From Digital Foundry: "The RTX 3080 Ti is here, and I know what you're thinking - why even release an RTX 3080 Ti if the 3080 remains so hard to find? The official answer from Nvidia is binning: chips come off the production line with different levels of quality, and get sorted into different 'bins' based on the performance that each particular bit of silicon is capable of achieving. For the GA102 GPU that lies at the heart of the 3080, 3080 Ti and 3090, the lower tier parts turn into 3080s, better parts into the 3080 Ti and the best of all into the 3090 - and they've been holding onto these middle-tier parts to deploy the long-planned 3080 Ti for some time now."
From The Verge: "Nvidia is launching a new 12GB model of its RTX 3080 today. Revealed initially in Nvidia’s latest GeForce drivers, the new 12GB model goes on sale today from select board partners and offers 2GB more memory than the original 10GB RTX 3080.
A memory bump is welcome, particularly as it was a source of concern during our initial review of the RTX 3080 in 2020. It also matches the 12GB found on the RTX 3080 Ti. This new RTX 3080 model also includes 8960 CUDA cores, a bump of nearly 3 percent over the original. The upgraded memory also means this GPU has 20 percent more cumulative bandwidth over the original 10GB variant, thanks to a wider 384-bit memory bus."
Hardware Unboxed already covered it, early reviews not allowed, Nvidia acting shady. 650 price point for the 10GB card was too low and won't be returning. AIB 10GB cards apparently already discontinued.
It's an excuse to bump up the prices even more, such an odd release considering it's barely any faster and just a bit more VRAM, that's hardly going to make any difference.
4000 series cards will probably have insane pricing now, the 3060Ti was pretty reasonable at MSRP, as was the 3080 before scalped pricing.
I remember high end cards used to be 300-400 max, and good mid range cards could be had for 100-200, probably never have those prices again, but Intel might come full force with their GPUs and help bring prices back down a bit.
Intel is really the hope here. Their focus in the mid-range and using a completely untapped process for GPUS can really save us. Just a matter of them having the quantity and their drivers being good.
Intel is definitely not a savior, they were the reason CPU performance was stuck for nearly a decade, while increasing price, just so they can drastically improve their overhead.
I don't think we'll ever get back to "MID-RANGE" being $150 - $200 new. The best value GPUs were the $100 used GTX 1060 / RX 570 / RX 580, and if you were pretty lucky a used GTX 1070 for $150. As of 2022 those GPUs are now selling for 2.5x the price they were just a year ago, and brand new we're looking at the RX 6500 XT launching at $199 with performance on par with a RX 590 which launched for $50 more over 3 years ago and quickly dropped to $229 when the 1660 launched. 3 years later and we're still at the same performance levels albeit with Raytracing, and less power consumption, but also less VRAM.
The value market is dead, until we get out of this chip shortage and performance steadies sometime in 2024. At best 2023 will bring better price:performance than the current scalping going on at retail with the reduction of chip shortage but also introducing the full RTX 4000 and RX 8000 lineups (which will cause shortages due to performance being 2.5x - 3.0x) and then sometime in 2024 finally have our new norm of $200 - $300 "VALUE-BASED" GPUs (aka console level PS5 / SX).
$100 - $200 Budget (RTX 2060 performance levels in 2023 - 2024)
$200 - $300 Value (RTX 2070 - 2080s performance levels in 2023 - 2024)
$300 - $500 Mid-Range (RTX 3080 - 3090 performance levels in 2023 - 2024)
$500 - $800 High-End
$1000 - $2000 MCM GPUs
Well, a lot of games were already starting to heavily creep into (sometimes going over) the 10gb of ram, so I wouldnt say it doesnt make a difference. Honestly though, 12gb is what the 3080 og should have at least launched with.
That said, anything regarding the pricing tactics is a whole other topic and no card is worth the prices they are going for, not to mention NVIDIA just taking advantage of the market to also increase the MSRP
Yeah it's pretty crap right now for GPUs. While we do of course need to adjust the prices to inflation, they are still way too high. Nvidia is being really shady here. Their corporate practices are one of the reason I went with Red team.
I ended up paying 1200€ for my used 6900xt in the end (from a shop with 2 weeks warranty), but had problems with the mount and temps, and had no OEM warranty, so I went in the end with custom watercooling. That cost me quite a bit on top of the GPU. I think I've put around 3000€ to my PC. Sure, it works really well, is top of the line, but I will never ever put that kind of money on any electronics again. It's not about if I have the money, it's about HOW I used my money, and I used it poorly.
I regret upgrading my 2020 PC I built on a budget. That budget build was the perfect match for my needs, I got so much satisfaction of the perfect balance of budget and performance...but nooooo! I just had to sell it to get a better GPU to run games higher res, fps and ultra details. Then my upgrades ran into problems and I had to upgrade more and more and it was endless. In the end, 1440p upscaled to 4K on optimized settings are almost the same as native 4K ultra, and I just ended up paying for nothing.
Decided not to buy anything PC related until at least 2026. Prices are probably down then, and meanwhile I can play games at 1440p60 & 4K60 depending on the title. Still, Had to put down 3x the money to get 2x the performance. It's just stupid. Never again will I put that kind of money to entertainment.
Let my story be a warning to you all! Stay on your PS5 or buy a budget gaming PC. Upgrade once in 5 years and you are solid, don't splurge, you'll just regret it later.
They always been shady I'm sure they sabotaged Sony a bit with their weak ass GPU they put in PS3.
Now they release a new GPU while most struggle to find their decent priced products that been out for over a year.
"but Intel might come full force with their GPUs and help bring prices back down a bit."
Not much reason for them to deny themselves the profit margins like that. Most likely they will undercut AMD and Nvidia by a small amount, then slowly raises their prices to their level as they gain a foothold in the market.
bah that sucks. I have an ASUS STRIX 3080. These cards should have had 12GB from the start over the 10. But I'm not spending these prices.
Agreed it should of done, I game at 1440p on my 3080 and so far the 10GB has been fine for that, only hope that holds true for the next few years at least for the sake of my wallet.
yep, I'm in the same boat. I play at 1440p because I'd rather max my 144hz monitor than play at 4k at sub 60fps. I imagine at those resolutions we should be perfectly fine.
Replies(1)You can announce all you want but I can't afford any of them. If the trend continues that you can't get a decent gpu with a bit of future in mind under a 1000 euros. Might as well try and get ps5.
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Nvidia already droped prices of their 3000 series cards in India by 20%
As Gamers Nexus said, it's a waste of $$
As a semi ignorant in what comes to tech stuff, isn't "Ti" cards for laptops?