Alex writes: "In the end the Steam Deck will hurt Sony and Microsoft more, as the hardcore gamer PS5 and Xbox market is filled with both hardcore gamers and hybrid-PC gamers who have been yearning their who lives to take their gaming on the go."
I suspect that the people who are dishing out money for a portable steam player are also the people who already own the other three consoles along with a high end PC.
I own a high end PC and I for sure won't be dishing out for this. Why would I spend $500 (CDN) so I can play the same games I can play on my PC at lower resolutions / lower framerates. This isn't a situation where I don't have the TV available to me so I can play on my Switch in handheld mode. It's my PC, nobody uses it but me. I guess I could play in bed or downstairs, but I would literally be forcing myself to do that so I don't feel like I wasted $500. It's cool and it's what the Switch successor should be, no doubt. But it's still a niche product at the end of the day. The top unit costs more than a PS5 up here in Canada.
https://i.postimg.cc/kGzSt8... https://i.postimg.cc/nzNkwF... I'm glad the steam deck will be available for all the people that have been begging for a switch pro for years and have a better choice to play a lot of portable games on a better handheld instead of shoddy switch ports normally having low texture and horrible frame rate. The switches library consists of over 90 percent port of old games anyway so with the steam deck a lot of gamers will be able to play thousands more games available on steam and current gen games coming out that will never be on the switch. The steam deck is such a better deal than the switch which has expensive joycons that will no doubt fail so either gamers will have to buy an expensive pro controller or more joycons which will no doubt have drift. Majority of nes fans with a switch should definitely want to buy a steam deck because it's so much better than the switch and is the answer to their prayers they've been begging Nintendo for with a switch pro. I can already see some people lying and making excuses why steam deck isn't a good deal but we all know what sort they are. I can see a 1080p oled steam deck coming out within the next year or 2 depending on the success of 1st iteration
@SilverHawk - Valve had issues with the Index controllers suffering drift, so don't count your chickens. If I didn't own a PC I could see the appeal, why the heck would I spend this much money on a device when I have a better one in every regard (minus the portability). It's not like it'll play different games than my PC. I own my Switch for the Nintendo games I can't get anywhere else. That's it.
@Neonridr Every controller from Xbox to Playstation to Nintendo to Valve has had drift issues. They are all using the exact same Alps sensor.
It's not going to take away Switch players because they are married to Nintendo no matter what they do and the majority of them won't take advantage of the PC functionality. I can see it attracting the PS Vita crowd though because they would love playing any of the PS exclusives that will eventually get released on PC and they love to hack handhelds and this is perfect for installing other software.
You are missing bigger point. This is an open platform device with mouse and keyboard something console lack. So what device can run all that on the go?
I dont own a high end PC. I gave up PC gaming years ago (last game i played was half life 2). Now this is my kind of device. it is powerful enough to play what is currently on steam and it is cheaper than me buying all the parts to build a gaming pc. Plus it is small. I dont plan to stop supporting ps5 and series x but this could get me back into pc gaming that i have been missing out on for so long.
I have a high end PC too (finally) but I just bought it. Its the tech that interested me, especially Linux which I game on.
@annoyedgamer - yeah I ended up putting down a preorder. I'm intrigued. I can always cancel down the road.
Or they own a 600 dollar gaming laptop that can game with a 1650ti like i bought 2 years ago. Its good for 1080P 90 fps gaming so its good when im on a trip for work and need to game in my hotel room.
I’ve got basically the same thing, which is why I can’t see myself getting this product.
On a positive note, maybe this Steam Deck will get popular enough to pull demand away from the consoles enough for supply to finally catch up. I really do think it’s a cool idea specifically for on the go and for those having a hard time finding or affording a Gaming Rig.
I think this can be used with Gamepass. That adds another option to think about.
Exactly. It's a portable computer to play games on. They already have the games on Steam, now they can take the games with them.
I fit that demographic, I have all the consoles, and a Gaming PC, so Steam deck is just an companion device to enjoy. This has little to no effect on PS5. There's almost no PlayStation gamer that would be willing to buy Steam deck over getting a PS5. However, it is probably the most ideal companion device to a PS5, as now you have access to almost all of the Steam library and all of the PC GamePass games on the go without buying an Xbox. And if you watch a YouTube video you can also emulate every Nintendo console (including the Switch) for that entire library as well. It would at most have a minor effect on Xbox sales for the reason mentioned in the PS5 part. That being said just like PS5, no fan is going to be buying the Steam deck over a Series X. That being said it's a great companion device to anyone wanting to take their GamePass library on the go. It would at most have a minor effect on Switch / Switch 2 sales for the reason mentioned in the PS5 and Xbox part. While it's technically a direct competitor to Switch, Nintendo already has the branding and market so it will be successful regardless. What it does; however, is it allows people like myself who know how to emulate, and who owns everything already to question if we need a Switch or Switch 2 if we can get our Nintendo fix by simply emulating the older games or playing the fan-made games from Unreal, RPG maker, etc... which are also great. I don't see this as a threat to any of the big 3, moreso, as a niche companion device that has a potential market of over 200 million gamers.
The games I play on PC won't work with this since they're rarely controller supported games (I play those on console). So. while I get its purpose, I don't see myself using such a device.
Not really, if this is a "portable PC" that I can play my cataloge of steam games and new PC games then why would I need to buy me a ps5 or an Xbox Series X. This could basically fill out most of the needs for gamers IF AND ONLY IF Valve does things right and provide good games and a good product.
Hmmm $500 (Canadian) for a handheld that plays Steam games or a PS5 I am going PS5. As a collector I want this thing just for that factor. I don't play Steam games on a handheld I'd rather play them on a gaming pc I built.
I personally am going to pick this up instead of a PS5 but only because I am a PC Gamer who normally only buys the consoles further into their lifecycles when there are loads of good exclusives to play. So I'm not your typical Console buyer I suppose.
Prepare for downvotes.
I'm getting this instead of a PS5, cuz I got gamepass ultimate and you can install Windows 11 on it. This is my Xbox handheld in all but name. Plus you can play the Sony games that are on/coming to PC.
Sure Zeref, you've got it all figured out. Lol What other stories do you have to tell.
@Derek Are you hurt? Just stating facts
@derek lmao nothing he says here is wrong? I’m guessing OP makes a ton of Xbox fanboy posts for you to be on his case but it’s true you can uninstall the steam OS, install windows 11 and just run steam as an app as well as gamepass. This is a handheld pc, not a handheld steam device.
@DEATH DEALER To them I'm an Xbox fanboy cuz I talk positively about Xbox. If I was a fanboy I wouldn't be getting this and play Sony games on it wouldn't I? Cuz that's how dumb fanboys be.
Brilliant idea. I've got GamePass ultimate. Gonna wait till the price drops but yeah great to have the best of 3 world's. PlayStation exclusive's Xboxes GamePass & Steam....in an all in one device. Time for the Ponies to cry.
"you can wipe the pre-installed SteamOS entirely and replace it with Windows. While that will probably hurt your gaming performance (due to this new version of SteamOS being optimized for the Steam Deck's hardware)," People keep talking about installing Windows on it but hopefully people are aware of and prepared for the drawbacks of doing so.
totally the opposite imo, still I think $299 was the sweet spot to reach a lot more audience and I mean alot, also they could it put POs available at major retailers like Best Buy, Walmart, online Amazon, etc, really starting to see a big opportunity lost here, Valve could it take the handheld market by surprise, that 399 starting price tag will limit alot the appeal of this device, for me kinda want one since I know indeed has a Dpad lol and have dozens of Steam games I usually forget I have installed, also I hope it can be plug an external drive somehow, that would be awesome.
It's pretty fairly priced compared to higher end gaming tablets, which is basically what this is. It probably warrants more than that, honestly, but you can kind of look at this like the console model - make little to no profit, sometimes even taking a hit, but subsidizing that loss via game sales.
It's way more powerful than anything else on the market. Like a lot more. 399 is a steal. But 529 is the "real" price. Since you're not gonna be able to install many games on 64gb before you have to buy the slower expandable storage.
Actually there is a slot you can switch out the storage I believe. According to pictures. Idk for certain though
Plug in a 256gb or 512gb or even 1tb micro sd card and boom... you got room to install stuff.
Just buy SD cards and put the games on those. Or a portable HDD.
Yeah everyone seems to be ignoring this. People jumped on PS5 for only having 800Gb, but 64 is enough for a Steam system? No way! Even 256 or 512 isn't really alot of storage. And they charge a premium for those relatively small storage increases.
@uth11 Actually, they're pretty cheap nowadays, you can get 256gb for under 40 dollars, and they're on sale pretty often.
Didn’t they say something similar about the Steam Machines in comparison to PS4 & XO? Guess some journalists just don’t learn This is too expensive to be a threat to any of the hardware manufacturers
everyone 1st thought is switch for a reason. Portable is the selling point so no, it's competition is switch weather you like it or not
I don't see Grannies going into Best Buy at Christmas asking for a steam deck for little Tommy - switch or switch light probably. This is a very niche product.
Because it doesn't exist and those are kids. People need to ask grandma for what they want. They ask for ps and Xbox just fine. The issue is the grown people. It's alot of grown people buying switch and I don't know why anyone is pretending that's not the case lol. Those same people want something stronger than switch. They always keep talking about this and that game on the go and whatnot. Now a system can do it without the big comprise. So yes it's a big issue for switch
Yeah, no. The thing is meant to be a purely portable experience, even if you can hook it up to a monitor/TV. It's the price of a new console, though with the power of the base PS4, which can be had on the cheap nowadays. If you're buying this as a main gaming machine vs a PS5 or Series S/X you're doing yourself a disservice. The only real direct competition to be had would be on the Switch.
I am but for me a portable PC has more value than a console right now. I'll probably end up buying a PS5 later on though so I am not exactly a lost sale.
Have you considered building a PC?
So let's get this straight. If you buy it and buy a ps5 after, what makes this a threat to ps5 if it doesn't stop your sale? It prolongs it like you really have much of an option if you didn't get one yet lol
@annoyedgamer I have had a PC that I have upgraded over the past 10 years, I'm not new to PC Gaming it's just my desktop isn't portable. @Teflon02 Exactly, that's why I clarified that I probably wont be a lost sale.
yeah sure it will.
I totally disagree. There are folks that just don't game on the PC such as myself. Though I'm interested in buying the Deck for playing some games on the go or when I'm at work on break. I will continue doing most of my gaming at home on my 65 inch 4k tv in UHD on my PS5 & I'm quite sure I'm not alone.
I have the same sentiment. Even though I have a capable PC, I'm using it mainly for work. PS5 with large TV is my favorite go-to setup when I just want to sit, relax and play some blockbusters.
This article is garbage. Assumptions based on feelings, zero data to back it up. Steam Deck is a steam companion or an entry point for people who are fine with 2Tflop portable and base PS4 performance. It absolutely has nothing on 5x and 6x the power of PS5 and Series X, they are highend gaming&hometheater value propositions. This is a portable for people who use Steam, and there's plenty of them out there. And this is a competitor of Switch. Valve is testing the waters, Gabe himself said it in the interview. If he doesn't know what Steam Deck is good for (as they should not without data and having an MVP out in the markets), then certainly this dualwhateverpixels website guy has zero understanding of the matter.
It's actually only 1.6 Tflops, but the gpu is newer + better cpu + RAM performance should be a bit above ps4.
Thank you for correcting me. I think you are right, with everything else being latest, I'm sure it will go past PS4 fps or is thereabouts.
Give over it won't affect PS5 or Switch. People buy them 2 for the exclusive games. The only console this might affect is Xbox, and even then it will be small. Hardly anyone is going to buy this thing.
Weird, being this is a highly console-centric community, and a lot of people seem really excited for it. And no, it will affect Sony and Switch to a real extent. Switch now has a direct competitor, and Sony has been making more and more push into the PC space, meaning they only benefit from this. If anything, MS benefits, because they are happy to have their gamepass streaming on any platform, are supposedly in talks with Valve on a sort of partnership, and have a number of their exclusives on Steam as is. You're looking at this ass backwards.
If i were microsoft id do a partnership were it could be a win win for both, steam is on a level where its super hard to dethrone, they have even make playing on Linux on a massive number of games and every week new games get better there or are available and im pretty sure many many people would join gamepass trough steam and EA service which xbox gamepass offer with sub is already on steam so thats a step done!
Maybe someday I will be able to play my Steam library on my Xbox, that would be dope!
Yeah, it will affect Xbox... by helping more people buy GP.
Yeah pretty sure Halo infinite on the go and gears 5 on the go with no extra effort is ms dancing. Seeing they care about Gamepass, this is where they want things to go
You cannot simply shrink a PC game down to a handheld form factor & expected it to be playable on a handheld console. The 4 different ego systems of gaming: PC, traditional consoles (PS5/ Xbox), mobile & Nintendo; each has its own unique game design requirement, pricing structure, control scheme, etc. It take a lot of effect & careful changes to successfully port a game between ego systems, like porting a PC game to console.
It has your basic controller buttons, as well as track pads and virtual keyboards.
*ecosystems. Ego is something quite different
its a very niche product
Can you explain why it's niche? Most on this site seem to want one, and it's a console-centric site.
Wanting one and actually buying one is 2 different things. Most PC gamers usually chase the highest level of performance, some will bite with this but not many. A lot of console players don't care or want to game on PC, especially one that is lower than their console, some will bite, but not many. It won be a breakout in Japan. It may do ok in the UK. hence it will be Niche.
@thesoftware This is a handheld. It's not meant to be your main gaming machine. It's so you have decent hardware that can run your games when you're out of the house, or at least away from your setup. Yes, when you play on PC, you typically go for the most performance you can. But that's your main gaming platform. "Console players don't want to game on PC, especially if it's not as strong as their own console" Again, this is a handheld. It's an entirely different piece of tech, meant for an entirely different setting. I owned, and enjoyed, my Gameboy Advance, though I still owned an Xbox and usually played that when I was home. What was the difference? I couldn't lug around my Xbox all day and play it whenever I wanted. As for Japan, handhelds have typically been far more popular there than actual consoles. The only reason that market may not take to this is that Japan are known to shy away from foreign made products, in general. The U.S. and the UK typically buy everything though lol.
I see the doom articles already started. I remember the same happened with Stadia and how Playstation was going to be affected by it.
It really doesn’t.
Lol See alot of people here who are commenting praised the switch OLED edition but attacking this LOL. You nintendo dorks are sad tbh. This system going to sell like hot cakes. Its been top 3 trading all yesterday and its still trending as we speak...
PC gamers are not going to be satisfied with 720p. Neither are PS5 and Xbox X owners.
On a large screen, no, but on a 7 inch screen.......I think people will be fine with it.
I see a handheld I'll be installing windows on and playing GamePass games and xcloud games on, so not sure it hurts Xbox at all. Nintendo is everyone's second system with its low piece point. It's a nice toy, this is a powerful handheld. I do agree it won't hurt them.