PS5 Exploit: Fail0verflow show decrypted PS5 firmware files and PS5 keys

What a day for the PS5 scene! After TheFloW shared what appears to be a PS5 Kernel Exploit on the latest PS5 firmware, the Fail0verflow hacking group came back from the dead with a screenshot of what appears to be a fully decrypted file, part of a PS5 Firmware update.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

This is interesting to know

[plmkoh]

Lol TheFloW that's brought back a lot of memories of the good old days with Geohot et al.

[Eamon]

Aha, the Sony v Geohot court battle which basically ended up with him working at FB and then Google. And soon after that the failoverflow lecture which was made Geohot's jailbreak look amateur.

[plmkoh]

Good times and many train wrecks. Those were the days N4G had great comments and the excellent bubble system.

[Mr_cheese]

I miss the bubble system

[343_Guilty_Spark]

The spice must flow!

[Magog]

Pirated games are bad for honest gamers and the industry at large.

[Sieg]

what's worse. Piracy or anti-consumer practices?

[REDGUM]

None, both are!

[Magog]

What anti-consumer practice do you speak of? Please don't say raising game prices because calculated for inflation $70 is cheaper than $60 was when $60 games became the standard.

[Silly gameAr]

Don't give me that shit. If that was the case, nintendo would be the first one to get sniped. They're doing this of spite, like they did last time.

[Darkborn]

Buying a third party publisher, forcing a microphone and camera as well as always online DRM and no game trading. Those were all anti consumer. Whos idea was that? Not playstation. Maybe the $10 price increase was to continue paying their employees through the inflation were in because of bad political policies and the increase in quality game creation. Idk maybe that's good consumer practices.

[Christopher]

Piracy creates anti-consumer practices. It's not the only source of it, but it's one of the main drivers.

Edit: As to the question of "what anti-consumer practices?"

- DRM
- Digital-focused games and content
- MTX/Season Passes
- Annual releases without much change as the cost to innovate is affected by piracy (see tons of Indie games as an example of this)

[babadivad]

Why should you have to choose between evil and evil?

[Eamon]

To be honest, this is a redundant debate that's been waging for decades with 0 effect on the reality. Games are selling better than ever before, and yet there still is piracy.

What's been proven is overwhelming majority of people would rather buy games at affordable prices than go through the trouble of pirating. Just look at the continued success of Steam, GOG and the consoles over several generations. Generally MS and Sony try to keep prices reasonable but 3rd party publishers like Activision always plot to artificially trying to inflate game prices.

[-Hermit-]

@Magog

"Please don't say raising game prices because calculated for inflation $70 is cheaper than $60 was when $60 games became the standard."

What a pathetic excuse. This same company makes millions daily from their own store, and unlike other companies, they bank 100% of the profits from their own games whilst every other company that sells their games on the Playstation store are losing 30% of the profit to Sony.

They are one of the companies that never need to raise the prices of their games, they are making almost double the amount of money any other company is making per sale.

Anybody that defends this is a mug.

[dbcoops]

Neither is worse than the other per say, they are both bad.

[anubusgold]

@Magog Gamer companies are making more money off games that ever, With their dlc, live services, and microtransaction and season pass crap.

[hesido]

I'm more concerned about online cheating. I hope this does not affect multiplayer games.

[Rude-ro]

Depends who you are asking..
The lowest percentage of pirated software in the existence of pc in a single year has been 45% ..just think how astronomical that number is in real world currency?
Why do you think cloud computing, subscriptions etc are the goal?

[Teflon02]

"Christopher17h ago(Edited 17h ago)
Piracy creates anti-consumer practices. It's not the only source of it, but it's one of the main drivers.

Edit: As to the question of "what anti-consumer practices?"

- DRM
- Digital-focused games and content
- MTX/Season Passes
- Annual releases without much change as the cost to innovate is affected by piracy (see tons of Indie games as an example of this)"

-DRM is a direct result of Piracy. That doesn't really count as anticonsumer when it's the consumers pirating that caused this move.
-Digital focused content... really? I'm a fan of physical media. I always buy games I love Physical if it exists. But this is more so a preference over everything. It's just going to the digital age. More and more are buying digital as much as I hate to say and most of my friends barely go in stores anymore for titles. That's not anticonsumer tbh.
-MTX/Season Passes. I'd have gave you this if you said MTX, though it's not necessarily bad. Just the popular ways of implementing it. BUT why I won't agree is season passes. Sure some games have BS and garbage cash grab season passes. But Season passes for alot of games are ultimately great. Especially when the content is actually made later for it. Like Getting Ni No Kuni 2's gets you a good amount of extra to do. As well as the free DLC they give you. Spiderman has a good one. While people cry about it, I think Fighting games have good ones. They benefit the most from them. That stops them from needed to release multiple versions of games and such. There's benefits to season passes when they're implemented right and generally I'm not dumb and can see where they're good. A Hat in Time was fantastic DLC as well
-Last one, tbh I don't even know what you're talking about. This I'd have agreed with as I hate that sports games give things that are free updates as entire new games every year etc. But once you mentioned indies, I became lost

I hate anti consumer practices. But not everything is a anticonsumer practice lol

[Hikoran]

I agree but I saw a great post the other day which I'll butcher now.. but give the player a reason not to pirate the game - people want to give you money for something but they just want to know what they're in for.

[kayoss]

So what you propose?

[Teflon02]

This is cap. People who pirate generally just don't want to pay period. I have a friend who buys games and pirates games. He pirates any game he just doesn't want to buy. Like he'll buy a playstation exclusive, or a PC game for a series he loves. But he'll pirate the game instead if he sees a easy opportunity to. Which is where all the DRM and such come in. If gamers where that honest, half the things in place that are anticonsumer to people wouldn't exist

[annoyedgamer]

Data says otherwise.

[MadLad]

Eh.
I mean, maybe for indie, or smaller AA projects. Almost every AAA experience tries to force you into microtransactions on top of their $60-70 premium. All the while spending as much money marketing the game as actually went into development, while often offering unfinished or lackluster experiences.

You almost have to try before you buy just to know if a game actually lives up to the marketing nowadays.
Even then, we have companies throwing in a whole bunch of anti-consumer practices pre-launch after they already have your money and attention.

I'm not for pirating any modern game, but I don't shed a tear for these multinationals wheb it happens, as theyslowly ruin the industry.

[joestrummer77]

Awesome news, hopefully there might be some some kind of custom firmware in the future.

[annoyedgamer]

This is bad for Sony, there this is bad and wrong and should he condemned.

[-Hermit-]

Oh no, how will the multi billion dollar company cope? /s

99% of people that play on Playstation won't even touch custom firmware. It will hurt them as much as the Nintendo Switch emulation hurts Nintendo.

[Orchard]

They are worth 155bn dollars - they can afford to and should hire (more/better) security engineers.

[Orchard]

@jonny897 Resorting to insults is the sign of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

1. My beloved Microsoft? Where did I mention Microsoft? I play on PS5 and have no XSX. The only Microsoft 'platform' I actively game on is PC.
2. Where did I say bug bounty programs are a bad thing? They are not, and are standard nowadays.

The difference is XSX (and AFAIK XB1) were not hacked, where as Switch, PS4 and now PS5 have been - and seemingly within the first year for the latter.

So while nothing is impenetrable, the amount you invest in security can obviously help.

The good thing is, beyond piracy, this probably won't have any impact on us legit gamers because I'd expect Sony to be able to detect & ban anyone with a custom firmware from PSN so we shouldn't encounter cheaters etc.

[Teflon02]

I hope not. I don't need hackers in my online games.

[NJShadow]

Con - This is about to get really bad for Sony.
Pro - Does this mean we might actually get custom themes, along with the removal of the "Explore" button?

[russo121]

I expect the price to go where it should be, around 69€ in Europe.

[dbcoops]

"Whether they will share how to reproduce this hack, and whether it will be easily doable for people without their hardware skills, is another story."

How is this about to get "really bad" for Sony. Is everyone a skilled hacker and hardware engineer all of a sudden?

[Orchard]

They've since confirmed it is fully software - so no hardware skills / mod chip. So any hack would likely be delivered as a custom firmware you just install from USB, like on the PS3/4.

[NJShadow]

It seems the PSP generation just whizzed right by you, along with the PS3 generation.

[dbcoops]

@NJShadow

Your rude comment aside, neither of those generations "whizzed by" me and neither of them where "really bad" for Sony in terms of large scale console hacking.

[Angyobangyo]

Highly doubt it will "get really bad" for Sony.
The PS4 was exploited years ago, yet piracy remained extremely low. Even the early version of the Switch had unpatchable tegra exploit that to this day lets gamers pirate their games quite easily, yet Nintendo is killing it with the Switch. If this exploit does get released, you probably have to stay on low firmware to retain the cfw missing out on actual fw updates and fixes.. I doubt a majority gamers who spend at least $500 want go through the whole exploit steps risking bricking their systems, then downloading the games through torrents, and finally trying to install them with homebrew apps. Lastly, Sony (as well as Nintendo and MS) have detection systems when you're using pirated games which will result on a console ban from online services.

[Grilla]

I bought that mod for the switch, installed all my games to memory but in the end it wasn’t really worth the trouble. You had to jump through too many hoops to get it to work.

If the switch powered down you had to redo the hack.

[babadivad]

Nice

[Dabigsiebowski]

Yay now we don't have to buy games and on top of that we can use aim bots and wall hacks in all our freebies now haha!! Take that Sony this one is for the consumers!!!! /s

It's always thr legit consumers that actually get burnt by these things. People with jobs and money who come home to escape to find out it doesn't matter because the no lifer has been racking up free kills since noon when he rolled out of bed.

People are retarded

[BlackDoomAx]

What aim bot and wall hack has to do with this?

[Teflon02]

Once a console is exploited, Hackers now have ways to put these tools into online experiences.

[Angyobangyo]

Gamers can already use things Xim Apex to use kb/m on consoles without needing to install exploits.

[Chocoburger]

You can't play online on PS4 with pirated games.
It's fair to assume the same will be the case in regards to future PS5 homebrew / piracy.

So yeah, this is a non-issue.

[fsfsxii]

he's about to get a fat paycheck from sony's program

[DMgHalt]

Is the image in the title an actual decrypted sample or just a random thumbnail from something else?

[Orchard]

It's the 04.03 firmware update from a few weeks ago, decrypted.

[TheColbertinator]

Time for homebrew ✌️

[Themba76]

These hackers are waisting there talent hacking game systems why don’t really test there hacking ability and hack these crypto exchanges like Robinhood or Coinbase or binance or if they really think that they are God hack the federal reserve or imf and really make an impact instead of waisting there talent on trivial things.

[Rebel_Scum]

Not really. Some if not most of these hackers probably already have jobs in I.T.

Also its worth mentioning that working on and finding an exploit in console hardware has been done by legit devs in the past.

Like EA with the Sega Megadrive or Naughty Dog with the original Playstation. Andy Gavin has a great blog detailing how for Crash Bandicoot they hacked the hardware to utilise more memory.

[Teflon02]

Hacking these are already risky if the company responds bad. You definitely don't want to mess with the companies and governments that will retaliate in a bad way

[jjb1981]

It's cool that they have the knowledge to do this kind of stuff. Releasing it to the public just let's the broke MFs run amuk. Broke MFs will at least disagree.

[Faraon]

PS3,PS4,PS5,And hackera Always get want they want low price for fun & gaming 💯

[jjb1981]

You made this account just to say this?