Elden Ring Makes Me Wish FromSoftware Would Do Something Else

Elden Ring is meant to be the evolution of the Souls formula. I wish FromSoftware would do something else instead.

[ArchangelMike]

I think you simply burned yourself out with the previous souls games tbh. If you have platinum trophies in every souls game, it's no wonder you would be bored with the formula by now. For those of us moderates who might have only beaten a couple of souls games (Demon Souls, Dark Souls 3, and Bloodbourne to be precise - still working on finishing Sekiro), Elder Ring is an absolute joy.

Maybe you should give yourself a break from souls games for a while, go play some other games for a couple of months, then come back to it. You'll see how much of a difference it makes.

[Lilrizky]

Na I've platinumed them all and I still can't stop thinking about Elden Ring. Been watching lore videos.

[Crows90]

Same here

[yoshatabi]

I platinumed every single souls related game. I'm not burnt out at all personally. I hope they keep doing that they're doing

[Sephiroushin]

Nah I have got plat on all of them and i still love elden ring, even if they are alike they are years away from each other; if the person played them all then yes it could burn you. Every game has only same base though, they all have stuff that chance how you play them

[SDuck]

What games do you best recommend after Elden Ring for a 1st timer? I had Sekiro but I'm still struggling way too much

[philm87]

Demon's Souls remake is the easiest I've played. I find Bloodborne and Sekiro the toughest. Dark Souls 3 is probably in the middle somewhere.

[Lilrizky]

Do it in the order they've released the games but the latest versions of them"

Demon's Souls (ps5)
Dark Souls remastered
Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the first sin (ps4)
Bloodborne
Dark Souls 3
Sekiro

Outside of maybe DS2 they all get gradually harder for first timers.

[fitofficial]

I've platinumed them all and am still in awe of Elden Ring. The fact that there are probably 2-3 DLCs coming blows my mind.

[isarai]

Wish they would make a new tenchu, makes me sad that they were making one but turned unto Sekirio instead 😕

[Eidolon]

Fking loved Tenchu. Think they could nail it if they stay true to the genre, but I think by now FromSoftware is good at what it's known for and is sticking too its guns, super safe.. Tenchu would become something else.

[outsider1624]

Loved Tenchu. But if they ever do one..I'd hope for some grounded ninja stuff and supernatural monsters like sekiro. But they gotta change their engine. It looks outdated now.

[Sephiroushin]

Sekiro is the closer you will get, they actually made it because they wanted to develop a tenchu and thats what they got

[neutralgamer1992]

After the way ER had sold I doubt they will do something else anytime soon. They have done some very underated games in the past so if they can return to that it would be awesome

I just feel like the days of AA games are done. Now it seems publishers are only interested in making huge AAA titles or we have the indie scene. The days of having mid size publishers are long gone. Not every games need 50 million dollar budget

[CrimsonWing69]

What is this…

[Bobertt]

Elden Ring is a great game and great open world game but it's not the best Dark Souls type game. It does lose the atmosphere and some of what made Bloodborne and Dark Souls great by going open world. In the beginning it's cool seeing the new areas but you spend so much time in each area that eventually you know longer care about the open world aspect and just want to find that dungeon or thing you were looking for in the open world to move on. Also being able to get almost anywhere from the start does screw up the progression and some quests if you don't use a guide. If you go on the reddit there are a lot of people who don't know how important the side quests are and just follow the main quest and then they reach the Capital and say everything is too hard, or they don't have enough materials, or how were they supposed to find this NPC for some item they want. Then on the flip side there are the people who explore everywhere and find all the secret areas and items and then say the game is too easy and they aren't having fun because they got too strong doing areas they were meant to do later and are now back in mid game areas where they steamroll everything. Compared to a more curated linear design where things don't wear out their welcome and the progression is better to keep fights more balanced. I still love Elden Ring but i think they should keep the open world aspect to Elden Ring and it's sequels and if they make Dark Souls 4 or Bloodborne 2 return to the linear design.

[SyntheticForm]

"Elden Ring is a great game and great open world game but it's not the best Dark Souls type game. It does lose the atmosphere and some of what made Bloodborne and Dark Souls great by going open world."

I know that it's a souls style game in many ways, but Elden Ring is its own game with its own atmosphere. The idea that it "loses atmosphere" because it's not linear like Dark Souls is silly. Actually, it gains atmosphere - its own atmosphere.

If they are making another Dark Souls game, I doubt it'd be open like Elden Ring. From have shown that they can keep beloved mechanics while changing things up. Bloodborne and Elden Ring are proof of that.

The only 'problem' with Elden Ring is that the open-world makes the story feel a bit disjointed. From are already cryptic as it is with their storytelling, and now, depending on where you go and what you do first, the story can feel extremely WTFish at times.

[on_line_forever]

Agreed , I love elden ring and I will still love it BUT I love the atmosphere and soundtrack in Dark souls & bloodborn much more and I agree with you again I hope they keep the open world aspect to Elden Ring and it's sequels and if they make Dark Souls 4 or Bloodborne 2 return to the linear design

[Flawlessmic]

Yea with elden ring selling as well as it has id say were getting elden ring 2 next and no complaints from.ke if that is the case, also wouldnt complain if theybdid something new though so either way im good.

[ChubbyBlade]

Armored core is being worked on right now

[SurgicalMenace]

Exactly, just a tired formula hyped by so many people just discovering Soul-types. Combat is so basic that you wonder how the hell it's getting away with it. Games like: Nioh, Sekiro, GoW, hell even Strangers of Paradise have blazing fast, progressive combat. Story is all over the place because how dare the game have structure. The open world makes it more of a chore to play than a marvel to behold. I've grinded out to lv 390 but making it to 400 just seems pointless. The boss fights are cheap not challenging, which isn't helped with the nerfing of weapons. Just a very dated formula in an open world setting, and I really wanted to like this game. I'm just not willing to jump on the "best game ever" bandwagon. Perhaps for individuals with a very limited library, that makes it more understandable.

[Lilrizky]

I have 150 platinum trophies including all the FS games and I love it so I don't think the limited library point holds much weight

And it's crazy how much you dislike the game but put in hours to get to level 400. I put in about 120 hours and I ended up at like 150? You really wanted to like this game but liked it enough to put THAT many hours in? It doesn't make any sense

[Sephiroushin]

He probably grinded out using exploit, i love the game and i am 150 can imagine how hard would it be to just grind for 1 lv at 200, especially with a game you hate...

@surgical Also i probably have more games, than you, library has nothing to do with this and btw sekiro is more simple than dark souls game, just a hand with few tools and and a katana deflecting enemies attacks, this is coming from someone which sekiro is fav of all the souls

[Flawlessmic]

🤣 u sound like that person at a restaraunt who licks his plate clean then complains that the food was unedibable and terrible.

If u have seriously played enough to be level 390 then clearly the game is pretty dam good as that would take atleast 150+ hours unless u really like playing games that ubdont think are great for 150+ hrs lol

Im only lvl 147 and have played 68 hours, starting to get over it now, just need to beat dragonlord placidux and then i will have completed the main story as well as every hard boss in the game so theres not much more point in me playing. it was great while it lasted which a considerable amount more than most games

Is it the greatest game of all time, probably not, is it up there with the best of them then yea it is

[Greg2801]

You are either lying or you farmed the whole game using exploits like the big bird farm, and then start playing the game wondering why it's al so easy. You would one shot bosses at that level
Gettin to lvl 390 is impossible if you just play the game without farming for hours.

You probably spend hours farming and burned yourself out.

Only thing that was more cheap than challenging for me in this game was Melenia's blade dance attack.

I finished Elden Ring 100% at lvl 142 and put 135 hours into it.

[SurgicalMenace]

Much like life, I tend to spend my time training where most don't. Yes, I farm and master each weapon that I enjoy using. The farm is the fun factor for me, hence art imitating life. It's not that I absolutely hate it, it's just that I don't like it anywhere as close as everyone else does. Melania was the only fight I thoroughly enjoyed, where most only complained about her. It's a one and done so I'm going to finish with the highest level that I'm willing to grind.

[lucian229]

Yeah you're completely a liar it you're saying you got to level 390. That or you got 2000 hours in the game or used exploits.

I have 150 hours and I'm level 160while never grinding . I've done almost everything I think I can do without using a guide and just have to do the last thing after final boss.

You're just on the hater bandwagon lmao and a liar to boot.

[SurgicalMenace]

Guess I have to be a liar and hater coming from an avatar in a comment section. Noted and promptly dismissed. You guys remind of individuals that only find greatness in their games not realizing that there are individuals that have acumen beyond your own. Ever drive a Porcshe or a Ferrari before? If not, then it could almost seem like a fantasy to encounter individuals that have them as daily drivers. You'll tell yourself that "I don't need a Porsche to be happy" though if the option was realistically attainable, you'd consider it. That said, get over it, gentlemen, I don't care for Elden as much as you do. I've put enough time into it that I know it for a fact, and no insult, attempts to ridicule, or adolescent rambling is going to sway me. Good day.

[lucian229]

please surgical, explain how you reached such an insane level in a game you didn't like.....it takes tremendous work to reach that level when the main boss has a recc level of 120....so again...you're a liar lol

[SurgicalMenace]

A whole 150 platinum trophies, what an impressive display of prowess. I bet all the ladies are just lining up for a chance with such a champion. Makes a lot of sense to a person who is an investor in the real world, you give a prospect enough time to properly determine if you truly like it or not. When I don't like it, one's argument could hinge on the notion that I didn't play it enough, well my approach lays that to rest. I'm more than sure with that many platinum trophies you are less likely to enjoy what you do for a living to clock so many hours in a virtual setting. I love what I do so spending time with what I don't is purely optional. Compliment that with a library of over 10k games at my disposal.

[Flawlessmic]

I still think ur take doesnt make sense, there splaying a game to make a fair judgment then theres playing a game 200+ hrs that doesnt require that investment, so either the game is spectacular or your a liar.

Iv mainlined the story beaten all the trophy bosses barring dragonlord and completed a fair few side quests in 70 hours, i love it but im starting to be over it and thats after 70.

So no way u required to be lvl 390 to make a fair judgement on this game.

Ps. Gave you a like cause that first part made me laugh 🤣

[darren_poolies]

You sound like a douche. Complaining that people won't accept your opinion whilst simultaneously not accepting others.

"I'm more than sure with that many platinum trophies you are less likely to enjoy what you do for a living to clock so many hours in a virtual setting."

Sorry but what has that got to do with anything? It's ok for you to play games for hundreds of hours but not others?

[SurgicalMenace]

@Mr. Poolie

Sound like, but am I? Perhaps to you, but that's not an absolute assessment, so....dismissed? Complaining? Where? There's no level of discontent nor grievance communicated in my statements. I'm where I'm at, and there's nothing that can be said to deter me from my conclusion. You're projecting, sir.

My quote that you highlighted was a proposed observation/hypothesis not an opinion. I mean, you guys are the individuals who fail to understand that people have different motivations of play, not me. There was no element of contention nor judgement in my communications. I'll grant you a little antagonistic banter but that's just keeps it all entertaining, for me. You gentlemen have marvelous day.

[MrChow666]

I was kind of burned out with souls games after playing demons souls, dark souls 1&2 and Bloodborne but Elden Ring has been like rediscovering the souls games, not only that, it has reignited my passion for gaming too.

[MrChow666]

Btw level 400 is insane, and he doesn't like the game..Wtf

[SurgicalMenace]

I've grinded many hours in life doing what I had to do too, didn't like that either, but I'm now in a place where I'm set for life, with as much time as I'd like doing what I want. I have friends that play the game, and I'm good at it, so all my hours came from playing with them to show them that it's not as hard when you understand the mechanics of the game. You know things like; invincibility frames, animation resets, frame loops, attack patterns, animation triggers, etc. Most people play games for fun but I play games to master them. The minds that create the games facinate me far more than the experience of playing them. I may not have 150 plats, but I've mastered the industry enough to make millions within it.

There's nothing wrong with playing games for countless hours, especially when your real world prowess generates resources while you do it. If you're going to play be sure that you can step away from the controller and name your price. Grinding in games becomes easy when your have antidotes that apply realistically.

[Flawlessmic]

@surgical

You make your self sound like some balling millionaire living the high life, with ur set for life and ferrari comments.i know if that was the case for me last thing id be doing is sitting on some gaming website replying to random dudes talking up how perfrct my life is and how good i am 🤣🤣

Lied about elden and now about your life lol

Not sure why u feel need to try impress random dudes on the internet but please go on, teach us your ways?

[SurgicalMenace]

That is the reality that make you more comfortable with the results of your life's contributions. The Porsche and Ferrari were both scenario references, the density level is high in here, it would seem. What you would do "IF" you had it opposed to having it are 2 different things. Gaming made me my wealth and I'll remain in it until I can't anymore. I talk to random people in public so how is this any different? It's not aimed to impress, it's just a true account. I was tought that dissatisfied people will always say you're bragging/lying/boasting about success because they only know what failure sounds like. Those words have rung true since that man imparted his wisdom to me.

Crazy thing is, it HAS to be a lie for you because you can't see outside of your own efforts or the lack thereof, one could gather. I'm just cruising the sites a bit before I go outside to play, sir. You guys and your fervent drive to stomp out anyone that doesn't agree with you helps to keep the cognition sharp. It's truly a great source of entertainment.

[darren_poolies]

You grinded to lvl 390 but didn't like the game, yeah, because that makes sense.

[ChubbyBlade]

Yea you ain’t played it.

[anast]

So you overleveled and got bored.

[Blackcanary]

I see where Surgical is coming from. I love farming its my favourite thing to do. got my character to level 260 completed the game did Ranni the witch side quest did quite a few mini bosses. But for me farming was the only thing i liked about the game. I have OCD so once I start a game I have to finish. But there is alot about this game I just didn't enjoy.

[SurgicalMenace]

All I'm trying to say. There was plenty to grind but not a lot to do that was enjoyable, to me.

[wiegraf]

At least he didn't ask for an easy mode in the article

[Flawlessmic]

Why does the thought of having a mode that doesnt impact ur preffered mode, it simply give another person options how they want to play bother people like u so much?

Dont tell me the difficulty makes the game fun cause trust me the beaty and exploration of elden ring would be fun regardless, i wouldve enjoyed myself either way.

And i dont think people want an easy mode per say, id say people want an easier mode to select where its still a challeneg just less so.

Im starting to think its just a superiority complex with u guys and u just like having something to lord over most gamers and say im great at this hard game u cant or dont have the time to beat im better than u.

[philm87]

The point is that many people wouldn't be able to resist the choice of selecting an easier mode. Then they'd miss out on a lot of the things that make the game great. If you get to a boss that you can't beat, you're forced into looking into how to beat it. There's always a way, whether it's levelling up more, changing your equipment to suit their weaknesses, or refining your fighting technique/tactics.

[Flawlessmic]

@philm

I totally get that part of the game might be lost, but like i said i dont think people want a cake walk mode, just something a little easier.

It could be something as simple keeping ur runes when you die, or making you deal just a little bit more damage, or lessining enemys damage just a bit.

So people would still need to learn and try things.

Yes the triumph might not means as much but there is still a great game to be had there.

People enjoy easier games everyday without the insane difficulty.

There are many ways people can enjoy a game.

As long as the mode i would like to play is there, i dont see whats wrong with offering more people ways to play.

Going of how the easy mode haters think apparently FS games are absolutely terrible and its because it difficult that its good?

Otherwise the argument doesnt make sense.

I still feel its the sense of superiority it gives gamers that are against giving players options.

[philm87]

It's part of the identity of the game that there isn't this choice though. There's many other games to play if people don't like it.

[SullysCigar]

They have done something else.

Check out their game called Déraciné on PSVR.

[Killer2020UK]

Try fingers, but hole

[Extermin8or3_]

Platinumed ekden ring, absolutely loved it. Coukd still play it more as there's plenty more to discover. I want from software to continue to make these kind of games....

[GoodGuy09]

Honestly I just want more souls style games lol. No need for them to risk and change it up if most are still loving their games. At least they do make different sorta experimental games like sekiro and bloodborne that are still top notch.

[Teflon02]

I got bored of the game after I was satisfied with making my mage lmao. In games like that, I tend to enjoy the creation part over the game. Spent like 4 hours on it's week character creation just because lol. Then started over like 5 times in 10 hours. Finally got what I wanted. After I got everything I wanted I had no interest in doing more boss rushes lol. It got old quick for me personally

[philm87]

I don't think you've really scratched the surface of the game yet though.

[ChubbyBlade]

Yea so you basically played the tutorial and stopped. Why should anyone care what you think?

[lucian229]

They made sekiro, that was different. They're also making a new armored core so thst should be interesting.

The only thing I think they need to change is their graphics engine. That Def needs an upgrade, otherwise.... Maybe you should just play other games.

[Nacho_Z]

I think it feels different and I love the game despite being a little bit bored of the formula by the time DS3 came out.

I wouldn't have minded if they'd mixed up some of the more superficial elements for Elden Ring. Feels like it's got the same font, sound effects, weapon names. Same red phantoms and a multitude of other things. Could have changed some of that stuff to freshen it up.

[moriarty1889]

I disagree. They have done very well with this formula and should continue. Wish we got a Bloodborne 2.

[MrChow666]

Maybe open world Bloodborne2? Hmmm that sounds interesting, I'd be fine if it is more linear tho

[lucian229]

I think I prefer bloodborne to be linear honestly since it's usually within some really cool cities

[Hikoran]

It's like asking EA to not make another Fifa, as long as it makes money.. they will keep doing it.

[philm87]

Elden Ring just makes me excited for what they'll cook up next. Sure, it's the same (much loved) formula at it's core, but it's also massively different in a lot of other ways and packed full of great new ideas.

[RyanShutup]

Play Sekiro... it's very different to the "From" formula... similar but very different.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I'm still waiting on a new Armored Core game, Souls games are great and all, but something different would be even better, especially if it's an Armored Core game.

[ChubbyBlade]

They’re working on an armored cores

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I know, but they announced it ages ago, and it's been so long since the last game, I feel like I've been waiting forever.

[ChubbyBlade]

They are. They’re working on the next armored core.

[gangsta_red]

I would like to see FromSoftware's take on sci Fi.

I can see them doing some type of dystopian, bleak, neo type future or an abandoned advanced civilization that was betrayed by their own technology that is still alive and expanding.

[Fist4achin]

The Surge and Surge 2 might fill what you're seeking with the dystopian l, bleak neo type future.

[gangsta_red]

Yeah, you're definitely right. I never played part 2

[ChubbyBlade]

You do know they made the armored core games right? And are making another?

[gangsta_red]

Not really the same as their Souls type games which I was referring to

[BrainSyphoned]

Maybe a racing game where the red invader cars drive the wrong way and you have to praise the son of Earnhardt to get support to run them off the road. If the race is still too difficult to defeat then you can ring a bell and Dale Sr. will appear and dominate your competition for you. I nominate this as the most random F'd up post I've made this year.

[fitofficial]

Article titles like this make me wish game "jOuRnAlIsTs" would do something else.

[anast]

They do something else...the writer says they should have stuck to their strengths. Play some other kind of game. There are different genre for different days.

[kryteris]

like a coherent story or ending/s? demon souls remake did better.

[Gamingisfornerds]

Perhaps a departure from software?

Eh…eh? ;)

[Rangerman1208]

"It has few elements that typically make open-world games engaging, and those it does are hidden behind obtuse design decisions that have been subject of what little criticism has made it through the cracks of constant praise."
When I checked the article this paragraph was linking to, I was sorta baffled that the journalists took serious of many western devs' criticism over the game's UI, especially when many of those devs were known on working with games with cluttered UI. Have they not seen what Ubisoft open world games look like?

[K-Tuck]

It's important to remember the distinctions between UI and UX. The criticism in the article is largely targeted at UX. There's not much of a UI to be had in Elden Ring, menus aside. Instead, critics seem to be talking about things like accessibility and general ease-of-use, i.e. conversation logs so you remember where to go, or the somewhat-recently-added map markers for NPCs.

[franwex]

I think they are working on Armor Core and something else. So wish granted.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

They won’t.

Play something else.

[drizzom]

Well we've got Armored Core 6 in the works. You could give that a try for a change of pace (unless they just remake it into mech souls).