From Digital Foundry: "There's a wealth of PlayStation 3 exclusive games that remain locked to the system - console-exclusive titles that sold millions of copies in their day that are no longer playable natively on modern systems. Sony itself has a system in place to make them accessible at least - the streaming-based PlayStation Now - but what you're looking at are compromised versions of the original experience, marred with image quality and latency problems. However, there is a route forward, albeit to a limited audience. The open source RPCS3 emulator allows PC users to access the PlayStation 3 library, and I've been playing Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots at 4K resolution at 60fps, with 16x anisotropic filtering. It's a remarkable showcase of what could be, whether it is via local emulation on a PlayStation console, or via a Bluepoint-class remaster.
At Digital Foundry, we always desire the highest possible frame-rates with new game releases but also understand this isn't always possible, but Metal Gear Solid 4 is an interesting case as it's a game that teased us with the possibility of 60 frames per second only to stomp on our dreams with its eventual release. Flash back to the Tokyo Game Show in 2005 and we saw a game trailer running flat out at 60 frames per second - a far cry from the final release, that mostly operated in a 20-30fps window. The game did run unlocked, however, so there were sparing sections where 60fps was possible - a teaser of the game it was supposed to be."
Metal Gear Solid 4's iconic installation screen has been turned into an animated wallpaper for Wallpaper Engine.
I’m giving you an upvote to counter wherever that downvote came from.
Classic line!
I think it's coming after MGS3 remake. We will most likely get MGS collection 2
Cultured Vultures: If you’ve got some feelings you want to dredge up all over again, or if spending more than 15 minutes on Twitter has caused you to become completely numb, these are the saddest video game moments that we will never forget.
Kingdom hearts was really sad at the end. The darkness when Jenny dies was shocking and sad
Mine have to be last of us, Joel's daughter. Maybe it hits different when you have kids vs bot. I'll throw ff7 up there to. On the verge of looking like some sort of love triangle then bam, death
I think Dom's wife's death in Gears 2 was sadder then Dom. Dom's death in Gears 3 just felt rushed.
The game's assistant producer says the number of discs was an issue.
Obviously they would had to remove all references to bluray in the game had they actually proceeded to make this happen. Id bet it would be something like at least 3-4 discs though.
The most interesting thing to hear is that there was no exclusivity deal, which we all assumed there was.
It was simply Sony's forward thinking and tech that put them in the position where there console was the only one that could do it the way Konami wanted.
This gives me hope mgs 4 will definitely be a part of the volume 2 collection
The fact that mgs 4 hasn’t been on ps4 or 5 is a real head scratcher. Seems like a really dumb move. Also if it was such forward tech on the ps3 why wasn’t it put out on ps4? Doesn’t makes sense.
@Ghost
Forward move at the time. Plus the PS3 exclusives arent the easiest to port and Konami, especially with the fallout of MGS’ creator, probably won’t invest the time and money on it.
@Darth
They would also have to get rid of Apple products. The PS3 and PSP in the nomad. Rerecord the inside joke about swapping discs and mentioning the PS3.
MG4 is my personal favorite of the series. I’d def rebuy the remake to play the game again. I do wonder why they haven’t ported 4 to ps4 or ps5.
@ Cobra Kai - I don't know, man, they've gone a while without making money since Kojima left, I think they're wanting to make money again and that's money, just not as might as they might think. They're better off letting Metal Gear lie in infamy and letting new aspiring developers that want to work on new games, like Silent Hill are their best bets
@Neo
They were invested in pachinko and soccer. Konami used to be one of my favorite game companies, then they just didn’t care about video games.
Now that both Xbox and PlayStation use Blu-ray wouldn’t those jokes stay in and instead apply to Nintendo now
MGS4 is about 32GB. Most of the big data files were merely uncompressed audio and high quality HD video used extensively in MGS4. The game used the space because it was available, not because it really needed to.
You could probably more than halve the space required settling for normal 360 compression codecs and say 720p compressed video files. Fit the whole game on two dual layer DVD discs.
Case in point was MGSV ended up only 25GB, despite that game having massively better visuals and big environments. Second case: FFXIII was 38GB on PS3 but only 18GB on X360, because compression.
The MGS franchise always had real-time cutscenes so those aren't compressible video files. The older games had some real-life video footage but they've stopped using these with MGS4, so I don't know what extensive usage of HD video you're talking about.
Actually Metal Gear Solid 4 had about thirteen minutes of of HD video at the very start of the game, but the point was the 7.1 soundtrack throughout was uncompressed. Eight channels. This was a massive chunk of the data on the disc. The game had 8 hours of cut scene audio alone. Plus music and dialogue codecs and everything else actually in game!
It wouldn't be very hard to compress all this down to far smaller file sizes with minimal quality loss. It certainly wasn't the visuals or texture assets that made the game file size 32GB! None of this was critical to the game actually working compressed and mixed for 6 channels which was far more common anyway.
I'm glad that I cleared that up for you.
The good news from this means it should be possible to port to current gen consoles if they were able to get it to run without the CELL.
I do remember back then how everyone said it was only possible on the CELL reminds me of todays it's only possible on the PS5's SSD.
That's their 20+ yrs side effects of sodium intake, delusions, hopes and dreams. also known as la la land syndrome...They all suffer from this.
Can't comment on the 'only possible on the CELL' part but if a game was made specifically utilizing CELL's complex architecture, then it was more difficult to port but not totally impossible.
Now if there exists a X360 port of MGS4, then it should be relatively feasible to port to x86 based systems.
A smart person says a game made for the Cell makes it harder to port to other platforms. A sparky person says a game made for PS3 is only possible because of the Cell, or any other negative PlayStation derivative.
So porting it shouldn't be hard. A 360 is very similar to modern console and PC structure.
Xbox 360 is not similar to modern consoles. Xbox 360 ran on a multi-core PowerPC processor. Apple had to write Rosetta to make PowerPC apps run on Intel processors when they switched from PowerPC to Intel. It’s why Xbox 360 backwards compatibility is on a game-by-game basis. Funny enough, the Cell Processor is a custom PowerPC processor.
As much as I would love to play mgs4 again, and I still hope to, I know playing it will bring back my old school Metal Gear Online days, and I miss that part of the game so, so much. 😢
Man MGO was so damn good. That and KZ2 are probably the best multiplayer games imo.
The game is still online via fan servers, I think its even playable on PC these days. You can play MGO 2 right now if you wanted to, nothing is stopping you from doing so.
isnt this old news anyway? did they not say that Microsoft were generally more interested in Rising back in the old days?
From the mouth of Snake himself: https://youtu.be/vkdKNuzO1R...
Curious if Sony has ever tried to get RPCS3 running on a PS4 or PS5?
Konami should have put the money they wasted on the last Contra and Metal gear survive on a MGS4 remaster. Or a whole series remaster for the PS4 and XB. It would have actually made them more money.
Damn. I really wished Sony would get this ip from konami. What a franchise
Sony really needs to just buy Konami's dormant IPs. Surely Konami would be open for the right deal.
This is what Sony could and should have offered with PS+ premium.
They should just go license RPCS3 (which may not even need licensing depending on what OSS license was used) - or hire the team behind it.
I wonder if we’ll ever see RPCS3 running on Xbox now that it runs emulators. I bet someone is looking into porting it.