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Why Forspoken's Frey Holland May Have a Hard Time Being a Likeable Protagonist

Forspoken's protagonist is Frey Holland, and she has drawn mixed reception from gamers, although her awkwardness may be due to her rough history.

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CrimsonWing69968d ago

I’ll be honest, I haven’t seen or heard anything from any of the trailers that’s made me feel like she’s annoying.

ClayRules2012968d ago

Yeah, I haven’t either. I don’t get why there seems to be a decent amount of hate when it comes to her and her voice/performances (from trailers) being called annoying and cringy and that of a CW show. I just don’t see it🤷🏼‍♂️

While I can’t comment on the quality of the performances overall, yet, by Frey, I don’t think it’s going to be bad or anything. Some of her dialogue in scenes that’ve been shown off don’t really seem outta place or silly to me, but fit the action, the specific moment and could really help immerse and connect the player into the fights along with helping the player FEEL all the more like Frey, building that connecting to her. Here’s hoping anyways🤞🏻

One reason why I love the dialogue moments in comment etc for HZD/HFW.

Eonjay968d ago (Edited 968d ago )

I replayed the first mission of Spiderman again. Just listen to Peter Parker for 5 minutes and tell me he isn't 10x as 'cringy'. But like it doesn't bother anyone one bit. So I take the same attitude towards. Frey. She doesn't bother me either. I like her just as she is and I can't wait to see how her character evolves.

sourOG968d ago

They haven’t showed any dialogue since the first trailer where it was raked over the coals. The gameplay looks fine, they are hiding the cringe now.

Yppupdam967d ago

The only issue I saw with the game was the constant gen z word salad. If they can either cut the dialog down greatly or allow a way to turn off the cringe verbal diarrhea, That would "save" the game in my eyes. From the trailers, what little gameplay was shown looked is fine otherwise.

sourOG967d ago

@yppup

I would have to agree. Maybe it’s voice actor too putting emphasis at weird times like really young people do. The gameplay looked dope from what I saw.

GoodGuy09968d ago

The cringe dialogue and people thinking she's only the protag because we need diversity.
I only care if the game will be good or not and waiting for reviews. A lot of square games are a very mixed bag especially their western styled games.

ClayRules2012968d ago (Edited 968d ago )

@Eonjay
Peter Parker isn’t cringy in that game (I mean, it might be to some) he’s a tech nerd, but a cool guy and just Spider-Man, I don’t know what else to say. I wouldn’t call his dialogue in the first 5 mins cringy, it’s true to his character (while some might think that, as you) I say it’s witty and fits him and doesn’t feel outta place at home.

In terms of Freya, as I said, her dialogue fits the action on screen etc (from trailers shown) and from cutscenes, it doesn’t feel outta place or cringy to me. But only time will tell if she really becomes a likable character with real depth and personality from the beginning of the story, evolving into someone with depth and growth as the story moves along, as she develops her powers, meets new people, fights more menacing bosses, etc. will that effect who she is? Will we possibly she rage from her and maybe see her lose that innocent look shown? Probably not, maybe I’m thinking to much into it haha. Who knows. But I do look forward to playing as her and seeing what she brings to games that’s different and to this hopefully different and unique/fun world of FORSPOKEN.

I’m not expecting an amazing performance, but I think it’ll be good.

Eonjay968d ago

Great comment. Yeah, I personally wouldn't call him cringy. And by the same token I wouldn't call Frey's banter cringy either. I was making the comparison and drawing a common line between the characters. And I appreciate witty charaters to be sure. I was saying that he lays it on way thicker than Frey though and that if we collectively don't have a problem with Peter than why would we have a problem with her? And I totally agree with your thought about her character developing with the story as seems apparent even in the overview trailer.

ClayRules2012968d ago

@Eonjay
Yeah, I get your comparison, not hating on you for doing that.

Yeah, I don’t find Frey’s banter to be cringy either, as I didn’t find Aloy’s banter cringy and I remember specifically some people loving the gameplay but NOT liking her dialogue in gameplay when footage was shown off (because of how she talks to herself) but it works for Aloy, lends itself fine to her and I don’t believe gets in the way of anything or any moments.

And yeah, her developing as a character does seem apparent, from what’s been shown in trailers. I don’t expect anything amazing story wise (gameplay looks fantastic and solid/fast) that’s where I think this game really could shine! Story is still up in the air, but I won’t just toss it out yet, I want to see it for myself and form my own opinion.

If the story sucks, ok, life moves on. If it’s really good, I’ll complete it and hopefully come back for a 2nd go around with new game+? Haha😄

nommers968d ago

That’s because you’re actually sensible and probably understand her monologue describing the situation she’s in is far too little info to discern anything about the overall story and even actual dialogue. Which of course when she was saying those things it wasn’t dialogue lol, it was a monologue until knowledge of another character at that time arises. It sounded like an advertisement of the game and nothing more.

Bobertt968d ago

The dialogue has been pretty cringe in the trailers. The music and dialogue don't fit with the world and action. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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DeathTouch968d ago

She is black a teen and not a bimbo. That is why.

Eonjay968d ago

From the first video people where complaing about her 'blackness' which is par for the course. A lot of people are incapable of seeing that racism is a form of mental illness. An illness that they feel compelled to spread as if it were communicable simply by wishing harm on someone else.

Elda968d ago

Part of racism is that it's mostly taught from family,peers & friends while the other is just hate upon another race due to stereotypes & fear knowing not every person in every race carries themselves stereotypically.

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Yppupdam967d ago (Edited 967d ago )

@gwanyy, Agreed, The word "racist" used to have a specific meaning, Now it is just a word used by people that don't like opinions or views different from their own. It is a weak minded, low resolution conversation ender. Don't like TLOU 1 and 2, your an homophobe, Someone Doesn't like that a characters dialog is cringe and too frequent, assume that it is "actually" because of the protagonists race and try to shut them down with accusations of racism. Where are all the "racists" complaining about the protagonists from Deathloop? or do the "haters" only have a problem with Female POC, so misogyny also. It's just so tiring. ADDENDUM: If there are people complaining about the characters "blackness" I haven't seen that anywhere, the general consensus is the dialog is cringy and way too frequent. a legitimate observation from the trailers that have so far been released.

H9968d ago

Listen I understand the internet is full of racist people, but you have to understand the world is full of people that aren't online 24/7, the whole "judging a character by their skin color" simply doesn't exist in so many places in the world, I don't think I have sat down in real life in a place where anyone ever expressed any sort of care toward the gender or skin color of a character, in my experience the thing that usually get comment on the most IN REAL LIFE is the amount of fanservice, and by all means I want as many female characters with no fanservice as possible, the reason why I don't like what I am seeing from Frey (focus on the "what I am seeing" part) is that so far she is samey, her lines have been said in the same situations in almost every average show or game, if you are samey and barely talk or take screentime then I really wouldn't care but she talks a lot and she is the main character, and I won't pay 70$ simply to see if she will be different in the rest of the game, because by that logic I will need to buy every game that doesn't impress me because "you haven't played it yet you don't know if it will be different"

DeathTouch968d ago (Edited 968d ago )

You don’t need to go very far (this very site) to see sarcastic comments on how this game is “brave and bold” and how it’s “woke” for no particular reason.

Female protagonists exists since the dawn of time, so they surely can’t be dissing that, right? She is also not the first hyped teenager to be a main character in a game, so that is a no-no too. I wonder why people think this game, that has a somewhat bland and stereotypical teenager as a lead, is “woke”, has an “agenda” and is, ironically, “bold and brave”.

H9968d ago

@DeathTouch

first, you further helped my point when you pointed at this site, because like I said on the internet and western society, this is a constant thought, when people see a female protagonist in these places they are either praising it or bashing it, while for most people in real life, a female character is just a character, just like you don't get a unique reaction for seeing a male main character we don't get such reaction for a female protagonist, same with race!

Second, yes normal people don't get upset for a female protagonist, the second point however, the teenager bit, you further helped my point, she isn't the first teenager protagonist, in fact she's like number 163626262 with no apparent variation, you can get away with a cheap character when the type of the character is new but when it's overdone then no, just like when games had tons of grumpy middle aged men, at first I thought i didn't like it yet thought I could bear through it then it was used for more time than the age of Twitter and I can't handle the sight of them anymore, to me, a hyped up teenager that speak with memes is the new angry silent OP Man

DeathTouch968d ago

@H9 the straw man is fierce here.

There are several people reacting to this game as woke, having an agenda and ironically referring to it as bold and brave for including a black female character.

Hell, we had this site almost implode with the reveal of a minor black character for God of War only because she was black, and some people referred to Deathloop as a woke game.

If you or anyone else don’t feel like race is a reason to hate a character, good for you for having common sense, I’m not referring to these people, obviously. But thinking that this game is not getting a lot of hate simply for having a black female character as the lead is, at the very least, uninformed. Just read the comment section for any news on this game and you’ll see.

H9968d ago

@DeathTouch perhaps there's a difference in perspective here, since I don't really value the opinion of people crying woke at everything, like you said people online did lose their minds over a minor Character being black in GOW Ragnarok, but if you want to know if people dislike a character for being "woke" (which is something that lost any semblance of a meaning) then see how much are people arguing about them being woke and how much they are actually making a argument, I do agree with a lot of people here that yes Frey sounds like the average marvel character, she sounds like a reaction streamer than an actual human being, she doesn't even sound like a normal person, in comparison, people complain about Abby and it's usually about her muscles or that she is woke and I rarely see an actual argument, there you could say that she is hated for being woke, I don't see that with Frey, I think that people mostly didn't like her for who she appears to be

Ashunderfire86968d ago

Tell that to John Boyega who got snubbed from the Star Wars Poster In China. He doesn’t want to go near that movie trilogy, after his role as a goofy 🤪 Janitor for the Sith Storm Troopers, who happens to be force sensitive, but was never explored!

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EmperorDalek968d ago

Race has nothing to do with it. The whole game looks ridiculous as far as I can tell.

-Foxtrot968d ago

Maaaaaybe it’s just the writing

No one had a problem when the lead was revealed, it wasn’t until we saw it on action

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ThEusAisPoisonous968d ago

It’s not a mystery, it’s simply just bad writing.

Elda968d ago (Edited 968d ago )

That is clearly your opinion especially when you haven't experienced playing the game.

Pedantic91968d ago (Edited 968d ago )

In a space in which one could be the fan of a video game without ever playing it (a statement that many if not most are fine with) why can't others claim it might be down to bad writing from the snippets of gameplay shown thus far ?

Lore968d ago

Lol but that is what every single trailer when she opens her mouth leads us to believe

Lexreborn2968d ago

I give you a book, it has 34 chapters. You return the book telling me you read one sentence from 4 chapters and it’s bad writing.

You think your view on this book will be seen as credible?

Deathdeliverer968d ago (Edited 968d ago )

I’ve never seen a character get so much hate so early. She looks like someone you can see in the real world Day to day. She isn’t dressed like a battle stripper like in most games. She is dressed like she got pulled out her world on the way to get groceries. Like… regular. Then when it comes to voice acting, at least from the gameplay reveal, she seems good. No annoying voice, no whining, no angst, no depression. Seems upbeat with realistic responses. I pride myself on seeing things from different angles. I simply cannot find anything wrong with the character other than she isn’t what we are used to seeing as a heroine in video games. I love the fact that she looks and speaks realistically. It’s also a welcome change. It’s like people want to influence others into thinking the character design fails or should be disliked so they write it off early. It’s mind boggling.

ClayRules2012968d ago

I couldn’t agree more. The responses from many really is shocking when it comes to how disapproving people are of this character, from the voice acting, to even her look (of course more are bothered by her voice) but my goodness, it’s a girl pulled outta her world (if I’m not mistaken) by surprise, who just wants to get back home, and unfortunately can’t, and as you said, she really does look like she was out to get some groceries, something so simple, which simple nowadays to have your character look, I have no issue with. It doesn’t mean they LACK personality or heart.

And to what you said about her speech, her responses seem genuine, come off genuine, which I found to be really pleasing. In one of the trailers or gameplay videos (I forget which ones) she was jumping for the first time or leaping fast and her excitement was that of someone her age, how they’d react, I believe. It felt natural, as natural as something Nathan Drake would say as he’s just escaped death for the 20th time, and yet, still has that sigh of relief, yet disbelief in his voice.

I look forward to seeing who exactly Frey is. I can’t say she’ll have real depth, only time will tell, when playing the game, but I sure hope so, I hope I come to at least like her and enjoy the journey she goes on, an feel like a total badass. As close to feeling and wielding powers/magic like Doctor Strange/Scarlet Witch as I’m gonna get in a video game…for now😊

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ClayRules2012968d ago

@DontCare2611
I get out plenty haha.

If you don’t think Frey seems genuine in her dialogue, walk and it’s “cringe” you can think that. I disagree and won’t try to convince you.

Nonetheless, have a great Friday and weekend, be safe out there!🙏🏼

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Two Years Later, Forspoken Still Feels Like One Of The Worst-Written Games Ever

Forspoken's horrible writing makes it come across as an instant turn-off for so many, despite its fantastic traversal and passable combat.

-Foxtrot134d ago

It feels like an example of having to many cooks in the Kitchen as there was 4 writers for this alone and it's sad because Amy Hennig was one of them who has a great track record for female characters or writing in general.

_SilverHawk_133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

i cant believe people are still pretending or being willfully ignorant about why forspoken failed and it hasnt anything to do with storyline bad gameplay or performance issues like some would try to assert. ive seen so many games get lauded for being amazing while having terrible storylines and having terrible performance issues that i know quite a lot of gamers encounters but theyll be quiet because the games were highly praised by reviewers. i think forspoken is a very good game.

TheEroica133d ago

Silverhawk really struggling with reality on this one. Lol

-Foxtrot133d ago

To name some

Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Soul Reaver 2
Jak 3
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception

Knushwood Butt133d ago

Thanks.
Haven't played the first three, but am a big fan of Uncharted.

Armaggedon130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

@silverhawk

Good point. I didnt think Forspoken was a bad game by any means and I see what you mean about how strangely inconsistent and chaotic people are in general with their expectations. I call it the “They Live” phenomena, in which people will wear the shades that show the “flaws” with games they dont want to like, but take the shades off when looking at things that they want to like.

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Eonjay133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

One of my favorite games in the last few years is Star Ocean: The Divine force. The story and it's main male character are absolutely trash and far worse than this game by miles . But I still like the game because I love the crafting and combat system.

Not all games need to have a great story. I actually prefer gameplay over story any day. Forspoken also has an excellent combat system which is what sells it for me.

barom133d ago

People will enjoy this game if they’re open minded. Character and writing isn’t bad at all. The marketing was kind of bad but honestly give it a shot and see how you like it.

Pyrofire95133d ago

4 writers isn't even a lot tho.

coolbeans133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

I guess I get to be the "ACKSHUALLY" guy, so here goes. Amy Henning is only credited as a "consultant" and there were actually *more* than 4 writers credited for Forspoken's story.

https://www.imdb.com/title/...

But there's also more to it. On a Kinda Funny Podcast episode after Forspoken's release, Gary Whitta (Rogue One, Book of Eli) talked about the strange situation Square Enix & the main developer set up for him. According to him, he and a few others (maybe Henning too?) were paid to discuss various concepts and lore background together in a writer's room. The idea was to iron out the grander historical details of Forspoken's Wonderland while in a dialogue with the developer about the gameplay mechanics. It's essentially paid-for workshopping which then gets turned over to another group of writers to write dialogue, quest descriptions, etc.

Your overarching point about too many cooks is still correct, but the details are more nuanced. And there seems to be a growing cottage industry of different storytelling layers to most AAA games. One potential cluster of people are paid to essentially write a spec script, another group writes the game's screenplay & storyboards, and then maybe another group are sensitivity readers who filter through it and make their own notes about problematic content. There's no way it's sustainable in the long run.

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gold_drake134d ago

has it rly been two years already?
i wonder if they had to stick to a certain narrative instead of just write good characters.

Army_of_Darkness134d ago

Or... A quick fix would be to do a crossover and reskin the character to look like eve from steller Blade! Boobs, behind and all! Boom! Instant sales spike!

Alos88134d ago

A surface level joke that ignores the mediocre gameplay, samey open world that lacked a strong identity, and an annoying pair of main characters that had no chemistry whatsoever.
But sure, blame it all on people not gooning for her hard enough.

gold_drake133d ago

I dont think uve ever actually played stellar blade did u.

Michiel1989133d ago

probably a combination of that and incompetence

gold_drake133d ago

i wouldnt say incompetence.
id say its more lack of understanding what makes a good conversation between chsracters ha.

Michiel1989133d ago

if it's your job to write for a game and you can't write good conversations between characters, that's a prime example of incompetence

anast134d ago

The writing is bad like 99% of games. The trick is to figure out how sh%& it is in a sea of sh&%. Seems like a waste of rescues to explore this, but content is content.

Lexreborn2134d ago

Writing is definitely horrible across the board and just like how you have people who act like every movie needs to be Oscar worthy to be viewable.

You have a ton of people who believe writing in games is phenomenal because a few do it well. None of the devil may cry or bayonetta games have comprehensible story or even makes a lick of sense. All souls games are literally find the story in the items which no one but devotes do.

Gaming being arbitrarily judge on writing as if the reason we are playing it is for dialogue. We are playing for core mechanics, engaging power ups gorgeous graphics and THEN we look for the narrative. Most narratives ALWAYS are last on the list because regardless how great a story is, if the game is boring you won’t get the story.

But even if a game story is trash if it’s fun literally makes a world of difference.

VersusDMC134d ago

The devil may cry games have simple stories...if you can't tell what's going on in those games then you can't tell what's going on in any story.

Kingdom hearts is a better example.

anast134d ago

Every movie that costs millions to make should be Oscar worthy and to accept anything less sets a low bar. For the money they demand, the people who work on these projects are supposed to be the top of the creative food chain. Accepting less is rewarding expensive mediocrity.

Yui_Suzumiya134d ago

Some of the visual novels I've experienced have some of the best writing I've ever seen in any medium so I guess that's the 1%, lol

goken134d ago

Many of the Yakuza stories were pretty good too, Tales series is not bad too. FF series is generally pretty solid, Metal gears stories, silent hill, RE, Zelda…
So 2%? Lol

anast134d ago

Yes, visual novel are niche, but cool nonetheless.

anast132d ago

@goken

I would still say one, considering the sheer amount of games being released.

jznrpg134d ago (Edited 134d ago )

Were you expecting the script to change? A lot of games lack in the story department but don’t get the same criticism

ravens52134d ago

Wonder why 🤔. Smh. I beat the game and it was good. Just like I'll be doing with Intergalactic.

Eonjay133d ago

Yes people have an absurd obsession with beating down on black female leads in videogames. You can't really get them to admit it or even acknowledge it. There is zero self awareness and there is a clear effort to censor them from existing.

ravens52132d ago

No. They won't admit it. But woke folks know what it is. 👀. Using that ^ with its intended meaning. If you know, you know.

Johnh5223134d ago

Its kinda fun but open world missing the npc’s is bland and her standing in one spot talking to her arm annoying why cant we move?. But for free its definably worth it gameplay fantastic.

Eonjay133d ago

I'm sure this says more about us than the game but I totally agree with you on the talking in place issue. In FF7: R I noticed that there are a lot of intentional pauses where you can't move, run or enter certain menus at points in the game. I find it really annoying. Am I trally that impatient or is it bad design?

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Most Disappointing Game of 2023

VGChartz's Craig S: "Who doesn't love a good dose of schadenfreude every now and then? There was no shortage of that on offer in terms of video games last year, hidden in plain sight amongst the more genuine disappointments (I'll leave it for you to decide which category each of the following games falls into).

One unfortunate trend when it comes to the biggest disappointments of the last year was that so many were new IPs, including Bethesda's latest major release Starfield, the Arkane Studio B-team's abortive attempt at a co-op vampire shooter, and Square Enix's action RPG Forspoken. Mega-franchise Call of Duty and the perennially delayed The Lord of the Rings: Gollum round out the list of Nominees."

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Profchaos467d ago

I think disappointing and bad are not the same thing.

The article calls out lotr Gollum that was not disappointing it was bad

Redfall is both disappointing and bad.

starfield, MW3 sure disappointing.

But if I was to add some disappointments of the year I'd add

firewall ultra absolutely a dumpster fire that killed the studio.

007 goldeneye the port of the N64 game it's disappointing as we didn't get the rare remaster version and the switch version has very poor controls.

Rdr was not the remake we wanted a simple port that didn't even run at 60 fps on launch on ps5

Jedi survivor Just broken on day 1

coolbeans467d ago

-"The article calls out lotr Gollum that was not disappointing it was bad"

I personally fall on the 'Gollum disappointing' spectrum. Here's why: even though Daedalic Entertainment was hopping out of their point-n-click lane, they *were* a solid group of devs that had an unexpected concept. Those two things, cheering on a dev taking a risk with a brand and the odd-yet-intriguing template, at least made me hope for something decent; instead, it's the reason they're only publishing now.

CBaoth467d ago

But the concept never stood a chance, even in the heyday of the Metal Gear/Splinter Cell days. When this was announced, no one was intrigued by its premise. Fell flat on its face. Even if Gollum had come out to glowing reviews the game would've struggled to perform financially. That's why it's not disappointing, just bad. Had no hype. All the other games Prof listed had the potential to sell great or be reviewed better but failed. Low effort remasters like the GTA collection, the RDR port, and MGS Collection could all sell well but still be severely disappointing. Gollum was uninteresting at concept, terrible in its execution. The result was expected sadly.

Sephiroushin365d ago

I don’t know but i don't even would put Gollum on a disappointment list, those list would be for games people expected much more than what they delivered and most people expected Gollum to be bad!

-Foxtrot467d ago

Goldeneye is so weird

We got no proper remaster for it despite the fact it was being worked on and it was almost done apparently then the Xbox version didn't come with online play but the Nintendo Switch one did...the Switch...the system where online play is a f***** ballache.

https://youtu.be/6B8ssbyAeR...

RhinoGamer88467d ago

I recently came back to Redfall, my lord...the controls and movement were a disgrace! I felt like my character was drunk. Zero fine movement control. The XBOX producers on this game should be fired.

OtterX467d ago

I think Diablo IV deserves to be on this list. While not the worst made game, it was one of the most disappointing. Many of us had such high expectations for it and it turned out to be so incredibly dull, a slog to play.

Sonic1881467d ago

It's basically Diablo Immoral 2.0 with lots of microtransactions

DarkZane467d ago

Diablo 3 was as much as a dumpster fire at launch, but a year later, it became a very good game and was well worth playing. Give Diablo 4 the same time. In a year, it's going to be awesome I bet.

coolbeans467d ago

I was under the impression their most-recent update fits that bill.

OtterX467d ago

K I'll try reinstalling in a year or 2.

I didn't play D3 until after the first year, so I will certainly give it another shot.. especially to try and get my money's worth out of it. But at launch, I was bored out of my mind and uninstalled it.

Sonic1881466d ago

That's the biggest issue. Unfinished games with lots of flaws and issues during launch. Unfortunately, most gamers don't forget or forgive that and would rather spend their money on another game

jznrpg467d ago (Edited 467d ago )

Jedi Survivor was disappointing for me because I waited until a month ago to play it and it still has major issues. My saves were getting corrupted so I had to restart an old save however many times and a plethora of other bugs.

Of course there is Redfall Starfield but to me it’s MS overhype underdeliver so I expected it to some extent but not as bad as it was.

Gollum had little to no expectations.

Forspoken was a disappointment but not as bad as it was made out to be especially if you turned on Japanese voice acting. It was a 7 type of game but it looked like it could have been better.

Diablo 4 was scored well at launch but all my friends that loved and played 3 (after years of swasons) up until 4 were disappointed with 4 and don’t play it anymore .

Factions getting canceled was a bit of a disappointment. Not huge as I don’t play gaas much but it was disappointing.

Nintendo not releasing Switch 2 again was disappointing to me. I don’t use my Switch much it’s just so outdated and mosty kiddy games release some more games that I want to play not my kids!

No physical copy for Alan Wake 3 disappointing as hell, actually beyond that it is upsetting (to some extent,I will live of course)

Gamers getting used to owning nothing and renting games is very disappointing. I don’t watch Netflix anymore it’s mosty mediocre crap and rental services will go that direction if allowed.

CBaoth467d ago

this whole gen has been a major disappointment to me. Least amount of gaming I've done since bar/clubbing days. Watching fanboys argue now is akin to a couple of kids fighting over the front seat of a short bus. They can't even argue over games anymore.....cuz there aren't any! With two of the console manufacturers "switching' over to x86 architecture we shouldn't be having these draughts but here we are. And the third happily chugs along selling games on decade old microchips with an OLED screen.

Profchaos467d ago (Edited 467d ago )

X86 is a shared architecture but both run different development pipelines so they still have to Dev for those consoles plus PC and Arm if a switch port is included.

None of this will reduce Dev times games are complex now probably more than they need to be honestly but if every studio takes 3 to 5 or even 10 years to bring out their big titles there's going to be many dry spells

On that note arm processing is far more efficient than x86 I think Nintendo is making the right call sticking with that and we will probably see Sony and Microsoft do the same next gen as more effort is being made to bring arm into desktop space lately

Profchaos467d ago

Being disappointed that Nintendo isn't releasing ultra violent games is like being disappointed that the the next GTA game is open world. Plus totk and Metroid prime remaster did come out this year that's about as violent as they will even get

Im pretty certain that one experiment in publishing devils third is one they would like to forget.

Plus all rumours for the switch 2 places it's release in 2024 they make killer numbers at Christmas if they announce they are making a switch 2 those sales dwindle and shareholders get upset. If a switch 2 doesn't release this year that's disappointing. And if third party's don't develop for it even more so there's zero garuntee they will

I agree gamers getting used to owning nothing is a huge disappointment I don't think many will go silently into that one though

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I Hope 2024 Isn't As Bad For PC Ports As 2023 Was

Ahmed from eXputer writes "The quality of PC ports has been seeing a severe decline recently, and many gamers have had enough."