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The Crucial P5 Plus is a PS5 compatible SSD

Micron Technology has announced and released the Crucial P5 Plus NVMe SSD. With read speeds of up to 6,600MB/s, the Crucial team has confirmed to us that the P5 Plus meets the required specs to be a PS5 compatible SSD. If you’re running the PS5 system software beta, this is another option for expanding your internal storage.

The Crucial P5 Plus comes in 500GB, 1TB and 2TB sizes, and it is one of the cheapest options in this tier of SSD performance. The P5 Plus 1TB costs $179.99 / £157.19, while the 2TB model costs $367.99 / £320.39. However, per Sony’s specifications, you will then need to add an aftermarket heatsink.

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Jin_Sakai1384d ago

So you have to add an aftermarket heat sink? No thanks.

gamer78041383d ago

Yah this isn’t very console like, if I have to basically open up the machine and stick a third party item directly in it better have a heat sink that’s been ps5 tested for many hours under a high load.

Eonjay1383d ago

You have been able to open the PlayStation and put in a third party drive since PS3. This is the easiest its ever been.

gamer78041383d ago

@enojay not the part I’m referring to. Putting a heat sink on you haven’t had to do before.

Eonjay1383d ago

If you are that worried about putting a heatsink on, there are preinstalled options. Also, PC users have been 'beta testing' these drives and heatsinks for months. There are tests for the PS5 showing no notable heat increase after installation. I am glad Sony is requesting this so you guys can see that console gamers aren't idiots and we can actually preform simple tasks. Console doesn't mean inept. Don't buy into the 'I can't figure it out' mentality. You got this @gamer7804. Don't down or belittle yourself just to be part of the wave of ignorance.

gamer78041383d ago

@Eonjay, oh I’ve been building computers for a while and installing heat sink now isn’t a big deal for me, Ill get one once they are tested out in the wild but Sony should partner up to make the experience better for the average consumer is all I’m saying. I can already see some parents buying them without the heat sinks and their kids sticking them in.

OB1Biker1382d ago

Because options are always a bad thing and we all know grandma will buy the latest SSD from Morrison and give as Christmas present to kids who don’t know better.
Think about the children Sony!

gamer78041382d ago

@OB1Biker of course options are a good thing, but if they are going to sell them at stores branded for ps5 they need to make sure only the heat sink versions are available.

duplissi1382d ago

you aren't opening up the machine, you're taking a plate off, and then unscrewing the drive cover...

If you can't handle that...

gamer78041382d ago

@Dupplissi. Read the thread next time

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VenomCarnage891383d ago (Edited 1383d ago )

Heat sinks stick right on and cost like $10. If that's too much for anyone, they deserve to get ripped off by Microsoft's proprietary option

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1383d ago

You sound ridiculous. For starters MS's option is GUARANTEED to work it's simply plug and play. It cost $220 no other purchase needed. With Sony's option you have to many variables that can have people wasting time and money. Sony themselves said these drives are NOT guaranteed to work. Then on top of all this you still need to buy the correct heatsink. All these steps just to HOPE you got the right SSD an to expand storage. At some point MS will offer other options for SSD and when they do it will still be easier than Sony's options. Both companies are ripping us off when it comes to this storage BS but to act like Sony is doing such a wonder job with this is pure blind fanboy bs.

Teflon021383d ago

Where is Sony ripping you off on storage?
Sony doesn't dictate the prices and the speeds warrant these prices as opposed to MS where they got an embarrassingly slow drive for an NVMe

JackBNimble1383d ago

Sony says they aren't liable if something goes wrong . I wonder how long it's going to take before people start complaining they bricked their ps5 and Sony wont fix or replace them.

ocelot071383d ago

@SEAKxTHExTRUTH

Stop acting like this is some sort of rocket science. Yes we get it Microsoft propiatory memory card is easier to install. Great for xbox series x/s owners you don't have to do to much.

But don't act like PS5 owners have to disassemble their console. Don't act like people can't use google. It's even easier than what the PS4 HDD swap is.

Sony is not ripping anyone off as they are not SELLING any SSD. Sony are being consumer friendly here. They are letting people go and buy 3rd party SSD's. Manufacturers will soon enough try and cost cut each other with ls5 compatible drives.

£159 for a 1TB gen 4 nvme m.2 drive plus £5 for a heatsink is cheaper than Microsoft's memory card and also faster at the same time.

Plus the feature is in beta at the moment. Not everyone can access it. So once everyone gets access to it in a few months am sure Sony will have a detailed list of compatible drives and will keep adding to it.

But please explain to me how Sony is ripping people off here I really want to here your explanation.

uth111382d ago

Not every 2.5" drive fit in the ps4 either. But just like then you can ask on the internet for recommendations or check product reviews.
This is no different

VariantAEC1380d ago

@JackBNimble
Sony isn't liable but changing out the drive is covered under the warranty.
So while Sony isn't responsible for any damage they will repair or replace it if you used a compatible NVMe drive and that resulted in a bricked system so long as it happened within the warranty period. For most of us that will likely happen within our warranty period seeing as how most of us are still awaiting the opportunity to buy the system.

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Nuclearmoon1383d ago

Dont need to add a heatsink. If it needed one it would already come with one. The heatsink specification it only there to show the maximum dimensions of a double sided heatsink so the drive can physically fit inside the console.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1383d ago

So all the tech analysis are wrong about adding a heatsink and you are correct? Lol please anyone who reads Nuclearmoon's post do not listen to him. Get a heatsink...

Teflon021383d ago (Edited 1383d ago )

That's not what they said, they said you don't need one. It's the preference for obvious throttling avoidance. But it's like I was told I need a heatsink for my 970 pro and I actually have had no real issues with it almost 3 years later
That being said, I wouldn't get these new ones without a heatsink. Just makes more sense to be safe.

buffig1382d ago

@Teflon02 Your 970 isn't the same spec. Gen 4 PCI-E runs at much higher temps under load. And tests show that drives without a heatsink in the PS5 run at significantly higher temps, which throttle them and potentially reduce life span. Everybody should either buy one with a heatsink or add an aftermarket one, for the sake of £10, you'd have to be an idiot not to

StoneyYoshi1383d ago

Heatsinks aren't complex in design. Theres plenty of heatsinks that take less than 5 minutes to put on that will perform no different than a pre installed one. Be Quiet is a brand that has great cooling products for computers and they sell one for like 14 bucks.

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masterfox1384d ago

keep them coming!, will be lots of options to choose from when the PS5 internal expansion enables, is going to be awesome! not to mention the prices will go down as well :D

ocelot071383d ago

Exactly yet people are stupid to realise this. Some people on here even think Sony is out to rip people off over this lol. Guarantee a year from now. There will be a whole host of compatible drives for the ps5 and the prices will have come down.

Doge1383d ago

Crucial and Sabrent are usually the more cheaper options to go with. Glad to hear there’s support for it.

gold_drake1383d ago

id rather not mess with heatsinks and the like. not all of us are tech savy and can actually do that correctly.

Eonjay1383d ago

It only takes 30 seconds. You can do it. There are dozens of videos showing you how to do it. 30 seconds bro. You can't mess it up. Its easier and faster than setting up PSVR.

ocelot071383d ago

You don't have to be tech savvy to install a heatsink. Depending what you get a basic one is just a strip of metal that has a heat transfer pad stuck to it. Simply just take the backing tape of and attach to the drive.

Sayai jin1383d ago

Not sure why people don't understand why people would be hesitant to open up and install something in their $400 to $500 device. I will obviously do it immediately as it looks super easy and I build cusrom rigs, but that's me. I am not the average consumer. Not to mention parents, uncles, aunts, grandparents that brought or will buy a PS5 for their family members.

An approved device list will be good, bit some people will still try to find a cheaper way with unapproved ssds.

I like having options, but I feel many will look at an upgrade and see...

1. I have to open up the PS5.

2. I have to find a compatible SSD. Not to mention insuring that iy has a heatsink.

3. PSony doesn't gaurantee they will work (which is understsndable IMO).

I know there will be videos of the process with recommendations, but there are always videos on how to do simple upgrades. Not everyone will want to risk it.

gold_drake1383d ago (Edited 1383d ago )

exactly.
just because there are video tutorials, doesnt mean that ill do it correctly the first time, and id rather not do something that will break my console.

atleast one person gets it ha.

buffig1382d ago

Look for compatible drive, open case, plug in drive, done. I installed mine tonight and it couldn't have been more simple

one2thr1383d ago

If you can put a screen protector on your phone with little to no air bubbles, then the process of adding a heatsink to a NVMe SSD should be a non-issue for you.

gold_drake1383d ago (Edited 1383d ago )

i feel like one is not like the other. lol.
i personally dont want to mess with it, im not sure why people dont seem to get that.
y'all seem to know what you're doing, i dont. so go ahead, do your thing, im not gonna do it.

Sayai jin1382d ago

Not even close to being the same . Also, if there is an issue. the end result for one is that simply need to get another screen protector....your pjone still works. While the end result for the other, could mean it wont work, overheat and cause damage, etc.

one2thr1382d ago (Edited 1382d ago )

How hard do you both think, you have to apply a thermal pad and place a heat sink on top of it?

I'm a big guy myself, but to think anyone can mess this up, in this day and age with complicated steps of applying a screen protector to your $1000 Android or Apple phone.

Especially they curved tempered glass protectors, and maybe the traditional vinyl type as well.

For the protectors I've used-

You gotta use a moist towelette,

Then a dry towelette,

Then use a semi sticky dust remover

Then apply the protector without leaving bubbles

And some protectors have compatibility issues with screen embedded finger print scanners.

Whereas with a MVMe Heatsink-

Lay the SSD down

Then place a semi sticky thermal pad on it, top and/or bottom

Place the heatsink on the top of and/or bottom thermal pad

Secure the heatsink to the SSD with provided fasteners

Now place it the complete SSD with heat sink in the m.2 slot

There will also be compatibility issues seeing that not all drivers will be supported.

But both task can literally be easily done with the same exact level of comprehension of the other task.

This isn't as complex as its being made out to be.

gold_drake1382d ago

again, if you think its easy, do it.

i dont think its easy, i waited way too long for my ps5 and i wont mess with it just for an ssd, that is not properly optimised for it and needs extra steps taken care off that involves doing something to the console itself.

and its not the same thing as putting screen protection on a smartphone.

and i too have big man hands and this has nothing to do in what day an age we live in, cause chances are that the majority of ppl dont know what they're doing with the insides of a console or a pc.
you know it? brilliant mate. glad you do.

Sayai jin1381d ago

I don't find it difficult myself. I build gaming rigs...now it is just plug and play. Did it back inthe day too.

It boils down to many people do not feel comfortable opening up electronics.

Answr this, if you kess up on installing a phoned case, what is the worse outcome?

Same. What of someonr installs an ssd in their PS5 incorrectly. Not to mention whether or not it is compatible, has a heatsink, etc. What icouls be the outcome?

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duplissi1382d ago

except it's about as hard as putting a case on a phone... if you've done that before then you have the skills to do this. People just get way to anxious about tech. this has nothing to do with being techy at all.

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TorpeAlex1383d ago

If it doesn’t come with a heat sink then it does *not* meet the requirements! That’s like saying that a car missing a tire is legal to drive. Don’t publish irresponsible titles like these, people are going to overheat their $700+ investments.

BrainSyphoned1383d ago

"The subwoofers in my trunk will overheat my engine."

Sayai jin1383d ago

@Brain, that anology is not accurate at all. Now if you said the high output alternstor or large amp may cause car problems...

chronoforce1383d ago

Your console will overheat because your SSD has no heat sink?

elazz1383d ago

There are pcie 4.0 SSD's for which the difference of a heatsink isn't big. A 980 pro comes without and works even under stress fine. Nothing will burn up. It is just advised and I would also advise to do that but nothing will break.

Teflon021383d ago

Relax my NVMe SSD in my PC had no heatsink and loads games fast without much issue (not ps5 fast of course, but fast

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Alex Hutchinson on Why Google Stadia Failed and What Cloud Gaming Needs to Succeed

Alex Hutchinson talks about Google Stadia, how Xbox compares, and what cloud gaming needs to move forward.

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Goodguy012d ago

Cloud gaming still has too many flaws. Fast stable internet, extra costs/subscription services, not ideal for mobile data and why play over cloud via wifi when you have a console/pc that has no input delay and other issues, why buy a game on a cloud service (will always need online even if it's a single player game) when you can actually own it on console/pc...at the same price. Cloud gaming should only ever stay as an option to gaming and playing your games that you already own. Never as the only option.

Tacoboto1d 7h ago

I disagree, in the sense that the flaws are and have been these same known quantities for some time. You know you need fast and stable internet for the best experience. You know it isn't just free beyond Remote Play. Ownership - you know what ecosystem you're in.

Cloud Gaming is awesome when it's there as the most viable option at the time and works. For me, it was like this morning on my laptop playing Pentiment waiting for my car service to finish. For others it's to quick demo a new game before thinking of hard drive space. Maybe Mac users with gigabit internet want to play GeForce Now and buy a game off Steam only to play it that way.

rayford1516h ago

Buddy said whole lot of nothing

isarai1d 22h ago

As long as latency exists, cloud gaming will never thrive no matter how much they advertise that there's low latency or no latency that always ends up being a load of crap

Terry_B1d 14h ago

I will never support cloud gaming.

darthv721d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I quite enjoy cloud streaming now. I find it the quickest way to testing if a game is worth committing download time or even $ to buy it. And using dedicated devices like the portal and gcloud makes it all the better.

But like Goodguy says... it's an option, and not the only one. If people understand that, they may start to appreciate this convenience.

lex-10201d 12h ago

I think Xbox is doing Cloud Streaming right, even if I think its only because they're doing hardware wrong.

By enabling xCloud on The Xbox One and Series S they enable players to buy the cheaper console but play games in better resolutions through xCould.

Take the recent Oblivion release for instance. If you play it locally on a Series S it's rendered at 630P and upscaled using FSR to 1260P with a 30FPS cap.

But if you play it on xCloud on the Series S, it's at 1080P native 60 FPS.

So you can get better performance using xCloud then playing local (on the Series S and Xbox One).

CrimsonWing691d 14h ago

It shouldn’t have required a subscription service. Like do the Steam model and just take the % on software sales or have a sub tier where you pay monthly or annually and get perks.

I’m not opposed to the idea of being able to stream games in the highest quality, but Stadia was so poorly handled it turned into a massive sh*t show.

lex-10201d 12h ago

"It shouldn’t have required a subscription service."

It didn't

"Like do the Steam model and just take the % on software sales or have a sub tier where you pay monthly or annually and get perks."

That's literally what it was. Stadia pro gave 2 free games a month (similar to PS+), 4K visuals, and 5.1 Surround Sound. But if you didn't want to pay you could simply buy the games and play them in 1080P. The core service was free.

But google massively screwed up the marketing which led to people thinking it needed a sub to use.

Eonjay20h ago

Google Stadia failed largely in part because of the massive campaign Microsoft launch against it. It didn't have the massive support of PlayStation, Nintendo, or even Apple to withstand the negativity campaign Microsoft launch against it.

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Valve Makes Up for Steam Deck Repair Delay by Gifting Free Game

Valve gave a user Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 for free as compensation for the long wait during their Steam Deck repair.

UltimateOwnage1d 22h ago

I had a similar experience when I initially pre-ordered my Deck. There was an issue during shipping and they offered me a customer service perk for the hassle and let me pick any game on Steam. It was super nice of them. I got a copy of Rime.

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Sony Aims To Sell 15 Million PS5 Units This Year, but Is Shifting Focus to Monthly Active Users

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki and CFO Lin Tao talked about the state of the PlayStation business and the strategy and targets going forward, including how they're responding to the tariffs.

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1Victor4d ago

I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv724d ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv724d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

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S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. The series X with 2TB storage and much weaker, is… more expensive! So yeah, Im pointing out that fact.

Also, the PRO does not require a stand.

Ps: regular series 2TB is $749 (where did u get 729?)

darthv723d ago

Its right here on the official XB site: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Okay, so no stand for the Pro, but you might still want the optical drive. So $779.98 vs $729.99. A properly outfitted Pro is still more $$ than a 2tb X.

S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Do I need to mention that the series x is not nearly as powerful as the PS5 PRO?

And no, the PS5 PRO runs just fine without a drive, and people don’t have to buy the drive right away, assuming they want it.

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drivxr4d ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation4d ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde4d ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

Z5013d ago

Because the PS4 also has users and not necessarily sales

Obscure_Observer1d 23h ago

"I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU."

Because they´d finally realized that MS wasn´t wrong after all.

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