Horizon Forbidden West Flying neither Confirmed nor Denied by Dev; Beta Milestone Reached

Game Director Mathijs De Jonge said Horizon Forbidden West already reached beta. He also wouldn't rule out actual flying when asked about it.

[DOMination-]

I honestly never used override for mounts in HZD outside of the tutorial - only used it strategically in a few situations to make them fight on my side to even the odds... I know I'm probably in a minority but I find mounts in games annoying and clumsy. Never used them in AC, TW3, RDR etc. either. Nothing against the game, just my playstyle.

I won't be bothered either way but I hope they find a way to add them for the people who care. The game will still be quality regardless though.

[PrinceAli]

You are SOOOOOO weird loool! The mounts were great and REALLY helped in the exploration gameloop not to mention the map traversal lool... The facgt you never used them in RDR just means you arent just in a minority its more that youre the ONLY PERSON EVER TO DO THIS!! looool

[mkis007]

Yes, laugh out out out out loud indeed!

[Profchaos]

How can you possibly play rdr without mounts. It's expensive as it makes you travel constantly and you need to be on horseback for like 90% of the missions.

The other games hzd, tw3 and especially AC as it has terrible horse controls I can understand the fast travel points are close together and once you find an area going on foot isn't bad.

[Jin_Sakai]

If I remember correctly they couldn’t add flying to Horizon: Zero Dawn because the PS4 HDD was too slow to stream in the game world. Hopefully it doesn’t hold the PS5 version back.

[Orchard]

That sounds more like a Guerrilla problem than a PS4 problem. Plenty of open world games where you can fly exist on PS4 with its mechanical drive.

[Orchard]

@blue-eyedleopard GTA 5 flying works fine on PS3, Xbox 360, PS4 and Xbox One. As do plenty of other games with “high speed flying”.

Spider-Man and MM both exist on PS4 too and run just fine.

So clearly these experiences are possible on PS4. Nothing more needs to be said.

[Profchaos]

True but none that run the same engine that hzd and death stranding do.

One thing I noticed is that climbing large mountain ranges in the frozen wilds resulted in large layers of fog blocking the view below which says maybe it's an engine limitation it tries to render everything fully and can't scale distances like rage in GTA v can.

[Orchard]

@Profchaos Yep, probably an engine limitation rather than a PS4 hardware limitation. Plus Rockstar’s engine is pretty advanced as far as engines go.

[mkis007]

Detail and speed. Gta flys way too slow and the lod is low.

Imagine thinking the ability to fill the ram in a couple seconds wont bring about huge gameplay changes.

[Orchard]

@mkis007 Decima engine could support LOD scaling, similar to RAGE.

“Imagine thinking the ability to fill the ram in a couple seconds wont bring about huge gameplay changes.”

But this game is coming to PS4 too, ya know the PS4 with a mechanical drive. Are you telling me flying will be exclusive to the PS5 version? Doubt it.

[ufo8mycat]

Well of course flying in GTA5 works, they are no where near the quality of textures that exist in Horizon.
If Horizon looked like GTA5 does, than you could easily achieve flying in Horizon on PS4.

And those distance textures of Spiderman looked mighty fine on PS4 didn't they? /sarcasm

[Orchard]

SM and SMMM both look fine on PS4. Are we now pretending they were some kind of unplayable mess?

HFW will look great on PS4 too.

[-Foxtrot]

Yeah I remember something like this BUT what's interesting is that they know about this feature and must know by now how much we want it.

So if it's not added, then I'd be disappointed considering how many times people have went on about flying mounts and hacking the Stormbird

[Tacoboto]

Considering their emphasis on the water systems, I don't think we'll be seeing flying mounts.

Their engine's evolved enough now between HZD, Death Stranding, and their enhanced PC ports, that I'm sure *if* they wanted flying, they'd find a way for the PS4 to work with it. But we saw the BotW comparisons when the glider got introduced - maybe they distinctly wanted to avoid the predictable route we'd all expect and that's why we now have the emphasis on water.

[jukins]

I dont know i think its gonna be a surprise reveal. At this point theyve detailed the game deeply. I have a feeling they can do it on ps5 but not on ps4. Shouldve been a straight denial. Maybe a ps5 only feature. Probably wishful thinking

[outsider1624]

Flying on a glinthawk, see stormbird, fly on top of it..jump on top of the stormbird mid air and overide it. (Like that scene from Avatar)

Ooooof.

[Profchaos]

Yeah that was their statement which is why I guess we couldn't ride the storm hawk that would of been something.

[hectorius]

Jin_Sakai8h ago
If I remember correctly they couldn’t add flying to Horizon: Zero Dawn because the PS4 HDD was too slow to stream in the game world. Hopefully it doesn’t hold the PS5 version back.***

lolol... Thick as piemeat..

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Killzone: Shadow Fall (PS4) First Gameplay [1080p] TRUE-HD QUALITY
990,722 views•21 Feb 2013

here we have the first Gameplay techdemo of Killzone SF released 8 MONTHS before the PS 4 released, the demo starts with a scene coming in on a Helicopter and ends with him grabbing onto rope dangling of a hover vehicle climbing up, setting a charge then dropping be for it explodes.

Trouble with you children is your stupid an too gullible. They only have to say what isn't there is a "flaw" ... What other game allows you to OVERRIDE beasts, to turn the AI from you/humans and attack their own kind??? After the initial load of Killzone SF which takes around 15 seconds there are no more loadscreens.. Likewise HZD, if you stay away from camps /towns/ villages where you meet people you can cover the entire length/breadth of the continent.. In fact you HAVE to as PHYSICAL movement of the map opens up new areas. Flying over it would show everything at once, but you'd have to land with eyes on the ground/terrain to make sense of the actual game.

Here ya go kid...

go watch an "alleged" 12tf machine using PC hardware, get utterly Decima[ted] by a 1tf machine and a launch title. Then come back and we'll talk about "power".

[outsider1624]

"Trouble with you children is your stupid an too gullible."

Was the insulting reqired?

[Tacoboto]

Some awfully poorly spelled insulting too.

[Profchaos]

Interactive flight in games is far different from an on rails scenario you know this right. They can show us exactly what they want us to see when on rails to the point where it becomes a fine tuned experience.

Interactive flying in the back of a glint hawk would not be like this at all in hzd

[hectorius]

Profchaos9h ago
Interactive flight in games is far different from an on rails scenario you know this right. ***

Flight is flight son. He is inferring the engine cannot do flying, I showed it did. You cannot fly an aircraft and be a passenger, to be able to view the beautiful city, which is about to be decimated... or when you are hanging off it trying to blow it up dipstick. On rails is where the pilot is going, the idea wasn't to fly the plane it was to destroy it. Try to keep up boi.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

There is a sequence in SF where you have to hit a point, by guiding yourself onto a planet through a city which is collapsing all around you.. That look like flying to you??

***They can show us exactly what they want us to see when on rails to the point where it becomes a fine tuned experience.***

You mean like MS Flight Sim 2020
https://www.theregister.com...

***Gamers are replacing Bing Maps objects in Microsoft Flight Simulator with rips from Google Earth
So much for showcasing Redmond's Chocolate Factory alternative
Gareth Corfield Mon 19 Oct 2020 // 08:30 UTC SHARE***

where it only streams graphics, from Bing Maps, which modders are replacing with superior Google Earth?? That sort of "Finely tuned" on the rails experience???

***Interactive flying in the back of a glint hawk would not be like this at all in hzd***

If you've ever turned a glint hawk or any animal close to a glint hawk brood, you know it will get mobbed and ripped to pieces, even before the human does. Glinthawks will attack anything in their territory, they will see you and attack you in force, you won't be sneaking up on them to override them.

Just because the game didn't offer flying, doesn't mean the engine COULDN'T, Killzone 3 had Rocket Thrusters/ zero gravity missions awa Flying where you had to destroy the rocket which was carrying the Petrocite bomb to Earth.. Destroying it, destroyed Helgan which resulted in the mass exodus to Vecta and the wall being built.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

that flying enough for you boi???

[hectorius]

outsider162421h ago
"Trouble with you children is your stupid an too gullible."

Was the insulting reqired?***

Yes it was he's always at it. Think you aren't gullible??? After the AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution.. We had MS putting up "Meetoo", with all the clowns stating that the PS 5 didn't have it.. If you look at the Demo

https://n4g.com/news/242041...

you will see the game they were showing, was Godfall which was a PS 5 console exclusive released 5/6 months ago.

How many clues do you kiddies need?

[MightyHealthy]

Just bring back the fog effect problem solved, lol. What gen was using that

[CaptainHenry916]

I believe flying will make it in the game but you probably won't get access to it until the middle or halfway of your playthrough. It might already be implemented in the story.

[Profchaos]

Or in typical hzd style they save it until you finish the game like the regeneration armour

[F0XH0UND922]

You didn't need to finish the game to get the armor though.

[MightyHealthy]

Its very upsetting this is cross gen, the ssd won't be fully utilized

[Bathyj]

Pfft. I've flown in plenty of games. What I really want to do is ride a robot shark underwater and fire fricken laser beams from its head.

[Storm23]

I would actually love if this was only a feature when playing on a PS5 instead of being scrapped because of the limitations of the PS4 version. Game would still be great on PS4, and PS5 version would feel and be more advanced. They could even make the flying faster if it was just on the PS5 because of the SSD speed.

[medman]

I can't imagine Guerilla would ever do that. They would essentially have to make two different games, because the added possibilities of what players could do in game with the flying option would fundamentally change the way battles/traversal/exploration etc would be approached. Far too much work for a ps5 only version of the game and would take much longer to not only develop but bug test. I would love to see flying mounts I just don't know if they'll get it to work on ps4. I have the distinct feeling we won't be seeing flying mounts until the next Horizon, unfortunately, considering all the work they put into new vertical traversal, new fighting mechanics, work bench system with upgrading weapons and all the other various things they have focused on.

[Storm23]

I don’t think they would do it either, but I would love it.

[medman]

You and me both.