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MICRON confirms that the NVIDIA ‘Ampere RTX 3090’ card will get 21Gbps GDDR6X memory

Metal Messiah from DSOGaming writes: "The GeForce RTX 3090 graphics card is being listed on the Micron website with 12GB GDDR6X memory, so we can expect the bandwidth to be between 912 to 1008 GB/s."

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mrsolidsteel201351d ago

this thing is going to cost 2k easily, maybe even more.

Vits1351d ago

Very likely going for the current price of the RTX 2080 Ti and the Titan RTX. Though very few people should actually have a use case for such a monstrosity.

The RTX 3080 and RTX 3070 is where things will get more interesting. As supposedly those are the targets for AMD's Big Navi.

Fishy Fingers1351d ago (Edited 1351d ago )

I think Big Navi is targeting them not the other way around to be honest. AMD are the ones playing catch-up for the performance crown.

I expect AMD to win out on bang for buck as usual but Nvidia to retain their performance lead (albeit by a smaller margin).

Vits1351d ago

@Fishy Fingers

If the more recent news are true is really the opposite. With Nvidia even preparing higher memory versions of the cards to launch close to AMD offering in order to be competitive as the normal variants wouldn't suffice.

Fishy Fingers1351d ago (Edited 1351d ago )

Sure I've read the "news" (the speculation thats been all over the place all year). But I'd say Nvidia have a pretty proven track record. AMD hasnt been able to challenge the high end for around 7 years. You think the threats of Big Navi, a potential contender, has had Nvidia rest on their laurels?

Personally I dont care, I'll buy the one that suits my needs/price point better. Just history favours the Green Team.

tombfan1351d ago (Edited 1351d ago )

Fishy Fingers... lately it's been the other way around hahaha nVidia is trying to catch up with AMD.

Vits1351d ago

@Fishy Fingers

I would say that there is a chance, after all the same could be said about the CPU market and look where are right now. Plus the reports on Nvidia hardware are not exactly good.

But we will see.

RazzerRedux1351d ago

@tombfan

How is nVidia having to catch up with AMD? In consumer GPU, AMD has nothing that can beat RTX 2070. That has been the case for a while.

medman1351d ago (Edited 1351d ago )

@vits
I have a use case for the monstrosity...originally, I was going to buy both ps5 and series x, but instead I'm going to buy a ps5 at launch and build out a new pc with a 3080ti/3090 card and get game pass for xbox games. Cyberpunk is looking so damn good I can't help myself. I want to push the graphical fidelity, ray tracing, and framerate as much as possible with Cyberpunk, knowing that I will get the most out of it on pc, with mods. With dlss the ability to use a low resolution image that is a much lower percentage of native 4k, but get that image to look as good or better than native 4k while using a fraction of the processing power should mean incredible things for framerates with these cards. So being able to keep all the graphical fidelity, with vastly improved ray tracing AND higher frame rates is really shaping up to be a large step forward.

The first games I ever played were on a pc, but I've been a console only gamer since those early days. In 2020 I return to pc gaming full force. I still need my Sony exclusives though, so PS5 is a must. Call me crazy, but I like what I like. Hopefully they are competitive on pricing with the ampere cards. We shall see.

ABizzel11351d ago

I don't think the 3070 and possibly 3080 will be able to match big Navi. Look no further than the Series X, and we know at least one of AMD's Navi GPUs will be a 56 CU (the 4 CU reenabled) with a 2.0GHz clock speed or higher.

That's a 14.336 TF GPU and should put that card above the 2080 Ti in performance, which is where the 3080 is rumored to be as well.

Big Navi is allegedly 64 - 80 CUs, which is more in line with the 3080ti or the rumored 3090. A 64 CU Big Navi is on par with the rumored 50% more powerful 3080 ti, and the 80 CU version sounds more like a dual GPU rather than a single die, which would be nice to see if performance of Dual GPUs has gotten better in games. The Dual GPU also makes sense, as Sony has been rumored to be working with AMD on a Dual GPU as well, and beings a dual 40 CU GPU, it could easily be a 72CU GPU which is perfect for a PS6 or PS5 Pro, as it doubles the CUs just like the PS4 - PS4 Pro.

This is going to be a lot closer than people think if these rumors are true, in like for like performance outside of Ray Tracing and DLSS which will still give NVIDIA an advantage.

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contra1571351d ago

Dang . Bet that’s gonna have big price tag on it .

subzero19921351d ago

I thought PS5 would be ahead of PC for a few years?

Hamzilla771351d ago

for price vs performance the cost of PS5 and what it will deliver vs the cost of this and what it delivers is yet to be seen but I bet the PS5 will be the wiser choice for costs vs graphics/performance

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RazzerRedux1351d ago

Seen nothing to indicate next gen consoles are ahead of PC now, much less a few years.

jukins1351d ago

Lol man when you have to spend over 4x the amount to get marginally better performance im gonna call that light years ahead.

Imagine if sony or Microsoft made a console without care for cost. . .if they can squeeze 4k60 out of $300 boxes imagine if they did t care about costs. I mean we get yes pc is capable of being more powerful but the amount it takes shows its really not ahead of consoles

RazzerRedux1351d ago (Edited 1351d ago )

"4x the amount to get marginally better performance"

Why do console fans have this silly idea that PC gamers have to start from scratch every time a new console is launched? I could probably spend LESS money than a new console will cost by upgrading to a new GPU this fall and have a better performing system than any console released. Hell, if I had just put aside the amount console gamers spent paying for online gaming then I'd probably have half of that GPU paid for already. 4x the amount? That's just silly.

Console gamers think they automatically win the price/performance argument, but that's just not the case.

fr0sty1351d ago

PS5's HDD is still unrivaled on PC, so there's that.

anubusgold1351d ago (Edited 1351d ago )

@jukins We dont throw away our whole pc when we upgrade man. Most people change out the cpu or gpu when upgrading plus you can always sell your old parts for 200 dollars or more depending what you got. And pc will have 3 times the fps still because consoles still use 30fps .

anubusgold1351d ago

@fr0sty There are already ssds on PC faster than the PS5 at 11Gbs to 15Gbs its just that Intel motherboards dont support that only AMD motherboards do. Epic games was talking out of their ass because their whole studio is on intel.

Anomander1350d ago

@frosty until the games start rolling out and we see some specs and real world proof. It's all vaporware at this point. Demos and videos don't prove anything. Games do the talking. As it is though, you are locked in with your PS5 hardware until they decide to upgrade it again and who knows if they do a midgen upgrade again (my bet is that they will).
RazzerRedux is right though. Any Current PC that doesn't need to anything than upgrade the GPU to stay ahead of the consoles once again. I upgraded to a RTX 2070 Super for my PC last year and it was a great upgrade for a system I built in 2013 for an i5 4790k. Now this year I am totally rebuilding from the ground up and passing my old system down to my daughter. I am waiting for the new Zen 3 CPU and for all the Nividia GPUs to be released before I decide on anything though. Planning on this build lasting awhile though. For once money is not going to be a factor.

MajorLazer1350d ago

PS+ costs $30 and sometimes even less for a years worth, and you get atleast 24 games a year. Hardly breaking the bank.

MajorLazer1350d ago

In terms of games, consoles are light years ahead. Nintendo & Sony exclusives are the best in the business. If I had thousands to burn though, I would build the most amazing PC in a heartbeat and play a lot of multiplats there.

RazzerRedux1350d ago (Edited 1350d ago )

"PS+ costs $30 and sometimes even less for a years worth"

Nope. Base price is $60 a year. Yeah, you can find better deals. Either way, I'm not paying for online at all with PC. Even at $30, you've invested over $200 into consoles just for online over the course of this past generation alone so my point still stands.
https://www.playstation.com...

"you get atleast 24 games a year"

I get more than that from Epic Game Store and I keep the games forever. I also get random free games on PC like I did just a few days ago:
https://n4g.com/news/236428...

That's free to own forever, not free for three days only. You can't beat PC free games, dude, because they are *truly* free.

"In terms of games, consoles are light years ahead. Nintendo & Sony exclusives are the best in the business. "

I agree. That's why I buy PlayStation consoles. I don't care about Nintendo games, personally. I have PS4 for exclusives and PC for everything else. If it were up to me, every PS game would be on PC though.

" If I had thousands to burn though, I would build the most amazing PC in a heartbeat and play a lot of multiplats there.'

You don't need "thousands" though for a solid gaming PC that still performs better than current consoles.

https://pcpartpicker.com/li...

Get Windows 10 on ebay for cheap and you've got a damn good mid-tier gaming PC right there at under $1000. Now compare that to the cost of gaming on PS or Xbox this past gen. I paid $400 for PS4 at launch. I paid $400 for PS4 Pro. If I had paid for onling gaming then I would have paid $200 at a minimum. So $1000. Now take into account the ridiculous number of sales on games with PC. See? This cost factor isn't as cut and dried as some would have you believe.

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masterfox1351d ago

it will and even more, see for example the Horizon sequel how it looks, at this moment and who knows when PC gaming won't be able to achieve a game similar to Horizon sequel looks, and it doesn't matter if the PC has a video card that has heck alot of ram and this is because one simple reason and a reason why PC gaming can't keep up with exclusive console games, and that reason is optimization. ;)

RazzerRedux1351d ago

Those are baseless statements that can never be proven as long as the game is exclusive. If you want to analyze hardware then there has to be a common denominator which, in this case, would be games that run on both systems being compared. Optimization is up to the developer. It isn't inherent in the system.

LordoftheCritics1351d ago

3rd party games and xbox games with that level of PC will provide a much bigger next gen upgrade in a larger quantity of titles.

Sophisticated_Chap1351d ago

Complete and total gibberish...

Father__Merrin1351d ago

Just watch once the games start releasing

ChiefofLoliPolice1351d ago

Thought the same for Series X....

Sophisticated_Chap1351d ago

The PS5 is barely more powerful than an RX 5700 XT. My RTX 2080 Super will squash the PS5 flat out.

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anubusgold1350d ago

@CatchThemAll Not even more exclusives its just pc doesnt shake its ass like its special we have MORDHAU and Divinity and far more fantasy games we have on PC that i have enjoyed more and played more hours than Ghost of Tsushima. PC has alot of exclusive games that dont get much attention. I have 500 steam games most i have never played because they were onsale for 10 dollars.

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RazzerRedux1350d ago (Edited 1350d ago )

@Sophisticated_Chap

Pure speculation. You have no data to support your conclusions at all.

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ssj271350d ago

Idk why pc nerds are hating on Playstation thanks to Playstation developers maximize lower end software making whatever you spend on pc better thanks to optimization. Look at what 1 tf is doing with games like lof2 got and etc. New generation standards are set once a sony says a new generation starts or if developers wanna develop for Nintendo standards that's them. Fo example now developers are going set a new standards on memory speeds pc and consoles are hugely outdated and slow. I get stressed on how slow pc are.. is unbelievable. My phone put pcs on shame thanks God 99.99% i don't need a pc to do anything now days hopefully thanks to sony and the ps5 pc speeds are things of the pass and they are instantly loading anything we do on them.. then maybe i will be back on using a pc again. They are retarded slow.

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Parasyte1351d ago

And, knowing Nvidia, will probably cost $1500+

OpenGL1351d ago

Still only 12GB of RAM? Come the fuck on, the 1080Ti launched more than 3 years ago with 11GB. Yeah improvements to compression make that RAM go further but it's not that expensive and people buying a new $1000+ card should get more.

LordoftheCritics1351d ago

Might be time to go AMD and tell Nvidia to get its act together.

Sophisticated_Chap1351d ago

AMD would need to come out with a better product for that to happen, and their Radeon division is still a few years behind Nvidia, particularly when it comes to features such as DLSS and Ray Tracing. They also need to work on the stability of their GPUs, since people have been having massive problems with black and blue screens, artifacting and excessive thermals with their 5000 series cards.

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CaptainFaisal1351d ago

ummm its 12 GB of GDDR6X Ram compared to 11 GB of GDDR5X. Id say quite a big differance

OpenGL1351d ago

It's still only 1GB of additional RAM.

DOMination-1350d ago

That's like comparing a 3.6Ghz 8-core Ryzen 7 with a 3.5Ghz single core Athlon from 10 years ago and saying it's only 100MHz faster

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 4h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle15h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188112h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio12h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga14h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218314h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga13h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan8h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10117h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos17h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-6h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac16h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10115h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic14h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead7h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Razer Kishi Ultra Review - Remote Play and Mobile Gaming Goes XL

PSLS writes: I have traveled across the country using the Razer Kishi Ultra in airports and hotels for both PlayStation Remote Play and mobile gaming in general, and I am thoroughly impressed.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 13h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 10h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 9h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 9h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 6h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 8h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 8h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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