Sony Grants Refunds to PS4 Buyers of WWE 2K20

Despite many of the recent titles being successful, The release of WWE 2K20 on October 22nd, 2019 was called one of the most catastrophic releases yet. In order to overcome this Sony grants refunds to PS4 buyers.

[paradigmfellow]

Are you sure this is not the one time life courtesy refund?

[mikeslemonade]

Wwe 2k has always been bad. They don’t deserve the refund.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

Good thing it's not up to you whether someone gets a refund then, since that's not any of this works.

[CorndogBurglar]

Previous WWE 2K's have at least been playable. Whether they were fun or not is a matter of opinion. This thing is a broken mess and people deserve refunds.

[outsider1624]

Thats a bit harsh. Previous wwe have been playable, infact they're actually good. This new one though..i have no words for it. And im a Wwe fan( always bought wwe for legends, since they're my idols).

Im gonna buy wwe2k 19 instead. I skipped 19 because i thought we would get the best in 2k20. Boy, was i wrong.

[patrickman]

They got what they paid for, so no need to refund them.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

That's what someone in the wrestling subreddit mentioned, it's more than likely because of that and not an exception

[paradigmfellow]

I do not understand the downvotes. I ask a perfectly valid question that was not answered by the article. I personally want people to get their refunds back so that they stop feeding this kind of behavior.

[SwagginMcdoodles]

Probably the WWE dick riders, which are arguably more annoying the Kojima ones.

[Tross]

Who buys these kinds of games at launch? It’s commonly known that early adopters are just glorified free testers for these kinds of third party titles. Actually, scratch that, early adopters pay for the pleasure of testing the game.

[TheColbertinator]

Good on them but WWE 2K needs some serious Q&A

[Jin_Sakai]

WWE 2K20 was fully developed by Visual Concepts. The previous games were developed by Yuke’s. So there lies the problem.

[Livingthedream]

Yup most of the people that play these games are super casual fans, I doubt they even know who used to develop the old games, which from what I've heard much better quality than the 2k games.

[Magic_Spatula]

Yep, Yuke's left roughly midway through development to start their own ventures and took the source code with them. Visual Concepts quickly put together whatever they could using the codes they had from previous games. It was a shitty situation that ended in a bad game. Game should have honestly been delayed but Take Two gotta make their quarterlies somehow.

[Crayder]

Good on them, but some of those bugs are hilarious. I'm not even sure if I'd take a refund.

[Chocoburger]

Oh really? Dear Sony (and Microsoft too), you both allowed this digital junk on your platforms. You have the power to refuse game certification, but you chose not to out of incessant greed.

Offering refunds is fine and dandy, but you allowed the issue to happen in the first place.
Yes, of course this is Take 2 and WWE's problem as well, but the game can never reach a player without certification from a first party publisher. Certification was granted when it shouldn't have, the whole point of certification is to prevent broken games from reaching the player. A broken game has reached the player, it happens all the time in fact.

[The_Sage]

So, in your opinion, play testers that are in house are not to be trusted at all, and platform holders are responsible for play testing all content. Should the same apply to other industries? The publisher sent this book to my book store, but I must have someone read it to be sure it's a well written book, or I won't sell it to my customers? Even if they want it? Seems a bit silly.

Not only that, but Sony nor Microsoft certify 3rd party games.

[Chocoburger]

How clueless are you? Of course first party publishers require certification prior to selling a game on their platform! This trend started with the Famicom back in the early 80s. Even game patches have to be certified prior to being placed on the download servers.

Please educate yourself before posting on this subject further:

- https://community.gemsofwar...

- Ninja Gaiden for Xbox could not be certified by Microsoft because none of the American play testers could complete the game on the highest difficulty setting. Team Ninja had to send their best (and perhaps only) Japanese play tester to America and show off completing the game in front of them to prove it was possible. This was required in order for the game to be certified and thus sold.

- https://sonyreconsidered.co...

- https://www.reddit.com/r/PS...

- https://kotaku.com/so-how-l...

- https://arstechnica.com/gam...

- https://www.wired.com/2008/...

[The_Sage]

Did you actually read any of those links?.. I did. They talk about the platform holders granting them certification to allow publication, not certifying the product. All the platform holders are doing is being sure that the game fits within guidelines before allowing the product on their system. It's not like the old days of Nintendo's crooked seal of approval.

[Magic_Spatula]

This is basically how it's done. These system developers don't have all the time in the world to play every single game through to completion before it releases on their systems. Someone most likely plays it at bare minimum to see if the game meets said system developer's guidelines. It's near impossible to police every single game that goes through their system.

[The_Sage]

Magic gets it. As long as the basic guidelines are met the game is a go.

[CorndogBurglar]

So by your logic its ultimately Sony and Microsoft's fault any time a bad game gets released? That's asinine.

[CorndogBurglar]

YOU need to educate YOURSELF. Those links aren't saying what you obviously think they are saying...if you even read them.

[Lon3wolf]

Those links are about 10 years old lol, they may not be even remotely relevant anymore.

[PCgamer98]

I don't get their obsession with focusing so much on simulation and physics over fun gameplay. It just made the game too damn broken and hilariously glitchy.

[jaymacx]

Too bad Aki (n64 wrestling games) isn’t still making new wrestling games. Someone needs to adopt their style of gameplay and they will make a ton of money lol. So sad that it’s almost 2020 and we can’t get a wrestling game that out shines 1998 games!

[The_Sage]

Good looking out, Sony.

[AK91]

That's a plus for me.

[ShadowKing-]

Not all have been so lucky to be refunded. i for one have tried 3 times and they will not refund me. no matter how many times i tell them the game is broken.

[Limitedtimestruggle]

That bad huh.

[RememberThe357]

It's a game about fake fighting. Why does it even exist?

[gamer7804]

This game will be on games pass for free in a month easy and be down to bargain bin prices to purchase.

[jjb1981]

2k' 13 was the best. 14 was good but the rest were garbage.

[Iamnothuman12]

I may be in the minority but I thought 2k19 was pretty good.

[VTKC]

This has certainly been one very disastrous and embarrassing month for some big game companies. From Chizzard, Ubegreedy and Bethesda. Wonder whats in store next month.

[ReVibe]

*Decarbonated Han Solo voice*
That bad, huh?

[SLiSH83]

Maybe if 2k would have let yukes take more chances on their WWE offerings maybe they would still be working together and not have to do a bad paint by numbers approach like they did with 2k20 and visual concepts.
But we will soon get a n64 no mercy style AEW game from yukes in the next year.

[Wasabi]

Good work Sony. Always glad to see a company shielding it's customers from garbage.

[william_cade]

ha!

[Xavi4K]

Sony fix what 2k break