Days Gone was created by Sony Bend Studio and headed by two senior developers, Jeff Ross and John Garvin, who have left the studio.
Even though it sold incredibly well, seeing this is always worrisome. I was so excited for Days Gone before it was released and while it took a little bit before I really got into the game at first, it became one of my favorites games of all time, so my hope is still high for a sequel, especially after 'that' ending.
I agree. It was a gem of a game, I really hope they do a great job with the sequel. Luckily I do have trust in Sony 1st party or deliver again.
Devs leaving studios is by no means newsworthy but when masterminds like these two leave it's worth noting that the rest of the team will need to pick up the slack and deliver on the next game. From what I've experienced with Days Gone I'd say they have a bright future ahead of them, under competent direction of course.
My game of the generation. Bought it at bargain price with zero expectation
Feels like these dudes announcing within 5 minutes of each other, especially when one dude has been gone for a year, is a sign that a sequel isn't coming.
Devs leaving studios is by no means newsworthy except for this one time right now when my opinion matters more.
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It also means it won't be a future Syphon Filter since John Garvin was the writer and senior developer for all the games
someone else could do siphon filter, even though he started it, they are enough of them there that worked along side him and can deliver just like days gone 2. since Galvin left since last year I'm sure they found capable replacements to carry it on
Hopefully he goes on to make a spiritual successor since Sony doesn't seem to care about the SF IP.
Yeah well the original quartet consistently got worse each game, and the series converted to a Handheld system franchise with bad ports. So maybe best for a change of the guard anyway. I just don’t know if “espionage” types of games are in market anymore. If they were I think we’d see Ubisoft pump out Splinter Cell every other year like Assassins Creed games. Even that series has evolved to more of an RPG like. You have to really nail them (Metal Gear Solid, Deus Ex, Dishonored) just to think of a few. And if you don’t, the sales could really hurt you.
Was there ever going to be another one?
While the story was great in my opinion (subjective), and the overall game was good, marketing is what saved this title and allowed it to sell so well. There are so many fundamental flaws with the game that I’m very surprised it took Sony nearly 2 years after the game’s release (well into pre-production of the studio’s next title(s)) before they finally realized those two do not have the natural talent for AAA game development. Days Gone should not have taken nearly 6 years given the type of game it shipped as
Not sure what you are on about. The game was amazing. Especially gameplay wise.
The game was great, one of the best last gen games in fact.
The progression system was completely amateur. You would see upgrades for your bike but would literally be locked out of progressing majority of the upgrades until you reached certain story missions that provided enough credits. Huge jumps in credits that made hunting freaker ears obsolete as they became worthless at the value they’re worth. Essentially leading the ears to only be vital for the first 1/3 of the game. That is poor game progression design and part of why they were fired.
I feel like the ones criticizing never actually played it and are just using boilerplate criticisms from the reviewers to diss the game. Days Gone was one of the best of the generation gameplay wise. They actually made traveling fun in a open world game. Good story, fun gameplay. The sales showed that word of mouth pulled the game through. Looking forward to sequel.
Lol I platinumed the game within the first week, so unless you’re just speaking in general about the average consumers that are deciding to complain (not directing your comment towards me) then sure, what you’re saying is possible. I only speak for myself and my sole opinion. But yes in regards to a sequel, under the right guidance, experience, and leadership I am genuinely looking forward to what they think of next as well. Also hoping hordes can be effectively tackled earlier in the campaign as well
Don't be too worried these guys aren't the only two Senior Developers in the world., people move on and others step up.
Developers come and go. Developers who worked on The Last of Us left Naughty Dog, but TLOU2 was still a massive blockbuster hit. This doesn't mean anything.
Me too. I played a little bit and then stopped. I came back earlier this year and finished it and it was completely amazing. I really wish I played it when it came out.
I will really want to know where they end up.
Don't worry there's gonna be a sequel and since ppl loved it, contrary to the media, expect suddenly the sequel becoming now a 9/10 in the future despite changing little to the formula.
No it isn't worrisome. Studios have turnover that is how it is. A studio has to be a team. One or two people even if they are key people do not kill the team.
Days Gone was one of my Favs this Gen! Story was slightly weak but the gameplay 10/10
Come on, story was at least very intriguing.. Because you have hope at some point and hope just fades away all of a sudden. You never know if you're close. Plus the other characters are so well played, like Skizzo, Boozer...
I think it's testament to the story telling that I actually got so invested in the characters because, before release, I was really cool on the characters. I felt that they seemed quite unlikeable and maybe a little one dimensional but, within a few hours of playing the game it became apparent to me that I had nothing to worry about. Deacon and Boozer were really great characters, badass but still likeable and by the 10 hour mark I was thoroughly invested. Really under appreciated by the critics, thankfully the people who count, the game buying public, loved it.
They are both going to the initiative.
yeah, one wants to take a break and the other moving to Chicago, definitely the initiative
they might as well. Seems like half of Sony Santa Monica and naughty dog work there now. I’m a fan of days gone though I hope we see another one.
One of them left right after Days Gone shipped pretty sure if that was the plan he would have already been there, swing and a miss.
Hahaha you made a harmless joke about how Sony devs keep getting hired on by an XBOX studio and N4G users hated you for it. Hahahaha so funny because even jokes about Microsoft get downvoted. Hahaha N4G is a perfect unbiased gaming community. Hahaha
I used to think it was bias. But no longer think so. It's more like experience. So many whi have experienced MS letdowns so many times can see through the bullshit now.
Yeah it was a joke and I understand sarcasm is lost on the internet but these people take the Sony thing way to seriously. I had a guy pm not long ago telling me he had 8 accounts and he signed in on each and every one of them just to down vote anything I say. Then u used the term xtard. Lol go figure
I enjoyed days gone, it had many good moments. The shooting mechanics were really good. Getting rid of the hordes and camps never got old. But I hated the story, it was pretty bad and tediously long. And many game mechanics seemed unfinished, like the dynamic world enemy attacks and wild life. I do hope a 2nd days gone gets made but with a heavy focus on gameplay. Imagine all the massive hordes the ps5 could run.
I avoided this game because of the reviews, then picked it up for $20 in Feb or March. In May, after Covid hit and while working at home, I had some slow days so I decided to boot it up. Wow! Amazing game! Hopefully they do a sequel and don't screw it up.
Wonder if they weren't meant to be leads on the new project to start with seeing as how the one guy is mentioning they actually left a while ago, but just now able to announce it. Hope it's not bad news, the game had some rough edges but massive potential left to be explored. Guess we'll see in time
And nothing of value was lost. Was a "meh" open world zombie game.
Name a better third person open world zombie game then State of Decay? World War Z? Dead Rising? Day Z? Only one I could think of is Undead Nightmare and it was still limited to the fact it was just a Zombie expansion story to a more grounded game.
Better open world zombie game: Dying light. Much more inovative gameplay - combination of parkour, upgrades, and frantic nighttime moments make that game vastly superior.
@Painfultruth You want some painful truth? State of Decay is nowhere near the quality of Days Gone. And, you guys bring up Dying Light, so I guess you missed the part where he said "third person open world zombie game".
Days Gone was awesome. Havent played dying light. Im sure its good but also a very different game. Days Gone was enjoyable and had fun gameplay.
Naming other, shittier games doesn’t make days gone a good game. It just happens to be slightly less shitty. I payed full price and wasted far too much time trying to make myself like it
It was actually a really good open world zombie game.
It was an awesome game. Played it for 170 hours I think. I squeezed every drop out of this game.
So which open world Zombie game is better?
That's a shame Days Gone was great, it wasn't perfect but it was a solid new IP.
Great? really? It was so slow, boring and clunky. The dialog was laughable. I can’t believe you disliked TLOU2 and call a mediocre game like days gone GREAT. I guess my taste in games tends to align with the critics more.
Because I got more enjoyment from Days Gone It didn’t butcher any characters, ruin a story which came before, did 180s in characters logic from the previous game so on It was brand new...there was nothing to compare it to But no no try and make this about the Last of Us Besides it’s the story / narrative in TLoU 2 I find awful, that’s it. Oh and it doesn’t help gaming journalists licking NDs arse while they shit on Days Gone, they had beef with the game since it was first showed off.
"but I'll be moving to Chicago once COVID calms down." Yeah good luck with the calming down part.
Days Gone is so much fun. I'm a casual video game player who probably doesn't have nearly the expectation as seasoned veterans do in a game, but I have played the game four or five times through since I bought it less than a year ago. It's such a blast to kill hordes. I mostly play Madden and MLB the Show, but every once in a while I find a non-sports game that captivates me. I absolutely loved Assassin's Creed Black Flag. I played the original Red Dead Revolver all the time when it first came out and Red Dead Redemption 1 & 2 are mind-blowingly good. Red Dead Redemption 2 was probably the game I was most excited for while I waited for it to come out, but now I think Days Gone 2 will surpass that excitement. There are so many ways they can go to further the story. Obviously the end with O'Brien will be a key storyline, but I'm guessing they're also going to have Captain Kouri show up again. One of the biggest mistakes I think they made was not including bigfoot. That part of the Pacific Northwest has a rich history in Sasquatch sightings including some around Crater Lake and it would have been a natural and smooth storyline to follow. They missed a huge opportunity to make the game even more fun. It would have been awesome to occasionally spot one in the game. Maybe even have a storyline where someone is kidnapped by one and you have to track it. Imagine coming across an infected Sasquatch?!?! Hopefully they will explore that storyline in part two.
Damn Days Gone was one of the best games i played.
Tht talent will nost likely land somewhere. Hmmm...
Hopefully the one guy who is moving to Chicago can create a new video game studio in the city, because we can always use more game studios.
Such an underated gem. Sad to see these guys leave.
The story was a breath of fresh air.
I still hope a sequel is in the works. I really REALLY loved this game. Spent about 170 hours in it all up.
any chance that it will be released on ps5?
I still have yet to beat this game, I really have tried a few times but the voice acting is soooooooo bland. It really puts me to sleep. Maybe since there is the PS5 game drought after I plat watch dogs legion & spiderman I may be able to touch my PS4 backlog. this, TLOU2 & Ghosts Of Tsushima are on top of that backlog
Never played it on the PS4 but man on the PS5 the game is gorgeous.
No one lives forever and you have to experience retirement at one point to really get the most out of what life you have left without being bogged down by a career. Perhaps the untimely death of Days Gone star role was a wake-up call they'd been spending too much time away from their families. Amy Hennig left Naughty Dog for the same reason. You've gotta have time to be a grandparent as well. All the baseball, soccer, hockey, etc. games and events you missed slaving away at a desk on a computer lining some other man's pockets while life's memories and relationships slip into the void, or the time to start relationships. Some people don't have the time to socialize and get married or have those kinds of relationships because their job consumes all their time. People don't always leave development studios under the shady guise of defecting to Microsoft Studios or whatever, they just realise they haven't really lived, that they haven't been able to be the father or mother they wanted or should have been, Rick Moranis is a prime example.
It sold very good, so this cant be the problem. It would be good to know, why they really left.
Hopefully they go on and do more incredible games! Only started playing Days Gone recently and I'm enjoying it.
nice too see all the positive posts! I';ve gotten the game from the PS5 collection, will give it a shot :)
people leaving studios is part of the business for devs. good luck to them wherever they may go.
Great game and would love a sequel Hated the main character tho
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