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The Steam Deck is Going to Crush the Switch. Fight me.

The newly announced Steam Stream Deck is going to destroy the Switch, especially after the disappointing Switch OLED announcement. Here's why.

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thesoftware7301381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

your a lunatic.

Destroy it how?

How well will this sell in japan, do you know if the Steam Deck will have issues? I can tell you one thing, if people start using this thing a lot and not just for gaming it can crash, get a virus ect. When a PC crashes it can be a real headache that most casuals will not know how to solve.

It's not even out.

Nintendo is on its way to the elite 100mil mark, its to late to destroy it.

zahdab1381d ago

His a lunatic? what about mine :o ?!
Though yea with his logic PC should have destroyed consoles ages ago ...

bouzebbal1381d ago

Just because it looks the same doesn’t mean it will compete against it.. the gameplay experience switch provides is very different thanks to its software..

ABizzel11381d ago

Sales, absolutely not.

"If it was a competition", then yes it does in about every other category.

Switch has been out for over 4 years, it's done wha tit needs to do, and has sold so well it's not getting "crushed" by anything. Now if we're talking Switch 2 then that's another story, and honestly if Switch 2 comes out in 2022, then I still think Steam Deck will have better hardware, features, services, etc... simply because Nintendo doesn't want to cross the $349 "console" price point as it has worked for them, and Nintendo also doesn't want to sell their hardware at a loss.

Ju1381d ago

Not sure if this is a valid argument. PC gaming is alive and kicking. I like the idea the SteamDeck brings to the table. I am curious what it will do for linux as a gaming platform, tbh. With Stadia (also linux based) and other (streaming?) platforms spreading to linux, this might have a big impact.

It will certainly have an impact on the Switch. Right now there is no mobile competition. But if I would have a choice, I'd rather take my steam games on the go, tbh. And have a bit of a beefier platform. I rather think this will sell in the millions. If it does, it will have an impact not only on the Switch but also on PC (and Linux) gaming. Even though I believe a lot of people will switch SteamOS with Windows - but it will all depend how well Valve can support SteamOS out of the box (that is, with a games library and easy of use). BigPicture is useless (IMO) and the desktop Steam UI only works well with a keyboard/mouse (but a touch might probably not have any issues with it).

I am also curious how this integrates with non steam games (Ubi launcher, Epic, EA).

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Sonic-and-Crash1381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

No mario , No Zelda , No Monster Hunter , No Splatoon (games that are coming elite gaming artisans ..not like the bethesda and ubisoft mediocrities) =Steam Dek is a dead horse that depends on Playstation PC ports .......

it is the hard truth

Atom6661381d ago

Premise of the article is dumb, but your comment forgets that this thing is going to be wide open. I immediately see it as an emulation work horse.

Yuzu probably will struggle, and Cemu still needs work, but everything from Dolphin on back will likely run flawlessly.

So it's going to ultimately have more Nintendo games than the Switch playable on it. Currently Vita has the crown for best portable emulation device imo. I can see Steam Deck replacing that quickly.

Plus it'll be capable of running 3rd party titles that simply can't run on the switch.

The "hard truth" is that you're likely going to have a handheld that can house your entire Steam library, 1000's games from PS1, PS2, GCN, Dreamcast, etc., probably PC Gamepass, and then those Playstation PC ports.

It won't overtake Switch of course, but there's a lot of positives about this thing.

Michiel19891381d ago

@sonic so steamdeck will rely on 2 games then? HZD and Days Gone? not on the thousands of steam games that are allready out there?

-Hermit-1381d ago

Monster Hunter is on Steam, so that immediately shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

Mario and Zelda are huge, but I simply don't care. It's very hard to feel like I am missing out on 2 series when I literally have thousands of other games to choose from. Mario and Zelda are not the be all end all of gaming, I don't care enough about either of them to buy a whole system for them.

Splatoon........seriously? That would be on Humble Bundle monthly six weeks after release if that was on PC. It's exclusivity to Nintendo makes it seem better than it really is.

"Steam Dek is a dead horse that depends on Playstation PC ports"

Careful, your fanboy is showing.

refocusedman1381d ago

Other than Marion and zekda no one cares. Monster hunter is not a Nintendo exclusive and splatoon....... really???? At least mention metroid.

VersusDMC1381d ago

Monster hunter world and Stories 2 are on PC. And Rise is coming to PC as well. All of those will be playable on the Steam Deck and look better. Let's see how much japan finds that appealing...

RaiderNation1381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

Hahahaha!! You act like emulators don't exist. There are PC Switch emulators right now that run Switch games better than the actual Switch does. Plus I can play virtually every single NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube game via emulation and they all look and run better and I don't have to have a stupid subscription to play them.

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FanboysKiller1381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

MS've brainwashed its consumers to bother about the least common issues and take it into account, that's called feel of insecurity, buying a 1000 plus $ piece of tech in 2021 with all its tech advancements while still taking the least common issues into account, jeez! , normal humans can't operate at this level of insecurity.

Flawlessmic1381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

Destroy the switch?

Very unlikely, steam is not nintendo and while yes it has a large user base, it doesnt have half the recognition of nintendo.

Your average gamer who plays consoles would barely know what steam is, such as a lot of my freinds and family.

I honestly dont beleive this will go gang busters as i pretty much buy any consoles or hand helds that have come out in the last 17 years and i cant say i want this or will buy it anytime soon.

Maybe if the resolution was higher it would be a lot more enticing to me. Before anyone comes back with the switch resolution, its different as nintendo games have great art direction which softens the blow of average graphics.

Playing top tier games that i know look way better elsewhere is not that enticing, espcially as i highly doubt that battery is gonna last very long so the portability of it loses its shine.

I get there will be people who will want it, but this aint getting close to switch numbers.

TheCaptainKuchiki1381d ago

Yeah I do believe that the vast majority of the Switch target demographics doesn't know what Steam is. Unlike the majority of PS5 and Xbox gamers who know it.

gold_drake1381d ago

naah, only frequent gamers know about steam.
casuals dont. or maybe they do and stay way from it cause pc gaming aint for everyone.

EarlyGamegg1381d ago

its an opinion piece. You share your opinion, which is fine. It has nothin to do with being lunatic or something else. So calm down

PrinceAli1381d ago

Loool... you're simply being challenged on your take because its genuinely a garbage take! Like you'd genuinely have to be a bonehead to think this system is going to destroy the Switch.. The Switch is sooo appealing to everybody and this machine is appealing to few (in comparison).. The people who want a handheld experience aren't the same crowd as the usual gamer and the Deck will suffer as a result of it. I predict this machine will sell its early stock then disappear into nothingness, just a cool alternative but with no real staying power.

Neonridr1381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

you said "fight me" in your title, obviously accepting people to give rebuttals.

It's a niche product aimed at a select group. It will not destroy anything.

I have one on preorder because I love all technology, but until it can give me 1st party Nintendo titles, it'll always be third fiddle (behind my PS5 / Switch).

EarlyGamegg1381d ago

you are right. I enjoy all of you guys sharing your opinion with me. Still, i am not calling other people lunatic or something. Thats it. Fight me with arguments rather than calling me things ;) But it is all cool

Master of Unlocking1381d ago

It does have the whole Steam catalog behind it though... Something Switch owners will only ever be able to dream of. Playing GTA V or Red Dead Redemption 2 on a portable system is nothing to scoff at, I think.

Neonridr1381d ago

@Master - for sure, it has it's appeal. I have a gaming PC, so I don't know how much use I will get out of it though.

thesoftware7301381d ago

You said it will "Crush" the Switch and then say "fight me"

Then say "hey its an opinion, calm down"

You really are looney.

Angyobangyo1381d ago

Your title is inviting confrontation. Your opinions is just as valid as those who reply to you. Take your lumps.

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Levii_921381d ago

I hope it does so Nintendo can wake up. Switch doesn't deserve it's massive success IMO.

Darkborn1381d ago

I agree. I havnt turned mine on it Iike a year. It's a really cool console and the concept is amazing, but it needs a revision with higher specs.

Levii_921381d ago

It needs games !! And yes i agree with the rest. I’m seriously thinking of selling it. I would rather have an XSX next to my Ps5 at this point.

ABizzel11381d ago (Edited 1381d ago )

I wouldn't even say it's the Switch, the hardware was mid-range even at the time of release (NVIDIA had already finished Tegra X2, and announced Xavier) so it was always going to get left behind eventually.

It's Nintendo that needs a revision, they're okay with doing just enough to get by and appease their fans, and doing even less to evolve their business to fit a better balance between their target audience (child / casual gamers), and the gamers who grew up with them.

No one is asking Nintendo for a $499 console that beats or even rivals PS5 and Series X. People would be okay with Series S performance levels that even has nips and tucks here and there to ensure they get their Day 1 profit, instead Nintendo has been stuck at PS360 performance levels and less for the last 16 years, and charging up to $350 for it.

RickRoland1381d ago

The steam deck will hang out with Stadia in the middle of nowhere. Fight me.

MadLad1381d ago

Highly doubtful.
There's a lot of buzz around this and, unlike stadia, the Deck has the entire Steam catalog to play off of, and they're also not trying to charge you full retail to stream old games.

Though I'm assuming you may be taking the piss due to the OPs cringy straightforwardness.

John_McClane1381d ago

I think the Steam deck is a very interesting proposition, I don't see much in way of negatives so far.

RickRoland1381d ago

I think the steam deck is a fun little device however I also then think about the fact that a majority of games on steam I would prefer to play with a keyboard/mouse and that changes the entire thing.

CBaoth1380d ago

Steam deck will be as popular as Steam machines. This is due to Valve NOT learning from that previous fiasco, not the device itself

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Oblivion Remastered Soars to the Top of the Previous Week’s Most Played Games on Steam Deck

The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion Remastered rose to the very top of the Steam Deck Most Played Games list. Have you tried it yet?

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"We have to admit, there is something extremely nostalgic about playing Oblivion at 30 FPS, with mild stuttering outdoors. And, even though it doesn’t run perfectly, it’s still so much fun. This could be one of the games that helps grown-ups find their way back to gaming."

I would assume most grown-ups don't get excited about products that don't work properly. I would also assume that most grown-ups coming back to gaming don't want to spend the limited time they have modding a broken game to get it to run properly on the Steam Deck.

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dona545mi19m ago

it’s still so much fun. This could be one of the games that helps grown-ups find their way back to gaming.

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Steam Deck Community Is Appalled That The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion Remastered Is Verified

The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion Remastered just dropped, and it's Steam Deck Verified! Well, the users aren't satisfied with its performance.

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Inverno5d ago

People need to understand that the reason it's verified is cause it runs on proton. If anyone actually bought this thinking that an U5 game was going to run smoothly on hardware too weak for it then idk what to tell ya… well I do know what to tell ya but it isn't something nice.

Eonjay5d ago

It wouldn't put it on a consumer to know that Verified means 'it boots up'. Perhaps they should be more upffront on the product page to better mangage expectations.

Inverno5d ago

Maybe, but I've played games on my Deck that say it's verified but run like shite. If I can come to the conclusion that hardware limitations is something that will effect a games performance then so can everyone else. People don't need to be spoon fed, they need to use some common sense.

JEECE5d ago

That's why the real argument here is a broader one that the criteria for "verified" should be changed to better factor in performance. The steam deck site uses this general explanation for verified games: "The game works great on Steam Deck, right out of the box." Given this description, the criteria to meet "Verified" status should factor in performance. So no, it isn't that people should expect U5 games to run well on Steam Deck. It's that U5 games shouldn't meet the criteria for "Verified."

Tacoboto5d ago

It's not like Valve produces a more powerful unit themselves that can run this game in an acceptable way (if reports are as bad as the headline suggests).

Deck Verified should mean and imply that it will not just open but run in that acceptable way on the one hardware they make where that label is of any relevance. And for future hardware that is more powerful, or new OEMs, that label will mean that the game not only runs, but will run better than the baseline.

FPS_D3TH5d ago

How is it the consumers fault for not looking deeper into this sort of technicality. This is still misleading the consumer.

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Profchaos5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

There seems to be a misconception about what the deck is capably of.

Not sure what people expect its a portable PC did people expect it to run every new PC game for the next decade. It's not a bespoke console where Devs will target that SKU and optimise for it specifically the thing about pc gaming is that eventually you'll be forced to upgrade or be left behind.

The steam deck hardware was fantastic for running last gen games but modern games are now starting to push into a new level of requirements (finally!!!).

I think the verification system for the deck does need an overhaul though as it's not the first game to be approved which clearly shouldn't

CrashMania5d ago

Yeah exactly, it's a PS4ish level device, dunno what people expect tbh.

anast5d ago

It's not running PS4 games, not even close.

BlueDaBaDee5d ago

@anast Pretty sure this was a PS4 game, and it's running it. Better than the PS4 even. https://youtu.be/hb9JeNYfXI...

PanicMechanic5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@Anast

"It's not running PS4 games, not even close"

Stop being a dumbass. I've played and finished spiderman remastered, miles morales and Days Gone at a near perfect 40fps on the steam deck.

Cyberpunk 2077 also runs great on the steam deck. In fact, it's a better experience on SD than on ps4

Shiore2u5d ago

Anast has been on a roll lately with the dumb comments. More so than usual. Some event must have transpired recently to cause him to overcompensate so much.

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anast5d ago

I already said this on an article trying to sell it for the Steam Deck.

PanicMechanic5d ago

If you’re a steam deck owner, you would know the ProtonDB rating (platinum, gold, silver, bronze) is the accurate measure of performance on the SD. If something is verified, you would know that doesn’t mean stable 30fps or 60fps is guaranteed.

A savvy SD owner will download and make use of the decky plugin in steamOS. But you have to own a steam deck in the first place to understand this

SegaSaturn6695d ago

Baldur's Gate 3, FF7Remake come to mind as well. I love the device but it struggles games from the modern age.

dazzysima5d ago

Verified should mean that it runs on Proton and doesn’t dip below 30fps at any point.

But that would mean a huge drop in sales so no dice…

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Minecraft splitscreen mod comes to Steam Deck and it might be possible in other games too

Playing Minecraft splitscreen on the Steam Deck is possible now, thanks to this script that automates everything for you.

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