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Sony: No New PSVR Games On PS5, Hitman, NMS Need PS4 Version

PSVR games on PS5 aren't happening for now, Sony confirmed. If you want to play Hitman 3 or No Man's Sky in VR, you need PS4 versions.

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BigBosss1273d ago (Edited 1273d ago )

Figured. That's why the PS5 supports PSVR for the PS4 games and future PS4 VR games and only the PSVR2 will support PS5 VR games.

crazyCoconuts1273d ago

Maybe this is to draw a line where ps5 games no longer need to support the original PSVR. It's a little confusing right now though since nothing has been announced regarding psvr2

bouzebbal1272d ago

We haven't got new psvr games in a while..

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SullysCigar1272d ago

^ @WireMucks, couldn't agree more. Ti's year has been a bumper year for new PSVR games in terms of quantity AND quality!

The top 25 lists have been turned upside down repeatedly as new games come out to put the ones we previously thought were great to shame.

Same regarding PS5 too, I'm just looking forward to the natural boost it will offer where frameratesand resolutions aren't locked. The latter will bring clarity to some stunning games that the PS4 can't quite offer. LOVE VR!

NeoGamer2321272d ago

Maybe VR just doesn't have enough of a following or the tech isn't far enough long yet to justify it.

I love VR, it is the ultimate gaming experience but there are issues and I am not sure they are resolved or resolvable yet.

I think in 10 years VR will be there. No question it is here to stay. Just not mainstream yet.

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mac_sparrow1272d ago

Okay, I'm excited for the PS5 and I fully support the concept of generations, but as a day one PSVR owner who then upgraded to the HDR passthrough model, I'll admit this is disappointing.

I totally understand the idea of drawing a line in the sand and moving to a newer, better version in the future (that controller video looked great), but they could have gone with a new box art badge of 'PSVR2 REQUIRED' or something.

I'll keep using my PSVR and enjoying it, but some new games would have been nice.

crazyCoconuts1272d ago

I think you'll get new games, they'll just be running in PS4 pro compatibility mode most likely

crazyCoconuts1273d ago

So how would you play no man's sky vr on a ps5? Can you opt to play the PS4 version on the ps5?

Babadook71273d ago (Edited 1273d ago )

Yes. It works the same as on PS4 but you need a camera adapter for PS5 (which is free from the following link) https://global.support.play...

Nodoze1272d ago

Million dollar question is whether or not the PS5 upscales PS4 PSVR titles. Providing a faster frame rate would work wonders for motion sickness.

Why does Sony persist with this cryptic information. Give us some solid messaging. What works? What doesn't? What is the benefit? More specifically DO WHAT MS is doing. They have come out with very specific messaging on what works (all games are back compat that worked on prior consoles), the benefits (framerate increase, 120 FPS in some games, 60FPS in some games etc).

BE SPECIFIC. It just seems that all Jimmy boy Ryan wants to do is tout how he is going sell more PS5's than PS4's.

Profchaos1272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

I know I'm just as frustrated as a person who plans to sell their ps4 pro for the 5 given that BC is present I won't need it but I want to keep VR and continue playing I want to know will my experience improve should I just not update hitman to a ps5 version just want a clear message.

neutralgamer19921272d ago

Nodoze

Sure I'm sure he needs your advice it's not like PS5's are sold out and their message has been crystal clear that's why they are giving free adopters for psvr to work on PlayStation 5

Clear message from ms what like how they won't tell you if Bethesda games will be exclusive to their consoles or not oh wait they are dancing around that question

or how about they answer the fact when will they ever release AAA Blockbuster exclusive for their console? 2022? Yeah clear messages

They got smashed this generation and instead of being prepared for next generation and getting started on that preparation 3 to 4 years ago they are just as unprepared now for next generation

So forgive me but no I Don't want Sony to be like Microsoft when it comes to messaging

MadLad1272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

Oh, okay.
So what your little tangent says to me is you're openly admitting you give full pass to any example of when Sony acts cryptic, or withholds information, about aspects of next gen, but gladly call out Microsoft any time they do.

Not biased nor hypocritical at all.

And oh yes; MS is so unprepared they acquired multiple award winning developers, now own some of the biggest series had in gaming, and offer the world's most popular game subscription service, which will bring in billions, itself, and is only growing in size.

Christ they're in a bad way :^)

King_Noctis1272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

“ Clear message from ms what like how they won't tell you if Bethesda games will be exclusive to their consoles or not oh wait they are dancing around that question“

MS clearly said the games will be decided on a case by case basis, and more decision will be made after MS fully acquired Bethesda next year.

“ or how about they answer the fact when will they ever release AAA Blockbuster exclusive for their console? 2022?“

Their games are in development mate. How can they release any of them if those games aren’t finished yet?

“ So forgive me but no I Don't want Sony to be like Microsoft when it comes to messaging”

So what would you rather Sony do? Keep delivering cryptic messages?

neutralgamer19921272d ago

ted

world's most popular subscription service based on what data? best service becomes best with best games not by AA GAAS

I am not giving any passes man it is what it is just like xbox side gives ms a free pass for not having any legit AAA exclusives till maybe fall 2021? sony can act this way because they know they have the market share(not saying it's right) this is why ms losing everything they had gained with xbox360 is not even bigger loss

do you know how hard it is to convince gamers of one console to switch. it's a hard sell for many especially when they switched from xbox360 to ps4 now they have huge libraries and friends who play on PlayStation.

king

just answer me this very simple question: what was phil doing for past 4-5 years? xbox was doing so badly they stopped releasing sales data, knowing they lost the market share how are they not more prepared for next gen? legit question don't give me any BS. so you mean to tell me it's only recently they realized they need more studios what were they sleeping throughout this gen when both sony and nintendo were releasing AAA blockbusters GOTY contenders

ms are the ultimate definition of front runners when it comes to xbox brand when they start doing good they are touting and releasing all sort of stats when they are 50+ million behind they keep their mouths shut and want to provide hours played

King_Noctis1272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

“ just answer me this very simple question: what was phil doing for past 4-5 years?”

Preparation for the new console as well as acquire 17 new studios including Zenimax? Creating one of the best value in gaming in Gamepass (as well as partnering with EA for said service)? And during these years they had also released games like Ori, Forza Horizon, Gears 5, Gears Tactics, MS Flight Simulator, Grounded, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, among many other.

You think it is easy to fix and undone the mistakes that Phil Harrison had caused?

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neutralgamer19921272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

King

Book mark this in 3-4 years time Phil will be replaced and xbox will get a new boss with same promises as before. Xbox has the slogan wait for next E3 for a reason

Don't blame Phil harrison or even don matrick. Phil has been the lead guy now for whole generation. It's like a sports team going into a rebuild and they stay that way afterwards this is what Xbox brand has been

As someone who bought the OG Xbox over a ps2 this wasn't the original vision. That vision along with that passion has vanished and now we are left with a brand which is trying to become a service

You can say best service I will believe that when they actually start releasing AAA games that can contend with sony and Nintendo. It's easy to put your games on a service it wasn't like people were lining up to pay full price for those games to begin with

You once again gave me a excuse when I simply asked why wasn't Phil and his studios more focused on next gen? Shouldn't they have prepared for this 3+ years ago and have few big AAA games ready at launch

Ps5 will dominate and take the market share once again because in the initial 18-24 months Sony has stacked the deck with exclusives, timed exclusives etc

And another thing Phil has been a higher up at Ms for a while so y'all can blame Dom and harrison all you want but fact if the matter is Phil was on board with that

Book mark this in 3-4 years xbox brand will hit the reset because don't is bringing the hammer down

King_Noctis1272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

“ Book mark this in 3-4 years time Phil will be replaced and xbox will get a new boss with same promises as before”

No one can stay in the same position dude. Just look at Sony, after Shawn Layden left and Jim Ryan took the charge, they started to make many blunders especially during the past few months when it comes to the PS5.

“ You once again gave me a excuse when I simply asked why wasn't Phil and his studios more focused on next gen?”

Aren’t Fable, project Mira, Hellblade 2, Awoved, Forza Motorsport, Everwild, SoD 3, and to a certain extent Halo Infinite all next gen games? While you’re right that they should have prepared sooner, you’ve gotta realize that MS is not all about Xbox. Phil just can’t go straight to Satya Nadella and demand him to hand over billion of dollars to spend on Xbox, especially after the mess that Harrison/Mattrick had made. Everything take time.

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jukins1272d ago

They've already said certain psvr titles will have smoother framerates

Profchaos1272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

Yeah I think they will run in backwards compatibility mode with a ps5 profile however I can't recall any games that I've played on psvr with poor framerates or bad frame pacing by its very nature that would make you extremely sick.

It's possible that Sony wants to keep VR games playable on both ps4 and ps5 as there's only about 6 million VR units out there splintering the market would hurt that community but that's me giving them the benifit out the doubt I just hope this isn't the end of VR as I really love the platform and I'm excited for the future of VR plus I just love the simplicity of console VR over PC vr I know the limitations easier and there's less fine tuning.

The only time I've experienced a jitter in VR would be Skyrim only a handful of times

jukins1272d ago

Right now the one that sticks out for me is iron man vr. Besides the horrendous load times. When rhe action gets heavy the fps dropped significantly enemies almost tick across the screen and that causes nasty blur as well Its totally distracting but with solid fps it wouldn't be an issue.

SullysCigar1272d ago

I've been loving Star Wars Squadrons and that's one of the games that has dynamic resolution. Really looking forward to trying that on PS5!

jukins1272d ago

Not entirely accurate. Psvr has 3 modes. 90hz native 120h, native and 60fps interpolated to 120hz

Rhythmattic1272d ago

The Screens refresh rate is 120Hz.. The minimum Requirement that sony enforcers is 60 for certification.
Only a few games run at a 120hz output....

yeahokwhatever1270d ago

its almost always a 120hz reprojection. like 1 game has bothered to use a 90hz refresh (basically pointless to not use reprojection)

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kryteris1272d ago

So no ps5 exclusive? ugh. that will just hold back vr. damn. I suppose if they can make the game look great with upscaling or hd textures should last til the new unit.

MrNinosan1272d ago

It’s exactly the other way around.
They do this to make Ps5 exclusive VR games.

crazyCoconuts1272d ago

I think you're right. Otherwise why restrict it?

BLAKHOODe1272d ago

This could also mean PSVR 2 will be sooner than later since VR players will be deprived for so long. Sony has already said it's not happening in 2021, but 2022 is a real possibility

AriesBear1272d ago

Mmhmm. VR is fun but you're buying or using an amazing 4K HDR TV to support the visuals of the console. why would you want to diminish that quality with lower res VR? Doesn't make sense. It's a gimmick. Invest that money in a good name brand 4K TV with earc support, high hdr nit, surround sound .

boing11272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

VR is definitely not for everyone but you shouldn't be so ignorant about it. It's a subjective thing. Flat screen won't give you this experience, no matter the resolution.

Profchaos1272d ago

Because one word immersion.
I can have the best tv in the world but playing star wars squadrons will always be a better experience when I can look up to see an enemy tie fighter flying overhead vs flatscreen gamers who may be playing at 4k but can't see the battlefield like I can

subzero19921272d ago

VR is just too isolating. I don't like using it at home alone and for it to be truly immersive you need space. That required me to move furniture around. Too much of a hassle for the 15/20 minute experiences.

Profchaos1272d ago

It's not for everyone it's not isolating IMO as I play social games like squadrons and firewall frequently the latter has a really positive community also but unless you have studio headphones with noise cancelling on you can still hear the outside world.

I can understand feeling vulnerable if you can't see.or hear and see alone so no judgement but ive never felt that while being home alone the way the tech is I still feel as if I have a presence in the world and I'm mostly immersed but I know what is happening in my outside world. Probably the only time I've not clocked something is when my dog licked my hands when playing Skyrim and made me jump pretty high

FlyingFoxy1272d ago

"why would you want to diminish that quality with lower res VR?"

Someone has obviously never heard of pixel density, why argue over this if you have no clue what you're talking about?

Profchaos1272d ago

Immersion If you look at psvr screenshots the games look basic and not that nice but play it and it's the last thing on your mind

generic-user-name1272d ago

You sound like someone who has nevrr used VR. No TV display can compare.

Rhythmattic1272d ago

Aries ?
A gimmick?
The difference between Pancake gaming and VR is HUGE.
YEH..... Res7 on a 4K tv over PSVR... NOT.

Ridiculous to call int a gimmick.. The gimmick is your statement.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7222h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

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Lightning771h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus232h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10112h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos11h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Razer Kishi Ultra Review - Remote Play and Mobile Gaming Goes XL

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 8h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken18h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 4h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 3h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 4h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 3h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 2h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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