'Abandoned' creator Hasan Kahraman says claims that Blue Box Game Studios are "scammers" are affecting him and the studio.
This isn’t fun or interesting anymore.
Yea but isn't it the media and people speculating that has blown all of this out of proportion? They haven't really sold anything to anyone besides what seems to be a failed early access game which you can't buy into anymore. All this bitching and moaning are coming from the same people who started to rumours of SH. Think it's safe to assume now that this wasn't their intentions cause a reveal wouldn't take this long
I would normally agree but in this case they have only themselves to blame if it isn't silent hill or MGS or kojima related. Having said that kojima and Sony could have said something by now if it's not them?
I mean saying your horror game title “starts with S and ends with L” is just inviting pressure on yourself. To then afterwards post a photo that looks like Solid Snake… You know what you are doing. Then have the gaming world hyped and release 4 second trailer with no additional information is pretty dumb. They want the attention. I blame Hasan and his team, if they’re even a real studio. They deserve no sympathy.
@EvertonFC Thing is even Yoshida was kind of promoting this on twitter a few days ago. So something's up.
they could be lying...but they're made a vide and have said on twitter that their project is nothing to do with silent hill. i think they said kojima too.
No it's not the peoples fault for being kept in the dark and making their own assumptions of what it could be. The studio knew what they were doing. Instead of coming out and laying it all on the ground about what the game is, they rode the unworthy hype train. Now they're paying for it.
Thats theire own fault and of those supposedly insinders and youtube click seekers .
It's not fun because everyone thought this was Metal Gear Solid or Silent Hill when the developers said it wasn't. But they did do this to themselves though. It feels like they tried to advertise and market their game for a lot of attention. They definitely did that part right but it's about to backfire on them LOL. An indie studio shouldn't be getting this type of attention like a AAA game
They tweeted their horror game's title "Starts with and S and ends with an L". It's not like they didn't fuel the flame themselves.
@Vanfernal They made a mistake doing that
I keep hearing about Abandoned but I have no clue what it is or about.
No one does.
You know he is right. The internet is a blessing but more often a curse. There are people in commentsections and on YouTube and on Twitter and other channels think they can say anything without thinking what impact that has on people. They must be called for and that sort of people must be banned. Dont come with this bullshit of free speech. Think before you write something. Dont write something when you are mad about it, dont pretend that you have the right to demand things you want. Use your brain, calm down, think about it first before wright something down.Hurting peopleis just a sign of a bad character, nothing more nothing less.
If you don't like something somebody writes, just turn the bloody internet off. It's not up to you what people can and cannot say.
Yeah, i disagree, there are still norms and values when people communicate with each other. Turning of the internet is not the solution. People hiding behind the keyboard and think they can say whatever they want, is just wrong. You can disagree with somebody but calling people names, threaten with voilence ore deadthreaths are way out of line. Its so wrong. Keep it civil, give counter arguments of what you think. Discusion is great but keep it civil. Thats the way people should communicate with eachother. The internet would be a better place.
Damn right brother 👍....I love how liberal minded ppl want to ban every one and everything that they don't like....😂😂 😂
Ummmmmmmmm…. No sorry. They did this to themselves. When people think you are Kojima you should not: a) State that you are making a horror game “that starts with S and ends with L” b) Do cryptic image reveals with characters that look like Solid Snake c) Hype the world up for a “real time trailer” that is 4 seconds Doing those things are incredibly dumb and you are just asking for a HUGE backlash to your project, yourself and your team. If this guy really did these things “unknowingly”, he has a really low IQ. But he didn’t; he knows exactly what he is doing. No sympathy from me.
While I'm not surprised the comment section is just a wave of agrees and disagrees, I will say this. I get Hasan had a plan and he wants to do things his way, but it still isn't clear why he chooses the direction he does. At one point he suggested a marketing plan and an NDA. If it's legitimately nothing and it's seriously so taxing on his life, I don't understand how he can't just release information and end this stuff. Ultimately, speculation occurs because Hasan remains as vague as possible with his project. Instead of trying to solve it or really doing anything we get stuff like this... It's so bad we legitimately had him reply to someone a week or two ago expressing frustration because someone called his eye patched man a stock asset and suggested he wouldn't do an app like this for that. But all this does is invite the negativity on him. Whether Hasan would or would not, he has confirmed he DID for the PlayStation Blog. Whether the app is something bigger or not, what we legitimately got was a five second clip that contained nothing promised (haptic feedback, etc) and three days a technical glitches. Hasan legitimately needs to go back and read the "the boy who cried wolf." There seems to be this sense he deserves the benefit of doubt, without any reflection on why the doubt exists. He squandered that and seems to have no reflection on why he is in this situation, so it just falls on deaf ears.
I agree with you about people posting comments and the way people talk. But these guys need to understand something. They've had 6 failed games in development over the past 5 years. He mentions this other game The Haunting in the article. It's never left the Early Access stage and he wanted to just make it free for everyone because it isn't finished and doesn't play correctly. Fair enough. But rather than keep working on the game they just abandoned it to start working on, ironically enough, Abandoned. That in itself is ridiculous, but what about the people that already paid for The Haunting? Did they get refunds? I honestly don't know and he doesn't say. But as for Abandoned, all of this controversy would be cleared up if they would just come out and say, "Hey everyone, this our own game and Hideo Kojima has nothing to do with it". But they won't do that, because they are getting huge publicity off of it. If this game didn't look like Silent Hills, which I'm 100% sure was on purpose, it wouldn't even be getting a fraction of the attention it is right now. So I feel like that's pretty scummy on their part. They are trying to ride the coat tails of a legendary game developer for their own gain. There's really no other reason why they wouldn't have come out and said Kojima isn't involved by now.
They do have a pinned tweet saying they are not making silent hill and have nothing to do with kojima. So they did all this a long time ago. My thought Is Sony will never allow this to go on so long if it was just an indie game. What indie game no one ever heard of makes a ps5 only app and game? It's all very strange but people really forgot moby dick studios
You must be new to the internet.
If you look blue box history it's shit. They have never completed a project and to try to convince the public that this isn't a scam is laughable. Even if they miraculously do make a complete game, I have no faith that it would ever be worth playing let a lone worth buying. Edit: responded to the wrong comment
They literally struggled to make 4 second trailer mate. 3 delays. For a 4 second trailer. Let that sink in…
Blue Box's track record speaks for itself. Besides, Hasan ain't exactly helping himself with the overly ambiguous teases that implied certain things (Out of focus man with eye patch).
well, things happens and sometime it dont go as planned. but he has a point. It didnt sell anyone anything.
Can this just go away already I'm tired of hearing about it lol. This entire debacle just shows how stupid people are.
There is a really easy solution to this just come out and say what the game actually is and make it clear to everyone that Kojima and Konami are not involved in any way. Then all the attention you're enjoying would go away so I can see why you wouldn't want to do that but don't complain about it. If you want to ride down this road, don't complain when it gets bumpy.
They have a pinned tweet from months ago saying exactly that
ppl cant read.... ppl is so stupid.
And then they tweeted an image with someone looking like Solid Snake. They are playing games with the fans mate. Show the actual game… Give the actual title and their struggles will end. (Along with all the hype) This is a pure case self inflicted hurt. (If it isn’t a scam)
They did that already. The gaming community is full of idiots.
it's his own doing with all the cryptic stuff. I think most people are fed up with them though but I hope it's a least a good game
Tired of hearing about this fake studio.. seriously...
When you are only going to tease information on a game when your track record is already questionable then you are feeding into the user base marketing your game for you. This is completely their own fault. Scam artist is someone that promises one thing and either under delivers or doesn't deliver at all. Which is what we see with their history. You can't steal a chicken and then complain people call you a chicken thief.
Haha love that last line!
"We're here to make games" After the shit they pulled with that reveal trailer being the same bloody 5 second teaser they put on Twitter, feels like they're playing a game rather than making one. How can they not see what they're doing is simply not working? It's not creativlng hype, it's creating hostility and frustration. Seems like they're well in over their head again and this will likely end up being another cancelled product by them.
lol "i cant eat i cant sleep" get a grip man
Lol for an almost completely unknown dev studio with almost no released titles, they sure do know how to get people riled up. It's funny that they say, "How are we scammers" when they run a kickstarter, they cancel it, then a few years later, release it as a mobile title. Check out the history of their studio. Yeah, it's pretty sketchy to say the least. https://www.reddit.com/r/Th...
Hasan's getting a little too obsessed with the Internet comments. Instead of delivering something, we're getting an interview about how his feelings are hurt and justifications for past projects... He's saying his team is uncomfortable and don't want to state publicly that they are working on Abandoned. That sounds more like they're embarrassed more than anything. And if the face behind the project is busy putting out interviews about how he can't eat or sleep due to Internet comments, I would be embarrassed to be involved too.
He brought this on himself with the "S____ ____L" bullshit he pulled.
so let me get this straight they have a questionable track record of not releasing games and than teased up this game as if it were a kojima silent hill spin off of sorts only to backtrack and not release anything pertaining to said game than when called out for having questionable working habits hasan and his studio cant eat or sleep now?
Social media has completely blown this game out of proportion. These guys aren't scammers, they simply are incompetent. Nobody is to blame but the people who hyped this all up and made it into something it never was, even after there was sign after sign after sign that it wasn't anything related to Kojima or Silent Hill. The internet is terrible.
They mislead people with the whole S____ ___L thing. Also the app was a mess just to show off 4 seconds of footage. Also they have a spotty track record if saying their working on title and none of titles were released in the market. Now they're back tracking on the things they originally said.
That’s true but their incompetence was in their consumer interactions. We haven’t even gotten to the game yet lol. They are to blame also. They aren’t scammers they are just trolls it seems lol. Not the fun Kojima kinda troll but the annoying troll. It is the internet’s fault but they didn’t stop it either. Let the hype grow at your own risk. No mans sky, etc. we see it over and over. Im still guessing it’s more than it seems. Maybe not Kojima or Konami but something new and unique. If not what a blunder lol. And there’s enough blame to go around.
“We’re just here to make games that people enjoy,” he added. So do it then, and quit rileing up the community. It blows my mind that people defend this guy, when they have never even released a working game. If this guy was worth defending, then people should be upset with Sony/Kojima/Konami for instigating this entire thing. All they had to do is say they aren't involved, and they could stop this poor man's suffering. Now that he has publically set and missed every single deadline, somehow he's a victim. Just shutup and go away already, unless you have something to show.
Dude, dont get involved or into an arguement with your potential fanbase and customers. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT IN THE SHADOWS unless youre promoting the game. This was a bad idea and a PR blunder. Someones not doing their job. Where was their PR on this one? Its too late now, the public knows but, as a developer as new as this, this was a No-No. Dont lash out at your customers, and if youre now saying "I wasnt lashing out" then now youre ignorant because perception is everything. IF IM READING THIS AN INTERPRETING THE STATEMENT AS LASHING OUT (like a scared dog backed into a corner getting ready to bite) then youd better believe Im not the only one interpreting it that way. Blue Box, youre getting in over your heads, WAY OVER YOUR HEADS. This charade has gone on long enough, get to it, youre digging a hole you might not be able to climb out of, you could be digging your own grave. PR blunder, BIG-TIME! And Sonys not gonna back you once the marketing goes worse, because they dont wanna go down with you, even if it was their own idea, theyll throw you under the bus to protect their name. Hey, thats business.
Gaming community is full of sad weirdo's and nerds with no life outside of gaming.Depressing
Blue box studios is a scam. End of story.
Lmao this studio is going to collapse faster than Afghanistan.
The facts speak for themselves. If they’re incorrect then explain why. If he can’t or won’t explain (which he hasn’t so far) then he can’t argue the fact. You can’t just use the success of others to wrongfully and falsely boost your own. He’s trying to increase interest and essentially what will become pre-orders on manipulated information. …and if your in this industry you should know better than to tease the mental Kojima fan halfwits that can’t tie their own shoelaces without thinking it was a sign from Kojima himself.. Although the more this goes on the more I think it actually is some artistic piece on the state of modern society ha. Prepare for a public announcement that the game has been Abandoned. Game over.
Technically Mr. Kahraman isn't wrong. He, & his "company" said nothing directly related themselves to Silent Hill, MGS, Kojima, whatsoeven. Those are the pure imagination from the PS5 players.
I wouldn’t say pure, you wouldn’t either if you have to use a technicality. Some of the wild connections sure but not all were made out of thin air. Not all of the guesses and coincidences are unreasonable. If you are to the point of being upset if it isn’t what you want then your priorities are f***ed though I agree. That’s imagination land.
There are people who thinks the world revolves around the them. If they dont get what they want, they pout and resort to defaming people for no apparent reasons.
a big chunk of gamers need to take a sedative and think about how hard this stuff actually is to make.
what stuff? You mean video games? Ah news flash 2 guys made a retro FPS in the style of Quake called Dusk that's pretty sick, plus every other indie studio that has a small team that made amazing games. This guy either is incapable of making a game or he's aa scammer trying really hard to build up mystery behind a game no one gives too shits about outside of the ever unlikely possibility of it being linked to Kojima, MGS, or Silent Hill
I still don't know what any of this is about or why people are creaming their panties over it.
Well… judging by your past history it kind of seems like you are, just sayin’
Not scammer just terrible dev
Better question is how are you still Developers.
It's their idea of teasing and it failed, man it up. And if Shuhei Yoshida tease the game meant that it just an indie game since Shu is currently working with Indie devs nowadays and not with bigger studios WWS or first party exclusive anymore that task is in Hermen Hulst hands now.
Even if they come out tomorrow and announce that it IS Silent Hill or MGS, I would just be annoyed at how poorly this whole thing was orchestrated. It would mean that people basically discovered their secret day 1, and they spent months saying “NUH UH” and posting cryptic tweets and vague clues, only to turn around say “Surprise! Gotcha!”. If this what the believers think peak Kojima is… yikes.
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