PS Plus is the only way to back up PS5 save games, no USB save exports

If you buy a PlayStation 5, you'll want to also get PS Plus. It's the only way to safely back up your next-gen game save files.

[RazzerRedux]

Just confirmed it on the PS site.

Click -> Types of Storage and Savable Data
https://www.playstation.com...

This is beyond stupid. Such a simple feature to have. Why leave it out?

[darthv72]

I don't have + and I prob wont but they should let you have free cloud saves like MS (now) does. I guess I will be using a flash drive to backup my game saves.

[darthv72]

^PS4 game saves....

[UnSelf]

It’s the year 2020. Internet, subs and consoles all go hand in hand. You shouldn’t be investing in brand new, cutting edge game machines if you can’t afford or have a problem with their contiguous subscriptions.

Clearly you have bigger problems to worry about in life if 10 dollars a month is a big deal for you.

Lemme guess, you also want to make calls on an iPhone 12 without a cellular plan.

Get with the times or dust off your ps2

[RazzerRedux]

Bullshit. I shouldn't have to pay for a subscription to back up my game saves.

"Lemme guess, you also want to make calls on an iPhone 12 without a cellular plan."

That is an idiotic comparison. Just stop.

[jahcure]

@UnSelf
"Lemme guess, you also want to make calls on an iPhone 12 without a cellular plan."

you can though...wifi calling. But i get your point.

[SegaGamer]

I game on a pc and don't have to put up with any of that crap. Free online gameplay and I can backup all of my saves to a usb pen drive and play any game you can throw at it.......all without a subscription. Are you going say my pc isn't a cutting edge gaming machine?

[CaptainHenry916]

Wow Sony is making you join PS+ to save PS5 save games 🤔🤔

[StoneyYoshi]

No... It's Just cloud save back ups that require PS+. Game saves are on the system like normal so please don't try spinning this into something its not. Unless you need to move your saves to another PS5 then this shouldn't be a concern IMO. And if you have a second PS5 then why aren't you paying for PS+ but you can manage to afford 2 PS5's

Another solution to this concern is that you can probably move the saves to your expansion SSD (once they are available) and if you did have a system fail on you, you can just put the expansion SSD into the replacement and all the saves are still safe.

[aconnellan]

@Stoney

So if your console bricks, that’s it? Can’t redeem progress on a new console unless you have PS+?

[RazzerRedux]

@StoneyYoshi

I don't subscribe to PS Plus as I game primarily on PC. So what am I supposed to do if/when PS5 Pro comes out? Oh well.....sucks but your old game saves are stuck on your old console because you don't pay Sony's subscription? To hell with that.

"Another solution to this concern is that you can probably move the saves to your expansion SSD"

Or just enable saves to USB like you could on PS4. There is no need to overthink this. This problem already has a solution that has been in place for years.

And to be frank, it is bullshit to put cloud saves behind a paywall at all. Somehow Steam and Microsoft manage to allow this feature, but Sony is being stubborn. They need to change this entirely.

[MrNinosan]

@RazzerRedux

In your scenario you can actually move the save files from one PS5 to another PS5 over WiFi or Ethernet, so no worries there.

[RazzerRedux]

@MrNinosan

What if I'm trading it in?

[jahcure]

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[Zeref]

Still wild that you need to pay for cloud saves

[meatnormous]

Some people like to take their saves and use a save modifier to give them things in games. Dark Souls 3 players were using programs to give them builds without grinding for them. The highwall of lothric is full of twinks.

[Z501]

Forcing PS+ (if you want back ups) is lame.

[deadfrag]

This is very lame... Sony wants to force people to pay for PS+.. the greed! On the other hand Microsoft offers free storage in the cloud!

[darthv72]

MS didnt before. In fact if you have a 360, you cant transfer your save to the cloud (to play on xbo) unless you have an active Gold membership. Oddly though, on the XBO you can be a silver member and have your saves backed up to the cloud... go figure.

[aconnellan]

You’re not wrong, but I feel like that’s the point - we’re dealing with a 360/PS3-era issue here on the PS5

[Bladesfist]

Valve also offer free storage for game saves with Steam.

[kryteris]

same with steam or any modern gaming platform. this is unacceptable.

[P_Bomb]

Oh, no. That’s not cool. I use a flash drive to backup and/or move my kids’ saves from one PS4 to another. I’ll add this to my firmware wishlist, beside wishlist.

[StoneyYoshi]

Wishlist's exist on the PS5 store. Just not on the phone app for some odd reason.

[P_Bomb]

Oh they are on the PS5 store? Awesome, thx for the update! I don’t have a 5 yet. Been living vicariously through my phone, lol.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

But the PS wishlist sucks, you can only add a 100 games and that's it (unless it's different for the PS5? I don't own one yet so I don't know).

[MrNinosan]

If you have 2 PS5’s, you can still copy/move rhe save files over WiFi/Ethernet.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I didn't know you could do this, I thought the PS4 phased out moving save files to USB sticks.

[Nyxus]

That sucks, they need to fix this with an update.

[Nd1vhu]

Add it to the list.

[akaFullMetal]

They need to update this!!!! Shouldn't be a reason to not be able to back up to USB.

[1nsomniac]

The PS5 OS is an absolute car crash at the moment. Hurry up and fix it already Sony!

[quenomamen]

Sony learning those MS tricks

[Nd1vhu]

MS doesn't hide this feature behind a pay wall. Unless you want to talk about 2 generations ago MS.

[SmokinAces]

This wont be hidden behind a pay wall either it will be fixed with a patch so relax.

[SmokinAces]

This will be patched soon enough but in the mean time why dont we all outrage about it.

[Nd1vhu]

Along with the other problems right? Next update.

[SmokinAces]

I would assume, that is what update patches are for on any console after all.

[MrNinosan]

While at it?
I’ve got a Series X, but can’t find a way to connect my Bluetooth Headset, will there be a patch?
Also, I have to pay for Gold to play Free To Play online games, why is that, never did on my PS4, will it be patched?

[RazzerRedux]

Where did Sony say this "will be patched soon enough"?

[SmokinAces]

I didn't say they did but common sense would lead one to believe they will.

[RazzerRedux]

"....common sense would lead one to believe they will."

Maybe a little "outrage" will help them do just that.

[SmokinAces]

If it were only ever a "little".

[JokerBoy422]

Fuck this! Are you kidding me?!

[Charlieboy333]

Yet...

[Hawk198666]

Old news

[DarkZane]

This is old news and it will likely be added with a firmware update later on anyway.

[whitbyfox]

Why the hell would you get a PS5 and not get PS Plus?

[MrNinosan]

This is old new, but as I did the same misstake as seven years ago, I found far bigger problems.

I bought Series X, but can’t find a way to connect my BT Headset. Can anyone guide me?
Also, the kids want to play Fortnite and other free online games, but they can’t play because those free games are locked behind a paywall. Is that right?

Now they have to play those games on PS4 which wasn’t the point when I bought a Next Gen to the kids.

Just like Sony who will probably patch this very soon, I assume MS will do the same thing aswell right? Not charge us for using free games, and let us use our own BT headsets?

[Sayai jin]

Wow

[OpenGL]

This is a dumb change but I'll live.

[Chocoburger]

Sony is most likely doing this to avoid having their console get hacked since save files can be a method of homebrew injection, but taking away standardized gaming rights is specifically what sets people off towards piracy.

Nintendo was the first to do this with cloud storage as the only official method of backing up save files, and its not free. MS offers free cloud storage, why can't billion dollar companies like Nintendo and Sony as well?

One of the main reasons I decided to go with Switch homebrew is specifically because of Nintendo being assholes about save files. Unacceptable for both Sony and Nintendo, it should have been there launch day, not available on a later firmware.

[lellkay]

Wait for real?