PS5 And Xbox Series X GPU Difference Won’t Matter, Tempest Engine Is Awesome – Helheim Hassle Dev

Perfectly Paranormal’s creative lead Ozan Drøsdal talks about next-gen consoles.

[caddytrek]

I am actually really excited about Tempest, I imagine something like Uncharted in VR in a jungle where all the animals can be heard positionally in 3D all with movement instead of only 3 or 4 things.

I imagine listening to the movements of the enemies as they move around causing a flock of birds to take flight and fly over your head in full 3D motion sound while a breeze rustles the leaves from behind you to your front of you as a panther sneaks up behind you ect.

Having the ability to aurally track the motion of nearly unlimited objects will offer crazy levels immersion especially when combined with PSVR 2.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

I agree man. Or just imagine what this does for a co-op horror game in VR. Just imagine "A Quiet Place"-like game in VR where sound is critical and you actually have to watch your steps when there are debris on the floor (such as empty bottles or cans, etc)that could make noises which could mean death, lol.

You don't have a map, or a HUD really. And you have mostly rely on your sense of sight and hearing

I'm really excited for what's to come, especially in VR.

[Kaiou]

haha I like your example. yes that would be awsome.

[jerethdagryphon]

Hrm outlast or outcast whatever it was called with full 3d audio would be a bit much

[Jin_Sakai]

I’ll take a 100% difference in SSD over 17% difference in GPU any day.

I’m also excited for the Tempest engine. Really happy that Sony has put effort on improving the audio.

[NewMonday]

Texture quality on consoles has always been limited by console memory and speed. checkout this clip explaining why Megatexturs didn't workout as planned on consoles. the PS5 seems deliberately designed to eliminate these issues.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Vits]

On PC is pretty much the opposite a 100% of difference in SSD have little to no impact in games (hell, you can argue that even a 400% difference doesn't do much either). While a 17% difference in GPU is a huge deal and the difference between maximizing everything or not.

But with games beeing made with SSD in mind. That might change. So I'm waiting to see how it will play out.

[NewMonday]

@Vits
Because most developers still make games based on HDDs on PC.

But Star Citizen is practically unplayable without an SSD.

[Vits]

@NewMonday

The difference between a SSD and a HDD is clear as day. And there are already a couple of games that suffer tremendous when installed on a mechanical drive. Gujian 3 for example become a pop in festival.

However between SSDs there is very little gain even with huge speed differences. My computer for example features a 970 EVO (3500 MB/s) and a MP300 (1600 MB/s). That is a 120% speed difference but in games that is not noticeable. Even while using editing softwares like Sony Vegas, I don't feel a difference.

As I already mentioned. Yes, with games targeting a SSD from their conception that might change. But only time will tell, as currently there isn't a game out there to do so.

[Jin_Sakai]

@Vits

On PC is pretty much the opposite a 100% of difference in SSD have little to no impact in games (hell, you can argue that even a 400% difference doesn't do much either). While a 17% difference in GPU is a huge deal and the difference between maximizing everything or not.”

That’s because PC is an open platform and you have to factor the lowest common denominator.

The super fast SSD will be a game changer for Sony’s first party studios who will take full advantage of the hardware.

[Vits]

@Jin_Sakai

That is why I'm saying that this might change with games being made with the SSD in mind. BUT they have to prove that will be the case. As there is no precedent for a bump on SSD speed mattering for games after they left the old Sata standard behind.

[OB1Biker]

And the SSD is only half of the story when the whole chip is optimized for it

[Melankolis]

@Vits
"That is why I'm saying that this might change with games being made with the SSD in mind. BUT they have to prove that will be the case. As there is no precedent for a bump on SSD speed mattering for games after they left the old Sata standard behind."

Ha. Fair enough. Sony has to prove it. I'm being optimistic here, i don't think Sony put that fast & more expensive SSD (with smaller capacity) just to eliminate loading time.

[DerfDerf]

All that says is that you know absolutely nothing about tech.

[Jin_Sakai]

“All that says is that you know absolutely nothing about tech.“

I think you should tell yourself that. First party developers will really take advantage of the SSD which will be more important than a 17% more powerful GPU.

[mandingo]

Sorry ur console of choice is weaker bud. Stop the damage control. No one in their right mind takes a faster ssd over more power.

[EasilyTheBest]

"I’ll take a 100% difference in SSD over 17% difference in GPU any day."

Yes you probably would right now, but if it was Microsoft with the fastest ssd & Sony with the better gpu & cpu your comment would be different. Something along these lines perhaps..

"I’ll take a 30%+ difference in GPU/CPU over a faster SSD any day"

[Toncsipapa]

Ofc you are ....thats the only specs in ps5 better:D now when xbox is stronger ps5 specs doesnt matter
:D:D i like sony fanboys

[dreadz74]

lol the SSD is not gunna produce better graphics smdh.

[hectorius]

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[buffig]

Theres a fundamental misunderstanding when it comes to the significance of this SSD. Lots of people online seem to be saying that an nvme m.2 drive makes minimal difference to pc gaming. You have to remember, when it comes to pc gaming and even the series x, the SSD is just a location for storing data and very little surrounding that technology has changed. Sony even demonstrated, if you simply took a drive 100x faster than which is available in the PS4 and placed it in a PS4, the difference would only be in the region of 3-4x better loading speeds. Sony then took on the task of removing every single obstacle in the path of that speed and completely designed the architecture of the console around it. So 100x faster, equates to exactly that. It's so fast that entire level data can be streamed as you turn to face it. People comparing this technology to pc gaming, only highlight their lack of understanding as to how significant and impactful Sony's efforts in this field are

[Jin_Sakai]

@mandingo

“Sorry ur console of choice is weaker bud. Stop the damage control. No one in their right mind takes a faster ssd over more power.“

People will choose the console that has a history of delivering amazing games. A 17% more powerful GPU isn’t going to change anyone’s mind. A 100% faster SSD is just icing on the cake.

[morganfell]

"lol the SSD is not gunna produce better graphics smdh."

It does affect what you see in some ways. An example already discussed by developers is how an ultra fast SSD can actually allow for faster physical travel through an environment. One example previously provided discusses how rapidly Spider-man can move through New York because current gen is limited by how fast the buildings can fill the environment which is more of a HDD contraint.

https://www.wired.com/story...

"That’s just one consequence of an SSD. There’s also the speed with which a world can be rendered, and thus the speed with which a character can move through that world. Cerny runs a similar two-console demonstration, this time with the camera moving up one of Midtown’s avenues. On the original PS4, the camera moves at about the speed Spidey hits while web-slinging. “No matter how powered up you get as Spider-Man, you can never go any faster than this,” Cerny says, “because that's simply how fast we can get the data off the hard drive.” On the next-gen console, the camera speeds uptown like it’s mounted to a fighter jet. Periodically, Cerny pauses the action to prove that the surrounding environment remains perfectly crisp. (While the next-gen console will support 8K graphics, TVs that deliver it are few and far between, so we’re using a 4K TV.)"

The PS5 has custom silicon to assist the SSD.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. The Division 2 devs have stated they can't add motorcycles or horses, as without an SSD it takes too long to load in. Now with an ultra fast SSD that will not be an issue.

Extra Teraflops lose their benefit if they are bottlenecked.

[carlosjrix]

You will be disappointed if you think that having higher ssd speed will improve the graphic quality having a lower gpu, cpu and ram configuration. Has no sense.

[Jin_Sakai]

@ArmyVetGamer

“Just curious, who is saying 17% difference?“

https://ibb.co/BwtDRMt

[skiggy34]

Yeah we'll see. When no 3rd party devs take advantage of the Sony SSD and all 3rd party devs take advantage of the XSX cpu and gpu power you may retract your statement. Just an FYI, all an SSD is going to do is load a game faster. You will not get any better graphics, frames etc etc from an SSD. I have had one for 3yrs and all is does is boot my pc up faster than a regular hard drive. Also XSX has an SSD also. So a PS5 game may load 1.5 seconds faster than the XSX but XSX will do 4k 60fps at high to ultra settings while PS5 does 4k 30-60 at maybe high settings..

[skiggy34]

If the PS5 clocks run maxed out all the time then the XSX is 18+% more powerful. When the gpu clock on the PS5 downclocks the XSX GPU can be anywhere from 20-30% more powerful. In tech terms that's a LOT of power...

https://gamingbolt.com/ps5-...

[gamer7804]

Dolby Atmos is really cool when I can’t use my entertainment setup a good pair of Dolby atoms headphones does a fair job.

[silenthillstrangler]

Except you don't need Dolby Atmos headphones at all because it is virtual Dolby Atmos and all done by the system not the headphones.

[gamer7804]

yah true, just a good pair of headphones @silent

[Muzikguy]

All that is great. It really sounds like a ton of development time to me. Hopefully not

[XBManiac]

PS4 PSVR has its own sound chip and it improves sound, as well as liberates PS4 CPU and GPU from some tasks... PSVR with a good pair of Headphones is really better than PS4 and PS4 Pro default sound output. I can't imagine how PS5 can improve it with so much power as it will bring for positional HiQ audio... It "sounds amazing". Thanks, Sony, for innovating with VR, Sound, haptic imput and provide the tools for developers. I hope PC adopts all of this as an standard and improves it ASAP, too. It can be a return for sound cards and a wide variety of new controllers, joystics and 3D peripherals for PC, thanks to PS5 "standarization" of new imput modes and PC VR+AR following it.

[IRetrouk]

What? How are sony over selling their tech? How is it just an amd feature? Cerny explained what the tempest engine was:

"With the PlayStation 4, audio typically gets a very small chunk of available processing power, or even less than the SPU (synergistic processor unit) cores of the Sony PlayStation 3’s Cell processor. By comparison, the PSVR virtual reality headset had 50 different sound sources available. The Tempest Engine has enough processing ability (with a kind of processing called single instruction, multiple data, or SIMD) as all of the PS4’s eight-core processing capability combined — just for 3D audio."

Heres the link to all the info on tempest

https://venturebeat.com/202...

So far sony gave every detail of their audio chip, from power to how it's made, it's a custom gpu that was made more like the cell it has more power than all of ps4s cpu power, that's a crazy amount of power for an audio engine.
Then theres the ssd.....that's something else? No?

[angelsx]

that could happen probably next gen ps6

[WickedLester]

"lol the SSD is not gunna produce better graphics smdh."

@dreadz74

And neither is a mere 17% power difference. Geez you Xbots are SO eager to claim this meaningless spec sheet victory you are not even bothering to look at it for what it really is. The R E A L I T Y is that the actual differences between multiplat games are going to be so negligible, you will need a magnifying glass to even see them. So congratulations! You win the pre-launch spec sheet crown. Woohoo! Your merit badge is in the mail.

[waverider]

No matter how much thet try. They cant find a studio talking about teraflops. Some still dont understand that the big jump next gen isnt rez. That the smallest. Because of the mid gen upgrades.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

How come we aren't seeing standard PC SSDs improve graphics over standard HDDs despite being significantly faster? I think Sony PR is in full over drive...every article is Tempest will do this or do that, TFs don't matter anymore despite the PS4 and Xbox One X showing that TFs do matter, or SSDs will improve graphics...

I want hear from big 3rd devs like Bethesda, Epic, Valve, 4A games, GearBox, Infinity Ward, CDPR etc.

[skiggy34]

@IRetrouk
Yes Sony would build that for no reason. Tell me what happened with the cell processor that was supposed to be the next miracle in tech. No dev knew how to use it nor wanted to. Hence why 360 games were better looking and performing. The SSD Sony put in the PS5 is a very fast SSD. No pc has this yet so that means NO 3rd party dev will take advantage of it. It would not be cost effective to make a totally separate multiplat game to use PS5s SSD which really isn't going to do anything more than the XSX's SSD except maybe load the game faster. There are NO other advantages to an SSD and that's why Cerny showed how fast the game booted up. If it had advantages elsewhere they would have shown that. Sorry but its just an SSD. resolution and frames will be better on XSX hands down, end of discussion, its a fact and even DF has stated that. Every REAL tech site has stated that.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

3rd party engines are made to parity optimizations across all platforms. That's how they're always made. At best there could be a res or frames difference but that's about it.

[russo121]

By common sense and by your logic no need to buy the more expensive system.

[Melankolis]

Couldn't agree more. Most of 3rd party companies, when parity is achieved, they won't do anything unnecessary. If by anything the more advanced console gain more framerates or resolution, consider that a bonus.

[porkChop]

This is clickbait. The dev said it won't matter *for them* because the consoles are overkill for anything they'll be developing. He was not making a general statement like the headline implies. I see gamingbolt is still pulling the same crap that made me stop reading their site years ago.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Gamingbolt click bait? You jest surely?

[Kaiou]

I mean we have the Witcher on switch........ so.. , imo GPU difference acts as a sort of free advertising throughout the generation which is also important tbh. Look at this gen we still get the "best console to play Xyz" with every major game release and digital foundary articles.

[SolidGamerX]

"PS5 And Xbox Series X GPU Difference Won’t Matter", a statement I suspect we'll be hearing from most devs all next gen.

[gold_drake]

thats what Ive been saying. i dont know why Microsoft needs to start any sort of drama again. i dont care about how powerful it is, i want my games to be runnin on it. i want great games with great visuals and audio and great story.

its just ridiculous the whole thing.

[Ulf]

Are we really taking the word of a guy who works on one console, and not the other, and also blows his own horn right after the fanboy drivel?

[ILostMyMind]

"Perfectly Paranormal’s Helheim Hassle is currently in development for the Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, and PC."

[extermin8or]

Anyone that's read the digital foundry interview with mark Cerny and has a decent understanding of tech shoukd know that the TERAFLOPS of the cards is a cheap on paper way of calculating power and wont accurately represent the performance of these consoles given sont has gone for a slightly different design that functions less like a pc. The end result I suspect will be very very very similar.

[Imalwaysright]

Where is this idea that tflops is the only advantage the Series X has over the PS5 coming from? The series X is superior in every way except the SSD.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

They sure mattered for the PS4 and the Xbox One X. Now they don't?

Cerny is 🥴🥴🥴

[ILostMyMind]

Are you comparing PS4 and XBX?

Anyway, PS4 wins.

[jalutaja]

Why most of You act like ps5 was engineered by technical geniuses and xsx by china sweatshop workers.
Sorry, but by compering this gen update, ps4 pro not only weaker but also designed with flaws (noise).

[WickedLester]

Same reason why a lot of Xbox fans want to act like the power difference between these two systems is like a generation apart. Its ridiculous and frankly naive to think that. Both consoles are WELL within the same ballpark of power/performance. Games are going to look amazing on BOTH consoles. Just because the XSX wins the spec sheet comparison, doesn't mean that games are suddenly going to look like trash on PS5. Xbox fans have the spec sheet bragging rights. Good for them! A year from now, no one will give a shit.

[Nitrox]

Well said!!!

[Destiny1080]

Xbox did a great Job and it will take internal Teams to take advantage of the extra power

Outside of a few games, im thinking forza most will settle for easy pc porting and a easier Development cycle because i don't think phil is concerned with adding more Development Time and Cost outside of the big three

Picture this, you walk outside into a Scene, which on the ps5 it could have 16 gigs worth of textures on the xbox 10 gigs of textures

Every Advantage the ps5 has over the Xbox will be utilized by every PlayStation Development Team because its easy to develop for and they dont have to worry about pc porting

[SurgicalMenace]

How do you even TV, dude, since that thing noises all the time? Stupid flawed TV, you should be quieter like the bookshelf.🤣

It's funny that all you guys are talking about the noise of the Pro, meanwhile ALL those games NOT available on that quiet Xbox 1X should be more telling of where the flaws are.🤷🏾‍♂️

[Imortus_san]

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[Hungryalpaca]

Found the 6 year old. Does your mom know you’re on the internet?

[AmUnRa]

He is not Imortus_san, but infact Immature_san😉

[Wotbot]

It doesn’t matter, they are never going to use its full power, it’s kind of staring the obvious.

[ADECENTBOY777]

AS I SAID before, the difference is pretty small. So I do not expect big differences on graphical level! BUT I do know, that PS5 has a faster SSD, that's a fact! PS5 has also other advantages over xbox x series. And they will be visible, believe me! :)

[slavish0]

what other advantages?

[ADECENTBOY777]

As said, the RAM in PS5 is unified, which is better for development and there is no slow ram in PS5. Even if people say the slower ram in the new box is for OS, but guess what, the games are running on OS. The xbox OS is of course windows, which is always a problem for programs to access the bare metal compared to a lighter OS, like linux or PS5 OS which should be a light one, easy one and super user friendly, like Netflix - these are the parameters I've heard of regarding PS5 OS.
The PS5 SSD is faster, we already know that, BUT there is also innovation on controller and audio level compared to MS machine.
The difference on GPU level is smaller than in case of xbox x and PS4 Pro, so I am totally sure that the difference will not be so big as others here expect.
The PS5 has a controller with unique features and 3D audio in a separate module, devs loving it. MS did not bring anything new to the table here.

[russo121]

Lots of exceptionally exclusive stream of games plus a lot of new IPs. Go ask that kind of treat to MS, and they'll give you, well, Tflops and resolutions and memory bandwidth and empty jargon.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

ADECENTBOY777

Technically they both have a unified memory.

MS could have went when the same ram as the PS5 but they wanted more bandwidth. More bandwidth increase heat so the added slower RAM to the pool and for the OS. The Series X having a split design is inaccurate. It is not like the Xbox One at all.

[Hungryalpaca]

You have 0 idea what you’re talking about. You’re obviously a kid.

[ADECENTBOY777]

Hungryalpaca

Well, you're wrong. I work as information technologist and senior consultant. I worked with different hardwares for many years and tested a lot back in the day. So let me ask you and the guys who liked your comment, what is your profession? Cause everyone who thinks that the new box is that much better on power level, has clearly no idea about hardware and how IT works. You might be xbox fans and the truth might heart you, I get that, but it doesn't change the fact, that the PS5 delivers the better package, that's why the devs prefer it over the next box. The study sad it, some devs already talked about it. You know, the truth will never change, even if you guys doesn't accept it :)

[PyroMessiah86]

What about the CPU and RAM difference?

Xbox Series X: CPU, GPU, and RAM
PS5: SSD

Let's not forget Xboxs SSD is already much much faster than anything before also allowing instant transitions and minimal loading.

So...it's pretty clear which console is technically superior. MS just need those studios they brought pumping out some classics which it sounds very promising so far.

[xenz]

CPU difference is 0.1GHz and RAM is split into two modules where 6GB are operating at slower speeds than PS5 and the rest is a bit faster. So CPU and RAM is basically the same

[slavish0]

they are not the same stop lying. os ram is slower on xsx thats it. game ram is fast. cpu is faster. gpu is faster. it has larger ssd plus dx12 ultimate features. No need to make up stuff. ps5 will still be great

[CaptainCook]

PS5 CPU and GPU is variable Frequency, not locked.

[Hungryalpaca]

Someone doesn’t understand technology.

[ADECENTBOY777]

Well, it is not only SSD which is better in PS5. Memory is unified, easier to develop for and there is no slow and fast memory. If the PS5 OS is a light one, which it will be, it will give devs more memory, than the box, since Windows is not a light OS. From design point of view, unified memory is a better choice. WHY? Don't you remember PS3 and xbox back in the day? PS3 had a split memory and developers hated it and sad, that a unified memory, just like in the xbox is better. Mark Cerny traveled the whole world and talked to a lot of developers, MS did not do the same. Of course MS talked to developers as well, but not on the same level as SONY did.

CPU is slightly better in the box, but PS5 has its own module for sound, MS doesn't. So this might even the odds.
GPU is better in the box, that's true. The difference is not that huge though and devs say all the same, the difference doesn't matter and it is easier to harvest the power of PS5, meanwhile you need more work to get the power out of the box, that's a fact.

[PyroMessiah86]

More lies, Xbox has its own dedicated audio chip....research my friend

[ADECENTBOY777]

@PyroMessiah86 - No lies! The audio chip in PS5 is not the same as in xbox series x. YOU should research it my friend before ignoring the facts and calling facts lies!!! :)

[PyroMessiah86]

Ok, tell me what the audio chip in Xbox Series X does? They haven't even said yet! It's a dedicated audio chip that we know.

Also when did I say it's the same chip in PS5 that's in Series X? I didn't.
Learn to read actual words written then respond to me. Otherwise not interested 😂

[ADECENTBOY777]

PyroMessiah86

I would address the topic with the audio chip. Please check the Digital Foundry videos on the new box and the PS5. Hopefully you will know then what they mean with separate audio for PS5. I was thinking I talk here to guys with some hardware knowledge, apparently not.

[Donnie81]

Actually the gpu cpu and all the other advantages are gonna matter. The series x’s power advantage is gonna grow as game engines start to better utilize rdna 2. Both systems are really monsters and capable of really amazing console games but to downplay how much better the series x is isn’t doing gamers any favors. You are gonna see resolution differences you are gonna see way better ray tracing better textures and all the other graphical goodness out there on the series x. Not to mention up to double the FPS. I’ve told you guys and I’m gonna say it again the series x is a premium system the ps5 is a system that was designed to be affordable. It’s not in the same league and if you think it is you are I’ll informed

[Nitrox]

“ You are gonna see resolution differences you are gonna see way better ray tracing better textures and all the other graphical goodness out there on the series x. Not to mention up to double the FPS.“

I’m not sure how you figure it’s going to be that dramatic of a difference. Look at the ps pro and one x. Do we see that level of difference there? I don’t. Games like HZD, God of War, Forza, Gears 5, etc. are all comfortably within the same class of graphical detail and performance.

We’ll see the same next gen. Sure technical reviews and pixel counting will give a clear win to Xbox. But if you think that transfers directly to enjoyment and immersion you’re fooling yourself.

I can be just as immersed and blown away by a checkered 4K scene vs native 4K. How the games are made is way more important than the box it sits in. And we know very little about the games at this point.

[Donnie81]

Actually when devs do their job you see pretty big differences between the pro and x. Look at red dead 2 ! Big difference there and there are plenty of more games like that.
Look I understand you like PlayStation cool I enjoy mine to but I just don’t like people downplaying what a fantastic job they did with the series x. It’s gonna be noticeably better but it’s gonna cost more.
If the ps5 takes full advantage of rdna 2 both systems are gonna really wow people. Nobody is saying it’s bad I’m not at all. The series x has so many more advantages than the 1x did over the pro. The fanboys at digital foundry are gonna have a hard time making up reasons to ever give the ps5 a win but I’m sure they will resort to packaging or something

[IRetrouk]

Well how do you explain gtsport on the pro going toe to toe with forza 7 maxed on pc, and doing some things better?

https://www.eurogamer.net/a...

[waverider]

Dude, the ray tracing i would agree. Everything else nope. Double the FPS. Do you think the CPU of the series X runs at 5.5 or 6... What many dont understant is with RDNA2 you can do more with less. No resolution diferences. That is over. The Series X wont run major games at 8k or 10k. But it got more gpu powerfull, The question is: will 3rd party spend time to use or just use the ps5 version... I dont need to explain what will happend.

[S2Killinit]

It will come down to games as always. Im personally looking forward to PSVR2 and what they can do now and how the new Dual Sense controller and Tempest will add to the experience. Im ready.

[rlow1]

This coming from a developer who's games wont really push the boundaries of what these consoles can do.....In his own words.......“Both consoles seem very powerful and way beyond the capabilities needed for anything we will be making for the foreseeable future!”. My point, he's not the best source to quantify this considering they won't be making games that will push the console. So how can he really know?..... I can buy two sports cars and they'll both drive 50 miles an hour with no difference. But when i push them to their limits.......that's when you know what their really capable of. That said, I want both consoles to blow us away with amazing games.

[NewEnds0186]

You dont have to push a device to its limits to judge if it is easy to develop for.

[windblowsagain]

@vits regarding the difference in speed. between those SSD'S.

Because your thinking about current texture throughput and the highest level on pc. Put a game on High and ultra and there's barely any difference.

That will drastically change with the new consoles. Much heavy texture loads will be put in, with more objects to boot as well.

Once you load that up on both your SSD'S. The difference will be there.

[ElementX]

There is a balance between number of objects and quality of life for the player. Games won't contain 10x the number of objects even though the hardware may support it because it would be detrimental. Imagine Witcher or Elder Scrolls with even 50 NPCs on screen, it would be horrible to get around, you'd constantly bump into people. Then a dragon comes or a fight breaks out, you have all those people screaming and running around like mad, meanwhile you're trying to see what's going on. You swing your weapon and accidentally kill one of the dozens of people and then get in trouble.

[isarai]

Just show me dem gams dood

[Kumakai]

Omfg the PlayStation boys just can’t accept it, just like the OG Xbox one fans couldn’t accept it. The series x has all the same shit AND faster, wider memory bus w/ more bandwidth, more compute units and all the same fancy controllers and even some dedicated decompressors at the hardware level To make up for the slower nvme... AND directML and variable rate shading AND locked frequency on top of all that.

The ps5 might be easy to optimize for but even at 100% efficiency, the Xbox still has 30%+ more power. AND the Xbox has a better nvme expansion setup and a bigger SSD on top of it. And the Xbox’s nvme can ALSO be used as memory.

The ps5 will be awesome, but let’s not kid ourselves that it will outperform the sizable raw power gap of the series x. This will be like a more powerful version of ps4 pro/ one x.

[isarai]

You're trying too hard bro. Chill out.

Also your numbers and info are off.

[Father Murder X]

Not trying to flame the wars on here but the pure contradiction and hypocrisy is crazy. You guys are acting like Microsoft went to Micro Center and built the XSX with off the shelf computer parts or something. How come when they mention technologies that they have developed (Velocity Architecture, Project Acoustics,Spatial Audio, direct Storage) etc it is always BS or you guys become blind and deaf. They actually have a website explaining the technologies that is behind the XSX. It doesn't get any more transparent than that. Why can Sony optimize their system but Microsoft can't? Love your console of choice it's your right but don't be stupid about it. Microsoft is coming to handle their business this generation.

[Elda]

God willing...PS5 day one purchase for me.

[FullDiveDerail]

of course it wont make a difference for their games ..have you seen what they make..the Switch could play them well.

[Gwynbleidd]

40% more compute units in the GPU will matter for sure. We saw that with PS4 vs X1 and we will see that Xbox series X is the more capable machine.

[Zerobalance]

Ever heard of Dolby Atmos? Using it now. Catch up.

[NewEnds0186]

I'll own both so I dont care which is stronger. I hope both are easy to developers for so we get games in a timely fashion.

[Hozi]

One can argue that Xbox One X is technically more powerful than PS4, yet the Sony Exclusives speak volumes for themselves when compared to the competition's lineup of good games.

[DFresh]

At the end of the day it’s up to the exclusives being made to showcase the power of each console.
Looking forward to both systems day 1.

[StormSnooper]

Not the first dev to chime in on this and it’s almost unanimous. I’m more excited for the games and VR and that new controller than which console has a few more pixels or doesn’t. I want the games.

Having said that, this is not a knock on Xbox, I’m pretty sure whichever you choose you will have tons of fun.

[jacksonleonard]

Looks nice