PlayStation 5 SSD speeds hit 9GB/sec with custom 12-channel controller

With custom designed storage and lots of clever tricks, Sony hits an insane 9GB/sec max throughput on the PS5's next-gen SSD

[Jin_Sakai]

The PS5 SSD will be a game changer for console gaming. Can’t wait to see what first party studios will achieve.

[darthv72]

And from what I have read, both will be able to utilize their SSD speeds to act as additional pools of memory if needed. Both seem to have really fast systems on their hands. Like a cheetah vs lion. Cheetah may be faster but a lion is no slouch either.

Bottom line is neither is the prey.... that would be Nintendo.

[outsider1624]

"Bottom line is neither is the prey.... that would be Nintendo"

Lmao!!

[Eonjay]

When I heard that it can fill the entire 6 gigs in 2 seconds I was amazed. Load times be damned.

[silenthillstrangler]

Nintendo are a different breed and I am glad they are though time will make the switch look antiquated if they don't update with a bit more power it's true....but I'm sure they will.

[DarXyde]

Switch is the incumbent device and fulfills very different needs. It'll also be the cheapest with a great software profile, exclusives, and plenty of room for market expansion. There is also the matter of supply. Switch will be fine.

I really appreciate Sony's new direction. Focusing more on immersion capitalizes on its strength when being compared to Microsoft and Nintendo. Playstation has always struck a balance between the other two and this embodies that pretty well, I think: not the most powerful, but more immersive than Series X; not the most immersive, but more powerful than Switch.

If Sony steps up their game with their paid services, they'll have appeal in spades.

[NotoriousWhiz]

Deer is actually very fast too. Don't sleep on the prey or you'll go hungry lol.

[sampsonon]

Sorry man. MS loses on the SSD side. MS wins on GPU and CPU. Sony owns SSD.
But nice try.

[Unspoken]

Well since SSD tech has been out on PC for a while now, we've actually seen that it is logarithmic in loading times when moving up in speed. Raw throughput isn't going to be magical on its own.

You would think a Retina screen was added to the console with all this hype over SSD speeds.

[TheColbertinator]

Nintendo is fighting their own battle against mobile and family gaming competitors. I don't worry too much about them.

[morganfell]

The SSD tech on PCs currently is not on par with the PS5. It will be later on this year but not at the moment. It is absolutely correct that throughput is not magical on its own. This is why Sony built a custom flash controller to manage the workload.

[Babadook7]

"Sony's next-gen console has a custom PCIe 4.0 SSD that can push compressed data at up to 9GB/sec, or almost twice as fast as the Xbox Series X's max compressed data throughput of 4.8GB/sec."

I think the actual difference is much greater than 2x. Because... PS5 also has far superior custom compression/decompression hardware, so it does that for free. It's unlikely XS has this at all and for it to compress at 4.8 GB/s would take a huge amount of compute away from the Series X CPU. Something like 1/8th of the resources could go into compression alone.

[HICK]

You love using that analogy. I think this is the 3rd time you have posted it?

[darthv72]

@dook, both are using custom chips to help with compression and decompression with moving data back and forth in their SSD drives. Sony has an extra buffer chip to speed things up but the SX isnt slow by any stretch of the word. It's certainly faster than what the PC world is familiar with. Sony focused on data transfer speed, MS focused on everything else. Like i said above, it is speed vs strength. Both should be very proud of what they have constructed.

Nobody should feel disappointed by their choice nor should they try and downplay the importance of the one they don't choose. There is plenty of room for everyone to enjoy next gen gaming.

[Clonetrooper1139]

Not really. Nintendo is in a category all it's own. A faithful fanbase.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

this is totally false, the PS5 SSd solution is 5 times faster then XSX......

[frostypants]

I wanna support Nintendo but their peripheral and game pricing is just indefensible.

[umair_s51]

I am concerned how well the ps5 CUs scale with the higher clock speeds...RDNA 1 did not scale well at higher clock speeds. We'll have to see benchmarks from digital foundry

[Exvalos]

54 Nintendo fans got there feelings hurt lol brilliant man.

[brrdat]

it will be a game changer for pc gaming as well because crossplatform games won't be designed around hard drive bottlenecks, which will translate to better performance on pc.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

But not every PC has an SSD, that's the problem. And its really only Star Citizen that is coded a similar way to how a PS5 game will be coded.

PCI-e 4.0 is needed also, so there'll be a few upgrades incoming - probably a little more expensive than a PS5 too.

[rainslacker]

Once ssd drives become more common that will be the case. I think we will see more PC rigs starting to use them, so now we just need to wait for the devs to change their low end requirements. In the mean time, anything going to PC isnt likely to use all the benefits of ssd on their console versions of the game

[Doink]

rainslacker, dude PCs have been using SSD's for like 15 years don't think this is something innovative for PC, you need to inform yourself a little more before posting ridiculous statements

[Cupid_Viper_3]

I think is gamers are still (justifiably) unable to fully process the magnitude of this.

Put it this way, if some 10 years ago you told people that a stock electric, 4-door sedan, family sized car would easily outperform most supped up cars with a gazillion HP, you'd be laughed at. But nowadays, it's common knowledge that a $35,000 Tesla model 3 is quicker of that line than 95-99% of cars made today. Heck, even the ones built with the sole purpose of speed.

This is something that a stat sheet wouldn't properly convey if you're coming across it for the first time. A Tesla model S Vs a 700Hp Hellcat. Most would pick the Hellcat instinctively. But the Tesla wins.

Now does that mean the Hellcat is slow? Absolutely not. But it does mean that going forward, Tesla has changed the whole car game.

I think we're at that exact impasse with the PS5 and Series X. Both incredible consoles, but blazing fast. But it appears that one of them has shifted the whole industry and how games will be approached going forward.

[Ju]

@Doink Most PCs don't have SSDs. They become more and more standard; but even if, most are small capacity with a larger storage HDD. nvme's becoming more popular lately. "lately". Like this year these are finally picking up. Most of those, however are PCIe 3.0 which typically tops out ~3GB/s; and a big chunk doesn't even go that high. Only one's above require an X570 chipset which I take a bet here is a tiny minority and is the only one currently supporting PCIe 4.0 (with the new B550 boards hitting the markets now). So, no, PCs have some catching up to do to reach that. Even if they do, PC's will not have a HW decompressor (and probably never will). So, unless PCIe 5.0 comes around and physical nand chips which can deliver roughly 10GB/s it will be quite some time until PCs will catch up 9GB/s which every single launch PS5 will support.
Unfortunately, and the XBS will be the one besides the PC, those will "hold back" PS5 multiplatform games unless we'll get two different version for each platform; not sure how this will work, though. Since this is fundamentally a game design decision which basically would almost create different games for each platform.

[VariantAEC]

@Ju
It doesn't make a difference whether developers optimize games for PS5 specifically or not. The PS5's I/O is much faster and this will shine through unless developers intentionally force PS5 to load things slower.

I/O is not really something developers will need to worry about on PS5 at all.
As far as fast travel XSX will just be marginally slower depending on the game while rapid traversal will likely be limited again by CPU/GPU performance limitations (i.e. limited by what how many things these devices can actually render rather than how fast anythingcan be retrieved from storage and loaded into RAM).

[S2Killinit]

That seems to be what the devs are saying. Looks like the PS5 SSD was a bigger deal than we thought. Definitely going to be a good generation. Now the wait begins.

[S2Killinit]

Not developers from Sony.

[GTgamer]

I want a tech demoooooooooooo 😂😂😂 come on mark cerny you should of showed that bad boy in action.
No more forcing your game character to slowly walk, lift stupid doors, squeeze through tiny cracks, long elevator rides, weird corridors, am I missing anything guys? This is very exciting let's see what devs do without having to worry about crap like that, my only concern is that only sony first party teams will take advantage of this.

[S2Killinit]

Apparently the custom SSD allows computations that would normally be handled by RAM to be offloaded on the SSD because its speed approaches the RAM. This frees up the RAM to handle the game alone. This application will be used by any developer making a demanding game.

Its not just about loading times. It goes much further than that.

[GTgamer]

@S2Killinit yeah I've been watching allot of breakdowns on the ssd in ps5 and man the things they could happen are really exciting that's why I really would liked a tech demo or something we probably won't get until months down the line.

[Unspoken]

Computations handled by ram? Ok...it's a storage medium. Anywho, as it reaches half the base DDR4 2133 single channel throughput, latency is what will set it apart from both DDR memory and traditional SSD. New assets can be loaded in faster thus eliminating loading times? Ok. Great.

Going to give the benefit of the doubt that there are a few here who actually nderstand this technology.

[FPS_D3TH]

Just cuz some of those moments are used to load new areas doesn’t mean gaming is going to change story pacing all of a sudden. I do see your point when it’s used too often or seems out of place

[GamerRN]

The title and article state false information. The speed is 5gb, and when you uncompress the data it could be 9gb if the best compression is used and that data is able to be compressed at that level

[GamerRN]

But the drive can only do 5

[NeoGamer232]

SSD is a game changer on both consoles and not for the better. I am used to having all my games installed on external hard drives connected to the device. Now I have to have mygames installed on the fast SSD for them to run and there is not a lot of space on the fast SSD.

Personally, give me loading times and tons of space OVER no load times and always having to manage my space.

[mandingo]

I’ll take raw power over having to wait an extra 5 seconds for a game to load

[leejohnson222]

20 xbots disagree

[anubusgold]

You can buy a 5000 speed ssd for pc now on newegg for 200 dollars. A fast ssd is only good for load times thats it. When it comes to graphics more cu cores means better graphics. Amd cant touch Nvidia without over 30 cu cores thats just a fact.

[porkChop]

This is when the files are compressed. So during installations when the files are loaded from the disc before being decompressed.

[GamerRN]

Basically this article is false. It only hurts 5.5gb, however with compression, that same 5.5 can decompress to 9

[FITSniper]

But there's no performance penalty from the decompression since it has dedicated hardware (for both systems). So EFFECTIVELY and IN PRACTICE, you're getting 9GB of data a second.

[GamerRN]

It's still wrong...

[DEEBO]

You a registered nurse??
Be safe out there and thanks for your service.

[GamerRN]

@DEEBO

Yes I'm an RN in the ER of a major hospital in the area. Thank you. It's actually getting quite crazy out there. And now I have had a cough for a few days so I get to worry about that...

[AmUnRa]

You do have watch the Mark Ceeny video again, he has more knowlegde of hardware than you ever will have....you do not have clue about hardware.

[rdgneoz3]

Compressed and raw, the I/O throughput for the PS5 is double (or more than) that of XBX.

5.5 raw and 8 to 9 compressed GB/s, vs 2.4 raw and 4.8 compressed GB/s

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS...

[sampsonon]

it's funny that people are trying to let MS ride the SSD tail of Sony. MS has the CPU and GPU advantage, so they think they can just throw SX's SSD in the mix as if it's anywhere close to the PS5.
it's not even in the same ball park.

[Neonridr]

@sampsonon - let's not pretend like what MS is bringing to the table is slow. I have a standard NVMe M.2 drive and it doesn't reach the speeds that MS is touting, and my OS can boot up cold to the login screen in about 5-7 seconds.

I love how everyone is acting like what MS has inside their Series X is now somehow slow when it is basically the fastest commercially available NVMe drive outside of what Sony created.

So the GPU and CPU differences don't matter at all, but it's all about a game loading a few seconds quicker? Come on... Both systems have their advantages, now it's up to the devs to be able to utilize them.

[FITSniper]

@Neonridr - Absolutely. Anyone who says one or the other isn't worth it's salt is just a dumb fanboy. Either one is capable of great gaming. Pick your platform and play. Measuring epeens is just ridiculous.

[S2Killinit]

@Neonrdr
Whats being lost on some people who keep saying “well its not like MS’s SSD is bad” is that no one is saying that. We are stating the fact that the PS5’s SSD is 2X the speed of xbox SSD. That is big.

Whats interesting is that somehow the 2 tfps difference is considered significant enough to mention, but the twice the speed of PS5’s SSD receives the “well its not like xbox’s SSD is bad”.

[Zeref]

Actually it's "over" 6Gb/s for Xbox.
Its not final yet.

"the Velocity Architecture and the SSD itself is just one part of the system.

"Our second component is a high-speed hardware decompression block that can deliver over 6GB/s," reveals Andrew Goossen."

https://www.eurogamer.net/a...

[mkis007]

Current gen read speeds are closer to series x speeds than series x is to ps5 speeds.

Perspective. Double the revolution.

[GamerRN]

I love that now it's all about SSD speeds instead of game performance. What good does high speed data transfer matter if your CPU and GPU can't keep up...

[Realms]

MS has the raw power but are they as efficient? I guess we will find out when we see games running.

[uth11]

It may mean there is no need to decompress the files when installed todisk

[CaptainHenry916]

The loading time on games should just be under 3 seconds

[Jin_Sakai]

Mark Cerny stated they wanted games to boot in little as 1 second on PS5. That’s insane.

In comparison It takes 20 seconds to load 1gb data on the PS4 HDD whereas it takes 0.27 seconds to load 2gb on PS5 with the custom SSD.

[Monkeysmoke]

Maybe with this kind of speed PS5 version of games will likely have:

More draw distance,
More densed environments ,
Higher quality texture assets,
No background texture pop-up,
Less use of fog to hide textures.

[Whitey2k]

Well this is it @Monkeysmoke despite the power differences at 10.2tflops could act as a 12tflop as you said yourself all can be done on what u said. ps5 SSD is that fast all that can be achieved even without storing assets to its ram which ps5 can pretty access all of its ram.

Ps5 > xsx on ram dispite the speed differences and since they have a separate DDR4 ram that is pretty much for the OS and the ssd has it's own module of ram

[Whitey2k]

Maybe 8k is not possible but 4k with 8k assets or textures could be possible. Very smart move by sony come to think of it

[FITSniper]

@Monkeysmoke,

You're still limited by what the GPU can draw and fit in memory for the scene. Draw distances will likely be higher, but not unlimited. Texture pop-in should be minimal if not eliminated though.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

So 0.54 seconds on the XSX.

I mean that's still extremely fast.

[morganfell]

@Monkey,

One of the things that has been remarked upon so far is that players will be able to move through ultra high resolution environments, detail rich, at movement speeds far beyond what we can achieve today. And because of the SSD. Not the GPU, the SSD.

So yes.

[chiefJohn117]

@Monkey you're in for a rude awakening lol. It's obvious you don't understand how graphics work

[Eidolon]

At absolutely terribly unoptimized maxium. This would be equivalent to load times being 5 minutes on PS4... You're literally just saying it takes 3 seconds for PS5 to load 16gb from SSD into RAM. That's not how load times work.

[sampsonon]

00:00.23 sec is how fast it runs. not 3 sec. lol

[Monkeysmoke]

@morganfell
Exactly! What you said was demonstrated last year in that Spider-Man (PS5 demo) behind closed doors.
Spider-Man was shown swing through the city at maximum speed almost like a jet without any loss of details in the world. Cerny said that feature was only possible with an SSD this fast.

[chiefJohn117]

XSX was loading games up in 4 seconds so PS5 will probably be loading them in just 2. Plus you got suspende and resume where once you boot the game up again it'll be right were you left off at with no loading at all on XSX. I assume PS5 will have this feature too

[GaboonViper]

No doubt this is PS5s big weapon.

[SierraGuy]

Xbox never saw it coming.

[Sayai jin]

PS5 will be a beast, but people this is just sad.

[Doink]

yeah lol these kids think that a faster SSD makes the PS5 more powerful, actually is the only think PS5 have faster so Sony is marketing it like the best advantage game changer

[chiefJohn117]

It really is sad....and funny lol. It's like they're clinging on to their last life line of hope that don't exist but they keep telling themselves otherwise.

[Realms]

LOL. To people that think Sony's SSD won't have a huge impact, it's not about faster loading times. It's about accessing data almost instantaneously Sony build a less powerful more efficient console tailoring to what developers asked for MS built a console with raw power in mind. MS solution was to brute force everything Sony's was to be more flexible, when people see games running on the PS5 they will forget all this talk about MS having better specs specially when they see Sony's first party games. I will come back and laugh at all you fools for all the dumb nonsense you are saying.

[ElementX]

It'll be interesting to see how it performs in real life situations. I honestly don't know, do games actually use anywhere near 5GB of data in a single location? Open world games load as you move, so unless you're traveling at mach speeds do you really need that much IO? For instance, fast travel to a city... does the city that surrounds you contain that much data? By the time you move toward a street, those seconds that pass is where the game is loading data, correct? So unless you teleport instantly everywhere you travel, do you need to transfer that much data every second?

[elazz]

Or you you can load even bigger worlds. That's exactly the example sony provided. Less corridor style gameplay or background loading and more real time loading.

Imagine this. You load a level. All those assets go to RAM ready to be accessed when needed. However compared to xbox one and with right developers you potentially need half those assets to be prepared due to the SSD speed meaning there is room for other things that require ram.

[ElementX]

Well MS has this tech, however we'll have to wait and see how it works.

From a link I posted in another article:
"Sampler Feedback Streaming (SFS) – A component of the Xbox Velocity Architecture, SFS is a feature of the Xbox Series X hardware that allows games to load into memory, with fine granularity, only the portions of textures that the GPU needs for a scene, as it needs it. This enables far better memory utilization for textures, which is important given that every 4K texture consumes 8MB of memory. Because it avoids the wastage of loading into memory the portions of textures that are never needed, it is an effective 2x or 3x (or higher) multiplier on both amount of physical memory and SSD performance."

https://news.xbox.com/en-us...
It remains to see what the actual real benefits are, but it's interesting. If you're not reading unnecessary data then maybe you don't need 5GB+/s IO. *shrug*

[4U2NV]

ElementX

The reason your confused and keep asking the same question in the same articles is because you are basing all your theories on hardware from this current gen.
Are you a developer? Doubt it as youd know and understand, whereas developers that DO understand game design know that this is going to change the way games are developed with multiple options of doing so.

Just relax and wait until the consoles are released and then you will have your answers because seeing you constantly asking this nonsense question in every article is annoying lol.

[ElementX]

I asked the same question about how much data is needed because 75% of these articles get failed. My question in this article was over 24 hours ago and it just got approved.

BTW I'm asking questions, not bashing like some of the people on here. I honestly want to know some answers and I can't find them online. Will games need PS5 IO speed? I've said we'll have to wait and see. I'm not trying to pick sides, but everybody talks about how awesome things are going to be and nobody is asking if games will actually put these features to good use. 9GB/S max seems overkill, that's all. 3rd party will have to work on PC and Series X. You don't see people wondering what's going to happen, they just make assumptions that PS5 will be fast because IO speed. If the amount of data transferred doesn't require more than 2-3GB/S IO then PS5 drive isn't anything to brag about. Furthermore with compression on Series X the IO speed can reach higher than 2.5GB or whatever. Does that put PC speeds on the lower end of the spectrum?

[RazzerRedux]

"do games actually use anywhere near 5GB of data in a single location"

No, because currently they just cannot. Tech like will allow them to though. The devs seem very excited about this so it will interesting to see how they take advantage of it.

[Monkeysmoke]

On the PS5, texture streaming over a large scale of environment will be so fast that there will be almost "no texture pop" even on distant objects as you approach them.

This will be evident on PS5 versions of large and dense open world & racing games.

[jaymacx]

Maybe we can finally get large crowds in Openworld games without a performance dip. Batman, Assassins Creed, GTA, The Witcher , and others would really benefit with this. Also we could get accessible buildings instead of just looking at them.

[sampsonon]

@shaggy2303 you're wrong. Cerny said that assets will appear as you turn in an open world setting. so the PS5's SDD will load these assets and remove assts as you move through the world. this mean more assets can be used.

that means more dense crowds/assets in game.

man sony was smart about this one.

[ElementX]

@sampsonon
"Cerny said that assets will appear as you turn in an open world setting."

That's how every game has always worked. Graphics aren't just floating around waiting for you to look at them. They aren't processed any longer than necessary as far as I know. From talking with the developer of Fortresscraft and people who do modding in that community, a GPU only renders images that are on screen. Objects behind other objects or whatever is off screen isn't using any GPU processing.

If you are playing a FPS and you look at the ground, your FPS goes up because the GPU is only rendering what is on screen, not the objects around you that you can't see. It's like the only part of the world that actually "exists" is what is on screen.

"SDD will load these assets and remove assts as you move through the world. this mean more assets can be used."
Again, games have always done this, there's nothing special about it.

[chiefJohn117]

That's CPU not HDD lol. Remember when. Everyone was so upset about the ryzen cpu in current gen consoles? Wtf happened? Suddenly y'all don't gaf about CPU and stuck on the hard drive 😆 why is this? I doubt we'll see pop in on either versions. Unlesss ofc you got XSX running 4k 120fps ultra textures. Then PS5 4k 60 high textures version would probably have no pop ins.

[S2Killinit]

Apparently the custom SSD approaches RAM speeds, allowing devs to offload the work that would normally be placed on the RAM unto the SSD and freeing up the RAM horsepower to focus on other things.

[S2Killinit]

thats a dev talking. Apparently it is 2X the speed of xbox’s SSD.

[Babadook7]

“ do games actually use anywhere near 5GB of data in a single location?”

Yes. Rage used 20+ GB in one large location. Called mega texturing.

[WelkinCole]

Basically they can load and off load a boat load of data/assets as you play. To Sony this is more important for creating more immersive/realistic worlds than what devs has been able to before. The bottleneck for game makers according to Cerny and Sony has been the Storage (HD) rather than GPU/CPU/RAM.

[PitbullMonster]

I have hopes that console gaming will be plug and play again.

[nowitzki2004]

Sadly not yet. This wont improve download speeds.

[nirwanda]

Actually it may do as less information needs to be repeated as it can be accessed quickly when paged correctly and lots of talk of splitting up games into online and campaign etc
But this will likely be offset by bigger texture packs

[Hedstrom]

Youre gonna be able to have som crazy detailed textures.

[MecheSlays]

By far but thats not because of the speed. Thats because of the texture itself and having enough memory for that texture to sit it. The speed will show improvements in LOD and how fast that LOD will reach its full detail. and now that instantly.

[dumahim]

It also seems like it will vastly reduce the need to pre-load data in to RAM. It can be kept on the SSD until closer when it's actually needed which frees up RAM for other stuff.

[MecheSlays]

@dumahim yup

[OpenGL]

Reports are Sony will also be utilizing this fast SSD to reduce the memory footprint of the PS5 operating system, giving developers access to something like 15GB of the 16GB of system memory. Definitely makes the decision to only double system RAM less of an issue since the amount of RAM a game gets access to would be 3x that of the PS4.

[Whitey2k]

Maybe all of its ram. SSD has it's own pool of SPU of memory and u have 4gig of DDR4 which could cope with the speed of the functions of the OS. But anyways your not wrong there.

I would love to see the comparisons on games between xsx and ps5. Fast ram on xsx vs slower ram but extra 4gig of ram to play with.

[silenthillstrangler]

I can only imagine what naughty Dog will do with this.

[moriarty1889]

PS5 is blazingly fast! cant wait!

[buffig]

Hardly anybody is talking about that gpu clock speed either. It's insane

[Sniperwithacause]

For me, going from the OG PS4 to the PS5 is going to be great. BC is something I'd like, but not a killer blow. So glad that the PS5 is going to be a beast compared to it predecessor!

[Imortus_san]

When the console release and this 9GB are nothing but bandwith just like Sata 3 6Gb bandwith, it will be a crazy LAMO.

[gamer7804]

will be interesting to see how these new fast drives on ps5 and xsx create new experiences. Imagine it will reduce pop in and create less long elevators and stairs or mud in open world games. Cool, but not really game changing.

[pornflakes]

They should build 3 of these ssds into the box and leave out the gpu and cpu out i am Sure naughty dog (god devs) would know what to do

PS5 ssd is the new cell which will take graphics and speed into a new lvl!

PS fanboys... Excuses awaits!

[TeamIcoFan]

As I've said, this is the PS5's "SECRET SAUCE!" BS.

[Wintersun616]

But Sony isn't saying that this magically makes their console 4x more powerful...

[CaptainOmega]

^This

[AmUnRa]

You dont have a clue about hardware thats clear as water...

[CaptainOmega]

Please stop flame baiting

[Father Murder X]

Man that is the funniest comment I have read all week. You get my upvote!!!!!!

[Wotbot]

No buying it, Sony is focusing on the one peace that is better and hopes everyone falls for it.

I haven’t heard them talk about their CPU or GPU much, I wonder why?

[CaptainOmega]

That's fast!

[Minute Man 721]

Up coming gen gonna be like "360 era" for me. X for multiplats n exclusives, PS5 for exclusives

[jznrpg]

You haven’t even seen a game yet , it’s ignorant to base your decision off of spec release . Because most people have no idea how real world performance is going to be. One you have 10.28 vs 12 whatever . That’s not much difference in the first place . It’s not like PS4 vs XB1 , the XB1 had a huge bottleneck with esram and that’s what made Xb1 inferior not the flop difference .Ultimately they are both good machines but Sony went a different direction with speed in I/O . I bet multilplats will be close to identical. If they choose to use Sony’s speed and MS 15% power I’d bet on the speed because that’s the bigger difference . I know people will see the numbers as they want to so let’s see a year into the generation where things are at .

[i3eyond the Circle]

“That starts with the "Xbox Velocity Architecture," which Microsoft promises will allow "100GB of game assets to be instantly accessible by the developer" as a sort of "extended memory."

Unless you’re saying the Ps5 is allowing 215GB to be instantly accessible that whole 115% faster logic is thrown out the window.

In this area they will perform very much the same.

[gravedigger]

Mark Cerny described the exact same thing in his talk. MS is doing a much better job at marketing these features with buzz words/names. PS5's IO pipeline does everything the "velocity architecture" does at 5.5GB/s + Kraken Decompression.

[waverider]

Some still dont understand that SSD doenst affect only being quicker on loading... is much more the that and more will explain why is such a big deal even on creation of the game. Cerny talk also about that, but people just want to talk teraflopss and 18% more peak power.... Others are saying this already.

[CaptainOmega]

yeah, seems bizzare that we have all of these armchair developers in here.... *eyeroll*

[chiefJohn117]

Load time times will be a thing of the past. When MS showed games that took 40 seconds to load on XO load up in 4 seconds. It was at that moment I knew these ssds were legit. Plus the suspend resume feature literally removes any and all seconds of loading period load time is officially dead. R I.P you won't be missed lol

[Minute Man 721]

Old school gamers already knows what no load times feel like. Welcome back

[NewEnds0186]

These ssd's will allow for so much more detailed worlds with better draw distance, no pop in textures and it's all gonna be instant.

[pornflakes]

For more detailed worlds you need gpu power. For more draw distance without fps drops cpu power.

Does Last of us 2 will have pop ups? No...
God of war? No...

They are running on a slow cheap HDD .

I dont know which sony drugs u take

[CaptainOmega]

How are you knowing Last of Us 2 won’t have any pop-in?

[MecheSlays]

We also cant forget that SX has 10GB of GDDR6 that is 112GB/s at 56GB/s faster than the PS5's 448GB/s

[Utakata]

lol

[Ulf]

Hoo-ee, that SSD. When did loading fast become so fun that we actually care about the difference between 2 secs and 4?

[WGAF]

So what happen after loading all the assets, are you able to maintain the performance with all of those assets on screen or how SSD will be able to help with it? So would this make ps5 double the visual capacity and framerate/performance of SX?

Next question have to do with people keep complaining that we aren't doing anything new except improving visuals (which is true with things like 4k/8k or raytraycing, etc...), not AI or Physics. Will this SsD help make better AI and Physics? Which component are needed for those other functions?

[gravedigger]

So, reading here, Xbox fans says that SSD in XSX is better than in PS5?

[Ulf]

It is, because it loads data to a machine that plays games better. ;)

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Mark Cerny is a smart, smart guy..devs, and Digital Foundry all seem more impressed wiht the Focus on limiting bottlenecks, and far bettern SSD than raw flops.

[Xavi4K]

it may save me 5 seconds but it won't deliver the best possible gaming experience in terms of graphics

[sleewok]

For the love of...Get your abbreviations correct! This is laughable. For all you saying 9gb... that means 9 gigaBIT. SO... 9gb = 1.125 GB. The lowercase "b" vs capital "B" in "GB" is significant and completely changes the value. This is basic computer storage...

[_LarZen_]

The PS5 SSD is looking like it will be the next Cell processor....

[IRetrouk]

No that would be the tempest engine

[tombfan]

There's nothing like it on the market tbh... the top speed from an M.2 is just Sabrent Rocket Gen4 (500GB) read 5000 / write 2500