The new release of Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age has coincided with the removal of the original game, sticking PC and PlayStation 4 players with downgraded Nintendo Switch graphics and few options to get the original.
I'm assuming they will also stop printing the physical version. Glad I already have it.
Guess the OG PRINT is gonna go up in price.
I still have a wrapper PS4 copy that I forgot I had lol. Gonna keep it wrapped and get the new version as well
This should have been a free upgrade for anyone who owns the original. I'm so sick of companies thinking they can get away with things like this.
Its a downgrade really.
@jjb so adding in a full 2d mode to play the game in, tackertown or whatever its called, fast battle speed, mount from anywhere, forge from anywhere, symphonic soundtrack instead of the shit they put in first, 12 new superbosses + one ultimate boss if im not mistaken, all party members showing up in open world, new stories for the main cast, new costumes, being able to use costumes without equiping the gear its associated to is just a downgrade? These arent all the additions btw, there is also some other minor quality of life additions. Yes the graphics looks worse, but its not as simple as "its a downgrade really". If you only care about graphics then sure, its a downgrade. If you care about gameplay and content, not so much. There is also a reason why they used upped switch graphics and not the ps4 ones. When DQ11 was in development UE4 wasnt working properly for switch, so when they made it for the switch they used a different version of UE4 than the ps4 version. All these additional features are just not coded into the 1st ps4 version and would be a way bigger task than just copying the switch additional features into the ps4 since they use different UE4 engine versions. I would have loved if they put the better graphics into this version as well, but unfortunately that isnt the case. But just calling it a downgrade is kind of ignorant, since you are ignoring everything besides the graphics.
Yeah this is flat out greed. People accuse Bethesda of greed, and rightly so, but at least when Bethesda released Skyrim Special Edition on PC, they gave owners of the original Legendary Edition a free upgrade. S-E is NOT Squaresoft, and never will be again. DQXI is a good enough game, but not good enough to justify a second purchase.
It's a downgrade to be honest graphically.
The game in its original format has a gorgeous art style. The "definitive" is a switch port. The music is quirky but they're not taking that away. They're giving you a Switch port over original content that was created in higher fidelity.
Too bad we never the version I wanted most : Dragon Quest XI on the 3DS
That's a bit of a **** move. The original version has some advantages over S. If S had the same or better graphics as the original, then it wouldn't be an issue, but that isn't the case. I'm just glad S is available on Game Pass, because there is no way I am buying the game again after buying it on Steam when it was released.
The original has better visual fidelity, but S is a better and more complete game in every other way.
It would've been better if this "ultimate" version used the better graphics from the first PC version, but what we got is nowhere near the disaster people are claiming to be. It's still a very beautiful game, and it's not such a big downgrade. Although I really think Square should've offered a big discount for owners of the first version. (at least in Steam, where they can check who already has the game)
I'm glad I have the physical PS4 version. They are just shafting digital owners.
You mean prospective digital customers. The current digital owners are fine.
Just ordered on GameStop. Will be my first game in the series. Is it a self contained story or do I need to check out the lore from some of the other games?
It’s self contained. The only other DQ game I played was 8, and I had no trouble following what was going on in 11.
Sounds good. I figured it was a good opportunity to jump in. They put out a trailer yesterday and it kind of reminded me of some of the 90's RPG's like Chrono Trigger, Breath of Fire, etc. Considering how much the series is loved in Japan, I can't imagine it not being a decent play at the very least.
^^^ Probably reminds you of Chrono Trigger because they have the same character designer., Toriyama, the creator of Dragon Ball.
DQXI has its own story
They're all self contained like Final Fantasy. Dragon Quest XI is a great RPG.
yeah its a fresh story, although you will miss a lot of the references to their previous games, but those are just there for fans of the series anyway. Nothing important story/character wise you will miss out on.
I'll hold onto the physical ps4 copy.
The 60fps is very nice, but yeah graphically it took a hit. It's pretty noticeable even at 4k. I would still recommend the original due to the graphical boost it's pretty significant. The world feels less lush and full.
Was hoping they’d just drop the price of the original You can still buy Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal on PSN, so this is a strange decision
This is the price you have to pay for Nintendo's Switch sales and popularity. Just deal with it.
More like the original version of the game wasn't entirely complete. Vast portions were left unvoiced(and still are even in S), which can be jarring at some points, and the midi soundtrack was awful. The original has better visual fidelity, but S is a better and more complete game in every other way. To be fair to SE, they did have to basically rebuild the entire game on Switch, it wasn't a port. It was a new game in a different engine, using a different code base. I'm pretty sure they rebuilt all the character models and assets as well, and didn't port them. Not from a consumer standpoint, because it looks very similar, but from a developer perspective, they built an entirely new game. Makes sense that they wouldn't want to do it a third time. That being said, they shouldn't have removed the option of choosing which version to have.
@Dan it has nothing to with that, stop spouting nonsense.
Square being wierd as usual...
Glad i have a retail copy of Dragon Quest 11.
Delisting and full control over gamers and games. Probably the main reasons. I stand for physical copies. Now that they’ve done this, I wouldn’t be surprised if SE releases DQS with PS4 graphics after they force people to buy the Switch port.
So what's the difference? A bunch of extra content but with worse graphics?
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