Forza Horizon 5 managed to set a new Forza franchise record when it comes to launch month sales, according to the latest NPD report. Shin Megami Tensei V also set a new dollar sales record for the franchise.
Damn the pokemon power. Still going so strong! Crazy stuff. Only Cod and battlefield could beat him. Unbelievable. Crazy success of shin megami tensei! Cod still the king. Like or not.
Forza Horizon 5 is a beast, just a phenomenal game from top to bottom. The fact that its available on Gamepass yet still near the top with games like COD, Battlefield & Pokemon which everyone who wanted to play those other games had no choice but to buy them. In other words even with over 10mil playing FH5 via Gamepass it still sold enough to be near the top with industry heavy hitters...that says alot about the greatness that Playground delivered, its the best racer there is imo.
My GOTY 2021
It has potential but it’s multiplayer is broken. I’ve honestly have never been so disappointed in a Forza game.
The Pokemon sales do not include downloads, which is estimated on other consoles to be a majority of sales.
Forza, 4th best selling game behind those big names! Key word 'Selling'. That is big since its included with GP...Cant keep and excellent game down. CoD always wins, I my self find the series fun, just let down by Zombies this year. Hopefully they can make up for it with additional content during the seasons.
Call of Duty "will" always win. I don't get all the hate it gets from people then day one the same people purchase it and on Xbox there is no other franchise to compare to Call of Duty.
My favorite part of the call of duty is driving around wherever I want in a mclaren with friends…
Kinda feel bad for Forza. It actually deserved to be 1 or 2. But launching with Battlefield, CoD and Pokémon is like asking to come last unfortunately
it's free on gamepass, add those numbers and it's number 1 by a huge margin
But I was told Game Pass killed sales? That was the narrative in the UK article about Forza's initial sale numbers.
Without gamepass it could have beaten cod and battlefield. Even though I have Gamepass for another 2 months. I bought Forza horizon 5 as its class.and deserves all the sales it gets. Stuff like Halo and Gears am glad there on GP as I didn't have to waste me money on them.
Games like forza shouldn't be on gp day one. This just shows that. Much less halo or forza and gears, but ori and other low profile games could.
@ocelo "Without gamepass it could have beaten cod and battlefield." please Bro what are you smoking are where do the rest of us get it? ..... Thanks for the laugh.
I think some of you are missing the point. Sure its nice that Forza sold alot even though it's on Gamepass but ANYTHING thats part of a subscription does NOT NEED to sell well individually/physically, no it needs to drive up subs and keep the subscribers happy longterm= thats the whole point. From Playgrounds point of view, they are 1st party so they got paid either way, from Microsoft point of view they'll take your money but they would rather you were a new longterm subscriber. Game sales no longer are just about traditional sales methods for Microsoft. As stated before gamepass increases spending within the Xbox ecosystem with gamepass subscribers playing 40% more & spending 20% more compared to people who just a buy their games. https://www.google.com/amp/...
Exactly. Thats why it's not on 1, 2 or 3... And that those 10 millions that play the game didn't buy it. That's one of the problems. No matter how good it's just a rent...
Hahaha, Ori is hardly a low profile game. go check Metacritic. Not to mention IMO(as well as judging from MC score) it beats the pants off of most higher budget games. 2 mill sold for WotW, and countless GotY nominations and wins. What makes it low profile?
Software730. Forza is a system seller like halo and gears. Gamers buy the console to play it. Ori, age of empires flight simulator and others aren't. They are niche games. Gamers don't buy consoles to play those.
Nope, you said "Low profile games". That is a big difference from a system seller..it seems more like an attempt to downplay something. Metroid is not really a system seller. but not low profile at all. Returnal is not a system seller. But not low profile. Your choice of wordplay was obvious and suspect. 2 mill sold is better that some "High Profile" games, and hardly something to make it seem needed to be diminished. I'm pointing out that ilu used the wrong game to make a not good point to begin with.
it definitely hurts sales, but MS is clearly ok with that tradeoff. I picked it up on Steam and it was well worth the price of purchase.
I mean this isn't really a good indicator, or a bad one for that matter. Coming in 4th for a debut game normally is a bad look, but considering the 3 games that it launched against, it's understandable. Without a number we won't know for sure.
I guess the argument that Xbox Game Pass keeps Gamers from buying video games was wrong. Forza Horizon 5 Is a very good game. It definitely deserves all the praise it is getting. Congrats to Playground Games.
Not really. For that to be true it would have to be much higher in the charts. This was the first must have since the launch of the console and its also on last gen consoles and pc. Don't know anyone that says it's great to be 4... There talks about 10 millions played the game... If only half of those or even less got the game.... Amazing game, scores. Did they get the game? It's easy to see the majority didn't. Thats GP for you.
Kind Sir please go find someone else to debate with. Im a grown man with kids, Im not on vdieo game websites to debate my opinions, or yours. HAVE A WONDERFUL REST OF YOUR DAY.
Lol, it was only outsold by COD, BF, and Pokemon. I'm sure there are better articles where you can preach about the evils of GP. This one ain't it.
@OG_TK_Cole "I guess the argument that Xbox Game Pass keeps Gamers from buying video games was wrong" I not sure many will agree with the comment. You got another Xbox 1st party release that's sold really well in say they last 5yrs or since Game Pass released? Both Sony and Nintendo have no trouble selling there 1st party games but Game Pass is a thing because Microsoft can't sell there's.
It certainly proves that it doesn't stop people buying Forza Horizon. Whether that means that it disproves the idea that games in general won't sell well is another matter entirely.
No numbers to verify any of this. And it's only one country. The point others are making us that it could possibly have sold MORE if game pass didn't exist. But we know it sold less because of game pass. Because most of those 10 million *PLAYERS* didn't buy it. Even if it's good.
You know it's rough out there when they got you guys questioning NPD results.
@Atom666 I refuse responding to these guys. They rather debate and argue over two consoles, rather than enjoy themselves by playing video games. You have the XBOX guys constantly trying to discredit the PlayStation guys, and then you have the PlayStation guys trying to discredit the XBOX guys. All this over two pieces of plastic. I dont think the young guys that frequent this website understand that the way they act is not normal behavior. But yet they continue to try and normalize it. Hardcore Gamers are going to play video games anywhere, as long as they get to play the video game that they want to play. The reason being is because most of us Hardcore Gamers have PS5/PS4, XBOX SERIES X/SERIES S/XBOX ONE, NINTENDO SWITCH, and or GAMING PC. Arguing over Consoles is for children.
Has nothing to do with it. Your problem is that you couldn't counter what I said. If game pass wasn't there, it would have sold more after reviews came in. Instead, it was rented by many for $1-$10. Fine for Microsoft as they have enough money to subsidize a service. Did 10 million players BUY it? No. That could have been 10 million *SALES* It may still go on to sell that. The generation is still early. Or it might not because of game pass. Disagree all you like. It's a fact you can't dispute. Putting it on a service created less sales. The very point gamers keep pointing out. Doesn't matter if it's good. Or that you think game pass is value. It sold less than it would have.
Are you surprised? You have individuals on here saying websites are conspiring to artificially boost positive Switch and Series S/X articles at the expense of the PS5. It's not much of a stretch for people like that to began labeling the NPD as fake news when they don't like the outcome. Lmao
What did you say that needs to be "countered". No shit the game might sell even more if it wasn't on GP. Lol. Bold observation on your part! Here's the thing - "most of those 10 million *PLAYERS*" couldn't care less about that. ....Because that's how normal people think. But to now turn against NPD numbers when they've meant so much to the console warriors for so long....that's rough.
Why is this also filed under PS?
They wanted us to know about sales by pinning PS5 with this article as a counter of the narrative that game pass affects sales. Even though the fans keep saying sales don't matter when they actually do to create sequels or keep a developer alive. But we know it affected sales because 10 million players is not 10 million sales. So, game pass did affect sales. The game would have sold more at launch. There's no numbers presented to do a comparison. And it's one country and one month. And Microsoft is too tight lipped to show us when they used to brag before about sales.
Right on point. That is the gold of this news. The real title forza wasn't able to be on top 3 sales on the first Month. The game wasn't even able to be number one on Xbox only chart... "On Xbox platforms, Forza Horizon 5 reached the podium's third place." no spin can be done. Gp affected sales. Those are facts.
The software730. Metroid isn't a system seller? One of the biggest games of Nintendo. You really don't know what youre talking about. Returnal is new I.p. And never was seen as a triple AAA blockbuster game. Microsoft got forza, halo and gears. Everything else isn't. And for me those games can't be day one in any services, because they do billion in days or first week. A 2d indie game doesn't and its not triple A. Is it cool, yes. Does it move consoles by the millions nope. Is there hype like halo or forza nope. Does it get 3000 news, nope. It's not downplay. It's facts
Negative, what are you talking about? Metroid is a big game and not a big seller..I belive the last #s I saw had all of them combined sitting like at 16mill..that's not a lot for such a big long running series with so many games, some of them didnt even break 2.5 mill. Metroid was considered Niche until Prime..which only gave a it a small boost in sales and a good deal of fanfare. Go look and be quiet. And I never said Returnal was a AAA game..its certainly not a "low profile " game..you are not comprehending..big seller(sales)and recognition(people know about it, good media coverage. Like Returnal)and low profile(not really a game people talk about..dont really make any impact)are 3 different things. So system seller and low profile games are different things..a game does not have to be a system seller to qualify as popular, good and sales successful...
You still don't understand successful is one thing and a system seller is another thing. Forza is a system seller. Ori isn't. Does it make it a bad game, no. It's good, but it's not a system seller. That simple.
Between Gamepass “eating” some potential sales and Nintendo not releasing digital numbers, I wonder how important these numbers truly are anymore, at least as far as rankings or bragging rights go.
You guys keep saying "Possibly" sell more..as in not sure..but we are sure that even with game pass it place 4th after some of the highest selling games in history. Since we want to play possibilites...what if it sold 4mill, what if 6 million would never have bought it, but download and played it because of gamepass? Well now you have 6 million people who would not have bought the game paying MS for gamepass and keeping the game flourishing.
I'm surprised Forza sold that well. My copy from Amazon came with a damaged case so I returned it and ended up just renewing my gamepass with a Black Friday deal.
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Pretty impressive being it is on gamepass day one and still sell as well as it has.
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