PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X Load Times Comparison or Next-Gen Load Times Comparison

In this video, we test the loading speeds on Xbox Series X and PS5 with a handful of backwards-compatible games.

[RaidenBlack]

So ... both are in back compat mode ... or is there any discrepancy in versions?
So Velocity Architecture even with lower bandwidth, triumphed?

[Jin_Sakai]

I’d like to see games that take full advantage of the SSD. That’s when things should get interesting.

[darthv72]

Then they should revisit this topic in two years. By then they should both be in full swing on 9th gen games only.

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@thrust

I wouldnt really count seconds in destiny when travelling to specific destinations because those have to do matchmaking as well, the very first load or going back to orbit are a more appropriate metric though

[bouzebbal]

Let's see if PS5 games day one patch changes anything. So far 1-0 for xbox

[Kingthrash360]

Yall do realize Back compatible doesn't utilize velocity or one's oi.

Real tests will only show results with next generation games

[NeoGamer232]

The interesting thing here is that although the XB Series has a slower throughput by several multipliers, its actually performing faster for BC stuff.

Now that has nothing to do with performance when a game is using the SSD as a true next gen game, but this does show that the performance "secret sauce" many people have talked about on PS5, at least in this case is not all that much better. In fact, in this video it was consistently slower from next to nothing slower to many seconds.

[darthv72]

I dont think back compat games even use the VA feature.

[RaidenBlack]

Yea ... true.
I just used the VA term to refer to XSX's SSD.

[JohnJ]

Oh yea that’s right - could it be just raw muscle then?

[Bruh]

They don't only games optimized to the Series X take advantage of it, both of these are just raw SSD speeds

[UnSelf]

As a Sony fan I vow not to find excuses to the slower start times.

I also vow not to invoke a desperate attempt to change the narrative to make my company seem more favorable.

Other Sony fans in here should do the same.

[Kerppamaister]

This guy deserves a meal. A medal? Both.

[Saigon]

Yeah but at the same time these are last generation games and if I am not mistaken only one company built their arcitecture to allow them to take advantage. But I do get what you are saying!

In all honesty, I want to see the results when a 9th generation game is put to test, such as AC: Valhalla!!!

[Jericho1337]

Fantastic comment - wish we had more humble opinions like this on here.

[Army_of_Darkness]

Looks like serious x wins fastest loading for old games. 😎 Bro... Next gen games appear to be almost instant loading from the previews we've seen so far, in which case is what interests me the most cause that's what I'll be playing 95% of the time.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Meh this gen hasn't started yet. 3rd party games will take full advantage of the SSD's though they'll roughly be the same. Their exclusives like Miles Morales on PS5 is near instant. So I expect Sony and MS exlusive games to take full advantage of the hardware as they inevitably will.

2013 and 14 it was resolution comparisons. Now it's SSD none of this will matter later hell it doesn't even matter now imo considering we are leaving long load times in the past finally.

[EasilyTheBest]

Wow Unself. Comment of the day right there..

[oof46]

Commendable. It's really, really hard to have a civil discussion about the pros and cons of the Series X and ps5 without all the fanboying. Big ups, Unself.

[yeahokwhatever]

you're supposed to masturbate in private.

[Popsicle]

I agree. I didn't have an Xbox last gen, and will say that so far it appears the Series X is the best place to play last gen games.

[CaptainObvious878]

As an avid Sony fan that doesn't blindly defend them, I agree with this comment.

It makes me realise how optimising BC games can make quite a big diffence.

This confirms my decision to wait for a next gen patch for Cyberpunk before playing a single second of it. A game like Cyberpunk deserves to be played on next gen systems with their features taken advantage of.

[gintoki777]

My company.... so lame

[porkChop]

@UnSelf

Thank you. We need more people like you.

[outsider1624]

Have an upvote my friend, have an upvote.

[CyrusLemont]

I suspect the PS5’s SSD is actually too fast for old games’ loading so its max speed is emulated for backwards compatibility until a more effective solution is found, possibly through developer software updates.

[DJStotty]

"too fast for old games’ loading"

Just when you thought you had heard everything.....

[alb1899]

Hahahaha you guys get very creative hahaha!

[CaptainHenry916]

It just depends on the game that's optimized for the SSD. I just saw Demon Souls loading under 5 seconds in every part of the game on Twitter. Rachet and Clank will do the same

[Popsicle]

I’m too fast to run a 4.2 second 40. As a result, I usually clock in at 6 seconds.

[1Victor]

@djs I seen worse here like the secret chip on Xbox one and the power of the cloud that would make it 10X faster.

About this test I’ll wait for the games designed to take full advantage of the system and have those comparisons, but in this instance xbsx win

[CyrusLemont]

@all the disagrees lol definitely not trying to be a Sony fanboy here was just speculating as all the information we know about the hardware says it should load data twice as fast as the Series X’s SSD. Did not articulate what I mean well but at Cerny’s PS5 tech conference he mentioned that such high speeds required new control chips and I wonder if PS4 emulation can’t recognise SSD drives as fast as the PS5 so the drive speed itself is emulated to prevent any major bugs in back compat thus making it slower than the Xbox? If my logic here is flawed I’m sorry lol

[TheProblem]

They don’t mention if they have installed ps5’s day one system update.

Nxgamer showed a significant loading difference in astros playroom after the day one update had been installed

[Grievous]

Astro's Playroom is developed for the PS5. All the games tested here are not PS5 games but PS4 games running in BC mode. They are not designed to make use of the PS5's hardware and Microsofts BC solution is better.

[TheProblem]

@grivous

That has nothing to do with the fact the firmware update reduces the cpu calls among other things and improves the loading times 3 fold

If they don’t have the firmware update installed this comparison is moot

[CruseMissle]

They made it sound like Velocity doesn’t now work on games that aren’t optimized for it

[AngelicIceDiamond]

They're actually not using Velocity here for Xbox. VA has to be built from the ground up for X Series. So expect it in exclusive games but not so much in multiplats.

[Obscure_Observer]

Yes. Xbox Series X.

The Ultimate Next Gen Console and a true masterpiece.

The PS5 is also great, but the Series X is just a masterpiece. :)

[1Victor]

Keep observing quietly from the shadows

[RangerWalk267]

Valhalla and Dirt 5 loaded faster on ther XSX. Assassin's Creed was around 9 second difference. Dirt was 5 seconds faster.
They are both FAR better than this gen. It's really not a big deal in my opinion. Higher frames, fidelity, and features are what I care about the most. I'm buying both day one. It's kinda odd Sony spent so much effort to make the SSD what it is, it decided not to out more time and money into the other components. Such as CPU, GPU, and system memory bandwidth, and stable/ locked frequencies on the CPU and GPU.
I know Microsoft has some of the best Hardware engineers on the planet... But they continue to impress me once Phil took over. The fastest, most powerful console in the smaller console. Very impressive. Not gonna lie.

[cfir]

In my head this isn't a good test. Yes they are comparing the same game, but it's not the same code. We don't know what the differences are between the code bases. Would it not be a better test to compare the differences in load times between the same console families which are using the same code i.e. ps4 pro vs ps5, and XoX vs XsX. At least then you are comparing apples with apples.

[Zhipp]

Cpu has a lot to do with load speeds too. Tbh I've forgotten what (if any) the gap between Series X and ps5 is on that front. If it's significant that might explain this.

[Cueil]

none of these support VA

[Kaze88]

PS5 uses PS4 Pro BC settings when running PS4 games. XSX has it's own BC settings for all last gen games. Due to this XSX has overall better results and uses more of it's muscle when running old games.

[Atom666]

Yay! Let the months (years) of side by side comparisons commence! Ugh...

I think most of us fully expect frames and resolution to go in favor of XSX, but seeing faster load times was surprising. I would expect that should change once we get titles optimized for next gen. Interesting start though.

[Killer73nova]

Honestly I was expecting the ps5 ssd to blow the Xbox out of the water. Gears is fairly quick as well which has an updated path and we are seeing around 10sec to load up. I’m not to sure of the old time of the any ps5 exclusives like demon souls but right now it seems like ps5 is a weaker console all around. Let’s see how Xbox new exclusives will stack up in the coming years but this generation is gonna be amazing. I won’t buy a ps5 until next year since I’ve already played a lot of their games last gen and there isn’t much exclusives for them right now. Now with gamepass I still have a lot to play 😂

[UnHoly_One]

That's basically the same boat I'm in. I'll get a PS5 eventually, but honestly I only really need it for a couple exclusives, and all of those are going to be single player games anyway, so it's no rush to get one right away.

I don't care about Demons Souls and I'm not in any hurry to re-buy Spider Man so it's going to be quite awhile until anything comes along to tempt me. Horizon sequel will be the first one that I really want, but again, I can wait on that for awhile.

For how little I used my PS4 this gen compared to Xbox I just can't justify buying both at launch, it makes no sense at all to pay full price for something that is mostly just going to sit there.

[imtiyaz6]

For me, personally, I don’t have any use for the Xbox. It’s a good console but Sony has the better developers and the better games. Spending that much money on such a weak library isn’t good in this economy. PlayStation will come out with the better games as they have every generation and it won’t be close. Sony’s pedigree is unmatched. Wish MS were at Sony’s level.

[Magic_Spatula]

I've watched some videos of Spider-Man Miles Morales and it takes a little bit over 2 seconds to go from the main menu fully into the game. 2 second load times? That's super impressive. I think it's been noted by some tech Youtubers that the XSX brute forces loading with the CPU and SSD while games need to be patched to take advantage of the PS5's SSD. I'm also waiting about a year before getting both (gonna be the first time I buy and Xbox since the original 360). Still waiting on if the Switch Pro rumor is true or not.

[RazzerRedux]

Yep. I'm genuinely surprised even with last gen games. I'd expect PS5 to win this battle hands down. So far, Cerny's SSD isn't looking as good as it was billed.

[phoenixwing]

I'm surprised as well.

[Welshy]

As games become exclusively created for next gen and are built from the ground up around the SSD's we'll see how these results vary over the months and years to come.

I'm more of a PS guy, but fair play to the Series X, those are some impressive times on the BC mode.

[Ghostbob]

TLOU2 takes way longer to load on PS5 than on PS4. This seems to be a bc compatibility issue

[chiefJohn117]

I learned quickly not to listen to Cerny and use my own judgment

[garos82]

Lmao. Call me when xbox series x loads a detailed open world game with complex geometry and hundreds of NPCs in high detail in under 2 seconds! Good luck out there, it's gonna be a long generation for you

[East76lands]

Less than 2 seconds from menu to game on Miles M is fast enough, same speed with fast travel. Have a look at the latest DF video.

[lukasmain]

If anyone think these old games are using the full power of the SSD then you're crazy.

[Babadook7]

"So far, Cerny's SSD isn't looking as good as it was billed."

Check actual PS5 games. They are loading levels in about 2 seconds and that's significantly faster than anything XSX has shown.

[ziggurcat]

I don't think this is related to the SSD at all.

[DarXyde]

I'm withholding judgment. The evidence is currently on your side, but I imagine that if these games are properly updated to take advantage of the SSD, it's a different story—this is likely the case for both machines, but I think the PS5 SSD if taken to task will outperform Series X. An SSD in your PS4 doesn't help much, if at all. A similar principle very likely applies.

I'll wait on it.

[GamerRN]

It's Raw Speed was supposedly faster. Games don't need to be UPDATED. It should just be faster. Apparently, it isn't. Must be a bottleneck somewhere

[r2oB]

Isn’t there a video showing the Witcher 3 load in like 10 seconds for PS5 and like 26 seconds for the Series X? Last gen games are running emulated on both consoles, so there are bound to be games that run better on one or the other.

[MagUk]

None of them are using there new decompression architecture but the Xbox is designed to run at constant a speed. I’m not sure if the ps5 runs at it’s top speed constantly as ssd’s normally lose speed when they get hot.

[Kaze88]

XSX runs games on it's own BC mode, PS5 runs games on PS4 Pro mode. Only sony patched first party games run in PS5 BC. This is why some ps4/x0 games run better/steady framerate compared to XSX since it runs games lower/checkerboarding resolution instead of trying to play it in Native 1800p or 4k. Cudos to MS, their BC with load times and automatic HDR etc. is amazing.

[Sharky231]

I had to watch the video with the sound. Do they say if the ps5 had the day one update. From my understanding that is where they make the BC titles faster on the new hardware. I could be wrong though.

[Killer73nova]

They did say in the beginning that all games have been updated to their latest version

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@atom I was thinking the same thing I wanna see Next gen games optimized for these consoles only. I'm not goal posting by any means I'm just excited at the prospect of next gen even more now. Both X and PS5 will be great and a bigger leap than this gen.

[jznrpg]

I don’t care much about the side by side comparisons it will be the exclusive games that matter to me. I’m getting a PS5 no matter what they will have the games . In a few years I may consider the Xbox or upgrading my PC if I hadn’t yet but we’ll see .

[tomoros]

Yeah, I think the same

[DJStotty]

Queue the excuses.

So much for that blistering twice as fast architecture.

[mania568]

so you are saying twice the speed + no bottlenecks means more load times than xbox?
these games arent optimized for the SSD, heres a comparison NEW games on ps5 have loads below 10s, yet OLD games are almost a minute.
think that over for a second.

[rlow1]

Really, so the slower hard drive beats the faster one and your trying to spin it. They both were given the same game, same senario and the Xbox beat it. I'm sure games made from the ground up for the Xbox will load faster as well.

[mania568]

@rlow1 thats not realistic, 2x the speed means better results using the same framework, xbox has better optimiation process/program than ps5.
you will see no game on next gen loading faster on xboxX over ps5, this is not a guess, its a fact.
i wouldnt go too deep into your opinions right now when as soon as next week next gen games will be compared and xbox wont do better than ps5, i hope you werent one of the people saying 16% more teraflops will change everything while turning around and saying 100% faster ssd means less results.

[DJStotty]

There's the first excuse

"these games arent optimized for the SSD"

Next

Comparisons have absolutely nothing to do with being "optimised", this is sheer clean load speed direct from the Internal SSD.

[ABizzel1]

If you care to hear a true explanation and not here just for fanboying, then part of the reason is as @mania said.
The old games aren't all programmed for an SSD, but it also depends on game optimizations / dev tools, and the CPU.

These old games don't fully utilize an SSD and it's the same reason you can put a SSD in a PS4 or XBO and see bare minimal upgrades when the SSD is easily 10x faster than the HDD in the system. The games have to be optimized to run on the SSD, and the benefit Xbox has here is that its new developer tools utilize almost the exact same tools as PC engines for ease of compatibility, so the Xbox can easily load games as fast and faster than a gaming PC with an NVMe, and this obviously will help with backward compatible titles, meanwhile, PS5 is simply relying on RAW speed, architecture, and the hope that devs will go back and update this since they haven' made much of anything mandatory. Finally, the CPU on the Series X is clocked higher than the PS5, so it will load assets and general loading faster.

A perfect example here's another comparison where the PS5 wins in some old titles:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

We'll see more comparisons later, and we'll see next-gen comparisons as well. I want to see PS5 speed loading old games from an external SSD.

[chiefJohn117]

You trying to hard, hold this L homie

[DarXyde]

I think there's fundamental misunderstanding about optimization, and mania568 raises exactly the right point:

PS5 games have heavier textures at higher resolutions than PS4, and we see how long that takes (not long at all). Ratchet and Clank was pulling in tons of data alarmingly fast.

If I had to guess, Series X wil be slower for 2 reasons on next generation games made to take advantage of the SSDs of both consoles: Series X games are likely to have higher resolutions and more detailed textures, and the fact that it's just slower than PS5's SSD. That means it's going to pull in more data and the transfer rate is simply slower. Clearly, Series X is better able to handle backwards compatibility: it's built very well around that. But for games that are actually taking advantage of the hardware? I think you might be surprised. I might be wrong, but I seriously doubt that I am.

You can optimize games to have more efficient loading times—look at Bloodborne. The Series X clearly handles loading on backwards compatible titles better, but we really won't know about next generation consoles until, well, we know.

[TheTony316]

Watch Digital Foundrys Miles Morales video. lol.

[DJStotty]

What does that have to do with BC loading comparisons?

[SierraGuy]

Yeah and don't go hiding now djscotty.

LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

[Om4ever]

Trying to spin it again 😂
It's time to face reality guys

[outsider1624]

"What does that have to do with BC loading comparisons?"

Think for a sec, will ya. The ps5s SSD for spiderman was designed around that. Thats why the loading was superfast.
As for BC, it's common sense really that it isn't built around that. Nevertheless I'm still glad its still fast enough far more than the ps4's.

[NomadR3aper]

Exactly. Let's compare games built around both SSDs. My main reason for buying PS5 wasn't to play old games. But if it loads even 20 seconds faster. That's a win.

[S2Killinit]

So when we get actual games optimized for the SSDs then I assume you wont be commenting about excuses.

[DJStotty]

No i will probably be making them lmao...

[S2Killinit]

Lol well you are honest. I admire that.

[DiRtY]

Well, the SSD is the only hardware component that is faster when you compare PS5 to XSX. So it better have shorter loading times.

The differences might be tiny though. Like 7seconds compared to 10seconds or something.

The game might have lower resolution and less frames on PS5, because that’s when the better GPU, CPU and more memory bandwidth comes into play.

In this first comparison though, the PS5 couldn’t keep up. Just a fact.

[RangerWalk267]

@nomadR3aper

Valhalla and Dirt 5 are both designed with the SSD in the X and PS5 in mind. The X was faster on both. Less than 10 second difference tho.

[S2Killinit]

@Dirty
Also on the PS5 the SSD speed will lead to more complex worlds than the xbox series X. Because the assets can be pulled right off the SSD.

[xetiro]

@DJStotty
"Comparisons have absolutely nothing to do with being "optimised", this is sheer clean load speed direct from the Internal SSD."

Think about what you're saying for a moment. How these could have be "clean load speed direct from the Internal SSD" and the slower one being slightly faster than the fastest one?

This is clearly a misleading comparison because these are old-gen games that had a bunch of old-gen optimizations on the storage system, being loaded on new systems. PS5 is loading the PS4 Pro version and XSX is loading the XOX version. Clearly, the back-compatibility works better on XSX in terms of loading a XOX game.

Take the example of the SpiderMan Miles Morales, a PS5 game being loaded on a PS5 system. Takes only 10 seconds from cold boot, and after that there are no more loadings.

[DJStotty]

It was a response claiming these titles have been "optimized" for the Series X.

False.

Direct comparisons running of each consoles individual architecture.

I do not know what is so difficult for some people to understand about that statement.

Again Miles Morales has nothing to do with BC games.

[Aussieguy]

Maybe wait until real ps5 multiplat games are released before comparing backwards compatible ps4 games to see load times lol.

[solideagle]

no excuse there bro, I am super excited for faster loads but some of them are still long loads for BC titles. I wonder about XCOM 2 loading, I quitted the game because of long load times on PS4. I am very surprised by these results maybe XSX has some secret loading sauce which is missing from PS5?

[The-Matrix-has-you]

It’s actually hilarious watching all you Xbox fanboys claim a victory before the consoles are even released. Seriously all you guys talk about is backwards compatibility. Wait until ACTUAL next gen games come out on both consoles and then we will revisit this scenario. These previous gen games are designed around previous gen I\O throughout, for example “lanes of priority”. Its a lot more complicated than Velocity Architecture this and that. Just chill out people and be patient. Enjoy games. This toxicity is ridiculous.

[chiefJohn117]

The excuses are funnier tho

[The-Matrix-has-you]

@chiefJohn117

Actually it’s more defense since you clowns always jump the gun and run with the first comparison/ rumor you get, regardless of its significance. It’s childish at best. Oh and saying “Excuses EXCUSES” really? Please tell me you have something better than that?

[oof46]

"Actually it’s more defense since you clowns always jump the gun and run with the first comparison/ rumor you get, regardless of its significance."

Remember all the Series X overheating rumors and all the bashing from Sony fanboys? It's a two way street.

[imtiyaz6]

They keep talking about BC games like they even had any games to play last Gen.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Desert girl from Epics tech demo was running on PS5 with its custom built SSD. So it's still blistering fast. So far next gen seems to be dancing around BC too much this time around I wanna see real next gen gaming.

[lukasmain]

This comment is not going to age well. This page will be bookmarked. For when next-gen multiplats start coming out.

[lukasmain]

WOW. If you think these old games are using the full power of Sony's SSD then you're ridiculous.

[imtiyaz6]

Anyone noticing a spike in MS accounts around here? Do you think we’re dealing with bots to change the narrative?

[mark3214uk]

remember this comment when they show some next gen games that are optimized for the ssd's

[rlow1]

Wow, the series X beats the PS5 every single time. Some of the games by alot. I guess that extra speed in this scenario doesn't help.

[AnotherGamer]

You have to keep in mind, they're playing old gen games and some are not optimized for the ps5, while the xbox series X put lot of effort into their backwards comp-ability.

[DJStotty]

False,

None of the games shown are optimized for Series X (barring Destiny 2), here is the list :-

https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/...

Edit : they are running directly off the power of the consoles using their respective architectures. Just seems the Series X is better at BC.

[Saigon]

@DJStotty

Its the architecture not the game itself that is built to take advantage. I assume once they are optimized on the XBSX/XBSS then we will see even more faster times. But as I stated before, I rather see New Gen games working on these systems to compare rather than old generation games. This video didn't show me anything.

[outsider1624]

Dj Snotty

Wasn't there an article where MS has been testing all BC games for 500000 hours or something like that.

[DJStotty]

Yes that's right insider1624

Testing that your software runs the BC games with no issues is not optimization is it now?

the xbox's series s and x architecture improve games with no optimization required.

It's just stronger software that is all.

[RangerWalk267]

@ AnotherGamer

There are comparisons with Dirt 5, Valhalla, NBA 2k, Devil May Cry, and Watchdog Legion all loaded faster on the XSX

All of those games I listened have been optimized and are using all the tools available with both next gen hardware.

[Ghostbob]

The witcher 3 load a lot faster on ps5 then the x as I said it's a bc issue TLOU2 takes way longer to load on PS5 than on PS4.

[SmokinAces]

"Every single time", its almost like gamespot cherry picked the ones that do.

[outsider1624]

This is whwt doesn't make sense at all. If you look at the speed of the ssd on paper...it dwarfs the series x's.

Are BC more well optimised on the series x than on PS5 or what? Anyone here with that knows tech?

[Sonyslave3]

Wow some of these games xsx is smoking the ps5 super fast Ssd 🙄

[Gardenia]

These are old games not made for SSD while MS spend a lot of time and money on a BC mode. Even without Playstation having a special BC mode it still runs almost as fast as Xbox games. Most of the time it's only a few seconds difference.
That just shows how fast PS5 actually is.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

Confirmed now that the PS5 doesn't have Quick Resume as well: skip to 5:17 https://youtu.be/F67jxeRSod... When you use the Switcher feature, it's always from a cold boot of the game but the load times are fast.

[oof46]

@LucasRuinedChildhood: Something cool I learned from ACG's review that I hadn't heard anywhere else: Quick Resume also works on games running off of an external.

[maybelovehate]

Interesting. This was supposed to be the one thing Sony did right.

[TheTony316]

Miles morales loads in 1,3 seconds from the main menu to ingame. So yeah, they did.

[maybelovehate]

Is that the game the game everyone is finishing in one day?

[Bathyj]

You mean besides games right?

[CaptainHenry916]

Hmm I just heard on Twitter from a source that Demon Souls loads under 5 seconds in every part of the game on PS5. I have to see it to believe it. If true the SSD is impressive and will definitely be a game changer especially for a Souls game

[Zhipp]

After I upgraded to a 4.5GB/s nvme my load times in Sekiro dropped to the 5-7 second range when returning from death, so I absolutely believe PS5 can pull off 5s load speeds in DS:R. It really does make the whole experience far less frustrating.

[imtiyaz6]

Like do you guys even have any games to play except old ones, considering how terrible Xbone’s library is, I wouldn’t even be excited about that either

[maybelovehate]

I am a PC gamer personally. But never had a shortage of games. Backlog is getting a bit overwhelming. Part of that reason is games on PC are usually created to last us more than 1 day.

[Wrex369]

I agree honestly all I kept hearing was how fast this SSD was going to be and how it was going to act as if it was ram like what's going on

[CaptainHenry916]

Old games lol from last generation that don't take full advantage of the SSD. I wanna see Rachet & Clank load speeds

[Manic2014]

It’s still a valid comparison. The load times will reflect on next gen only games. It’s not as if PS5 can only load faster next gen games compared to XSX.

[CaptainHenry916]

Fair enough. They should revisit this topic in one year. To early to really compare now. Heck the consoles SSD is faster than PCs SSD at the moment

[DaveZero]

Then you would have to take exactly the same games into account a d clock both platforms speeds that are created for next gen like Bethesda games perhaps??? Oh wait might not be able to do that on ps5, shame.

[Greg2801]

I mean we all know that Xbox serie x is the better console when it comes to old games...

[PitbullMonster]

Did you watched the Digital Foundry Video?
A little spoiler, PS5 rock solid 60fps, XSX up to 60FPS.

[starsi360]

Are you talking about that single game, Sekiro, that the ps5 is checkerbording where as the series X is native? If so, why wouldn’t you think the console that is using checkerbording is able to achieve a higher FPS? In all other ways the xbox seems to be in front in terms of performance and load times....

[outsider1624]

Lmao!! And they're cheer leading for that.

[DaveZero]

Current and New with way better infrastructure, much less downtime. Do you ever wonder why sony started to have so many single player games on its consoles, because there multiplayer sucked way back on ps3 and followed somewhat onto ps4.

Stick to your exclusives of a single player game with limited replay ability if no DLC arrives, while the vast multiplayer world and xbox is the place to be.

Seriously just enjoy what we all goin for.

All I here from a sony fanboys mouth is we got exclusives, and hardware isnt important. On ps3 you all shouted hardware was important, on ps4 for first two years it was hardware important because of nothing but remasteres. Then and heres the kicker soon as exclusives got released and along came the xbox one X, it all changed with you fanboys to games were important and if you do not believe me on this site start checking that far back in dates I'll put a bet on it, the never ending circle because this is mainly a Sony loving site.

[SmokinAces]

I think you meant, hear not "here" but I digress. I never understand people who post these rant posts and call out fanboys while they're entire comment is clearly the stuff of fanboying. Do you ever wonder why Sony outsold MS in the console space this gen? People have always said exclusives matter on Playstation that's never changed and that's becasue they do and its proven that it makes the difference like it or not that's clearly evident by who sold more consoles this generation. I imagine it will be the deciding factor for the upcoming generation as well and not which console loads old games the fastest.

[mechethegoat]

It's probably sonys bc thats not as polished but hey. Only time will tell.

[nickanasty206]

Wow, i really didn't expect this. Microsoft have done well with back compat mode at least. Impressive. Regardless we are in for a treat with both consoles.

[Melankolis]

They have the best minds in software-skill department i have to admit. Their back-compat is a wizardry.

[TheTony316]

Spiderman loads in less than 6 seconds from a cold boot to ingame.

[CaptainHenry916]

That's because it's taking full advantage of the SSD and its optimized for it.

[starsi360]

It takes 7 seconds from cold boot to title screen.

Which is still impressive - but not 6 seconds from cold boot to in game as you mentioned

[sealava]

if these were smartphones everyone would be bashing the PS5 ;)

[Silly gameAr]

Oh, it's gamespot again. Do people still find this site credible?

[thrust]

They have video clips you can see for yourself 🤣

[SmokinAces]

Are video clips incapable of being manipulated?

[Teflon02]

I could have told ya Xbox was going to beat it on BC, swear Cerny already said older games won't take complete advantage of the stuff. I would expect if that ran as good as Xbox it would be because of a future update.

It's the new gen games I want to see lol

[PitbullMonster]

Go and watch the Digital Foundry Video.

[starsi360]

Why? So we can see that ps5 rendering one game using a checkerbording method can run slightly faster than a native resolution version on Series X? You’re clutching at straws! The series x is the more powerful machine all round, it’s not up for debate ... it’s a fact!

[xetiro]

This comparison is completely misleading.

1) The PS5 boots the PS4 Pro version of the game;
2) The XSX boots the XOX version the the game.
3) These games were optimized differently on their original platforms in terms of storage system.
4) These games run on the new systems through back-compatibility.

A more meaningful comparison would be comparing multi-platform games optimized and compiled for the new systems. A PS5 system loading a PS5 version and a XSX system loading a XSX version. That will be interesting...

[_Decadent_Descent]

Not just interesting. Really the only legit comparison.

[Kavorklestein]

I think what you mean is MS's skill and passion for BC means they are better at making BC games run well or flawlessly whether by chance or design, the console is able to do good things to most games it touches.

[AnotherGamer]

That makes sense honestly. Doesn't old ps4 games need that ps5 optimization update for them to run bit better? I know thta AC Unity needs at least a new patch to work well on ps5.

[isarai]

That's cool but it's not really backwards compatible games i'm interested in, it's the next gen games. Which have already shown some impressive load times, or lack thereof.

[Asuka]

Narrative before: "It's 2x faster. period."

Narrative now: "Well it'll be faster some of the time, but only if..."

honestly its fractions of and up to a few seconds difference. who gives a shit jfc

[SmokinAces]

Well we had three examples of old games not fully utilizing the new SSD here so I guess we can all make an informed decision about it thanks to gamespot.

[Einhander1971]

Here we go again, all this silly comparisons again. Just enjoy the damn games.

[Zeke68]

Redo this test after PS5 got it's day one firmware too.... They already stated on the blog that it will recieve a day one systemsoftware update.

[StoneyYoshi]

I believe that day 1 firmware update is already available for the reviewers (Greg Miller updated the firmware on his PS5 the day he received the system.) or else the reviews wouldn't be out yet. It's still a Day 1 firmware update for us consumers but not for reviewers. I could be wrong though.

[Zeke68]

IF so, I'm fine with this test. Just want it to be what we all can expect Day 1.
Days Gone was shred to pieces because reviewers didn't use Day One patch that fixed 98% of their complaints,so I got burned on opinions then.. 🤔

[Om4ever]

Ouch !!!! Poor Sony 😥

[SierraGuy]

Ouch? 🤣 Have you seen all the bc sony videos posted today upping original frame rates from 30 to a solid 60 fps with ease?

Sony doing bc better.

Ouch!!! Poor xbox 😭

[starsi360]

Sony doing BC better? 😂😂

This guy!

Maybe if they added support for 2 more generations, upped a load of THOSE games to 4K with Auto HDR and enhanced textures, then maybe they could start getting closer....

[kingboy]

its loads and play's games slightly faster ,just old ones lol

[thesoftware730]

All of a sudden BC is means nothing...lol.

It is a feature of both system, Sony finds it important as they are even giving you PS4 classics as incentive.

While its not such a huge deal, its still surprising as the SSD was a big deal from the start, the gams are not optimized for either system and the PS5 lost and btw..a lot of people will be playing BC games on both systems so theres that.

[xetiro]

What's the fuzz anyway? Aren't all of these games just current-gen games designed for HDD on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X being executed on PS5 and Xbox Series X through BC?

Then, unless these games are patched, there are absolutely no advantage of both the PS5 SSD and the XSX SSD in this comparison other than the elimination of the typical Seek Times of the HDDs.

Which means that what you are seeing is not PS5 Loading vs XSX Loading, its literally PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X loadings minus the total of the seek times. That's why is faster but its also exactly proportionally faster.

[_Decadent_Descent]

This.

[blacktiger]

Nothing new, more processor always win. But I'm never bothered with load times, vs ssd speed is very too important! So let's see what the advantages are

[marison]

I think I got it about the PS5 SSD be slower at backward compatibility

The PS5 SSD could load the game before you even download it or think about buying it, so they put a lock on max speed.

Imagine you enter the game for the first time and as soon as you press Start PS5 load the second stage. You will never play the first one.

Sony is smart. I'm not.

This is a joke, people!

[Anghellic]

and you idiots thought ps5 had the better SSD 😆

[xetiro]

Indeed the PS5 has a better SSD. It’s just factual.

These are just PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X loadings through BC on the PS5 and XSX, without the seek times of the HDD.

Otherwise how can you explain that while faster than the current consoles all those loadings are still very slow for PS5 and XSX standards?

[StoneyYoshi]

Don't even try bud... They ignore any factual evidence even if it punched them in the face. I mean, we can already see how fast Miles Morales loads from the home screen (4 seconds according to DF) and from the main menu to gameplay. (1.7s according to DF)

How can someone look at those load times from a PS5 game and then come back to these BC games and really think that the SSD in the PS5 is a joke? This is because it doesn't benefit them with what they are bragging about.

[_Decadent_Descent]

And you're the bigger idiot who doesn't grasp the context of the comparison video or the tech in any of the systems, yet wants to parade around like he does.

[goldwyncq]

The takeaway here (at least so far),

For exclusives, get a PS5

For third party multiplat games and backwards compatibility, get an Xbox

[Kavorklestein]

And to save money and always have tons to play, get Gamepass.

[Ghostbob]

TLOU2 takes way longer to load on PS5 than on PS4. This seems to be a compatibility issue and not a CPU limitation.

[chiefJohn117]

So much much for Sonys faster ssd, looks like Xbox VA is superior at loading. XSX straight up Doo doo'd on ps5. Some games wasn't even close this is surprising FR

[Artemidorus]

Clear winner but would be good to know ways of improving both.

[Ghostbob]

Some games load faster on PS5 than Xbox Series X :

Witcher 3
PS5 ~ 10.13 seconds
XSX ~ 26.06 seconds

Yakuza
PS5 ~ 4.18 seconds
XSX ~ 6.14 seconds

PS4 pro version of the games load slower than Xbox One X version

Here's an example,

FFXV ~ 3 min to 1.1 min on PS5
- PS5 SSD cuts 90 sec from loading times

FFXV ~ 1.5 min to 0.48 on XSX
- XSX SSD cuts 60 sec from loading times

[StoneyYoshi]

Thats a very fair point! Most people here don't realize that both the PS4 and XBO manage their game files differently which explains why we are seeing these differences on the new consoles. Something I also noticed in this video is the fact that the XSX actually boots into the games a second or so faster. To actually test how fast the actual game its self loads, we should be counting from the moment the screen goes black rather than when selecting the game to play.

Looking at the RDR2 comparison in this video, on PS5 there is a solid 4-5 seconds before the game actually launches to the splash screens but the game still manages to only be a second slower with getting into the game. So if you subtract the 4-5 seconds from that and the 2.5-3 seconds that it takes the XSX to actually launch to the black screen, the PS5 ends up coming on top by a second or so with the loading time.

[SmokinAces]

Weird how gamepsot didn't include either of those in this comparison for some reason.

[chiefJohn117]

Gotta give MS credit they Destroyed Sony on every level hardware wise. This was supposed be the one thing Sony did better and it turns out not to. I think it's the cpu I remember a few was trying to say ps5 ssd wouldn't be much of an advantage cause Xbox superior cpu. Seriously ps5 look last gen by comparison right now. Cerny better tell us something

[SmokinAces]

Yeah your comment doesn't seem like trolling at all. Every level hardware wise huh? Well lets see here pretty sure the controller is hardware and we have heard nothing but glowing reviews about the Dualsense by everyone who goes hands on with it, not so much about the barley changed series x controller. DemonSouls looks next gen, Rachet & Clank looks next gen, Mile Morales looks next gen, what has Microsoft shown us that looks next gen?

[chiefJohn117]

Dualsense is a great controller but it's not really any better. The reason it's getting so much praise is because ps4 control was crap and ps3 controller even worse and now Sony finally closed the gap of Xbox controllers being so much better. Something going from 6/10 to a 9/10 will get more praise than something going from 8.8/10 to a 9/10 as the former is a bigger leap.
So a ps3 game, an expansion, both available on ps4 and cartoon game without a release date, sure bud. To each their own but I'm not so easily impressed
medium looks next Gen, hell blade 2 and Avowed, plus halo is open world with 120fps and plans of 48 vs 48 aka true next Gen gameplay.

[SmokinAces]

"Not really any better", LOL good stuff. The reason its getting praise is becasue its amazing, your excuses dont change that. Sony delivered a true next gen controller and were wise to do so and its paying off.

No "bud" an insane looking remake of a hugely popular and beloved game, a stand alone game based on one of the highest rated games of the current gen that looks absolutely incredible and loads before you can blink and you calling Rachet & Clank a "cartoon game" tells me everything I need to know, lol.

The medium is multiplat, we've seen nothing of Hellblade gameplay, halo? the game they had to delay becasue of how it looked and are having nothing but problems with game management with people leaving left and right. I was hoping you could suggest something beyond mutiplts, in engine cut scenes and "plans". Nothing you've said proves MS destroyed anyone and just comes off as desperate trolling, both systems have pros and cons so just stop with the nonsense.

FYI, MAG on PS3 had up to 256 players at the same time, "true next gen gameplay" happened a long time ago.

[Azfargh]

Guys, Xbox uses an traditional SSD architecture VS PS5 using an unconventional storage route and reading for that double fast data transfer. The heck guys... anyone here didn't watched Cernys presentation about PS5 achitecture? Geez...

[Weapon_of_choice]

Lol!! Clutching at straws them xbox boys😆🤣

[iplay1up2]

It is refreshing to see Playstation only gamers admitting they were wrong. Both next Gen consoles will be fantastic. Series X, just has a little more speed.

We all saw it on paper. Series X, has better specs. I expect both systems will have similar load times, in a few months.

[TheDibbler]

I think the difference you are seeing in the BC load times isn't due to the SSD's at all. I believe this has to do with the Xbox having a slightly higher CPU clock speed which can chew through the loading a bit faster.

I have no idea how much of an impact the SSD's will be on next-gen only games as this is entirely new. I know that today the fastest SSD's that are gen 4 NVMe are orders of magnitude faster than the SATA SSD's and yet the delta in loading time between them in todays games are within the margin of error. That simply shouldn't be the case for optimized games.

We will just have to wait and see if the Velocity Architecture from Microsoft can make up for the speed difference between Sony's SSD. It may end up being meaningless or slightly slower. At the end of the day even if it is slower I don't see a difference between 3 second loads and 8 second loads being that much of a deal breaker either way. The big win is that the days of waiting minutes can be over.

[Kaedro]

Gotta say, I was expecting the PS5 to have much faster loading times. This is quinda disappointing.

[NomadR3aper]

Total BS! Gamespot uploaded a video recently with RDR2 on XSX loading in 38 seconds. Now it takes over 1 min?

[chrisoadamson]

Summary Series X 》PS5

[jznrpg]

It’s not huge difference and it’s for old games . It’s a win for Xbox but that’s not the type of wins I’d want personally . But grats your old games load slightly faster . They load fast enough on PS5 . I will play a few old games on PS5 for sure but it’s not like I’ll be sitting there wishing it would load a few seconds faster than it will be . PS went for the future games and Xbox focused on the old stuff and it shows .

[StoneyYoshi]

Finally, someone with some sense!

[Levii_92]

Not downplaying XSX here but people are actually surprised that Xbox a console dabbling in BC area for sooo long is loading BC games little faster ?

[StoneyYoshi]

It would have been embarrassing if the PS5 loaded BC games faster with all the talk about great BC support for the XSX. Im over here looking at how fast Spiderman Miles Morales loads, but everyone else in here has their blinders on like they don't see the real benefit to the PS5 SSD speeds yet.

[Levii_92]

Exactly.. Miles Morales and Demon Souls litteraly load in like 4 seconds.

[Minute Man 721]

@ Yoshi

Why would it be embarrassing? The SSD in the PS5 is twice as fast

[kryteris]

I bet MS has some nifty software here, few patches later I'd expect Sony to come around given the hardware is much better. That cant be changed. Unless that extra hardware resources are held up for xgen.

[blacktiger]

i'd rather sacrifice load times by 10 second for superior SSD speed. Now that thing is going to be really crazy!

[subzero1992]

Damn, wasn't expecting that. What's going on?

[LucidIllusion]

Nice work Xbox. Now, if only they can develop some quality IPs then they'll be a worthwhile investment.

[chrisoadamson]

Have you not seen all the studios MS has bought. This time next yr games will be here

[LucidIllusion]

I'm not impressed by quantity of studios. Only the special products that emerge from studios and I have yet to see anything worth investing Xbox for, though it's hard when you already have a gaming PC.

[lonewolf10]

Early days for both consoles, just enjoy your choices.

[FlameWater]

Comparing SSD load times is like comparing which Supercar will get you laid faster

[oldenjon]

I mean, isn't backwards compatibility a product of emulation? Seems possible that this is a very good comparison test for SSD speed. Might have to wait until multi-plat next gen games are released.

[Bender6502]

This is may not be a genuine comparison. It's important to look at file sizes, because many xbox games ran at lower resolutions to the PS4 version, therefore Xbox version might require fewer game assets to load and hence a smaller file size. I'm not saying this is THE reason or even A reason, just that file size may be a factor. We need a lot more info to reach any certain conclusions, imo.

[G4M3R_4_L1F3]

i believe its running the ps4 pro and one x versions of those games so the xbox version is running higher game assets

[Bender6502]

Fair enough, didn't realise that. In which case we will need to see what happens on true next gen third and first party titles that take advantage of respective customizations. Either way, it's great that we can look forward to such quick loading, regardless of console.

[Minute Man 721]

Already called it, the SSD argument will be moot

[akaFullMetal]

Backwards compatibility on xbox faster, surprising! Wondering if an update will change things? Maybe games are not able to take advantage of IO systems and Velocity architecture due to bc mode, since these still seem like long times, even with the improvements. Ether way, good for xbox.

[snoopgg]

Still won't make me buy a series x

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Do you both want a medal now? LOL Funny thing is the PC could have had very fast load times even on pcie 3.0 and now of course 4.0 for a few years, yet all the shit bag devs in the industry wait for the lowest common denominator to now take advantage of that on PC in the near future. How are you going to push the PC envelope forward if your always bogged down by again, the lowest common denominator. Pathetic.

[claudionmc]

Please, stop making ridiculous excuses. Ps5's only hardware advantage over xbox series x is it's SSD and it was blown away on this comparison. That's the reality.

[PrinterMan]

Odd seeing this slower on PS5 as load times for Ratchet and Spiderman, levels at least, are almost immediate. I've seen much faster load times on PS5's next gen games. Hard to say what's what here but either way. Soooooo much faster than XoneX and PS4 so I'm a happy guy.

[Binarycode]

It's nothing to do with bandwidth or Raw speeds, These are old games not using newer features of the PS5. This is already known.

Series x should be faster loading older games, Because that has been Microsoft's main focus, backwards compatibility. It does very well here and Microsoft did a good job.

Sony has barely Mentioned it, Go watch Digital Foundry for real speeds for upcoming games that use the ps5 system.

Mile Morales, takes 4.39secs to load to main menu, then 1.32secs to load a game.

https://youtu.be/mGTNTpuJsp...

[OliveTreeFam]

Both these consoles are going to be a blast to play. I have the Series X preordered and will tell my wife that my son REALLY wants the PS5 for Christmas. Win win!

[MazeRunner]

both versions are fine by me. dont get caught up with the whole ssd speed bs.

[GrmpyolGamer]

So all that touting about the super Dupa SSD in the PS5 and that's it? Lol

[MADGameR]

Unoptimized for the PS5 is all I have to say about the loading comparison here.

[CJLogix]

Nice to see xbox is building a device that benefits older games as well as future ones.

[Miacosa]

Surprising results given Xbox has a team optimizing for backwards compatibility and PS5 is just brute forcing it. Overall, both consoles are loading old games with acceptable times.

[gold_drake]

i know this is about loading times and whatnot, but i think what it comes down to is the games you wanna play right?
sure xbox is the overall "faster and more powerful" console, but whats driving console sales, are the games.

for me its never been how fast the ps5 can load my games. all of that is just a gimmick that is very much appreciated, but i wanna play the games they put out and not count the seconds the games compare to other consoles.

its a dire moment if you have those two side by side and your only argument is "OMG BEAST SO AMAZING SO POWERFUL". but where are the game barbara? where are the games.

[DiRtY]

I thought the SSD was a genius move by Sony?
That should be the one hardware component, where PS5 has an advantage over the Series X.

Turns out the Xbox Series X loads games faster, some times really noticeable faster.

Add a better CPU, better GPU, more memory bandwidth and Full RDNA 2 architecture and you will get the idea that the Xbox Series X is indeed the most powerful console. Period.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

That SSD tho....

[Tapani]

This is a CPU test, nothing more.

[JohnnyB]

You cant really read into these comparisons too much. Remember, when you play a ps4 game, the ps5 changes to BC mode and emulates the hardware and conditions of a ps4 pro, so the ps5 defaults back to run at the same level as ps4 pro architecture and you see improvements in load time naturally due to the ssd, but it will never be as optimal as a the same BC game running on a series x. The baseline for ps5 BC is a ps4 pro, while the series x's base is the Xbox one x version of a game, which we all know is generally optimised better on one x than ps4. pro. Microsoft have also been doing BC longer, having it on xbox one whereas for Sony, this is their first go.

You can only start making apples with apples comparisons with load times on new next gen games, and that same multiplat game running and optimised on both systems.

Miles morales has some pretty incredible load times. Something like 6 seconds from the ps5 home menu to in game, and non existent load screens in fast travel.

[Ulf]

Keep in mind that Microsoft has a whole team dedicated to BC tuning, and Sony just does enough to get them going.

Much like the difference between nVidia and AMD GPU drivers -- nVidia tunes theirs to be customized for each game. AMD... doesn't. That doesn't mean AMD cards are bad -- they are great for the value. They just don't get the software love that nVidia cards get, so, in the end, nVidia always looks better.

[snoopgg]

So if I want to play old games that load fast, I should get a seriesx.

[Drakul]

XBOX 1
PS 0

[Nacho_Z]

Going to be some disappointed people here when it turns out the PS5 does in fact have the fastest SSD by some distance.

[chrisoadamson]

Ps5 ssd is much faster that's hardware fact. What microsoft have done is achieved quicker speed through software engineering and their Velocity Architecture

[Ninver]

Rather wait a few second than wait a few years to play exclusives.

[1nsomniac]

Oh dear Xbox SSD quicker across the board in back compatibility by the looks of it.... expect this story to be deleted from N4G pretty quickly.

[Grayson076]

It would probably do all of you well to read the article associated with this video where they do more tests inside each game. Because in those, PS5 is faster as some points, while XSX is faster at others. Wow! It's almost like backwards compatibility doesn't take full advantage of each consoles power! Golly gee, who would thought?

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

Why the hell does everyone have to assault each other here? This crap is so old. None of the devs who said the PS5 SSD was revolutionary lied. Spiderman Miles Morales loads up the game in UNDER 20 SECONDS. That is UNREAL. Nobody lied about the capabilities of this thing. Don't let a backwards compatibility test make you think otherwise.

Also, who the heck is surprised XSX performed better in some scenarios??? I'm buying a PS5, there is zero chance I will buy a XSX. But even I knew that Microsoft was putting more focus on backwards compatibility than Sony. Doesn't mean that PS5 is crap in that department, but MS has been vocal about how they're working to enhance older games.

I'm not smart enough to explain why a new game loads in under 20 seconds on PS5 but old games take over a minute. That alone should tell you that when a game is made with the SSD in mind, or optimized for it, it will do better. So Sony fans, stop being butthurt about it. It's okay the Series X loaded better. MS fans, this isn't a big shot to Sony. Let people like what they like.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[ichdich]

Wow, the series X beats the PS5 every single time.