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Xbox: Due to Game Pass, a Japanese chain has stopped selling consoles

aroged.com writes: "Surprising news came from the Rising Sun this morning. Geo, a well-known Japanese retailer chain, stopped selling Xbox consoles in its stores. The fault, apparently, would be Game Pass, since it is no longer necessary to own an Xbox to play the house titles, which would be a major disincentive to purchase."

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XiNatsuDragnel936d ago

Hopefully gamepass helps Xbox here

Sonic-and-Crash936d ago

Japan audience are far more critical in these BS marketing tactics ..MS transformed XSX as a useless gimmick with their rent service strategy that plays everywhere ...

Xbox was already weak in Japan and now goes for sure death

SullysCigar936d ago

I can understand why. MS removed the need for their new consoles to a large degree.

Zeref935d ago (Edited 935d ago )

How is being able to play your games anywhere you want a gimmick? If you love gaming and not brands this is what you should be supporting. Not games tied to a single system.

NeoGamer232935d ago

I don't know how this means certain death in Japan for XB.

If rumors are correct there is about 30 mln subscribers on GamePass. Not sure how you call that a useless gimmick. Microsoft just found a really good model to supply games to its customers. That does not make it a gimmick.

As for gaming only retailers. The writing is on the wall as gamers shift more and more to digital purchasing. In 10 years gaming only retailers are going the same route as literally millions of other retailers have gone. Extinct. Talking about gimmicks. I walked into a Gamestop about 6 months ago. Now, there's a bunch of gimmicks. From the inventory of clutter junk to the buy a game, sell a game mentality. Ever since GamePass I pay less to game on a yearly basis and play more good quality games. Gamestop and other gaming only retailers that sell used games are the gimmick. Their money only flows back to the developer/publisher on the original purchase. There is no way you can say prove that model helps developers/publishers make more or better games. That gaming industry has found a way around stupid gaming only retailers that use the used market to make money. Honestly, the only disappointment I have about those retailers is the number of people that will lose their jobs.

GamerRN935d ago

So does this mean they are getting rid of PS5 since they have PlayStation Now streaming service that makes buying games just as pointless as GamePass makes Xbox?

Teflon02935d ago

Difference is, Sonys focus isn't now. It's just a next service. MS is selling Xbox as a bundle with the service making shelved games useless. They don't sell already and now they have no reason to buy the games since gamepass. So it's pointless in the Japanese market to put the console into the market. Sucks, but it's what happens why you cut out the stores from making profit. They'd be wasting space at that point.

Lore935d ago

@Neogamer232

You may want to do research prior to making such statements. What you called “gimmicks” that gamestop is selling is bringing in “Billions” in revenue. Check their balance sheet.

LordoftheCritics935d ago (Edited 935d ago )

Lol

''The fault, apparently, would be Game Pass, since it is no'' WOW THE ASSUMPTION IS UNREAL.

Game pass provides more value to Xbox than ever before.

And those who cant afford a console/pc can cloud it as well.

This article is utter BS.

RedDevils935d ago

Xbox console is a liability for retailer, if no one buying it as you don't require the Xbox to have access to it games.

wiz7191935d ago

@Sully how did they remove the need ??? I think most of you gamers be confused. Nothing beats having the actual hardware no matter how many choices you have to access Xbox services. Microsoft has to support PC, before PC gamers use to complain they didn’t support them. Now they do suddenly you don’t need a Xbox anymore ??? Some ppl don’t want to hassle with a PC, you can’t just pack up a PC and take it with you everywhere. Lol call gamepass a rent service strategy, do you feel the same about PSnow? Because they’re trying to do the exact same thing with the service. I love the fact regardless what hardware I’m on I can play my games, I can cloud play on my phone when I don’t feel like playing my switch. There’s nothing wrong with giving consumers choices

nirwanda935d ago

Japan for Microsoft at the min is the fastest growing market for them, and the series S is outselling the ps5 on amazon Japan at the min, early this week (for a day or so) it outsold the switch.
It's already outsold the lifetime sales of the Xbox one.

gravedigger935d ago

@NeoGamer

Quote :
"If rumors are correct there is about 30 mln subscribers on GamePass. Not sure how you call that a useless gimmick. Microsoft just found a really good model to supply games to its customers. That does not make it a gimmick."

Those numbers were pure guess by T2 CEO. Otherwise MS would shout out loud if GPU subs are 30 mil.

gravedigger935d ago

@nirwanda

Quote :

"Japan for Microsoft at the min is the fastest growing market for them, and the series S is outselling the ps5 on amazon Japan at the min, early this week (for a day or so) it outsold the switch.
It's already outsold the lifetime sales of the Xbox one."

I don't know what Phil Spencer said to you in Xbox fantasy land, but neither XSS outsold PS5 EVER ( Amazon isn't the only retailer in Japan, LOL) and neither XSeries surpassed Xbone LTD ( not yet). You should check Famitsu sales every week

Hardware Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

Switch – 36,294 (17,133,268)
PlayStation 5 – 22,545 (898,102)
Switch Lite – 10,003 (4,071,757)
PlayStation 5 Digital Edition – 3,936 (174,094)
PlayStation 4 – 1,641 (7,811,573)
Xbox Series S – 1,601 (32,624)
Xbox Series X – 1,042 (62,385)
New 2DS LL (including 2DS) – 588 (1,174,071)
Source: Famitsu Sales: 9/20/21 – 9/26/21 - Gematsu

So, sit down, Xbox fan and take a deep breath

The Wood935d ago

Neo

That 30 million you speak of isn't factual. Spencer himself said what the last recoded numbers were so that kinda debunks that without saying that or namingan actual number. When Microsoft hit milestones they shout from the top of the mountain and say very little when they deem numbers aren't stellar. Spencer basically told the person who inferred that 30M number to chill.

bouzebbal935d ago

A Japanese chain stopped along consoles.. Xbox consoles I can imagine.. Nice spin and lie as always

TheHan935d ago

@Sonic-and-crash You’re exactly what’s wrong with the community. All about Brand instead of being about for the average consumer. Goes for everyone who agrees with you to. Clearly you fans have your heads so far up corporate ass you can’t see straight. Sorry not sorry 🤷🏻‍♂️

ABizzel1935d ago (Edited 935d ago )

@wiz

https://www.google.com/url?...

Just picked it right up and carried it away. If this is true it's bad news for Xbox but makes sense. Asian markets are heavy PC gaming areas, and everything Xbox has can be played on PC, so there's no need to buy the console and thus no need to buy the software, which ends up to the point that there's no need for retailers to carry it.

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JackBNimble935d ago

Not everyone is going to buy a pc for games pass or has a good enough internet connection to stream.
I call bullshit, if this is even close the truth then Japanese players would probably start buying up the xs . This comes off as hyperbole.

wiz7191934d ago

@Ab that’s a laptop bro , I can’t pack up my desktop is what I’m saying I won’t game on a laptop. People tend to keep forgetting that Microsoft has to support PC its their OS, you just want them to abandon them ??? So of course they will bring their exclusives to their platform. There’s always going to be a need for a console, non of my friends who own a Xbox cares about PCs. I just come to terms half of you don’t know what y’all be talking about.

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Jin_Sakai936d ago (Edited 936d ago )

“Geo’s drastic decision may also have been encouraged by the Xbox’s poor success in the Rising Sun.“

“Apparently” because of Game Pass meaning you don’t know for sure. Or it could’ve been due to other reasons listed above. Why single something out if you don’t know the exact reasons?

ApocalypseShadow935d ago (Edited 935d ago )

I'm going to have to agree here with Jin. If you follow this thread as I don't have Twitter, this Ruiz deleted the original post as I couldn't bring it up. Checking more replies, you find a picture that this second hand store posted.
https://mobile.twitter.com/...

He then says he was only sharing news but if you look at the picture, they are stopping from selling PlayStation games, GameCube and Xbox. If someone can read the sign, it would help. If the sign is related to what he said. Or a different thread.

But how does someone come to the conclusion that it was game pass with words like "may also have encouraged" or "apparently." Did he get first hand knowledge? Or just talking out his ass?

As someone who loves facts, we need the truth before even approving this nonsense. I don't care for Microsoft's strategy excluding some good games on the platform, but truth and facts are important.

GamerRN935d ago

They single it out because it paints Xbox in a negative light by taking a strength and trying to show it as a weakness.

It's literally what PlayStation has been doing for years. Using negative marketing tactics by slandering Xbox and making it seem like you are an idiot if you like Xbox. They make it seem uncool and the underdog no matter how much better it is. Honestly it's actually working and it makes me sick...

garos82935d ago

game store owners dont want to sell consoles that are either digital or encourage only digital services purchases going forward . i wouldnt sell series s or playstation digital edition if i had a store

Rhythmattic935d ago (Edited 935d ago )

Xi, But it's not..... Xbox? The change in goal posts? You did mean "Xbox" the console , right?
MS change the definition and you accept it? Good on you.

gravedigger935d ago

Gamepass is available year and a half in Japan. So, what Gamepass did for Xbox in Japan?

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Rocosaurus936d ago

Well, it has made the SX the main gaming platform in my household.

GamerRN935d ago

It's my main also, I still play my PS5 but I'm still playing God of War and then finishing Miles.

Godmars290935d ago

Which mean literal jack in Japan.

Also means what non-mobile titles studios are still making there aren't likely going to be on GP much less the Xbox should they come West.

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Father__Merrin935d ago

How would it affect retailers they simply will stop selling

VenomUK935d ago

When console hardware is supply constrained you can see that for the console manufacturers it could be a real benefit to have people still be able to join their platforms. Of course with a game subscription service a customer might choose to end it after a few months but if they own the hardware they're likely to remain a customer for the whole generation.

Zerobalance935d ago

I just bought Insurgency sandstorm & I have GamePass. What a load of propaganda. Rubbish. Choice is great.

jznrpg935d ago (Edited 935d ago )

Wow one guy disputing something and stating the opposite makes it wrong ? Crazy world

Teflon02935d ago

Look at all the MS guys on fb and such for Bandai saying scarlet nexus will be on gamepass. They were literally laughing at PS players for buying it lmao.

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dbcoops935d ago

I don't know why anyone would laugh you can either pay once and own it or continuously pay to rent it forever.

DJStotty935d ago (Edited 935d ago )

@dbcoops

"I don't know why anyone would laugh you can either pay once and own it or continuously pay to rent it forever."

I can buy it through the gamepass sub at a reduced price, and i will own it, not quite sure what you are attempting here? You can still buy games through gamepass, why does everyone think everyone is "renting" the games lmao

I try it, if i do not like it, it has not cost me a penny, if i like it, i buy it, all at a 15% reduction off rrp through the gamepass service, works great for me and millions of others.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7222h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18816h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus232h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10111h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos11h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Razer Kishi Ultra Review - Remote Play and Mobile Gaming Goes XL

PSLS writes: I have traveled across the country using the Razer Kishi Ultra in airports and hotels for both PlayStation Remote Play and mobile gaming in general, and I am thoroughly impressed.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 8h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken18h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 4h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 3h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 4h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 3h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 2h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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