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PS4 Has Won The Console War. How?

The results are in! And the debate can no longer be had, we are reaching ever closer to the release of the next generation so we must come to terms and understand that the PS4 has won this generation of consoles.
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lifeisgamesok1841d ago

The formula is good games + good marketing = successful console

Price also plays a factor

DarXyde1841d ago

I'm going to need to see some statistical evidence for that common sense.

bouzebbal1840d ago

Gamers first, no U turns, quality and live demos..

Eonjay1840d ago

It's because Microsoft hypes but they don't deliver. That's all. Consumers aren't stupid. They hear you and then they judge the results. Microsoft isn't dumb either. They knew they couldn't deliver on cloud but they hyped it to hell. It's like the PR department operates in a different universe.

Yppupdam1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

Eonjay, EXACTLY! Microsoft's biggest flaw is to hype the heck out of what almost always ends up being Vaporware. It tends to be a diversion or delay tactic to keep you from buying something from the competition. "The XB1 will use the power of the cloud to increase the processing power of the XB1 orders of magnitude beyond what you could imagine" *Coming soon* ( translation: "don't buy the competition's console, it is lacking compared to this XB1 future feature" )

rainslacker1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

I'm not willing to call a winner yet. There's still probably five months left. Just wait until November. Then you'll see the true might of MS plan to win this console war, and Spencer's master plan to serve the biggest crow to us despicable fan boys will come to fruition....but not for me....nope....I won't be caught off guard like that....I see through Spencer's wily diabolical ways.

Remember what those guys at Sony said.....It's a really slow meandering idle slog, with constant breaks at rest stops until a final burst at the end....not a sprint. Now Sony is going to come to realize just how true those words really are....just wait and see....just wait......wait for it.

My point being, Sony won because they made it so their customers didn't have to keep waiting for them to get their sh*t together.

Ashunderfire861840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

Lol are you kidding me?

Microsoft threw the towel already back in 2017 when they decide to call 100s of Steam PC games Xbox games! Let that one sink in...Xbox One has been on a drought of games since then, with some titles here and there.

Every year Sony has been serving games out like Mcdonald's constantly serving burgers on a busy day. The PS4 games are all fresh like a Big Mac to eat! There was so much good games on the menu like Killzone Shadowfall, Infamous Second Son, Order 1886, Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nioh, God Of War, Spiderman, Detroit, Days Gone, and so much more like Last Of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima(coming soon) fresh out the plastic! Every now and then Sony would have a value meal of discounted to free games every month! Sony serve millions everyday like Mcdonalds.

PS4 is clearly the winner this generation from the beginning and now to the end. PS4 was a winner as the most powerful based console and cheaper than the underpowered base Xbox One that was expensive! Microsoft's biggest embarrassment that tarnishes the legacy of OG Xbox and 360 that was great! Now Microsoft threw the towel making Xbox games payable on PC with better graphics and framerate! Now they are talking out of their butt saying that they are going to release 1000s of games to Series X! We all know those games are Steam PC games first and backward compatible games! Big Whoop!!!!

MADGameR1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

''Not willing to call a winner yet'' Are you retarded? This console war ENDED awhile ago. There's noway that MS is going to close the gap in total console sales. IMPOSSIBLE. illogical moron. This 8th gen console war ends the second that the next generation consoles land and there's not a single damn thing MS can do about it. You can bring out the new Halo, Gears and Forza (repeat) and it STILL wouldn't make a difference. @rainslacker You are TRULY DELUSIONAL.

NotoriousWhiz1840d ago

It's amazing how many people can't read past the first sentence.

PixelKnot1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

@First two replies
Rainslacker was being sarcastic. This part cracked a smile out of me.

"Just wait until November. Then you'll see the true might of MS plan to win this console war, and Spencer's master plan to serve the biggest crow to us despicable fan boys will come to fruition...."

Hakuoro1840d ago

haha you caught a really big fish with this post.

rainslacker1840d ago

Settle down boys. Maybe read my whole comment, because no frequent user here would think of me as a MS fanboy.

hellztourguide4201840d ago

@MADgameR

Wow. You win the "Biggest Idiot of the Day" award. Jesus. Maybe read more next time. Jesus.

DarXyde1839d ago

MADGameR,

I needed a little irony today, and you delivered a month's worth for me.

Thank you.

(Yikes, dude...)

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ifrit_caress1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

You can also say that the formula is cater to the consumer/fans instead of the publishers.

Sony's console catered to the consumer/fans and Microsoft's console catered to the publishers. We both know how that turned out.

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anubusgold1840d ago

Microsoft can just do what sony did last gen drop the xbox one price 4 times and sell it dirt cheap for the next 4 years so they can claim they won lol.

remixx1161840d ago

Lol I love how despite what you said the PS3 still stayed more expensive than the 360 for the entirety of the gen yet still outsold it.

So much for dirt cheap

bradleejones1840d ago

Funny thing being I can grab an Xbox at GameStop for $199 new...

anubusgold1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

@remixx116 Microsoft never price matched ps3 price drops it didnt need to it was in the lead microsoft just took the money.

StormSnooper1840d ago

@anubusgold
That is a very misguided description of what happened.

anubusgold1840d ago

@StormSnooper No i watched sony go into panic mode and it was outsold by the ps2 for the first two years and it had no games for the first year of launch it was one of the worse console launches in history. Price cut after price cut Sony was so desperate lol.

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NeoGamer2321840d ago

There is no console war. It only exists in fanboy heads.

For there to be a war one company has to die or bow out. Sony is in the best position so they will not bow out. Nintendo is doing great so they won't leave, and MS is doing good enough that they are not going to leave (In fact, they have expanded their gaming presence with more studios).

Thats why their use to be console wars. Coleco, intellivision, Atari, and Sega... All released consoles and have bowed out at some point. Nintendo has been around the longest, Sony second longest, and MS third longest. But for the first generation ever we are entering with 3 console vendors that have not changed for over 20 years and now four generations.

livedeht1840d ago

Hmmm...Didn't Xbox come out in 2001? And in like November?

343_Guilty_Spark1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

So you're saying a console with a $100 lower price, more power, and a better game catalog will beat a console without those hings?

TheColbertinator1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

He must be saying that. Personally I'm sure that Xbox Series X can be $200 more expensive than the PS5 and still win the next generation. I'd stake my life on it.

TheCaptainKuchiki1840d ago

First time I see a comment get this many likes and 0 dislikes lol

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Kingthrash3601841d ago

1st impression + great games + consistency + passion + brand = win

TekoIie1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Let your opposition make bad decisions? That was pretty much the one overwhelming reason this gen that decided it. Everything else was statistically minimal in impact by comparison.

Silly gameAr1841d ago

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

TekoIie1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Right back at ya buddy.

Sorry you don't want to accept the colossal fuck ups on the part of MS and Nintendo. The truth hurts, but you gotta accept the facts.

ApocalypseShadow1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Or maybe it's you that won't accept that mistakes happen. But you can get up off your @$$ and do something about it.

Sony made a mistake thinking developers were ready for programming multiple cores with Cell instead of a powerful CPU and GPU like the old days. But they made GAMES that got them back into the race ending with TLofU. Funny thing is that developers had to learn to program for multiple cores anyway. Sony now just makes it easier to do so with PS4 and soon PS5..

Nintendo made a mistake about a tablet gaming controller. But turned it around and made a hybrid tablet console you take on the go. With games to back it up.

Microsoft as usual screws up, but doesn't know if they should abandon like always for the next thing. Or try to be like Nintendo's or Sony's previously successful strategies. Try to be like the Wii with Kinect. Try to be like PS2. Try to emulate PS3 "it only does everything" with "all in one." Try to create Sony's 1st party studios, GAMES and sharing of ideas like PS4. It's obvious. Only thing they come up with themselves is how to come up with new services. It's never ***GAMES*** to overcome their mistakes.

How is it that Sony can overcome. Nintendo can overcome. But Microsoft has to get passes and excuses?

"Well, the reason the first Xbox didn't is because..."The reason Xbox 360 didn't is because..."The reason Xbox One and One X didn't is because..."

How much money are they worth again?

RamRod881841d ago

@Apocalypse Just because Xbox never "won" doesn't take away from it being a successful brand. Both the original xbox and 360 were great consoles with tons of awesome games. The original Xbox didn't sell great, but most gamers recognize it as a good system with plenty of great exclusives. The 360 succeed where the original Xbox failed and gave Sony a run for it's money. Don really messed up the Xbox one and it took Phil an entire generation to fix the wrongs to make the Xbox one a serviceable console.
What makes you think MS got a pass this gen? They got crapped on throughout the entire generation, while every once-in-awhile getting props for stuff like BC and gamepass, but hardly compares to all the articles railing them.
Sony jumped on the motion control bandwagon just like MS did. Didn't Sony copy achievements with Trophies? Let's not forget party chat, PSN, built in harddrives? Sorry to disappoint you but all these companies get ideas from each other, Sony and Nintendo isn't above this.
Nintendo did learn from it's mistakes with the Wii U, but why don't you recognize MS has been doing the same with the Series X? Oh yes, because that would take away from your daily rant about xbox.

TekoIie1840d ago

@apocalypseShadow

Thank you for agreeing with me. I know it was difficult for you, but you finally saw the light for once. I'm proud of you kiddo.

S2Killinit1840d ago

@Tekolie
I think you just got schooled

BrettAwesome1840d ago

@Ramrod88
I agree! And I'm a Sony/Nintendo gamer. Phil Spencer is the best that could have happened to xbox. Next gen will be great!

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Sunny_D1841d ago

Right so what explains PS3 coming back despite having a bad launch and outselling the 360? Also, how do you explain the Switch outselling the Xbox despite coming out 4 years later... Sony has all 4 consoles in the top 5 best selling list for a reason. But sure, blame the bad launch of the Xbox one.

TekoIie1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

Where did I talk about the PS3? Can you not count? You know that was 7th gen, right?

Koolaidude1840d ago

Winning is about sales for companies. It’s about not taking billions of losses like Sony did with PS3. They didn’t win that gen because they blessed money and all attention was on Xbox 360. Let’s not forget the huge PSN hacks as well. I see people here are scared to be replied too.

ILostMyMind1841d ago

It is nice to see users' passion for the XBO. I imagine they are American and English. In the rest of the world, Xbox is a dead and buried console.

TekoIie1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

I play on PC... You tried, you failed. Sit this one out kiddo.

hadowajp1840d ago

Europe, Japan, and the US are all that really matter as far as revenue goes. The fact that ps4 has outsold xb 2 to 1 and only out earned them by 3 billion USD last quarter shows this. I don't believe xbox will ever be first but I don't even think ms needs them to as they get so much more spent per customer to make up most of the hardware sales differences.

Sunny_D1840d ago

@hadowaj

Where did you get that figure? PSN alone makes more money than the Xbox division. So I’m pretty sure 3 billion is incorrect. Also last financial report I remember for Xbox was showing revenue being stagnant YOY as opposed to Playstation.

borneFROMblood1840d ago

@Tekolie so you agree that Xbox has no games and you rather play them on PC

Koolaidude1840d ago

You main where the most market share is for games. An American company targeting America. I’m SHOOK

anubusgold1838d ago

@TekoIie As a member of the Pc master race you disgust me.

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Z5011840d ago

"you gotta accept the FACTS"

"Let your opposition make bad decisions? That was pretty much the one overwhelming reason this gen that decided it"

link/source for this "fact"???
Otherwise...
You making things up.

TekoIie1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

Xbox One: DRM, Kinect, Blocking pre-owned games, weak 1st party support, price point. Are you disagreeing that these are colossal fuck ups? You want me to provide a source for you on something EVERYONE knows to be objectively true?

Wii U: Questionable architecture resulting in lenghty development times, unprepared for the lead between SD and HD development, questionable branding, and terrible marketing. Do I need to provide a source for something because you're 6 years old and don't know shit about the generation?

Tell me what about the Xbox One and Wii U's failures you disagree with.

rainslacker1840d ago

Sure, that helped them jump start their engines to full speed out of the gate. The amount of momentum Sony had at the start was propelled higher than it probably would have been due to being fueled by the exhaust fumes that MS sputtered out at the start.

But, it was MS dropping the ball almost every step of the way for years that kept them going, and then Sony just doing what they always do, but in the mean time, also reinforcing this idea that they deliver the goods consistently over the long term. This alone was probably Sony's biggest achievement in terms of marketing this gen, because it made tangible and very vocal what they are most known for. Delivering games. That was something I think most Sony fans felt, and sometimes expressed, but never to the levels that we saw it this gen, where it practically became a mantra in the community, and was a stark contrast to MS constant failures to deliver.

Sony didn't do much different than they ever have this gen. They made good games, marketed good games, released good games. It only seemed like they did more because MS did so little. But, in the long run, it wasn't Sony that did better because of this, because they would have done fine regardless. It was MS that was hurt more, because everything was made relative to the other, and that's what happens in a console war, and it backfired on MS, and the fan boys all gen.

TekoIie1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

You see how difficult it is to just say 'I agree with you'.

All of you tripping over your dicks to try and spin it for some reason XD

rainslacker1840d ago

I agree with your first part. But not the notion that everything else was statistically irrelevant. MS could have turned it around. May still not have beat Sony, and likely wouldn't, but it wouldn't be as bad as it was. I thought Spencer would do good, and even brought an X1 based on his enthusiasm, and knowing that he is actually a gamer and probably knew what the customers would want. But, in the end, he just turned out to be another MS errand boy, decimating MS own internal studios, only to have to rebuild them later because they came up with a service model that demanded they have a constant flow of mostly cheaply made games.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

So you think Sony just sat back and let Xbox shoot themselves in the foot? Yes let's ignore the fact that Sony has more critically acclaimed first and third party exclusive games than any other console platform. Let's ignore the fact that Sony supported indie developers while Xbox fanboys continually called indie games trash. Let's forget the fact that the PlayStation library has more than 4000 games while Xbox One has 2000 games and pads their library with 3000 games from previous generations. let's ignore the fact that Xbox continues to do the bare minimum to attract gamers while Sony is still releasing exclusives at the end of this generation.

Gamers aren't blind and they see exactly who is actually having a minimal impact on gaming and who actually makes an effort to engage gamers.

One company pushes backwards compatibility and different color controllers, while the other pushes games, games, games, games games and more games.

Stop being so disingenuous you're only fooling yourself.

TekoIie1840d ago

"So you think Sony just sat back and let Xbox shoot themselves in the foot?"

My comment:

"Everything else was statistically minimal in impact by comparison."

You tried; you failed. Learn to read.

Koolaidude1840d ago

Except that’s exactly what happened. Xbox did far better than PlayStation last gen, since as stated Sony lost billions with PS3. Xbox presented DRM policies, no sharing games, and always online. Policies Sony then took out of their presentation after seeing the reaction. If Microsoft didn’t do that, then momentum would of carried over and it would of been a different gen. Hopefully they learn from it like Sony did with PS3.

Dragonscale1840d ago

So playstations games had nothing to do with it or anything but xbox fucked up. What a load of absolute crap.

TekoIie1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

Effectively, yes. MS and Nintendo would've lost without the overwhelming majority of Sony's games releasing. They increased the gap, but were irrelevant in determining the victor.

Koolaidude1840d ago

I never understood the hype PlayStation fans put on their games. They aren’t masterpiece exclusives like Nintendo’s ( not have the attach rate) and most of the fan base play more third party games than exclusives. Could PlayStation rely on just exclusives like Nintendo? NO. Horizon was boring, Spider-Man was good but not Batman good, and I prefer to watch movies not play them. God of War was great though

RazzerRedux1840d ago

And make smart decisions in return. You seem to be desperate not to give Sony any credit.

TekoIie1840d ago

I'm actually watching the replies desperately avoid my original point. Avoid, deflect, pivot. Do whatever you can to not engage with the original point. Try harder <3

RazzerRedux1840d ago

"I'm actually watching the replies desperately avoid my original point."

lol....no you are not. You are essentially "tripping over your own dick" trying to avoid the counter-points being made.

Dragonscale1840d ago

He's just stealth trolling and downplaying. Typical denial from a salty xbox fanboy.

rainslacker1840d ago

I think he fails to realize while he did make a salient point with the first part of his comment, and I think many would agree with him, it's the last part of his comment that people are disputing. It's like he doesn't even know what he said, because he basically dismissed any and everything that happened after the launch, both from Sony's own output/momentum building, and MS continuous failures.

RazzerRedux1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

Well...he is the guy who said Obsidian's dev effort with South Park Stick of Truth equals Insomniac's Spider-man.(check his recent post history if you think I'm making it up)

So yeah.....not exactly the sharpest dude around.

FGHFGHFGH1840d ago

I think coming out with shit games for a few years hurt them pretty bad. When the xbone launched it was "selling at a faster rate" than the 360. After years of shit games even diehard xbox fans left to playstation or pc. I remember seeing xbox nation podcast guys saying they were playing on ps4 because xbox had no games lol

Dragonscale1840d ago

Really not. PS4 exclusive games are one of the main reasons of its success regardless of your denial and delusion. Just like xbone crappy lineup and lack of exclusives is one of the main reasons it was a shitty gen for xbox.

Z5011839d ago

"You want me to provide a source for you on something EVERYONE knows to be objectively true?"

You're saying people didn't buy the XB1 because of bad decisions "Let your opposition make bad decisions? That was pretty much the one overwhelming reason this gen that decided it"

Where are your stats, focus group test data to back this up? You said "fact"

Facts have data. You gave a theory/opinion.

I never said what happened didn't happen. But you said 'it did bad because of these SPECIFIC things' I'm asking. Where's your proof of this? Or, is it. Just a 'gut feeling'?

Gut feelings does not equal "facts"

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mandf1841d ago

Games games and more games

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Soulslikes Get Easy and That's OK

Lately, a number of notorious difficult ARPGs have added difficulty options. Is that a good thing or does it ruin the experience?

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Terry_B14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

As long as it is just an option, it is totally okay, but it's also OKAAAAY! To simply ignore that option.

Goodguy0113h ago

Long as fromsoft never does it. This was only expected since the soulslike genre is so popular now.

isarai11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Stuff like this really shows that people completely missed the point of that argument. The argument was never that souls likes shouldn't have a difficulty option. The argument was that if someone makes a game, particularly souls likes, that did not want to include difficulty options, that you should just respect that instead of demanding and berating the developers to add them.

Vits8h ago

I see the lack of difficulty settings as one of the key traits that defines a Soulslike. It’s not just about being challenging. It’s about how the game is built around that challenge, expecting you to learn through failure and grow by mastering its systems. Once you introduce difficulty options, you’re changing that foundation. You’re giving players a way around the intended experience, actually you are killing the whole idea of a "intended experience".

That doesn’t make the game worse, necessarily, but at that point, it’s just not a Soulslike anymore. It's a action RPG.

toxic-inferno46m ago

The Soulslike genre is a lot more than just 'hard' games. There is so much more to it than that.

In most cases, for a genre to be successful, there must be multiple entries in that genre from different franchises, some easier and some more difficult. The Soulslike genre has grown impressively well so far with most of the games being on the difficult end of the scale.

The other aspect to consider is WHAT makes Soulslike games hard. In the best examples, it isn't just because the bosses and enemies are engineered to be difficult, but because the entire gameplay (from the hard-to-master combat, to the labyrinthine levels, to the additional punishment for dying) is geared towards creating a world that seems to be trying to prevent you from making progress. Beating a boss isn't the only thing that makes you feel as though you've progressed in a Soulslike - finding a shortcut, a particular item, or learning how to defeat a particular enemy type are all forms of progression.

An 'easier' game can still exist with all those elements.

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Red Dead Redemption 2 PS5 Version Tease Turns Out to Be a Cast Reunion

Star admits he may have "misled" fans

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lukasmain1d 6h ago

Wow. Just... wow. There really are no words

Gamerscore207719h ago

Damn, I was hoping for an updated patch. Well let’s see if the rumors are still true, that it’s coming to Switch 2. There’s still hope……I hope

dmonee5h ago

Everyone just hold up a minute! 🤔 This could still be possible. Perhaps this cast member was told to hush and draw attention away from a big reveal

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Death Stranding 2 Early Copies Are Out In The Wild, Report Indicates 120 Hz Mode On PS5 Pro

Reports indicate that early copies of Kojima Productions' action-adventure game, Death Stranding 2: On the Beach, are out in the wild.

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lukasmain19h ago

Awesome. But I think I'll go 60 fps and better res personally. But we'll see. About 2 days to go for me

CrashMania17h ago

I didn't play DS1 until last year as it just didn't look like my thing at all, but I'm all in now, surprisingly enjoyed it and this is going to be even better I bet.

pwnmaster300012h ago

It’s a slow start, but when you start seeing other players creation to help you deliver it’s so much fun.

RedDevils4h ago

Is one of those games where you have to go back to it like 3-4 times before it clicks.

jznrpg4h ago

The games I’ve played 120fps I can’t really tell the difference from 60fps besides the graphics are lesser. I will check it out but most likely I’ll stick with 60fps

Jin_Sakai2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

The jump from 30fps to 60fps is far more noticeable than 60fps to 120fps. I usually stick to 60fps unless it’s a twitch shooter or fighting game.

Shane Kim1h ago

Same. It's pointless above 60 fps in single player games. I rather have better resolution, textures RT and so on.

jznrpg52m ago

I get 120fps for multiplayer pvp shooters but I quit playing those years ago so it’s not necessary for the games I play.

lukasmain1h ago

Also, why get a taste of 120fps for a long game, only to have to go back to 60fps in most others, and then, god forbid, you start to notice the difference? 60fps is the sweet spot, with much better res.