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Hands On: Project xCloud Works Almost Impossibly Well

'There are moments where this feels like a native handheld experience'

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Jin_Sakai1761d ago

Sure thing purexbox.com

I tried it on a 500Mbps fiber connection and it worked pretty well. Then I switched to cellular and it was a different story. There a tower right next to my location so I almost get a 100Mbps connection and it still wasn’t a great experience. There was noticeable lag, the audio would clip out sometimes, and artifacts would appear from time to time. It’s just like every other streaming service I’ve tried.

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roadkillers1760d ago

Yeah. I had 200mbps internet and it worked near flawlessly. Used Cell data and as long I wasn’t in a cellar, it ran great. I live in the middle of nowhere and creepy things happen in the middle of nowhere. It’s up to my dog Courage to save my new home... while I play XCloud flawlessly ;)

roadkillers1760d ago

Yeah, I was apart of the beta that is ending soon. I tried Halo for the first time, but shamefully spent most of my time in Madden 20. Another game I tried was Hellblade. The collection is great and it is nice that online is included.

bouzebbal1759d ago

Is there a comparison video with ps now, just to understand what the fuss is about?? For me Now is working impossibly well.. I can download, steam and play online with one subscription and haven't experienced lags even when playing multiplayer fps.

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Ausbo1760d ago

Thanks for that “unbiased” opinion Jin Sakai.

porkChop1760d ago

100mbps doesn't matter if your connection has high ping/latency or high amounts of jitter.

fathertime44641760d ago

Funny because on my lunch break I was playing just fine with the only issue being some minor artifacting in the video feed and I was only getting l 15mb down and only 2 bars. Sounds like you full of it jin

MadLad1760d ago

I mean, this has been said on many non-Xbox centric sites as well.

Going by your comment history, it's less about the publication and more about the company they're covering. You'd have no issue with the exact same statement made by a Sony centric site if it were regarding Playstation.

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Jin_Sakai1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

“Easy to see his comment history to know he's making that up. Hell, the article has proof, this "gamer" doesn't. Better yet go watch some YouTube vids to see how well it works.”

Ok.

https://ibb.co/n7tLR8C

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1759d ago

I smell BS from a known Sony fanboy. No surprise you’re being a hater in a Xbox article.

IRetrouk1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

regardless of what he's a fan of, he's provided proof of being in the preview program, and what he said actually happens, i know hes telling the truth because I've been in the preview from day 1 and experienced the same issues, he may be a hater of xbox but that does not mean what he's stated is not true, personally I think the service is good for what it is, but it does have the issues jin pointed out.

IRetrouk1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

That stuff you pointed out does happen (been in the preview from day 1), the author does point out some of the drawbacks too jin, like the 720p streaming, the (at times) low bitrate and the fact you really need a 5ghz connection at home, I think he was pretty honest about the service in my opinion, the only other thing I noticed was xcloud does not like 4g either, other than that, the service is as he describes.

fathertime44641759d ago

The beta through the game pass app works way better than the 1st beta ever did. It works a lot better over cell signal than ever b4

IRetrouk1759d ago

really? I'm going to download the newer version now, because its flat out unplayable at the moment on my 4g connection.

CaptainHenry9161759d ago

You also gotta be a game pass ultimate member to get project xCloud which is $15 dollars a month

DJStotty1759d ago

I ran it on a 32mbps fibre connection (my router does not do 5ghz wireless, so was running on 2.4ghz), with little to no issues.

Must be another factor causing your issues Jin.

IRetrouk1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

No, even the article mentions not being able to play over 2.4ghz, and I know for a fact it doesn't work right at all, my router switches between the two signals, depending on what signal is stronger, I had to turn it off because everytime it dropped me to 2.4ghz the games became a jittery unplayable mess, plenty of posts online about this too.....

DJStotty1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

no iretrouk, do not lie

"XCloud on a 2.4GHz network connection is much less reliable than a 5Ghz connection, even when up close to the router. 5Ghz is def recommended. If your router has 5Ghz support, you're good"

https://www.reddit.com/r/xc...

Reddit thread for your perusal, so

"No, even the article mentions not being able to play over 2.4ghz, and I know for a fact it doesn't work right at all"

Is a bit of a lie, it is just less reliable than a 5ghz connection.

Your router may switch between the 2, but mine in the UK with provider Sky, does not have 5ghz.

From a verified xbox employee :-

"The main problem with 2.4ghz is that the spectrum is crowded. Not just with other WiFi networks but other dissimilar devices such as Bluetooth and Microwave ovens! ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/... ). This causes interference which leads to dropped packets which leads to a degraded experience. We try to keep the stream real-time, and can’t use buffering techniques like static video services (Netflix, YouTube, etc) since that would introduce input latency. Instead you get visual and audio artifacts.

So if you happen to have a 2.4ghz WiFi setup with not many other devices on it, and few to no other 2.4ghz networks overlapping yours then you MIGHT have a good experience. Now since we recommend using a Bluetooth controller (since wired support is not widely supported across devices), you may observe interference from your own controller that is enough to degrade your experience."

IRetrouk1759d ago

Dude, I know for a fact, when using 2.4ghz the games are unplayable, they become a stuttering, leggy mess, not a lie, a cold hard fact, your capping, I'm telling the honest truth.....

all you have to do is a Google search to see how many people have the issue with 2.4ghz, its not just me and jin lol, I'm in the UK too, i use virgin media, you have to change the settings in the router itself to stop the switching, once you do, the service is great.

DJStotty1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

@iretrouk

You do know that the 2.4ghz and 5ghz is nothing to do with broadband speeds right?

Just the frequency that your router provides a wireless signal at?

Some people will have no lag using 2.4ghz, and some will have a lot, some it will be unplayable. Household appliances use the same 2.4ghz frequency which interferes with signal from the router.

Anyone knows this, so just because "you" had an unplayable experience using 2.4ghz, does not mean it is the same for the rest of the human race.

You could have a bad router, bad IP setup's, using incorrect ports, need to forward a few ports.

P.s. virgin are renowned to have fast internet, but bad routers. When i was with Virgin, i had dropouts and strict nat constantly, so after a few months swapped to sky whereas the router is a lot stronger signal wise.

IRetrouk1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

Dude, regardless of your excuses, the experience on a 2.4ghz connection is subpar, i didnt mention speeds lol, that had nothing to do with what I was saying, the issues jin pointed out are legit, the app itself even tells you to switch from a 2.4ghz signal to a 5ghz signal if possible, if that don't tell you its not optimal, then nothing will lol.
https://ibb.co/GFjd9R8

You can claim its only me experiencing this stuff, but the simple fact is its not, its a known issue with the service, you can say my stuff isn't set up right(it is) you can blame my provider(its not), you can even blame me(again with a 5gz signal its great), or you can admit its something that needs worked on and actually direct that towards ms instead of people pointing it out?

Why did you leave virgin if you knew what the issues with the router were? You can go in and change any of those settings yourself.....or even buy your own router if not happy with the signal, but to change to a slower provider over a box you can correct seems silly to me🤷‍♂️

DJStotty1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

@iretrouk

you obviously either do not read and comprehend what people are saying, or you are just plain ignorant.

1) i personally had an ok experience with xcloud, on my mobile, on a 2.4ghz wireless connection, yes there was lag here and there but nothing game breaking.

2) i simply pointed out, that although you had a bad experience with using 2.4ghz, does not equate to 2.4ghz not working for anyone at all.

3) as i explained, i left virgin media, as the network connection kept dropping, and the router wireless strength could not reach my room where the console was placed, nothing to do with connection speed, adding in to the fact that they were overcharging (around £125 a month) at the time. I swapped provider for a cheaper one, and sky provided a better router.

4) i have always maintained, that the experience will be better while using a 5ghz wireless connection, that is common sense to anyone.

5) speed has nothing to do with xcloud, you need a minimum of 10mbps download. Sky's lowest is 25mbps (i think) and other providers are well above 30mbps.

6) plenty of users will have issues using 2.4ghz as opposed to 5ghz, i never disputed that. But flat out saying it does not work due to your experience is a fabricated lie.

7) i am making no excuses for anything, again a fabricated statement on your part. I am plainly saying, xcloud works with 2.4ghz wireless, and 5ghz wireless. But the better experience will be with 5ghz (as stated in previous comments)

IRetrouk1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

You question my comprehension yet, again you are mentioning speed, and just to be crystal clear, I did not mention speed in relation to the problems a 2.4ghz signal bring up, i only mentioned my service provider because you did.... but just so you know, the 2.4ghz and 5ghz signals do have speed differences, 2.4ghz throttles your speed, 5ghz allows much more through, just noticed you said the signals have nothing at all to do with speed, but they do.

My comment had nothing to do with speed though, its the fact that on a 2.4ghz connection, the service does not work as advertised, you have blamed everything but the problem itself....xcloud does not work very well with a 2.4ghz signal and it does cause problems, its something that needs work. Like it don't🤷‍♂️

1. So you admit to some of the issues but then claim its fine? Its not fine, its unplayable for a lot of people, you say because ive had a bad experience that it does not translate to everyone, wouldnt that be the exact same thing for your almost perfect experience?, but yet, the issues are still 100% there and need worked on.

2. I didnt say not working at all, I said not working right, and i also gave examples of why it becomes unplayable..

3. So you left over price and not the very easy to fix issues Google and 5 minutes would have sorted, thats fair enough.

4. And thats great, I was only pointing out the truths of the experiance, I like the service and will continue using it even after the preview ends, that won't stop me from giving honest criticism though.

5. Again with the speed.....I didnt mention speed🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

6. It becomes unplayable...like it or not its the truth, not made up lol and not a lie. Its a known issue...

7. You said with little to no issues and then blamed it on the user, yet I'm having the exact same issues he is along with plenty of others, so how is it made up?

DJStotty1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

@iretrouk

2.4ghz and 5ghz is frequency and speed.

2.4ghz is slower speeds at a larger range (through walls, different rooms etc)
5ghz is faster speeds at a lesser range (will struggle to reach through walls, into other rooms etc)

Whichever one you want to use is your choice, me personally will use the 2.4ghz and play in another room.

IRetrouk1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

I'm glad you are getting a good experiance over 2.4ghz, its just honestly not an option for me and others, I'm lucky in that I knew the router was switching, but not everyone would know this, or have the ability to turn it off, I'm only pointing out what jin was saying was true, using my own experiances to back up what I say, same as yourself. The more people know, the less will have issues, or at least know what the issue is.

DJStotty1758d ago

I do not need google, or a 5 minute search session to figure out what is wrong with a network or a router, it is what i do for a living.

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rainslacker1759d ago (Edited 1759d ago )

Any kind of streaming service is going to be dependent on multiple factors, and anecdotal experiences are never an indication of overall quality or actual capabilities, nor will it be indicative of what someone else may experience regardless of having similar either all or some parameters that someone else has.

There is no way to judge the quality of one's experience with these services on an individual level without the individual just trying it. Even if they have a bad experience once, it may be worth trying again if circumstances change on some part of their hardware or network set ups.

The best that can be had about what these systems have to offer is it's maximum potential, and overall general satisfaction when looked at as a whole.

This is true of all these services, which is why I rarely claim someone is wrong when they relay their experience, and typically may only relay my own, or state what I did above. Those with good experiences may also do well to not assume that people with bad experiences are lying about them as well.

IRetrouk1758d ago

Thats all well and good and I tend to agree, I wasn't responding to his good experiance, i responded to this

"Must be another factor causing your issues Jin."

Hes denied jins issues as a problem his end, when i know for a fact the app struggles with 2.4ghz signals and causes the issues jin mentions, i even stated on 5ghz its a great service that I would continue to use🤷‍♂️

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Hakuoro1760d ago

Nah, I have seen a lot of other reviews that are honest and admit it has the same problems as all the other streaming services. Latency and out or order packets are an inescapable truth of the internet, reviews like this are just misleading people.

gamer78041759d ago

problems inherent to streaming games sure, but as an added bonus for playing on xbox, sounds good to me.

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After years of waiting, Xbox Cloud Gaming's "Stream Your Own Game" feature is going live today.

Xbox Cloud Gaming victory: Finally, after years of waiting, you can now play (some of) your Xbox games on Xbox Cloud Gaming.

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darthv72203d ago

Oh what timing... now that Portal is offering cloud streaming as well.

OtterX201d ago (Edited 201d ago )

Yea, it's incredible having titles available in handheld streaming format without having to have a console on. This is even better for traveling. I was messing around w it for the first time this morning and the quality was so good, I forgot at times that I was actually streaming. (1gbs) any minor imperfections aren't amplified like they would be on a big screen tv.

I guess XBox users can still do it if they have a Steam Deck, ROG etc, so nobody is left out. Streaming like this is best for handheld play IMO.

crazyCoconuts201d ago

I've tried streaming from various hotel chains while traveling. Hotel WiFi in general sucks and that makes streaming untenable

OtterX200d ago

@crazyCoconuts I guess it depends on your traveling style. I usually stay in privately owned hostels across our country who tend to invest more in good internet. I always check with them before I book.

OtterX200d ago

I just tested the Portal from our new home we're moving into, a 2 hour drive away and in the rural countryside where we have to run Starlink. No fibre available here, but getting 357 mbs, and I'm streaming my PS5 from our 1gbs at our old home. It's streaming perfectly, so not sure what you're going on about @crazycoconuts.

Neonridr201d ago

*for select titles, for premium members only..

Vits201d ago

What bothers me about this new Xbox offering is that you still need a Game Pass Ultimate subscription to play. It’s not like Stadia, where you could buy the game and play it without needing a subscription, which was only for extra features. So, who is this really meant for?

To use the service, you’d need to buy the game and keep paying for Game Pass Ultimate. That’s asking a lot, especially since Xbox console owners, who are probably the main audience for this, would likely prefer to just download the game and play it directly on their consoles. There’s a small case to be made for Xbox owners who travel often, but how big could that group really be?

As for Sony, their approach to streaming is also strange. They limit how games can be streamed locally. For example, the mobile app allows screen controls but doesn’t support most physical controllers, only the DualSense and, for some games, the DS4. Their reasoning seems to be that these controllers are needed for the proper features—yet the app lets you play with screen controls, and there’s even a third-party app that works with any controller.

Then there’s the Portal, which is basically a DualSense with a screen and an internet connection. But it’s only now getting cloud streaming, even though there’s no technical reason it couldn’t have had this from the start.

Bathyj201d ago

I was going to ask is this not what Portal is doing?

Are you telling me after all these years of bathering about cloud streaming you couldn't play your own games? WTactualF?

darthv72201d ago (Edited 201d ago )

playing your own games via streaming required the console (ala remote play). Now you can stream games you own without the need for the console to be on.

the xcloud beta was only for gamepass ultimate games and now you can stream ones you own regardless if they are in GPU or not.

Knushwood Butt200d ago

Power of da cloud, just a few years late.

redrum06201d ago

Still, that's for the Playstation Plus Premium/Extra library. This is for streaming games you own, which would've been nice to have on PS as well.

Kyizen201d ago

Different. Portal is catching up to Xbox Cloud Streaming but Xbox is catching up to Portal remote play feature it had at launch

darthv72200d ago

XB has always been able to stream games you own from the console (ala remote play).
The xcloud side let you stream without the console but only games in game pass.
NOW it is letting you stream games you own through xcloud without them needing to be in game pass.

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MaximusPrime_201d ago

Thanks goodness for PS Portal. I don't even own Xbox

Giodel201d ago

omg I AM SO SO SO SOSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO tired of this sites PS fanatism. This is an XBOX post for something XBOX does why do you have to go and mention portal? WHY tell me WHY?

VersusDMC201d ago

All the Fck horizon, Concord, PS5 pro articles and comments really make it a ps fanatic site...are you delusional?

Redgrave201d ago

Such is the nature of any gaming related website. It is inevitable. Unavoidable.

Some do it out of passion, some out of self amusement, and some just wish to sow pointless discourse.

Xbox posts will have Playstation comments and vice versa. Here, there, everywhere.

Nooderus201d ago

VersusDMC Yes i think most of the people that frequent this site have a positive sony bias.

Rockstar201d ago

Alright, calm down! It's just the Internet

redrum06201d ago

I know, N4G is known to be a PS centric fanboy site, it's ridiculous. Instead of constantly downplaying Xbox in whatever they do, maybe just be happy for the other. Competition is a good thing to have.

Michiel1989201d ago

@nooderus I honetly think there's nothing wrong with bias, but it really does seem that critical thinking goes out the window because of it, that part I just don't understand. Wouldn't people want the company/product or what have you to do the best they can instead of accepting everything they shovel towards you because you like them?

Gamingsince1981201d ago

Every site is playstation biased, because every one likes playstation and xbox is dead, what do you expect. That's like saying "this food site has a biased towards good food but everyone hates eating poo, it's so unfair to poo eaters"

cooperdnizzle201d ago

Well if you were on this site like 15 years ago you would know, that it was 99% Xbox fans and if you were Sony fans you had to fight tooth and nail to just say a game was good.

Second people like PS now days because it is by far the better platform.

Nacho_Z201d ago

Only seems that way ("PS fanatism") because Sony is currently on top. Naturally there will be more positive articles and comments about the front runner.

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GotGame818201d ago (Edited 201d ago )

Sure, you can't leave the house with it, and play. Wii U did that YEARS ago right out of the box. You can cloud play, literally anywhere.

crazyCoconuts201d ago

Are you sure your Portal... Isn't an Xbox??

TheEroica200d ago

"thank goodness" 😂 what a shill.... The portal is a joke... One that only Sony could get away with on its soft brained fan base.

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neomahi201d ago

I really don't think Nintendo and PlayStation need to get caught up in this. Streaming isn't the future, yet and there's no rush to get into that market. If Nintendo is still selling a mass number of Nintendo Switch consoles, what does that tell you? It tells you Xbox is trying to stay relevant and bring everyone along with them, but, like PlayStation's own fans have been telling PlayStation "THATS NOT WHAT WE WANT" and PlayStation is learning the hard way they're not listening to their consumers like they were with the PS3 and PS5. But, this isn't what people want yet. Nintendos dabbling in it and PlayStation has been doing it since they acquired Gaikai, but it's never stuck. People that have been streaming movies and ditching it and collecting physical media again, it's slowly going back in that direction and they'll tell their gaming brethren not to fall for it. Theyre getting physical media and loading it on to their own servers to run on home servers within their walls THEY control, not the corporations that sell them a license, not a product they pay for and own. Imagine buying cloths or your house that can be repossessed whenever Nike, DC, Vans, or Reebok want to take back because it goes out of style when they say so.

Streaming may be the future but it's the distant future. Internet service providers can't even sustain that. Data caps still exist and internet isn't that fast as it's most affordable prices. You're attacking a REALLY niche market that's going to be received as well as the PS5 Pro. Xbox killed their brand with the Xbox One that wanted to integrate streaming into their games to further try and sell and incentivise Xbox Live and we saw that went. Streaming could very well cause the next gaming crash, is how I see it. The rest of the tech world isn't ready for that, especially during yet another trying economy

cooperdnizzle201d ago

Hey dude they can take your house back. It’s called property tax. Paying for something you already own.

But I agree, I have already had digital games taken from me. Sucks

jznrpg201d ago (Edited 201d ago )

More options are good but streaming as a whole has a lot of issues. I will always prefer dedicated hardware. I’m bring my PS with me when I travel. Internet is not good traveling

darthv72201d ago (Edited 201d ago )

A PS5 (even slim) does not make for a good travel companion. Meaning on the go, not in a closed environment like a hotel room, but on a plane or a train or an automobile... this is what works in all of those situations: https://images.purexbox.com...

Its nice an compact but obviously still bigger than a handheld. If you want that 'console' experience that is.

Rashers201d ago

That still requires power leads for both the console and screen.

127maXimus201d ago

Yeah but you would still have to buy them for Xbox.

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With Owned Xbox Games Finally Playable via the Cloud - the Promise of Stadia Returns

After some false starts over the past 24 hours, playing your owned games on Xbox Cloud Gaming is live. The cloud console officially returns! Is it Stadia's promise finally fulfilled?

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anast203d ago

I told you all. Here is comes.

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Eonjay201d ago

Playstation was already doing this with Premium. A lot of the games I own are streamavle on PS5. I assume they will eventually add access to the Portal.

NotoriousWhiz201d ago

False. Only games Playstation allows you to stream are those available on PSN premium regardless of whether or not you own them.

What Microsoft is beginning to do is enable streaming of some titles even though they aren't part of game pass (as long as they are owned by the user)

Eonjay200d ago

It's not false. I bought Final Fantasy Rebirth on PSN and I can still stream it to my PS5 even though it's not part of Plus. Same with many many other titles. PlayStation has allowed this since they revamped their streaming service like a tear ago. This will eventually come to Portal streaming during the beta I am sure.

gold_drake202d ago

yeh, we all saw what happened to it.

peppeaccardo202d ago

Whoever decided that gaming streaming was actually a thing to charge customers for is a F-ing genius .... even playstation portal lags and is only few feet away !from the PS5! Simply Why ? ... Why ?

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Coming to Game Pass: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6, StarCraft & StarCraft II, and More

Happy spooky season to those who celebrate! We have a collection of scary games for you to enjoy with Game Pass, while hiding under the blankets (or maybe that’s just how I play). And if you want to do something slightly less scary, we have a whole list of games for you to start pre-installing including more day one additions like Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 and more! Let’s get to the games.

• South Park: The Fractured but Whole (Cloud, Console, and PC) – October 16
• Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Cloud, Console, and PC) – October 25
• Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III (Cloud) – October 25
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• Call of Duty: Warzone (Cloud) – October 25
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• Ashen (Cloud, Console, and PC) – October 29
• Dead Island 2 (PC) – October 31
• StarCraft: Remastered (PC) – November 5
• StarCraft II: Campaign Collection (PC) – November 5

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crazyCoconuts239d ago

Let the COD on GamePass experiment begin!
I would think their quarterly revenue will take a hit compared to a year ago, but will maybe make up for it throughout the year as the monthly GP subs keep coming in

pwnmaster3000239d ago

Was up with call of duty man?
I downloaded cod on gamepass and for some reason I cannot access the game.

darthv72239d ago

just curious what version? There are some that you can pre-load, but they wont work until their release date later this month.

pwnmaster3000238d ago

I have to redownload it again for the 3rd time to check.
I ended up just deleting it to make room for other games after the second time.

It was on Xbox game pass, I didn’t know there was other versions. I just downloaded everything, but sadly I couldn’t even access the game. Maybe 3rd time the charm. I’ll download it again.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH238d ago

It’s not out yet man unless you’re talking about MW3.

pwnmaster3000238d ago

I’m talking about mw3. For some reason I could not get it to work.

just_looken238d ago

On xbox there is the last gen/current gen versions pc though you could also get a xbox version.

When that new forza first came out for one day they had the xbox version on the pc store i was like ? what it was odd.

On xbox you can easily download the one version of a game instead of the series version so you run into issues on your series console.

pwnmaster3000238d ago

Because a game won’t run after I download it??
Man your kids must hate your @ss if that’s how you think.

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dveio238d ago

It's going to be very interesting to follow up on how the new entry of CoD will perform at the box office, player numbers and distribution of Xbox, PC and PS versions this year.

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DivineHand125238d ago

I got excited thinking they ported StarCraft to consoles but it's just the PC version. Also, I thought Starcraft 2 was already free to play.

TheColbertinator238d ago

I'm certain it is going to be the Campaign Collection version.

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