has Sold Over 215 Million Copies, Red Dead Redemption 2 Has Sold Over 74 Million Units

Take-Two announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2025, also sharing an update on the sales of GTA5 and Red Dead Redemption 2.
The anticipation for GTA6 has reached fever pitch, with the latest trailer being the biggest video launch of all time.

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LostPotato20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Milk...get your milk...and so much more. Really when you release the same games in three editions over 15 years it's amazing how much money, and the amount of sales you earn. It's amazing how no one can compete.

Mr_cheese20d ago

To be fair, no many companies could release the same game over and over. They've earned that whether we agree or not

DarXyde20d ago

I mean Resident Evil 4 has had longer legs and still hasn't done anything like this.

Profchaos20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

GTA v isn't the only game that's released three consoles generations running but nothing has sold those numbers including GTA San Andreas which is now 4 console generations deep.

anast20d ago

Looks like a 2040 release for GTA6

gold_drake20d ago

thats insane right?
absolutely insane

rlow119d ago

No surprising considering that it’s been on every major platform and store.

I decided to look up the longest and most sold games list. To my surprise Tetris has takes the top spot.