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Valve has no plans for a 'Steam Pass,' but would help Microsoft put Game Pass on Steam

Valve has "nothing philosophical" against making it happen.

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lonewolf10789d ago

Now that would be something if achievable.

Kerppamaister789d ago

I'm seriously contemplating about thinking about possibly getting a Steamdeck perhaps

TheEroica788d ago

So glad I reserved mine day 1... I would gladly take a functional gamepass on steam deck and never look back.

EvertonFC789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

So basically MS have a handheld without actually making one ?
It's what Sony should do also with there new version of psnow

RickRoland789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

Microsoft wouldn’t make money on steam deck sales so no…nor will the steam deck be wildly popular. PC gamers don’t want to play on a handheld. This is a great concept that will fall by the wayside.

EvertonFC789d ago

They'd make money off extra GP subs being on it and using it as a handheld instead of a phone.
Nobody cares about streaming on the go but having a option to have a steam deck on the go with GP or PSNow would he Huge downloading the games on it?

TheEroica788d ago

Microsoft doesn't care about steam deck sales. They would make money on gamepass sub... They don't care which piece of hardware the gamer is playing. It's why these publishers are buying studios. So they control the flow of money surrounding the games.

Also, there are waaaay more people than just "pc gamers" who covet a handheld that plays top tier games on the go. Way more.

Michiel1989788d ago

PC gamers dont want to play on a handheld, and how about the opposite? Console gamers dont wanna play on pc, but can still play pc games now without buying a pc. There were already alternatives for steamdeck beforehand, but now thats its got the Valve/Steam name behind it and from what ive seen its a pretty well designed device, I think you underestimate this machine by a mile.

Also why wouldnt i wanna continue playing my games on the go as a pc gamer?

RickRoland789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

“They'd make money off extra GP subs being on it and using it as a handheld instead of a phone.
Nobody cares about streaming on the go but having a option to have a steam deck on the go with GP or PSNow would he Huge downloading the games on it?”

The appeal of the steam deck is emulation more than anything from what I see from gamers. I don’t think having a subscription for a handheld is a lure in any way. PC gamers already have gamepass on their PC’s if they want it. I don’t think anyone is buying a steamdeck for mobile gamepass. The percentage of people that would do that is VERY small. The majority of people that would use gamepass on a steamdeck would already have a subscription on their desktops.

Andrew336789d ago

Yea, because when I spent the $650 on it the first thing I wanted to do was load up some super old games I could literally play anywhere and on anything else. Having gamepass on the steam deck is exactly one of the things I would want to do. I don't get your logic.

DaCajun788d ago

Wow, do you even grasp how game pass works. I can use it on my desktop, laptop, and even my phone. It's not just tied to one piece of hardware. I can't take my desktop everywhere. That's why i have a gaming Laptop. Which by the way is my way to remote play my PS5 games also when on work trips and it works great. But if game pass comes to steam then that would make it easier than dual booting windows to my Steam Deck. Plus more mobile than my laptop.

Obviously you have no clue what PC gamers want so stop trying to speak for us. Keep your opinions in the first person, you not us. Bet you don't even own a gaming PC of any kind or if you do, you don't utilize it like most PC gamers. Because we just run emulators only, right? Because PC obviously has no games? Emulating is just one of many many many things PC gamers can do with hardware, not the only thing. So why the F would we just want to just emulate games when we can also play current AAA games on a Steam deck. You can even have multi OS boot on it.

Wow crawl back under your bridge TROLL

Michiel1989788d ago

the appeal of steamdeck is emulation? there are so many devices now that can do emulation, phones, psp/vita, pi's. I've seen how it ran control, and it actually ran it really well. Not with ultra graphics on 4k ofc, but from what i could see on the captured footage it looked great. I doubt it will run god of war well at max settings, but imagine playing that on the go, count me in.

RickRoland789d ago

Yea, because when I spent the $650 on it the first thing I wanted to do was load up some super old games I could literally play anywhere and on anything else. Having gamepass on the steam deck is exactly one of the things I would want to do. I don't get your logic.

The poor screen quality, 720p resolution and 1.5 hour battery life is exactly why new games won’t be the target for this device. Not to mention every reviewer says you cannot use it outdoors. It’s a cool piece of tech but it’s still incredibly niche.

Si-Fly789d ago

Why does handheld gaming mean playing a game outside to you? I have a PC (and both PS5 and Series X), my Steam Deck won’t replace those but I will be able to use it when I’m away from home or on Holiday just like I do with my Switch. Gamepass on the Deck would be awesome, I could carry on with the games I’m playing on GP when away from home.

Outlawzz789d ago

This alone would make me want to buy a steamdeck if I could download the games, nevermind the huge steam catalog.

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TheCaptainKuchiki789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

There has to be a reason why nobody other than MS is doing Gamepass.
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Oh it's not profitable.

Andrew336789d ago

And? It making money or not has nothing to do with me enjoying it on steam deck.

Thegr81789d ago

Isn’t Sony making their own version according to industry analysts?

LucasRuinedChildhood789d ago (Edited 789d ago )

Sony likely won't have the big games day 1 though unless they're making a u-turn from their previously rumoured plans. Apparently, a big focus will be on classic games.

Putting your $50m-150m games on a subscription can only be profitable past a huge number of subscribers. Hard to know how exactly that number is but if Netflix has 221m subscribers and only made more money than they were burning fairly recently, it's hard to imagine that 25m GamePass subscribers is yet profitable. It's a long term strategy to reach more consumers.

MS are more than willing to burn the money to become a market leader in the subscription space, but it doesn't make financial sense for many other companies. Valve, for example, do not have enough content of their own to prop up a subscription like this.

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Lightning77789d ago

Netflix wasn't profitable when it went steaming for several years. Now they're worth almost 180 billion.

Netflix had WAY more to lose than MS. Considering that's their only buissness model.

TheCaptainKuchiki789d ago

Netflix still isn't profitable. A company can make losses but be worth billions because investors LOVE big numbers like "100 million subscribers". Since investors love subscription models, they will keep pumping money into Netflix.

FinalFantasyFanatic788d ago

Netflix is great as a service, but I would never invest in it, they just burn way too much money, especially when there's so much competition in the streaming space.

Zhipp788d ago

@Captain
Last i heard Netflix has been profitable for at least the last couple of years. Keep in mind they spend far and away way more than M$ annually when it comes to content creation and licensing as well -- acquisitions notwithstanding, of course.

WGAF789d ago

Netflix depend on subscriptions alone. Gamepass is different in that it can still sell dlc, microtransactions, monthly subscriptions and can also sell the game on gamepass too. People may be more lienient toward buying microtransactions or dlcs if they get to access the game without extra charge.

Retaining subs isn't as hard as Netflix either (Netflix need consistent contents like episodic shows, not movie, to keep subs) because most games have MP element to them.

You cant really compare the two directly because the gamepass isn't reliant on subs alone like Netflix.

Zhipp788d ago

Agreed. The cost of a AAA game is somewhat in line with a Netflix original ($100+ million), but I'd argue gamepass users will spend significantly more time on a title then the equivalent on Netflix, just due to the nature of how people play games.

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The Epic Games Store Has Two More Freebies this Week

It's time to add two more games to your library for free from the Epic Games Store.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 4h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle15h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188112h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio12h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga14h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7243m ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218313h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga12h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan8h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10117h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos16h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-6h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac16h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10115h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic13h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead6h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Garry's Mod Removing All Nintendo Content From Steam Workshop After Takedown Request

The developer of Garry's Mod has announced it is in the process of removing all Nintendo-related content from Steam Workshop after receiving a takedown request from Nintendo.

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gurp1d 3h ago

first emulation, now this
even though I don't play Garry's Mod, it is still bad

Inverno1d 3h ago

I was reading it's all just false reports from a troll who's done things like this in the past and not Nintendo themselves.

-Foxtrot17h ago

Well the games creator Gary Newman confirmed it himself on Twitter.

Inverno10h ago

Seems that's still being debated.