Google Stadia is launching with a whole host of problems, from technical issues to the concept of the entire model.
Sounds about how I figured.
A disaster? Gee, nobody saw that coming.
Most of us knew internet and tech isn’t ready yet . And Google launches many things only to drop them a couple years later . I am sure MS and Sony will have better options before Google figures it out and they both have Libraries . Obviously PS has the largest but MS shits all over Google and that’s not good at all. I don’t have much faith in Nintendo with cloud tech as they can’t even get a half way decent online service going in 2019 but if they could do that and cloud they crap all over Google too. Google jumps the gun way too much and throws shit at a wall and hopes something sticks . But they have closed so many services they should have learned that they need to pick less areas and take their time and get some of them right. They can afford to fail a lot because of their cloud and info gathering devilry but damn , get something else right mofos
Google is to knew to this and doesn't have the backlog. The internet is ready. Xcloud has been getting pretry good reviews so far for it. When it launches next year it will have 4500 games
Oooouya and Onlive said......we"ll be seeing you at the dumpster soon.
This will be gone none existing soon of not when new xbox ps5 comes
The new Ouya. Good.
Something tells me it wont disappear that easily. Xcloud is coming and it will surely be more enticing to users; PS now will be revamped and offer a similar service to Xcloud if not better (content wise, at least). Google will struggle but will copy the other two in an effort to keep the shop open; after that all bets are off.
I kinda agree. If big developers start jumping on the streamtrain, it will probably be the future of gaming, wether we like it or not, and honestly, I don’t like it.
How do you mean better content wise? I use Xcloud to stream from my console so I have access to every game I own and every game on gamepass. Doesn't get much better than that. I hope PS does get equivalent though, since I got Xcloud I've hardly used the TV.
@clown_Symdrome Content as in variety and quality of games you can stream both 3rd party and exclusives.
Ps now will not be better than xcloud. Its partnered with MS to use its structure. It will be as par when revamped
Physical copies FTW!
LMAO!! A flop on arrival.
It's so absolutely beautiful to see!!!!
Massive resolution and framerate drops, sporadic lag affecting gameplay.. no thank you. My suspicions confirmed
You don't need suspicions when all you had to do was look at all of the complaints of streamed gaming that has been going on for the past 5 years
Or common sense. Remote gaming = lag. Why there are always so many people in consistent denial?
This is very early days. Stop jumping to conclusions before you have any hard data to go on. Even if Stadia did flop and is a technical disaster, that does not mean the future of gaming isn't streaming because Sony and Microsoft are also heavily investing in streaming. Google are not a startup so its a marathon and not a sprint to them. And btw I am a software engineer working on game streaming tech so I know a bit more than you average air heads.
Ahhh I see, so that's why you're so arrogantly and foolishly championing the rest of us to bend over and accept the digital future monopoly. Really goes to show, you of all people should know game streaming is absolutely not a comparative alternative, but you're invested in it's success so you'll continue to keep spouting nonsense completely divorced from reality.
More than the average air head, or more than all of us, who are average air heads? Just want to make sure I understand....
A software engineer working on game streaming tech... Thank you for being upfront about that conflict of interest. Allow me to ask you a question as someone with a little common sense: knowing how much hype Google has put behind this service, do you think that maybe—just maybe—they would be better served by making sure they had a solid, fully featured debut by delaying it to make sure the service launches in a presentable and admirable condition? I assure you, this does not help them. Stadia launched with negative perception. What's more, it is from Google which is a huge company. They may have single handedly killed all interest in this form of content delivery.
Lol says the airhead who incessantly cried about Stadia in many articles and now when there are many negative reviews you decide to change direction. Air heads don't seem to have a larger memory span than a toddler
Back when I first started in the industry, I was making Kinect API's. MS was going to go hard on Kinect 2, and out of the gate, the company I worked for thought that they'd get ahead of the curve by making tools to make good use of the product. That went to waste in the end. Obviously, Kinect was not going to have anywhere near the sustainability of streaming, but the point is, what may appear to be the golden child of the future, may not end up doing anything in the end. If the market struggles for years and continuously fails to meet expectations, then it will be abandoned. With game streaming, I think it's way too soon to assume it will fail from any given service provider, but Google isn't exactly hitting the ground running, and it's easy enough to speculate on where they'll end up if they don't get their sh*t together. Google seems aimless. Sony seems to have a direction, although not specifically defined. MS I think has a clear vision for where they want to go with it, but haven't made us completely aware of all the details yet. All of that though doesn't mean that it's the future. It could stick around forever, and forever remain an option. But, the contention comes from people that say, "It's the future". It's a singular assertion which excludes everything else, and that goes against common sense, and I can't even count how many times I've heard about what the future is in my 40 some years of gaming. That said, I will say that while i was making Kinect API's, never once did I ever claim it was the future. I was more reserved than that. One user on here in particular, whose name I can't remember, used to have a lot of discussions with me on the topic. He'd swear up and down about how it was going to be the biggest thing, and take over gaming, and how MS was going to usher in some magical new way to play games....and this was in the last couple years of the 360's life. I said Kinect worked fine when it's limitations and strengths were considered properly, and it worked when you did things right. Point it, even if you're working on streaming tech, and understand what is possible, a little pragmatism about it's place in the market both now and in the future is not really a bad thing.
So you're helping contribute to the downfall of gaming. Gotcha.
@CaptainObvious878 Digital will probably make up a large chunk of the future, just accept it lol. Yes that comes with disadvantages, but also tons of advantages. Devs will be able to do things they haven't been able to do before on your client machine. @DarXyde because that's not how it works. This will take lots of time to test, iterate on and become viable for most people, or even value for money. What is for sure is that there will probably be significant improvement over time. This WILL improve, you can be sure of that.
nyu1, "because that's not how it works. This will take lots of time to test, iterate on and become viable for most people, or even value for money. What is for sure is that there will probably be significant improvement over time. This WILL improve, you can be sure of that." So what are betas for? Google is charging a premium for an inconsistent platform with no compelling software and limited performance. They launched before they were ready, plain and simple.
I wish these ideas would die but maybe if enough companies fail then maybe it will. Streaming will produce lag. It's bad enough now with online games like COD and others. Imagine having to stream a game like that instead of playing it locally. All these companies try and sell an idea like Netflix when streaming movies and music doesn't require input from the user.
Don't forget input delay as well. I have seen videos of people experiencing a full second of input delay.
The only shot Stadia had at success was a subscription that included a pool of free games like Gamepass. Nobody is gonna pay $60 (on top of the sub and possible data costs) to stream games that came out last year.
If they want to be the Netflix of games they're gonna have to actually charge like Netflix. Who wants to pay for the right to pay more?
We might be surprised. People are gladly giving up rights and ownership for ease of use so you never know
Nothing makes me happier - sooner it's forgotten about the better. Roll it out in another 10yrs or so.
How about never?😁
I hope it's never, but I think everything moving to the cloud is inevitable.
I'd be more than happy for that mate - just trying to be a little nice.
OnLive launched in June of 2010, so it's been almoat 10 years. Now someone can try in another 10 and try again.
Just proves the point doesn't it, we've come a lomg way in 10yrs and the infrastructure still can't support it.
@oldboy Funny thing, 10 years ago, or 6 or so I guess, I made several mentions how the infrastructure wasn't going to be ready for this kind of stuff in the near future. Here we are, some 6 odd years later, and nothing has changed when it comes to internet infrastructure, and ISP's are fighting over net neutrality, after the tax payers helped subsidize them improving their backbone networks for internet in the first place.
Never plus or minus 10 years lol 😁
Wow how disappointing
Best news of the day, it couldn't have gone any better.
It would have been useful know if the experience improved under a wired connection. We could then rule out flaky WiFi.
His WiFi is better than many peoples hardline 250-350mb or so is great , but WiFi is required
Wired as in Ethernet LAN. WiFi regardless of potential bandwidth is less stable than Ethernet. His Chromecast supports Ethernet.
Anyone who did the Project Stream test with Assassin's Creed Odyssey (like myself) could have seen this one coming. Even with perfect internet conditions (hardwire, high bandwidth allowance, no one else online, done at around 12am) it was lagging and stuttering with bad latency for controls.
It ran flawless for me.
If that's what actually happened, then good for you, but doesn't change the bad experience I/many others had or the issues even reviewers are having.
I don't believe you
Theres always one lol.
Thats what casuals would say, hence Google's audience.
I live in the US and don't have the best internet. I feel truly sorry for those of you making these stupid comments.
This is great news. Bring on PS5 so the next gen can really start!
If you expected any different congrats you're gullible enough to be part of Google's target audience!
Who could have foreseen this terrible outcome?
I could name a few people. All noticeably absent on this thread.
I know wifi is required for stadia, but even if it accepted wired internet I don't think it would fix it
Wifi would just exacerbate any issues. Most lag is introduced from the router to modem and then from the modem to the isp. Things no streaming service can really overcome, although I'm sure that ISPs will happily charge their users or these services more money to prioritize their data. Streaming games is just one of those things that sometimes itll work fine for the user, others will have bad experiences. Unfortunately, I feel it's one of those things that if people arent immediately impressed with the performance, they likely lost interest for a very long time, even after things may improve over time. People often get set in their ways on this kind of stuff
I read that in Ryan Gosling's voice in The Big Short
Forbes has become a joke and it's all because of this one guy, Paul Tassi. That dude is an idiot.
Says someone who seems to be working for stadia. Above comment when a tester claims he saw this coming because in perfect scenario lagged him badly you claim it wnver did to you which is impossible. Since his claims goes on pair with many other tasters except you. Who are you? Are you been paid by google or just a fanboy of stadia the console that doesn't exist and is about to die before it releases lol. I can see gamestop doing a gaming streaming service but who the f is Google to even think they could be successful without experience or a idea of what truly needed or gamers want. Maybe if Google buys gamestop name and uses it relationships with gaming studios and experience in the game industry. With other well know game dev's maybe then They could start doing something in the gaming industry but been tech savy and saying you can do magic and read my mind to play games it's the mot stupid pr ever seen lol ps they definitely need a console to help maybe something like shield that also helps you do use as server and do kodi etc. This streaming only will not succeed now or never. Its not a future thing either. Internet never be stable or good enough
I knew it would be crap as soon as they announced this useless shit. Just leave gaming to the pros. Nintendo, Microsoft, & Sony. Thats how it will be for the future as it always is. I would throw in PC as well but that's an open platform.
decades ago streaming video on a 33.3kbs modem at 200x200 people said well internet doesn’t work as good as my vcr. Maybe in a few decades game streaming will work.
Possibly, although the "well video works with streaming now" argument doesn't factor in the difference that a video you are streaming isn't reliant on your input in the way that games are.
It's Forbes, so, even if i'm not a Stadia fan, I take everything that comes from this site with a very tiny grain of salt.
This is not the future of gaming. If it is, I will be logging out.
Nah man, you can’t until you’ve finished the backlog of shame.