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Xbox Exec: Microsoft Believes In Supporting Past Console Generations

Xbox games marketing GM Aaron Greenberg has reiterated Microsoft's support for past Xbox console generations' games.

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Jin_Sakai1841d ago ShowReplies(15)
RpgSama1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

I think it's more about them not having any next generation games so they use the excuse of no generations to take the games the developers they bought were making and upgrade them

Chris121841d ago

Its more a case of Sony fanboys spinning something positive about Xbox and turning it negative.

It always used to be about how MS was anti-consumer. Now they have become more pro-consumer you spin it again.

yomfweeee1841d ago

@Chris12 but your claim about being pro-consumer depends on how you look at it.

If you want the most innovation, you have to leave last generation behind. Who says that isn't proconsumer? Buying a new Xbox when all the games will come out on X1... hardcore gamers don't like that.

All Sony is saying is we're moving on. If you want the best games in the business that is how it is done. You can upgrade now or move on.

Microsoft is going to abandon X1 in 2-3 years... so you're in the same position where you have to upgrade anyway.

Chris121841d ago

@yom - you never see the true power of the consoles until 2-3 years anyway and the devs get to grips with hardware. It's always been the same. Suddenly Sony have started to remove the BC from their advertising, almost certianly because the support is poor. It's PR spin and you guys are just as much lapping it up and Xbox fans do.

Chevalier1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

@Chris

"almost certianly because the support is poor. It's PR spin"

Really? Xbox generations all say hello. You want poor support? Last half of the 360 generation ring any bells? This WHOLE current generation? Extremely poor support. The Switch has had MORE exclusives than Xbox and better quality in less then half the time Xbox One has been available.

As for PR spin, really?! Xbox has had the MOST PR spin from beginning to the end of the current generation. Greenburg in particular is one of the worst for the spinning. They really should have called the Xbox One the Xbox 720 because Xbox spins so much.

As for pro-consumer, highest print run requirements of the big 3. Have to have a PAID gold account to play FREE games that are free on Switch, PS4 and PC is consumer friendly?

xX-oldboy-Xx1841d ago

Chris - PS5 has the shortest Time To Triangle of any PS console, the need for highly optimised engines to negate memory and bandwidth deficiencies are all but gone now.

Getting amazing looking games up and running is a lot easier now. For both consoles.

But Sony is pushing that for PS5 110% - md is trying to be a PC. That's not pro-consumer, that's holding back innovation on your new console.

JesusBuiltmyHotrod1841d ago

@CHris12, postive for MS? You are on the koolais bud. aron Greenberg better hope the results we see over the next few months match with PR gloss they've been putting on this situation.

Because as is, the situation is that Sony was in a position to both serve their existing platform right up until the very end, and to start pivoting resources 3+ years ago into next-gen projects that would be ready for 2020. To serve both the PS4 audience throughout, and to start serving the PS5 audience with next-gen games from day one.

And Microsoft was not. Their hardware pipeline was ready for transition this year, their first party software pipeline simply isn't.

In terms of transitions historically, Microsoft's situation is the odd man out here, not Sony's.

Trying to spin underdelivery on first party games this gen, and the inability to start next gen projects on time for a 2020 release, as some kind of pro consumer philosophy, is a neat trick. But it's just that, pure marketing gloss over a much simpler explanation: that they simply didn't have their ducks in a row, and the rebuild of the studio group won't bear fruit for another while

Sunny_D1841d ago

It’s Aaron Greenberg being reactive to any little thing Sony does. Jim Ryan mentioned PlayStation supporting console generations and he immediately had to go on twitter to talk about generations. Lmao.

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JesusBuiltmyHotrod1841d ago

@chris1...this anticonsumer , pro consumer is only used by fanboys desperate to win brownie points over another box..fact is both are ok and are just looking at different goals, but MS is doing this because their first party is behind...

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-Foxtrot1841d ago

I just think if you buy a powerful next gen console you want the focus to be on that.

If they supported their console the entire gen with games and even in the past year they wouldn’t need the feel to do it

Obscure_Observer1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

-Foxtrot

"If they supported their console the entire gen with games and even in the past year they wouldn’t need the feel to do it"

MS will continue to support 50+ million Xbox One and X owners with first party games till 2022 while Sony will leave 110+ million behind in a broken world after this damn pandemic. And at the top of that, aparently, they aren´t even worried about PS5´s price.

Those´re nothing but facts.

-Foxtrot1841d ago

How can Sony leave them behind when they've supported their console so much this entire gen that there's still games people probably haven't even bought?

For example not everyone is going to be able to buy both Last of Us Part II and Ghost of Tsushima at launch so one of them will be in the back catalogue with other games they haven't gotten round to.

If Sony was like Microsoft we wouldn't have been getting those two games this year at all, there would be nothing but third party games.

Microsoft is putting a focus on supporting previous consoles and backwards compatibility because they know they haven't got much prepared for another 1-2 years. It's not about caring about previous owners, it just means they don't really have a choice so they are making themselves look like good sports.

remixx1161841d ago

How is don't leaving 110+ million people behind when ps5 will be BC, I'm confused.

Muzikguy1841d ago

Those are not facts at all? Did you smoke those up or something? Wow....

Sony's track record shows the don't just "leave people behind". Everyone knows this except you apparently. Also, if MS isn't worried about price, why haven't they said anything about theirs? Yeah, some facts you have

russo1211841d ago

"And at the top of that, aparently, they aren´t even worried about PS5´s price." - if that's the case why haven't the price been disclosed already? Covid19 is melting your brain.

RazzerRedux1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

@-Foxtrot

"How can Sony leave them behind when they've supported their console so much this entire gen that there's still games people probably haven't even bought?"

Exactly. If anything has been left behind it is Xbox One. First party has flatly sucked this gen. Phil Spencer said it himself that they failed there. Sony can end this generation knowing they provided an incredible lineup of games. Microsoft cannot. /end

Shadowsteal1841d ago

PS4 has 2500~ games. TLOU2 and GOT are releasing this year. Third party games like COD, AC: Valhalla, Elden Ring, etc. are still coming. 7 years of solid consistent support, Sony moving onto PS5 isn't leaving 100 million PS4 players behind. There's hundreds of PS4 games left to play and dozens yet to be released.

PowerPlayaaa1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Wtf are you smoking dude. You do know that the PS5 will be BC with the PS4 right?
Man. Your fanboyism towards the other camp is so damn filthy. Be a gamer and enjoy video games. Not worshipping a damn brand like its jesus christ. Grow the fudge up man.

And making exclusive next gen games on the PS5 SHOULD BE A DAMN STANDARD. Not this BC crap. Ohh. We have to think about last gen now. Hell no. Do both. Crossgen games AND exclusive next gen games on your platform of choice. So be it the PS5 or the Series X. You buy new tech to EXPERIENCE new tech. Not Experience SLIGHLTY better games then last gen games. You want that next gen feeling. Every new gen. Thats a fact.
Not be like. Ohhh. 60 FPS and 4k. Yeeaaa dude. Its awsome. But with the same damn graphics like last gen. Except a little raytraycing. But overall. Looks the same. How can you accept that as a gamer when you buy new tech?
Microsoft could've probably announce a pong game that looks graphically the same as the original from the 70s. You probably would say:
Thats the best looking damn game ever created. Woooow. Thats the power of the Tflops maaayyyn.
Thats how fanboish you are. Wake up.

RosweeSon1841d ago

Continue to support they would need to start to continue it. Xbox haven’t supported their console all gen 1 game a year is laughable bit like your delusion. Sony aren’t leaving anyone behind it’s just what happens things move forwards not backwards PS4 still has 2 major releases to come anyone who wants to go next generation can play the majority of their games (the ones worth playing) for everyone else they can continue enjoying their PS4’s with the masses of quality games I bought mine day1 and still got plenty to play yet Xbox wanna rely on previous gens when they haven’t Barely released anything and are making excuses already for possible delays bought 15 studios not released a single in game trailer let alone an actual game. Actually think about what your saying you like Xbox we get it but to think they smashing it and on top and making Sony even remotely worried is laughable at best

TheTony3161841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Are you new to gaming? Every console generation had it's own exclusives at launch. Just because MS decided to go the PC route doesn't mean that Sony and Nintendo have to do it too. And Sony always supported their previous consoles for years. MS on the other hand dropped the OG Xbox as soon as the 360 launched.

outsider16241841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Sony leaving 110 million players behind? Facts?

What the heck are you smoking bro? Ps4 still got TLOU2 to release in June. Then July it's Ghost of Tsushima. Then you have Ass Creed Valhalla and usual sports games from EA. 110 million people will still enjoy their games. No one's left behind.

Facts!

jwillj2k41841d ago

My ps4 will work just the same once ps5 launches last time I checked, just like my ps3, ps2 and the ps1.

I guess you could say Sony has and will continue to support the 400+ million playstation owners with the launch of the playstaiton 5 in 2020.

rainslacker1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

I am always impressed at how Xbox fans think that just because MS is changing how all the rules apply, at least to themselves, that the Xbox fan boys seem to think that these rules actually need to be changed.

It's almost like living in a alternate reality. One where decades of expectations are just changed on a whim, and any reason why that may not be a good thing is met with hostility, and this fervent devotion to try and prove that rules need to change because MS says so.

Doesn't matter why MS is trying to change the rules. Doesn't matter what has been done in the past....like how MS did indeed abandon the prior gen for each of it's 2 subsequent gens so far more than the competition did, and how the competition actually continued support years after the new gen came out. Hell, this gen, Sony released it's most popular IP on the PS3 after the PS4 came out, and it wasn't even cross gen. But sure, this time Sony isn't going to support the PS4.

It's nice that MS wants to support the X1, regardless of their reasons. But they're taking that idea to the other extreme, and in doing so are marginalizing their support of the new generation. The reasons for that can be pondered on and asserted any way people want. But when it comes down to it, MS isn't releasing next gen games for a year or two after they launch the XSX. There's a fact for you, no matter how hard you or MS try to change the definition of what a next gen game means in both context and reality.

Sunny_D1841d ago

A good portion of those 110+ million are all ready to move on to the next gen of games. Sony continues to support their systems into their last year before next gen starts. TLOU2 and GOT say hello. ;)

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Obscure_Observer1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

@-Foxtrot

"Microsoft is putting a focus on supporting previous consoles and backwards compatibility because they know they haven't got much prepared for another 1-2 years. It's not about caring about previous owners, it just means they don't really have a choice so they are making themselves look like good sports."

Sure... It´s always a win win situation with you folks which MS will always turn out to be the evil company even when they make pro-consumer decisions. The moment Phil had the Scarlett announced, N4G was all about on how fast he wanted Xbox One´s failed generation to end, and how Xbox One owners wouldn´t even be able to play Halo Infinite and, don´t get started on said gamers play games from the new studios. Since Phil destroyed that FUD narrative, fanboys had no choice but create another bs narrative on how MS is the evil company by holding back game development.

The hypocrisy in some people knows no bounds.

Nyxus1841d ago

What is 'pro consumer' is also a matter of opinion. I would say it's 'pro consumer' for people who invest in a next-gen consoles that they get games that make full use of the hardware and are only available there. So in that sense, having next-gen exclusives would be the pro-consumer thing.

RazzerRedux1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Right.....cuz you always give Sony a fair shake? Hilarious. Just a few posts above you were trying to use the pandemic to shame Sony.....AGAIN! And you want to yapp about people calling MS an evil company? Are you serious?

"The hypocrisy in some people knows no bounds."

Indeed.

Obscure_Observer1841d ago

@Nyxus

"I would say it's 'pro consumer' for people who invest in a next-gen consoles that they get games that make full use of the hardware and are only available there. So in that sense, having next-gen exclusives would be the pro-consumer thing."

Fair enough. Honest question to you Nyxus: How much of a difference do you think we´re about to see between PS5´s true next gen games and Xbox Series X´s current gen games?

Chevalier1841d ago

Hypocrisy? Like how everyone is so gung ho on Xbox about how they 'support last gen. Okay so how come the support has been so bad all generation? Lol. Its hypocritical to talk about how Xbox has supported gamers when this whole generation is pretty much a write off. Sony supports their gamers beginning to end and now that's a bad thing? ! Seriously wtf are you smoking? You are seriously trying to make Sony the bad guys when they just keep releasing and supporting gamers all through the generation is laughable. Xbox has NEVER supported any generation from beginning to end in the last 3 generations.

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littletad1841d ago

So saving money and keeping your library is a bad thing? Smh, console owners are oblivious to something that PC gamers have been enjoying for decades. Can't we block this Foxtrot dude by now?

-Foxtrot1840d ago

Unfortunately not, you’re stuck with me so tough shit

Chevalier1840d ago

Really? Did the Wii U, PS2, PS3 not have full backward compatibility? Are PS5 and Series X not going to have BC? Because I don't get how PC made BC a thing over consoles?

mandf1841d ago

How about supporting the gen you're in. They have not had a good track record of 1st party support.

aconnellan1841d ago

So it’s bad that Series X games will be releasing on Xbox One for the next 1-2 years... but also they’re not supporting Xbox One?

I’m simplifying it, but that’s what I’m seeing here

Zeke681841d ago

You are not simplifying anything, you just try to twist mandf's words to your liking.
The point is, if M$ are supporting this generation, why no games to compete with Sonys Death Stranding, Days Gone, Last of Us Pt2, Ghost of Tsushima and so on in the end of current gen.
M$ surely talks alot but no show HOW they support this gen. Wait for next gen, wait for this, wait for that. They just keep on lying while Sony and Nintendo delievers, day after day, week after week, year after year.
Why do you defend a lying company like M$?

THAT is what I'm seeing here.

nirwanda1841d ago

I'm expecting ms to use this as a clever marketing tool, I,e Forza runs at 30fps Vs 60 with less cars and look at theses exclusive city tracks that can only run on series X and we have a new physics engine that takes advantage of the new processor etc.

Sunny_D1841d ago

The only reason MS are doing cross gen is because they have no faith their games will be able to sell on Xbox Series X or if their console will be able to sell as well. They need the help of whoever buys the Xbox one version of the games since they atleast have ~45 million consoles sold to soften the costs.

FGHFGHFGH1840d ago

Those "Series x" games were probably xbone games held up for the new console. Forza which comes out yearly didn't have a release this year and HALO which was out every 3 years has not come out in around 5 years. What launch titles does ms have? HALO and Forza? These were supposed to be xbone games lol. Great support

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JCOLE131951841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

I’ve mostly been an Xbox user this entire generation, but this is dumb. People upgrade consoles to play the new games that are only possible on next gen. From the first time I’ve heard that there won’t be any first party exclusives for 1-2 years, it’s been bugging me ever since. Being able to play my current library on the Series X is great and all, but I want to move onto the next generation.

I really don’t want to hear the “consumer friendly” argument either. Instead of seeing first party games taking full advantage of the new hardware, they’re just gonna be held back due to them needing to run on a console 8x less powerful and with a crippling HDD. It doesn’t take a tech savvy person to understand that. Exclusives define a console’s identity, and with that in mind, the Series X is going to feel like a One X all over again. I really wish Microsoft went with a more traditional next gen launch.

Atticus_finch1841d ago

A big part of the problem might be that MS simply did not have enough time and budget to make next gen games so they are playing it safe by releasing them on current gen. That way they save $ and sell more. It's good for MS but not good for next gen adopters. I can't help but dislike the idea because even if you put development preference on next gen hardware then the 50 mil xones get might end up paying for a bad port. It doesn't make the most sense.

Chevalier1841d ago

Really not enough time?! Almost 8 years into the system and the excuse is not enough time?! How when MS apparently spent a billion this generation on games then where are they? How is it the Switch in 3 years has MORE exclusives and 1st party games than Xbox in 8 years? Its year 18 for Xbox and at the 4th generation they didn't have enough time? That is truly laughable

jwillj2k41841d ago

They had the same amount of time as Sony. Lets see what Sony comes up with on June 4th. Sounds like bad time management to me.

rainslacker1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

MS had the budget. They didn't have the resources though. The money means nothing, if you don't put it into production. They put the money into studio acquisitions....which to be fair is what they should have done....or make their own studios, which they did make one. Everyone said they needed to do it, and they did, so, that's one criticism removed.

But then that brings up the new issue of how long it took them to do that. Yeah, they needed to get the resources to make games....although it could be argued they could have contracted out those games like Sony does with any number of 2nd party games it has in its line up....but they needed to do it sooner than the past one to two years, with studios that were making games that were set to release in the last year to next year.

And this brings us down to why MS is at where they're at now.

MS had no plans to have games ready to launch with the XSX. They had one new studio they created, and all their timelines for their already existing studios this gen, put all those games as current gen games, or games that would get pushed to a new gen, because they were behind from the start of this gen.

Spencer wrecked everything that Mattrick had built with the studios. yes, Mattrick, the guy everyone loves to hate, at least went into this gen with what appeared to be a plan to have a steady supply of games for this generation. What those games would have been, I can't say, but the first two years of X1's life seemed pretty good, with potential for the future. When Spencer took over, he cancelled project, closed studios, and then sat on his hands while they salivated over their minecraft money.

When the next gen loomed, and they realized that their biggest franchise, and last to release this gen, was going to leave them with nothing to launch the XSX with, they concocted this idea that slapping a new coat of paint on current gen, and calling it a launch title, was a great idea, and worked to make it appear to be a pro-consumer thing.

In the mean time, they started a service which promises more money with less work, so they brought up a bunch of mid-tier studios to make, "intimate experiences", and then allowed their fan base to run rampant talking about these studios being top tier, and consistently making high profile AAA games, even though the most AAA game of all of them was a rather modest(in production value) Fallout clone. And none of those studios is anywhere close to being ready to show off a game actually developed for next gen....but MS really doesn't care, so long as they can keep their console brand alive long enough to promote Game Pass to the point they can just forget about the console market.

After 5 years of Spencer, we're still at the, "Wait for" stage of this gen's console life, and that "wait for" mentality is being applied to next gen months before it even starts, with these completely insane rationalizations of, "Well, next gen games never really show what next gen is fully capable of anyways". I mean, is this level of complacency anywhere close to what we'd expect from the hardcore gaming community? How often have we heard about other publishers, or console makers being lazy because they don't bother to take advantage of something? The term, "lazy dev" when they don't try to do something the gamer wants. But now, we have the hardest of the hardcore....the fan boys...who will will jump at the chance to point out the same, yet nowhere near as egregious failings of the competition....perfectly content with what MS has done this gen, and defending the notion that it's OK for devs to just turn out games that don't try to innovate.

Sunny_D1841d ago

@chevalier

You have to account for the fact that MS had their fingers in their ears this whole gen when fans complained about wanting more first party games. They just recently decided to buy new studios when the generation is almost over so these new devs don’t even have games up and running yet or won’t be available for a while. Could be wrong but don’t count on it.

chronoforce1841d ago

They certainly had the time, budget and the studios to make whatever they needed to make but in typical MS fashion they have made unforced errors.

FGHFGHFGH1840d ago

@rainslacker

"I mean, is this level of complacency anywhere close to what we'd expect from the hardcore gaming community?"

These people aren't hardcore gamers, they're the same people who supported kinect and power of the cloud

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Obscure_Observer1841d ago

@JCOLE13195

"From the first time I’ve heard that there won’t be any first party exclusives for 1-2 years"

Exactly! That´s why you imho, you should wait and see what kind of innovation PS5´s true next gen games will bring in comparison with SX´s "current gen" games. What most people fails to understand is the fact that you won´t deliver next gen level experiences by just having your hardware upgraded. Naughty Dog for instance has been using an old PS3 engine upgraded/modified for the PS4 since day one. It´s PS3 tech! How "next gen" ND went with the PS4? How many Playstation studios has tailor-made PS5´s next gen engines to truly harness the full power of the console to deliver those games day one?

I say, wait, see, compare, then judge.

Zeke681841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Both Uncharted 4,Lost Legacy and Last Of Us Pt 2 is using a heavily optimized build for PS4 / Pro so why are you lying?
The "quote" you make about the PS3 engine is only true for the Last Of Us(1) PS4 port...

Obscure_Observer1840d ago

@Zeke68

"Both Uncharted 4,Lost Legacy and Last Of Us Pt 2 is using a heavily optimized build for PS4 / Pro so why are you lying?"

Lying? Why do you think both Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy have the same resolution and framerate on the Pro, dude? Why do you think both God of War and Horizon looks better while both runs at higher resolutions on the Pro. I might be dead wrong, but I think you´ll understand what I´m talking about when DF confirms TLOU 2´s resolution and performance to be the same as Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy. Just wait for it

mandf1831d ago

You are embarrassing yourself just stop. I'm at a loss of words.

LordJamar1840d ago

Then don’t buy a series x or sell your previous Xbox consoles and buy a ps5 and move on OR maybe wait until you see the games instead of worrying about a subject you know nothing about and only brought up by others is the sole reason you have any concern about it in first place by others who know nothing about it let them show infinite And any other games they have look at it if all you can think about it what was held back then don’t get a Xbox.

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Phil Spencer Teases 2026 As A "Really Special Year" For Xbox

2026 will mark the 25th anniversary of Xbox, and Phil Spencer has teased it as a "really special year" for the games division.

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TheEroica2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

You got downvotes by pathetic gamers for feeling hopeful about good games coming out next year. Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy? It is pretty neat to see people's world view blow up in front of them as they realize Microsoft has put themselves in a driver's seat that Sony hasn't been able to touch all generation.... What's even more pathetic is the same people downvoting you are the same people wishlisting Microsoft games on their ps5s 😂

P_Bomb2d ago

“Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy?”

My dude your post history shits on EVERYTHING. You never have a good thing to say about anything lol! 🤣

PanicMechanic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Getting ready for those GaaS reveals! Sony is a shadow of themselves this gen.”

You literally said this a couple of days ago. Start applying the clown make up, you hypocritical jester

derek2d ago

Yep we'll see, they have alot releasing next year.

RaidenBlack2d ago

NGL, next year might be one of the best years in gaming ... starting off with RE9 and GTA VI ...
and then all the good games that's been cooking
Pragmata, Sands of Time, Saros, Gears E-Day, 007 First Light, Blood of Dawnwalker,
Mortal Shell II, Onimusha, Marvel1943: Rise of Hydra
current-gen only Infinity Ward's CoD, Duskbloods
+ My guess: Wolverine, Exodus, Mudang, Crimson Desert, Clockwork etc ...
~ seems like it might get too stacked

1Victor2d ago

@rokos:”Hopefully “
I downvoted you not for been hopeful but because I have seen the same “NEXT YEAR WILL BE SPECIAL “ comment for the last 10+ and hasn’t seen anything special from Microsoft.
I hope next year will be the one that everyone been waiting for since the last 3 years of the Xbox 360, it have to be after over $80 billions spent on acquisitions.

Lightning772d ago

So the new excuse is they don't count because it's from the ABK now huh. I guess all those 3rd party games count even less because they don't own them. According to your always crappy logic.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

Lol. You haven't seen anything special? Do you even game?

OtterX2d ago

Always with the "next year..."! 😂

neutralgamer19922d ago

I don't know they have delivered this year and even last year. And they have a lot more content in the pipeline right now than anyone else. We can't just keep hating on MS

Indiana Jones
South of midnight
Avowed
Flight simulator
Hell Blade 2
Minecraft update
Gears of war reloaded
Indian Jones:expansion
Gears E day
Clockwork revolution
Fable
Doom the dark ages
The outer worlds 2
Grounded 2
Call of duty

OtterX2d ago

How many of those titles were just buyouts of companies that were going about making their games anyways? *Throws cash - "Oh look what we made!"

dveio2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This list, that's been posted again, and again, and again in every single topic like this, contains almost nothing, literally almost nothing from Microsoft's own creational thoughtprocess.

It's a bunch of former 3rd party IPs.

Now even slowly returning to Playstation in some cases like Indiana, Hellblade, probably Starfield soon too, after they were made exclusively to Xbox on purpose.

Due to Microsoft's lack for own IP material except Halo & Forza. Which, the lack of, was the sole reason for all of it to happen in the first place anyway. Please don't pretend it wasn't.

And just look at all the games that come from Obsidian alone.

You really think Obsidian wasn't already working on Avowed and South of Midnight even without Microsoft buying Zenimax?

Microsoft delivered nothing but cheques.

OtterX2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@dveio THIS. Lol, this dude thinks Call of Duty wouldn't exist without Microsoft! smh 😂

neutralgamer19922d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Common narrative I see often — that Microsoft shouldn’t get credit for the games its studios release because they “just bought them.” But this viewpoint ignores key context and sets a double standard that other platform holders aren’t held to

No one is saying these games wouldn't exist at all without Microsoft. But let’s not pretend that having a trillion-dollar company backing a studio doesn’t make a massive difference. Obsidian never had AAA funding before the Xbox acquisition. Pillars of Eternity was crowdfunded, and their resources were always stretched thin. Now they’re working on Avowed, with proper support behind it.

Ninja Theory’s Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice was made by around 20 people, using borrowed equipment and doing mocap in a boardroom. It was a passion project held together by tape and willpower. Today, Hellblade II exists because they were given resources, time, and freedom — something many developers don’t get unless they’re owned by a company that believes in their vision.

ZeniMax (Bethesda’s parent company) was in real financial trouble before the Microsoft acquisition. Reports and insider accounts have pointed out how much they needed a cash infusion. And while some people want to write off Xbox’s ownership of Bethesda titles, they forget the alternative could have meant layoffs or even closures.

The same goes for Activision Blizzard. Would you really prefer the company to stay under Bobby Kotick, after all the documented workplace misconduct and toxic leadership issues? Say what you want about Microsoft, but their acquisition brought accountability and change to a company that desperately needed it.

At the same time, Xbox gets hated on for doing what every major company does. Sony bought Housemarque, Bluepoint, Insomniac — but no one says Spider-Man 2 “doesn’t count” because of that. Why does Xbox get treated differently for acquiring struggling or undervalued developers and giving them a chance to thrive?

And the idea that Xbox locks games away is outdated. They're pushing cross-platform releases, cloud gaming, Game Pass, and backward compatibility more than any other platform holder. They're not forcing all studios into live service. If anything, their upcoming lineup is less GAAS-heavy and more focused on narrative and creativity — Avowed, South of Midnight, Clockwork Revolution, Fable, Perfect Dark, Towerborne, and others show real variety.

Whether people like it or not, Xbox is now the biggest publisher in the industry and owns the most gaming IPs. But what matters more is how they treat their studios. Most of these teams were previously stuck making AA games with limited scope — now they’re getting the tools and support to aim higher.

So when people say “Microsoft didn’t make those games,” they’re missing the point. It’s not about who started the studio — it’s about who enabled them to do their best work. You don’t have to love Xbox to admit they’ve helped a lot of developers and are taking a player-first approach.

Instead of writing off everything they do, maybe try recognizing the good they’re doing for both devs and gamers. At the end of the day, we should want more studios to succeed — no matter who owns them

BeHunted2d ago

I'm surprised Clockwork Revolution (BioShock meets Dishonored) isn't getting more media attention. The game looks interesting and reminds me of the old RPG games.

anast2d ago

The only good game on that list is Flight sim. The rest are either average or will be average. It's not a good look for MS.

TheEroica2d ago

My god.... Look how many comments are upset about microsoft's successes... 😂 This may be my new favorite thread. Not one gamer saying thanks for all the goodness coming their way, just bitter anger and downvoting the very games they themselves will purchase throughout 2026.... Sony really worked you guys over this generation.... Condolences.

DivineHand1252d ago

@neutralgamer1992 You said what needed to be said.

I have heard for years from older gamers that fanboys are the biggest issue with any fanbase. They will defend or gloss over negative news as long as the correct logo is on the box and they bash the competing platform no matter how much good they are trying to bring.

Right now their advocacy for PlayStation is elevating that platform so high that Sony no longer believes they need to do anything to satisfy their loyal fanbase like they did in the PS4 days.

I just hope most of them will eventually start advocating for themselves and encourage others to do the same. No one should blindly support one platform because these companies do not care about anything other than profit.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Hunted

And first proper game done by the studio with proper AAA budget and saying it will be released when ready

Anast

I believe we went through this before that you are objectively wrong. Meta critic, user reviews, game sales. In Playstation top 10 best selling games were 5 from Microsoft studios

Otter

No this dude is saying so many other studios wouldn't be thriving without MS money and people would be getting abused physically and mentally with Bobby kotick and his side kicks

Also maybe look up how the original founder of Bethesda and zenimax was kicked out of his own company by his best friend lawyer. So that was always a shady place and had been struggling financially before MS paid a premium of almost 7 billion

Eroica

I use to be a die hard Playstation fan and now I only have a Pc. I see how these fans are so toxic. They just can't handle any positive news regarding Xbox. When the best selling games on playstation are Xbox titles. Look at Forza horizon being best seller and that's years old game by MS. I guess ms don't deserve credit for that success too since they are the only company in gaming making acquisitions

Forget the fact Sony paid 3.6 billion for bungie and MS 6.9 for zenimax. Which investment has turned out better

Destiny and marathon with a lot of controversy

While zenimax output is nothing short of amazing compared to what bungie has released

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Yeah it's tricky. "Xbox" has morphed to mean different things to different people.
Console, now Windows, GamePass, and the cross platform games. There's a mix of attitudes towards all those things individually, and maybe an overarching attitude towards MS. But can't argue that the game companies MS recently bought continue to flourish, and GamePass PC has been a great value over the last year.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@OtterX
You're the dude mad at your exes new guy. She's with someone else... get over it.

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Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They've had good output so far. So waiting for those games shouldn't be a problem.

Who cares if they're buy outs of companies or whatever excuse you want to make. They're games that are being distributed to other console. Play the games and enjoy it instead of fanboying or complaining.

ocelot072d ago

They going to be a he best and biggest publisher on Xbox, Playstation and PC next year. They not really said anything about Switch 2 though spite claiming to be big supporters.

quenomamen2d ago

If you call making one last Xbox before going full Sega, as Great. Then yea.

TheEroica2d ago

Doesn't feel like you're paying attention to what's happening.

RhinoGamer882d ago

It will be, his net work will hit 50 million and he plans to buy a new mansion in Cape Cod. Thanks everyone! #failup

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Halo: Combat Evolved Remake reportedly planned to release in late 2026

Xbox Game Studios' Halo: Combat Evolved Remake is reportedly planned to release in late 2026 to celebrate 25 years of Xbox.

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Goodguy015d ago

Dear God it's been 4 years since infinite and no official update on anything lol.

Tacoboto5d ago

No official update on anything?

They replaced studio leadership
They changed the studio name
They announced the change to UE5
... all while supporting Infinite

The support to Infinite isn't what it originally should have been but they've still been providing tons of official updates over the years, and as recently as two months ago added a brand new weapon.

GamerRN5d ago

I think remaking Halo Combat Evolved, and going to 2 and 3 again, will help give the studio an idea of how to make a Halo game feel like Halo again

Tacoboto4d ago

Infinite did feel like Halo, that's not what the complaints were...

The complaints were almost literally everything else. Monetization, netcode and desync, the campaign structure, story, and single biome, the weaker-than-expected post-launch content.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

Gotta agree. Infinite felt like halo.

Profchaos5d ago

Dev times in modern days 4 years of silence isn't unheard of when things are running smoothly.

And around 6 months ago 343 did show a tech demo of ue5 using halo assets so it's not radio silence.

Given all the shake ups i am more surprised we're getting anything next year at all.

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

They coulda started with Halo 3 remake ... I know Halo CE remaster was not proper with the art style but still, remaking after a remaster seems dull, when Halo 3 and Reach have started to show some age.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Yeah I hate they used Halo reach artstyle. Hope this remake feel authentic yet fresh

--Onilink--5d ago

Probably the simplest to work around with. They are reportedly doing it in UE5, so its just as much an Anniversary thing, as its probably the studio getting familiar and setting up their tools and processes in the engine with an actual game, to facilitate the development of the next Halo

Profchaos5d ago

I'm guessing combat evolved has a smaller scope in general the later half of the game features a ton of backtracking and reused assets making it a easier game to remake on a deadline

Its also a better choice if this is the first game to be multiplatform mind you I think it's pretty much a given that anyone with a passing curiosity has played this by now in some way be it pc or brought a used console for a few bucks

darthv725d ago

This will likely come to PS5 at the same time. 25 years of XB.... shared with PS.

Obscure_Observer5d ago

It´s gonna be among best sellers on PS Store next year regardless.

raWfodog4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I would love to see Lost Odyssey come over to PS5. I would definitely buy that again. That was the first game that I played on my 360. Loved the story and battle system. One of the best JRPGs of all time in my opinion.

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Why a Bloodborne Sequel Could Never Be a True 'Bloodborne 2'

If FromSoftware's Bloodborne ever gets a sequel—and that's a big if—it won't be able to simply pick up where its predecessor left off.

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gold_drake13d ago

probably due to some.of the endings true.

but u can still continue it on and subsequently end it for good.

The_Hooligan12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I wonder if they could do a prequal where you play as part of the first hunt and see the blood research and the downfall of the healing church and the remaining hunters.

zaanan12d ago

That is a super great idea, I would 1000% pay full price for this! Only if Miyazaki directed, obviuosly. Bloodborne hooked me in a way Dark Souls never did.