This Pokemon Sword and Shield DLC Will Make You Hate Game Freak Even More

Pokemon Sword and Shield already attracted rage from longtime fans, and the new DLC will only make things worse.

[Neonridr]

It's hilarious that some people honestly only think that it's cut pokemon being offered in the DLC. Ignore the new pokemon, new regions, new content.. it's literally only adding in old pokemon

SMH

[Majin-vegeta]

The problem is they ducking lied again.
1st time:regarding the "High quality animations"which was crap and now with "nO mOrE pOkEMoN will be added.lo and behold theyre giving more pokemon.

[Neonridr]

well it's not just old pokemon they are adding in. They are adding in new ones too. I agree that not having a full dex was a blow to begin with, but there's still plenty of good content here.

[-Foxtrot]

@Neonridr

It's seriously not the point

One Minute

"We couldn't do it because of time / resources / limitations..." whatever

4-5 Months Later

"SURPRISE...200 ARE ADDED...and here's more content you need to pay for even though the base game was so lacking"

They lied. Simple as that.

[originaljohn]

Do you have an actual quote of someone in GF saying "no more Pokémon will be added"? I remember them saying older Pokémon will appear in newer games but can't remember them ruling out adding Pokémon at a later date.
Personally I prefer this much more, we're getting an expansion sooner than a 3rd game iteration

[King_Noctis]

Where did they specifically said that no more Pokemon will be added? All I saw was they said that they “currently have no plan to add more”. Notice the word “currently“? And how is giving more content a bad thing now?

“ "We couldn't do it because of time / resources / limitations..." whatever
4-5 Months Later
"SURPRISE...200 ARE ADDED...and here's more content you need to pay for even though the base game was so lacking"

They said they couldn’t do it because of time limit, but then release 4-5 month laters. Do you see the contradiction in your post?

[lcslick]

I remember when making the 3ds region free was impossible, despite the normal ds being region free. Then someone found a glitch using a random 3ds game that made the 3ds region free, showing how nintendo blatantly lied about it........ then they actually patched the glitch to make it region locked again. I never trust what nintendo or their devs say after that and it made me only buy preownd stuff from them if anything.

[--Onilink--]

So they decided to backtrack on a decision that had caused controversy and now that is a bad thing? It seems pretty clear, even by their mention of everyone able to import the new pokemon for free, that it was a reaction to the negative feedback.

@Foxtrot

Its not 4-5 months, the expansion comes out on June, which is 8 months after release to add 100+ pokemon and the 2nd expansion comes out on Fall, which means it will probably be about a year since release for the other 100+ pokemon (and thats not even mentioning that obviously part of the work for a dlc will always start before the base product is finished).

So yeah, those seem like pretty normal timelines to me

[badz149]

@--Onilink--

"So they decided to backtrack on a decision that had caused controversy and now that is a bad thing?"

and charge $30 for it! that's not backtracking, that's cutting contents to sell for later!

[--Onilink--]

@badz

Except they are not charging for it.

Every one of the pokemon added can be traded in to the base game, either by someone else that has it, or if you own them from a previous game (which is basically as it has been for pretty much every single pokemon game in the past)

[Sono421]

Neon you need to stop trying so hard to defend this, literally any way you slice it, doesn't look good.

It is an indisputable fact that all old Pokemon are using their old models and animations from the 3DS games, so now let's look at the reasons GF gave for excluding old pokemon
1. Re-doing all the models (in fact a proven lie)
2. Making high quality animations (also proven lie)
3. Balancing (Not a single rational person believed this anyway but now that they are bringing most back including all legendaries, pretty much a proven lie)

So now that they are selling them to us with this DLC what would any logical person assume? Well considering we know they are all using their 3DS models and animations, the only real answer is that they were intentionally held back to be sold as DLC later.

And no, they aren't free, not even a little bit, just because you are waiting for someone else to pay the bill doesn't make them free, just because someone who paid for them trades them to you, is the farthest thing from free.

I will admit though, there is A LOT of content in this DLC, no doubt about that at all, 2 DLC packs, both with 2 new areas, complete with their own wild areas, both get new stories, both get new characters, both get new cosmetics, both get new legendaries.

I'm being genuinely serious, that's a lot of content... I would argue that is over half of what the original game offered, if not for getting not many new Pokemon, only legendaries, that is basically as much content as the original game gave us, seriously think about it, if they added 100 new pokemon in this DLC you could basically call it a sequel, that's just how much content is put in this compared to Sw&Sh.

So now the question is... what have they been doing?! Can they actually create this much content in less than a year?! I mean if so.. you would think Sw&Sh's development time couldn't have been longer than a year and a half... except we know it was much longer than that... okay so how is it they can create really close to the amount of content in Sw&Sh in less than a year? Especially when Sw&Sh had such a small amount of content compared to previous games. MUCH longer development time, but almost the same amount of content as the DLC? Something isn't adding up here... Well considering we know for 100% certain they held back Pokemon just to sell them later as DLC, whats to stop them from holding back other content to sell as DLC?

Seems WAY more likely than them making all of this in less than a year.

[Neonridr]

you make some very good points. I agree that it raises some questions, but clearly GF is trying to make good here by putting so much into these packs. I'm not saying that putting cut pokemon back in the game via paid DLC is the best way to go about it, but there is enough there in these packs that they warrant purchase on their own merits.

[Sono421]

@Neon

I disagree, it doesn't raise questions, it creates answers.
Why did Sw&Sh have so much less content than previous games? How did they create so much DLC content in such a very short amount of time?

Both questions put together only have one answer... content excluded to be sold as DLC, and the proven fact that they did this with the Pokemon only goes to show that they are capable of doing it, so it isn't a stretch at all.

Them selling us product we used to be able to get for $40 for an extra $30 on top of our $60 is does not warrant any purchase from me.

I never thought I would actually say this, but I almost would have preferred Ultra Sw&Sh, at least then I could just wait to buy the version that would have had all of this extra content for $60, instead of being forced to pay $90.

[--Onilink--]

Im sorry, but those pokemon are free. There hasnt been a single pokemon game where all of them could be caught in the wild. They always required trading from older games, which was the thing people were complaining about, that they couldnt bring their old pokemon with them.

Which is what GF has now addressed with those free updates in case you dont want to pay for the dlc.

[originaljohn]

I suppose you have access to GF resources dedicated to the project. Unless your a project manager on this game there is no way you can make the assumptions you've posted.
Pokémon games launch inline with a new TV show which is a major factor as to why sword and shield launch with so little content another reason was because half the team where working on let's go Eevee & Pikachu. They literally say in the direct they're in the middle of creating the new content, to claim it's been 'held back' would imply its already finished. These expansion packs are made because of the dexit backlash. Also 2020 could be the first year in a very long time a mainline game or remaster isn't release which would actually cost GF less than expanding on the current game.
I want this to be the standard for Pokémon moving forward, we could potentially get older regions as dlc with all the benefits only found in those games. It's a much better way to keep players engaged than releasing a new full price game every year.

[NotoriousWhiz]

Pokémon is literally released every single year. This year it would appear they skipped the 3rd version in favor of DLC. No, developing Pokémon does not take that long, because if it did, they wouldn't release a new Pokémon game every single year.

[Majin-vegeta]

I will say being able to catch the pokemon without the need to buy the dlc is a does soften the lie.But you still need someone that has to have them

[-Foxtrot]

And if you don't then you most likely need to buy the DLC to have these missing Pokemon pop up in your game.

[Batnut00]

Which is still better than having to buy another version of the same game to get that extra stuff.

[-Foxtrot]

It’s still £30 man that’s not good no matter how you spin it

Some people hold off and would rather wait for the third game. Pay only once for the entire improved version

[Batnut00]

Ah yes 30 pounds which again would be cheaper than buying up another new game, and sure some people do wait but most people don’t and they shouldn’t have to pay more to get the full experience and now no one has to. It’s all their without having to shell out more.

[Adnanilyas21]

Looking forward to the DLC

[averagejoe26]

haha

Nintendo knows their fanboys will buy anything.

It's hilarious.

[King_Noctis]

Its a good thing then that Pokemon is not their only game right?

[badz149]

it is for GameFreak

[King_Noctis]

“ it is for GameFreak”

I could have sworn that Little Town Hero had just came out at the tail end of last year.

Maybe I’m wrong.

[Antnee534]

I very much like this, because now for only 30 I get more from these games and it's not just a 60 dollar third version that adds very minor additions. These were the best pokemon games to date, you can have your opinion and I won't fight that but you cant change my mind that these are the best pokemon games yet. Also the two new maps they are adding are like the wild area. I dont hate anything they did, though I wish none of the legends were coming back. I think if they ever were to come back they should have been dripped out through the raids.

[Bleucrunch]

I KNEW this was going to happen, definitely won't purchase this game at all now. I will spend my money else where...You Nintendo folks are a rather interesting bunch...Nintendo knows how to get you hook, line and sinker...its too easy for them at this point.

[OneLove]

Ugh I'm such a big fan that I love this shit and yet I feel cheated a little lol. Screw you nintendo.....I'm still buying it though.

[Elronza]

Proves why these games were released half assed and lacking most of the pokedex. Gamefreak gon nickel and dime you. They turned a $40 game into a $90 game, and the blind fans will pay it smfh! Wow you blind fans just love that straight dick and no bootylube Gamefreak keeps giving you!

[Tross]

Up here in Canada the price for one of the games plus its DLC costs almost $120 in our currency. WTF?

[Xaevi]

I don't think there's any point in arguing against what they're doing. They've learnt absolutely nothing from the backlash, and lied again. For those saying this is GF and not Nintendo, Nintendo has just as much of a say in decisions made for the series and they're are just as greedy for allowing the way this franchise is being handled. You can't sit around voicing your displeasure in online forums, but GF and Nintendo is never gonna listen. Just stop buying Pokemon, I am, end I'm moving to Digimon which I've neglected for too long

[Cmoney007]

So wait for the complete version that includes the DLC? Lol

[badz149]

not even complete at the moment with just 200 added with this DLC right here. it's not totally unthinkable at this point that they will release another DLC with another 200 after this for another $30.

GameFreak and Nintendo are devilishly genius because they know theur fanbase are suckers and will be defending them no matter how scummy their practice is

[RedDevils]

Game Freak is like EA with sport games. I hate them with a passion than any other developer out there.