Forza Motorsport is a ‘huge generational leap’ from previous games – here’s why

And yes, the game is officially called Forza Motorsport

[darthv72]

Love the Forza series... can't wait for this.

[Obscure_Observer]

It´s gonna be astonishing! *_*

[FlavorLav01]

There’s gonna be a lot of GAAS burned with this reboot

[1Victor]

Really it’s kind of obvious it’s supposed to be better than previous generation at least graphically, unless it’s all just hype and look like the infamous halo and Greg demo but I highly doubt Microsoft would do something like that with cardboard box trees

[F0XH0UND922]

I agree with Flavor. Game is gonna be riddled with MXT and service based junk.

[OptimusDK]

Why do you care. Are you gonna play it on PlayStation?

[DJStotty]

@FlavorLav01

@FOXHOUND922

"There’s gonna be a lot of GAAS burned with this reboot"

"I agree with Flavor. Game is gonna be riddled with MXT and service based junk."

Source?

Adding new tracks and cars, is not gaas, it is called DLC.

"In the video game industry, games as a service (GaaS) represents providing video games or game content on a continuing revenue model, similar to software as a service."

There is no monthly fee, and there is not a continuing revenue model, therefore it is not GAAS.

[Bigman4k]

Me too

[waverider]

I believe this game will show what the Series X can really do. With the time they had, Forza Motorsport will be the showcase of the Series X. I think the gameplay trailer at e3 will be amazing.

[CaptainHenry916]

It's the king of Racers. I'm looking forward to see how my RTX 3080 will handle it

[PunksOnN4G]

King of Racers lol... Plz GT is an Olympic sport the other is an arcade racer nice try though

[CaptainHenry916]

There was a time when GT was on top but not anymore. Forza is better now

[medman]

Some people prefer GT, others Forza. What cannot be downplayed is the fact GT is still tied closely to the FIA, and gamers have gotten FIA racing licenses and professional racing careers started all from playing Gran Turismo. That is impressive no matter how you look at it. I enjoy them both, tbh. I prefer the more open Forza Horizon to Motorsport, and Gran Turismo was my first love in racing games (well not really, I think my first loves were pole position and rc pro am, but I digress) so GT will always be a game I play.

[Zeref]

@medman

Those are all things of the past.

Forza is just better now. GT7 may be competitive again. but RN Forza is the king, no contest.

[medman]

Things of the past resonate more than things of the present. You're talking about all time games, all time experiences. Meanwhile, what racing game of the past 10 years will stand the test of time and be remembered like the "things of the past", as you put it? Those games were revolutionary, whereas the racing games of today are evolutionary. Major difference. 10 years from now, the racing games will put 2021 games to shame....but the classics will still be classics, and still remembered, unlike the every 3-4 year evolutions happening today.

[frostypants]

iRacing says hi. King of arcade-sim racers maybe.

[Knushwood Butt]

Better tire simulation, different kerbs (?), soft, medium, and hard tire compounds (?), and different track temperatures.

OK, but not convinced that is a huge leap.

Also, author needs to proofread or learn how to use apostrophes.

[Obscure_Observer]

"OK, but not convinced that is a huge leap."

According with Chris Esaki himself, from Forza Motorsport 1 to 7 the tires had only 1 collision point with the track and operated in a 60 Hz frequency.

Now with the new FTech X Engine and its rewritten physics model, the tires now have 8 points of contact with the track, and work at a frequency of 360 Hz, bringing in raw numbers, about 40x more physical fidelity in the tire/asphalt ratio.

It´s gonna be a true next gen racing experience!

Can´t wait to see what innovations the competition will bring to compete. ;)

[RaidenBlack]

They named the new one FTech X?

[Knushwood Butt]

Like I wrote in another thread, I want full VR.

[Obscure_Observer]

@RaidenBlack

"They named the new one FTech X?"

Yes. Also, FTech X is the same engine powering another insanely looking amazing game:

https://techcrunch.com/wp-c...

https://www.gamespot.com/a/...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

https://s3.amazonaws.com/eb...

Oh yes! Almost forgot FTech X will also be powering another very anticipated Action Open World RPG from another Team of Racing Masters:

https://compass-ssl.xbox.co...

;)

[HOLDERofFOOD]

Can you explain to me how 8 points of contact with the road will effect gameplay? Already feels pretty realistic. To me the way the title hyped physics I expect incredible collisions and vehicle damage, not tire to asphalt points of contact.

[Skywalker333]

@DarthMarvin: What last gen hardware? The new Forza Motorsport is confirmed to be only on Xbox Series X, Xbox Series S, and Windows 10 PCs, with no Xbox One support.

[ScootaKuH]

Numbers are great and all, but will the game actually feel any different to play? I doubt it

[DJStotty]

@DarthMarvin

"both being cross-gen is super disappointing."

Gotta try and spread that false info to justify GT7 being cross-gen right?

Sorry to offend you, i really am, but there is currently zero Xbox One support in the works for Forza Motorsport.

Next-gen goodness only.

[King_Noctis]

“ Like I wrote in another thread, I want full VR.”

MS doesn’t produce their own VR headset like Sony and you know that. So there is very little chance that this game would get any VR mode. I’d rather they focus their development on something else rather than VR for this iteration.

[yeahokwhatever]

Forza will be on PC, and that has lots of VR options.

[porkChop]

I mean they have WMR, but that's pretty dead. The launch headsets just weren't that great and people skipped them for Oculus and the like.

[Knushwood Butt]

Fair enough but I was replying specifically to what Obscure wrote.

'Can´t wait to see what innovations the competition will bring to compete.'.

If you want something else, I want a fully recreated Targa Florio event.

[OptimusDK]

Flight simulator calling

[iplay1up2]

Phil Spencer said 'VR for S/X is a no brainer" Microsoft could use VR already out, on PC for Series consoles. They don't even have to develop an Xbox VR headset, just patch for the new consoles.

Not saying that is what they will do. Just that is what they could do.

https://www.xboxachievement...

[Knushwood Butt]

Fog on Nurburgring.

What do you want, Noctis?

3 people don't want Targa Florio? How sad. Porsche 917s flat out on the doorsteps of country village houses in rural Italy. Really doesn't get better than that.

[Shadowsteal]

It's spelled "curb" and is right in the article yet you managed to grossly misspell it.

[Knushwood Butt]

Yep, you got me bang to rights and no mistake, guv.

[frostypants]

They've been playing the "tire simulation" card since Forza 3. It's marketing bs.

[mattyhaxxx2]

Can’t wait

[zero_jp]

If it’s finally taking the Gran Turismo leap then it’s going to be something special.

Because the franchise has been accused for years as being too arcadey while Gran Turismo is a sim.

There has to be actual pit crews in game and that’s just the beginning. The bumper car bullshit has got to be eliminated completely.

A system in place like Gran Turismo Sport though not perfect that can be fine tuned with player feedback that enforces clean driving or face penalties mercilessly has got to be in place for online play day one.

You add those two things and the game will truly be out of this world excellent on top of what the franchise already is.

[Orchard]

I’m hoping they don’t copy GT. Forza has been better than GT for a long time now, and sport is probably the worst in the series…

[DJStotty]

No, they should just do their own thing than be lazy and just copy the competition.

I hope they take their own route, and implement whatever systems they want.

[Einhander1971]

Will be great to see this running soon:)

[Bender6502]

Okay, maybe it's illegitimate of me to comment on racing games since I'm not a fan. However, it's not because I inherently don't like racing games, no. It's because for all the talk of amazing physics, fantastic graphics etc. ALL racing games to date have one undeniable flaw which makes them nothing more than arcade bumpers cars. Do I need to say more? Okay I will then. When racing around a track with such breathtaking visuals and immersion, and spot on physics, why is it that smashing into other cars has absolutely no impact? Winning a race is less about skill and more about who can smash through the pack fastest. Keep your physics and tyre types. Far as I'm concerned all racers are nothing more than high gloss Mario kart games. Not trying to upset anyone, just trying to address the elephant in the room

[Skywalker333]

This is because of licensing. Almost no car manufacturer wants to give the developer the licence to draw their car and have them in the game and then to be able to break it into pieces. So developers are stuck between two options. Either use imaginary cars and put there a nice destruction model, or use licenced cars and pray you are allowed to show some minimal scrapes and bruises.

I agree that the industry and the genre is being held back because of this but this is due to the car manufacturers and I'm not sure how to change this.

[Good-Smurf]

Not much they can do about that, even the best racing sim on PC don't have full damage model on cars.

[enkiduxiv]

Same way you fix Madden and FIFA. Use fakes. If the devs can create alternatives that have the same depth of mechanics that real vehicles have, people would eat that stuff up.

Hell, maybe they could do a classic racing sim with models that are too old for a manufacturer
To care about.

[Skywalker333]

@enkiduxiv, like I also said, that is one of the two available options. But racing gamers HATE seeing "Redstar" instead of Ferrari or "Germania" instead of Porshe.
This is ok in an arcade racing game but in a simulation, people really hate it (as we have seen many times in the past in sim games where 1-2 licences were not available).
Also, even if you use fake names, if the design of the car is exactly the same as the real, you could be liable for the copyrights of the design. They probably wont bother if there is no significant car dmg, but if you plan on making it fall apart, they could chase the developer.

Every racing developer is struggling with this decision on every game but...

[DJStotty]

Nailed it, that is exactly the reason.

Scrapes and scratches they allow, but doors/body parts flying off, not so much.

[Locutus_of_borg]

You should try Wreckfest.....

[franwex]

Deforming cars would take away resources from other things. The purpose of these games is to race professionally. You just have to suspend your belief.

[chiefJohn117]

It definitely takes skill idk how you can say otherwise. You don't play so you wouldn't understand. And someone trying to "smash through the pack" definitely ain't winning lol
The cleaner driver is usually the one to win.

[DJStotty]

"When racing around a track with such breathtaking visuals and immersion, and spot on physics, why is it that smashing into other cars has absolutely no impact?"

Options > Damage > On

[Father__Merrin]

Tbh even FM7 running on series x looks good

[XBManiac]

3 years waiting... 4 years in development... This can be a real new game.

[RonsonPL]

Every generation hey say the same thing.
I remember the "revolution" they were talking about when going from first Forza to Forza 2 on x360.
Then again with newer games and basically the same shit with Xone and now.
Even with Forza 2 there was exactly the same thing:
"This new hardware allows for such a huge jump. Physics are unlike anything before! it's amazing how realisitic our physics are now. Blah blah blah"

(yawning)
Wake me up when they say anything new, for a change.

[rakentaja]

This time 2 things have changed.
1. 4-5 years in development, not 2 (if it comes out at the end of 2022). FM7 came out late 2017.
2. Next gen only, no cross-gen like Gran Turismo 7.

[RonsonPL]

Yes, but Forza 2 was also nextgen only. No Xbox version
and Forza 5 too. No x360 version

OK, with F5 they were also bragging about having dirt and imperfections on the car paint ;)

I enjoyed the games, especially since the third one, but I think this repeated "look at our physics, now it's real!" for 3 generations is dumb as hell. ;)
and I don't really care which one is "the king". I like both FM and GT.
I just don't like to be treated like an idiot by those marketing/PR people.

[CYALTR]

I don't really have an opinion one way or the other, but didn't MS state that all 1st party games will also be supported on last gen systems? Personally, even though I still have a OneX I thought a year of support was sufficient. Did they change their minds on this?

[chiefJohn117]

You kinda sound ridiculous considering we as gamers do this with every gen.

[Battlestar23]

Hope they announce that this is cross-gen while i have a SX my brother has the One X and we always play the Forza games together. It would be a shame to lock out Xbox gamers who haven't been able to upgraded yet due to the console shortage out of playing this game.

[Popsicle]

If it is that important I’m sure you and many others will be able to get their hands on an X/S by the end of 2022. Considering this it would be more of a shame for one of their flagship games to still be locked to 9 year old tech (in 2022). It’s time for a new experience.

[chiefJohn117]

Tell him to get xcloud lol

[leikes1]

blah,blah,blah.....they used to use forza motorsport as a console seller....when will this be out??? 2022; shame on you microsoft

[Orchard]

Huh? Lots of good games for both new platforms are 2022… so what?

[Orchard]

Excited to see how this looks and plays on the new engine. I don’t expect it anytime soon though - especially since MS said no next gen exclusives for 2 years and this is supposedly exclusive.

[Ryzza5]

It all sounds like great news... except for the name. What can't they learn from previous confusion and community reactions to poor console naming choices? Or consider NFS Most Wanted "2012", or the Nvidia Titan "XP". If you don't name your product properly, the community will name it for you. I know I will be calling it FM8.

[Plagasx]

Can someone recommend the best steering wheel to play the Forza games with? I want to get in to it.

[Jakens]

There are many, look at Fanatec.

[DJStotty]

So hyped for some more Forza greatness!!