Now that I've had some time to play with the PS5 DualSense on PC with Steam and DS4Windows, it's time to decide which is best for PC gaming.
There's a fan-made app on the Microsoft Xbox store right now that allows players to connect their DualSense controller to Xbox Series XlS.
I have been a PS fan since day one and last year switched to PC and to me Xbox series controller just feels better (no doubt features wise dual sense has more to offer but the feel in hand xbox feels more natural)
The feel between the two is negligible at best. One thing I can absolutely say is not negligible is the sound difference. The Series controller is a loud, clicky, cheap sounding mess.
I prefer the Xbox controller too. I think there was a Steam survey that showed 60% of the controllers used were Xbox controllers.
Just wait until Microsoft starts selling Xbox controllers for PS5. I joke, I joke, that’s one red line Microsoft will never cross…
Promise?
Will it?
MUMMY.
DS has the better actuators but the XB feels better to hold. It is clicky... but that audible feedback is nice to hear. Then again i also like the classic clicky keyboards of yore.
Hopefully Sony will get the ergonomics right one day, they’ve come a long way since the PS1 but Xbox has always had comfier controllers.
I have both and it blows my head when people say the Xbox controller is better. The controller sounds cheap and hollow when moving the analogue sticks. The vibration feedback is pretty naff and the LB/RB buttons are like digital mouse buttons.
I've not used the Elite controller myself but the standard one just doesn't compare with the Duel Sense.
@ RupeeHoarder
I absolutely agree. The Xbox controller is indeed a loud, clicky cheap feeling controller. I prefer my dual sense and 8bitdo Ultimate controllers. But in my opinion all of these controllers are very comfortable
Guys I just shared my opinion on what felt better in my hands. Dual sense has more features like I said and I agree compared to Xbox controller DS feels premium. I wish Sony would give the option between having a normal dual sense and one layed out like Xbox controller and I wish Xbox would do the same. Having more options is better for us all
Controllers are such a subjective matter. What feels good in my hands might not in another gamers hands
I honestly can’t believe people still argue about this. The Xbox controller is significantly more ergonomic/comfortable than anything PlayStation has ever put out. Do you guys like those weirdly stiff, gross feeling dualsense triggers? How about that giant useless touchpad in between the and share buttons (2 of the worst buttons I’ve ever used on a controller). The triggers on the dualsense bottom out at an inward angle for crying out loud. The PS button feels weird and should probably just be a circle shape with the ps logo like it was on ps3. I love PlayStation and haven’t owned anything Xbox since the 360, but let’s just be honest. Xbox one controllers onward NAIL the controller feel. PlayStation controllers just have really awkward design decisions.
Really? I really think the people that say this MUST have small hands. There's NO way if you have big hands that you'd think the Xbox Series X controller feels natural in your hands. To me, it feels small and my hands feel like it's smothering the controller. It feels awkward to hold compared to the hefty PS5 Dual Sense controller. I'm not body shaming small hands either, sorry if it sounds like it.
Rocky I am 6-4 with quite large hands. I have a otter box cover OK my controllers. Yes without that she'll case I definitely think it's too small
well thats your personal opinion, im a full time pc gamer and the dualsense is easily the best controller ever made, the texture effect on the back and sides of the xbox controller this generation is extremely strong that it feels awful, I literally have to use a rubber cover or wear gloves to make that texture go away, it feels like saw dust. Playstation also has a texture but its much more normal feeling, the last time microsoft had a better controller than sony was the xbox 360, xbox one and ps4 dualshock were basically a tie, while dualsense smokes the series s/x controller for me personally
I've got to admit I never liked the Xbox one design the stick tension is wrong it's shoulder buttons don't feel right the grips are not as ergonomic and I don't like using it for long periods of time but the 360 pad was perfection I still use it over the Xbox one controller
The Sony defense force is gonna hate your comment. They're corporate bootlickers so expect downvotes.
The Xbox series controller is inferior to the Dualsense in just about every way possible. Dualsense feels better in my hands. Haptic feedback obviously makes the Dualsense the better controller and that can’t even be debated.
The series controller feels too “narrow” in my hands compared to the Dualsense
To be fair i was using a duelshock 4 with xcloud to play halo a few years ago already which felt like a nice novelty
A hard pill to swallow? Huh? Like anyone is clamoring to hook up a Playstation controller to an Xbox. What a weird statement...
I prefer the Xbox controller. So do most PC players.
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On PC the biggest drawback of dualshock/dualsense is lack of universal support.
Once you've got DS4Windows / Steam Support configured, the Sony controllers simply have more features.
I can use the trackpad as a mouse which is really useful in Windows.
I can also use the gyro in Steam games for fine tuned aiming which is a great feature once you get used to it.
The other advanced features that the dualsense have are great (triggers, better haptics), but having to connect it via USB just to find most PC games don't support it isn't great at all.
Anyway this user mod doesn't support any of that greatness on xbox anyway... i was just talking about PC
Budget 3rd party controllers have been amazing lately that even include back buttons, great battery life, trigger stops, and hall effects for $40-$60. 3rd party has been amazing and stepping it up, I'd recommend them if you're on PC. Official controllers by the big 3 and pro controllers are selling them overpriced and have some features fail within a year as a person who's tried out many controllers myself.
fuck no
i hate the xbox controllers. they are so bulky and loud for no good reason.
the biggest drawback of the somy controllers is the lack of 100% support.
Plus the face buttons feel like you need to press then harder which doesn't lend itself well to twitch motions it's my most hated gamepad for retro gaming on PC or though emulation
It feels like it's built around shooters and nothing else
Only because of the ease of use connecting a Microsoft product to a PC. It's just plug and play unlike the dualsense. I personally use an Xbox controller too on my laptop, but if it was as flawless I'd be using a dualsense every time.
Price is likely a factor as well. The Xbox controller is 35 dollars less expensive than the dual sense. At least here in Canada anyway
I always forget how archaic the Xbox controller is, it'll be be like a wizard from the future casting a spell on the confused peasants.
"What is this magic you bring us?"
No s#it.
"If you use the adjective archaic you are referring to something outmoded, belonging to an earlier period. Rotary phones and cassette players already seem so archaic! The adjective archaic means something that belongs to an earlier or antiquated time."
This is a huge win. I will try this as soon as I get home before Microsoft pulls the app. The only thing that is left is for someone to mod the dual sense controller buttons with Xbox buttons.
Ok, to add an update. The app works, but you will need a PC or Android phone to act as a middleman to manage the connection between the console and the dual-sense controller. I was able to connect my dual sense using Bluetooth to my laptop, and then my laptop was able to connect to the Xbox via wifi.
I was able to control the Xbox dash board using the controller, and I tried playing 2 games. I tried the Xbox 360 version of Sonic Generations (disk version), but that didn't work. I then tried playing Forza Horizon 4 (Digital), and I was able to control the game without any noticeable input lag. I expected the game to have rumble like PS4 games on the PS5, however, there was no vibration what so ever. I was only able to experience the novelty of using a dual sense controller to control the Xbox Series X. In its current state, you are better off just using the Xbox controller.
The flaw I noticed is that if you have Steam running on your PC and you press the Playstation button thinking it will take you back to the dashboard, you are wrong. It will just launch Steam big picture mode on the PC, and at that point you have to focus on what is on your PC because you don't want to press and open something accidentally. It seems you will still need an Xbox controller to get back to the dashboard/home screen. It doesn't matter if you exit Steam on your PC.
Following the 30th anniversary versions of the PlayStation 5 featuring an old-school gray colorway, Killscreen has announced a customized version of the PlayStation 5’s DualSense controller called the CubeSense, which comes with a purple shell and custom joysticks inspired by the Nintendo GameCube.
Looks nice but pricy and dont like the right trigger being smaller for my gaming purposes but like the look of it.
150 bucks ahahaha, no. You can make yourself a custom controller simply buying spare parts off Aliexpress.
I tried this once, and the hardest part was changing the touchpad. Luckily, I was able to melt the glue with a hair dryer, and from there, everything was easy.
Sony has seemingly implemented a PS5 DualSense controller price increase without announcing it, and it's implemented by retailers too.
As if they weren't already overpriced enough as it is. And all 3 first party companies refuse to use hall effect analog sticks on purpose, just to sell more us controllers.
Sega used hall effect analog sticks for both Saturn and Dreamcast.
What do you mean? Third-party controllers do use Hall effect to prevent stick drift.
Indeed, I have even recently bought hall effect third party controllers on pre-order last month, but I made no mention of third parties in my previous post. I specifically mentioned first party, which are usually the best build quality (outside of the potentiometer analog sticks).
Get ready for those to be blocked via a update sony and xbox has blocked alot of 3rd party stuff on there consoles even fight stick's no doubt 3rd party pads will also be blocked soon.
Now you know how Nintendo's making a killing with their stick drift prone Joy Cons.
I missed the days they used to make indestructible controller immune to analog stick drift came with the system.
Some of my DualShock 2 controllers still going strong with no stick drift after what seemed like 20 years despite its rubber are all melted away long before and yes, the pressure sensitive buttons still work perfectly as well.
Yep, even my 1996 Nintendo 64 controller still works fine its a bit loose, but the sensitivity is still present, and there is no drifting. First party companies are intentionally taking the piss with us, and its not right. The DualSense Edge allows you to replace the analog sticks, but that's a feature which should be present on all standard controllers from Sony / Nin / MS, without having to pay $200 for the privilege just to pay them more for replacement sticks.
My DualShocks 1, 2, 3, don't really suffer from any drifting, but I bought some used PS3 consoles off ebay, and the controllers arrived damaged with sticks that have some drifting to them, but that's because they were abused.
I really am surprised how there hasn’t been an class action lawsuit for that against these companies
First party controller prices are insane. 3rd parties like 8BitDo are putting out controllers with just as high quality, with hall effect sticks and triggers, for considerably less money. It's become such a ripoff.
It's actually gone higher in other regions Australia just saw it go from $110 RRP to $125 not that it doesn't frequently go on sale for $80 odd
Hmm.... when the Concord controller went on sale, it was $84.99 while the Astro bot one was $79.99. And Astro released after Concord yet they are just now increasing the price by $5.
I have 1 Astro Bot, 3 launch and 1 Edge plus I’ll get another with the Pro. I don’t need anymore controllers. I’ll probably keep the Astro Bot in the box. I have had no issues with any of them even the 2 my young children use. I do make them wash their hands before using them and tell them not ever to set the controllers on the stick side so that helps I’d guess.
I’m sure parts cost more for them so it gets passed to the consumer.
you didnt pick up the concord one? That goes for big $$ now, like the hogwarts edition. The other special editions seem to be more reasonable but those two are stupid pricey now.
This is just ridiculous!
And even more so are the people expecting Pro's price to be less than 600$.
My issue is that on steam you can modify on a game by game bases as some nave native support and DS4Windows you'd have to turn on and off and the issue with what I'm saying. If it has native support and you use the Steam API or DS4W it'll give you Xbox control prompts so it's more convenient to just run the steam API. Generally games outside of steam make sure to have support unless old. I have both and will only use DS4W if I absolutely have to. It's good but the game by game bases on steam is so much more ideal. Example Games with DS4 native support will allow trackpad support like Ni no Kuni using the track pad. But with DS or Steam activated it puts the trackpad to the share button. So the manual ability to disable it anytime that game starts makes it where that game operates correctly every time
I just use my 360 controller for 3rd person games, like GTA. All FPS games keyboard/mouse. No need for me to spend 70$ on a controller. Plus I like it to just work without any drivers just plug & play like the 360 controller.