I wouldnt really count seconds in destiny when travelling to specific destinations because those have to do matchmaking as well, the very first load or going back to orbit are a more appropriate metric though
The interesting thing here is that although the XB Series has a slower throughput by several multipliers, its actually performing faster for BC stuff.
Now that has nothing to do with performance when a game is using the SSD as a true next gen game, but this does show that the performance "secret sauce" many people have talked about on PS5, at least in this case is not all that much better. In fact, in this video it was consistently slower from next to nothing slower to many seconds.
Yeah but at the same time these are last generation games and if I am not mistaken only one company built their arcitecture to allow them to take advantage. But I do get what you are saying!
In all honesty, I want to see the results when a 9th generation game is put to test, such as AC: Valhalla!!!
Looks like serious x wins fastest loading for old games. 😎 Bro... Next gen games appear to be almost instant loading from the previews we've seen so far, in which case is what interests me the most cause that's what I'll be playing 95% of the time.
Meh this gen hasn't started yet. 3rd party games will take full advantage of the SSD's though they'll roughly be the same. Their exclusives like Miles Morales on PS5 is near instant. So I expect Sony and MS exlusive games to take full advantage of the hardware as they inevitably will.
2013 and 14 it was resolution comparisons. Now it's SSD none of this will matter later hell it doesn't even matter now imo considering we are leaving long load times in the past finally.
Commendable. It's really, really hard to have a civil discussion about the pros and cons of the Series X and ps5 without all the fanboying. Big ups, Unself.
As an avid Sony fan that doesn't blindly defend them, I agree with this comment.
It makes me realise how optimising BC games can make quite a big diffence.
This confirms my decision to wait for a next gen patch for Cyberpunk before playing a single second of it. A game like Cyberpunk deserves to be played on next gen systems with their features taken advantage of.
I suspect the PS5’s SSD is actually too fast for old games’ loading so its max speed is emulated for backwards compatibility until a more effective solution is found, possibly through developer software updates.
It just depends on the game that's optimized for the SSD. I just saw Demon Souls loading under 5 seconds in every part of the game on Twitter. Rachet and Clank will do the same
@all the disagrees lol definitely not trying to be a Sony fanboy here was just speculating as all the information we know about the hardware says it should load data twice as fast as the Series X’s SSD. Did not articulate what I mean well but at Cerny’s PS5 tech conference he mentioned that such high speeds required new control chips and I wonder if PS4 emulation can’t recognise SSD drives as fast as the PS5 so the drive speed itself is emulated to prevent any major bugs in back compat thus making it slower than the Xbox? If my logic here is flawed I’m sorry lol
Astro's Playroom is developed for the PS5. All the games tested here are not PS5 games but PS4 games running in BC mode. They are not designed to make use of the PS5's hardware and Microsofts BC solution is better.
They're actually not using Velocity here for Xbox. VA has to be built from the ground up for X Series. So expect it in exclusive games but not so much in multiplats.
Valhalla and Dirt 5 loaded faster on ther XSX. Assassin's Creed was around 9 second difference. Dirt was 5 seconds faster. They are both FAR better than this gen. It's really not a big deal in my opinion. Higher frames, fidelity, and features are what I care about the most. I'm buying both day one. It's kinda odd Sony spent so much effort to make the SSD what it is, it decided not to out more time and money into the other components. Such as CPU, GPU, and system memory bandwidth, and stable/ locked frequencies on the CPU and GPU. I know Microsoft has some of the best Hardware engineers on the planet... But they continue to impress me once Phil took over. The fastest, most powerful console in the smaller console. Very impressive. Not gonna lie.
In my head this isn't a good test. Yes they are comparing the same game, but it's not the same code. We don't know what the differences are between the code bases. Would it not be a better test to compare the differences in load times between the same console families which are using the same code i.e. ps4 pro vs ps5, and XoX vs XsX. At least then you are comparing apples with apples.
Cpu has a lot to do with load speeds too. Tbh I've forgotten what (if any) the gap between Series X and ps5 is on that front. If it's significant that might explain this.
PS5 uses PS4 Pro BC settings when running PS4 games. XSX has it's own BC settings for all last gen games. Due to this XSX has overall better results and uses more of it's muscle when running old games.
Yay! Let the months (years) of side by side comparisons commence! Ugh...
I think most of us fully expect frames and resolution to go in favor of XSX, but seeing faster load times was surprising. I would expect that should change once we get titles optimized for next gen. Interesting start though.
Honestly I was expecting the ps5 ssd to blow the Xbox out of the water. Gears is fairly quick as well which has an updated path and we are seeing around 10sec to load up. I’m not to sure of the old time of the any ps5 exclusives like demon souls but right now it seems like ps5 is a weaker console all around. Let’s see how Xbox new exclusives will stack up in the coming years but this generation is gonna be amazing. I won’t buy a ps5 until next year since I’ve already played a lot of their games last gen and there isn’t much exclusives for them right now. Now with gamepass I still have a lot to play 😂
That's basically the same boat I'm in. I'll get a PS5 eventually, but honestly I only really need it for a couple exclusives, and all of those are going to be single player games anyway, so it's no rush to get one right away.
I don't care about Demons Souls and I'm not in any hurry to re-buy Spider Man so it's going to be quite awhile until anything comes along to tempt me. Horizon sequel will be the first one that I really want, but again, I can wait on that for awhile.
For how little I used my PS4 this gen compared to Xbox I just can't justify buying both at launch, it makes no sense at all to pay full price for something that is mostly just going to sit there.
For me, personally, I don’t have any use for the Xbox. It’s a good console but Sony has the better developers and the better games. Spending that much money on such a weak library isn’t good in this economy. PlayStation will come out with the better games as they have every generation and it won’t be close. Sony’s pedigree is unmatched. Wish MS were at Sony’s level.
I've watched some videos of Spider-Man Miles Morales and it takes a little bit over 2 seconds to go from the main menu fully into the game. 2 second load times? That's super impressive. I think it's been noted by some tech Youtubers that the XSX brute forces loading with the CPU and SSD while games need to be patched to take advantage of the PS5's SSD. I'm also waiting about a year before getting both (gonna be the first time I buy and Xbox since the original 360). Still waiting on if the Switch Pro rumor is true or not.
Yep. I'm genuinely surprised even with last gen games. I'd expect PS5 to win this battle hands down. So far, Cerny's SSD isn't looking as good as it was billed.
As games become exclusively created for next gen and are built from the ground up around the SSD's we'll see how these results vary over the months and years to come.
I'm more of a PS guy, but fair play to the Series X, those are some impressive times on the BC mode.
Lmao. Call me when xbox series x loads a detailed open world game with complex geometry and hundreds of NPCs in high detail in under 2 seconds! Good luck out there, it's gonna be a long generation for you
I'm withholding judgment. The evidence is currently on your side, but I imagine that if these games are properly updated to take advantage of the SSD, it's a different story—this is likely the case for both machines, but I think the PS5 SSD if taken to task will outperform Series X. An SSD in your PS4 doesn't help much, if at all. A similar principle very likely applies.
Isn’t there a video showing the Witcher 3 load in like 10 seconds for PS5 and like 26 seconds for the Series X? Last gen games are running emulated on both consoles, so there are bound to be games that run better on one or the other.
None of them are using there new decompression architecture but the Xbox is designed to run at constant a speed. I’m not sure if the ps5 runs at it’s top speed constantly as ssd’s normally lose speed when they get hot.
XSX runs games on it's own BC mode, PS5 runs games on PS4 Pro mode. Only sony patched first party games run in PS5 BC. This is why some ps4/x0 games run better/steady framerate compared to XSX since it runs games lower/checkerboarding resolution instead of trying to play it in Native 1800p or 4k. Cudos to MS, their BC with load times and automatic HDR etc. is amazing.
I had to watch the video with the sound. Do they say if the ps5 had the day one update. From my understanding that is where they make the BC titles faster on the new hardware. I could be wrong though.
So ... both are in back compat mode ... or is there any discrepancy in versions?
So Velocity Architecture even with lower bandwidth, triumphed?
Yay! Let the months (years) of side by side comparisons commence! Ugh...
I think most of us fully expect frames and resolution to go in favor of XSX, but seeing faster load times was surprising. I would expect that should change once we get titles optimized for next gen. Interesting start though.