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Steam asks user if they want to “revise” Destiny 2 review after 93 more hours

Looks like Valve is nudging users to update their opinions after more play time.

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Blu3_Berry1645d ago

This is one of the main reasons why I find the review system for Steam is extremely flawed. People can leave a negative review for a number of reasons, yet still end up putting hundreds of hours into that said game. Maybe all the technical bugs were fixed, but sadly those negative reviews may remain unchanged. Something does need to be done about it.

ElementX1644d ago

You can filter out reviews by time played

nowitzki20041644d ago (Edited 1644d ago )

On the games page, on Steam they have "All Reviews" but above it is "Recent reviews"

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Rachel_Alucard1644d ago

Why is it so hard to understand that people can tell other people not to waste their time like they did? Games aren't stationary anymore, they keep changing and early access is designed around that. You can play for hundreds of hours and then some things the dev does to the game could put you off of it causing you to go negative despite your playtime. How else are you supposed to look like you know what you are talking about without having a high playtime?

Teflon021644d ago

Alot of times you can tell if a review is still relevant. I actually don't see irrelevant reviews honestly. Steam does a good job of it. But I do think this is good. I think They should have a average time per game and prompt a review adjustment. Like If Ni no Kuni 2 on average takes 30-60 hours to beat, after 30 hours you're prompt and maybe at like 60 or 80. Also one for 100%ing a achievement list. I think that ones a key thing that should be done

rainslacker1644d ago

I think all user reviews should be allowed to be changed on online stores. I mean, sometimes one's initial impression changes as they play. I've played games that after 5 hours or so I may not review that well. But, for some reason at maybe 10 hours, they get really good.

Granted, this is usually more a story thing, and game play is typically good enough, so it wouldn't be for games that I'd rate really low, but the principal still applies to a lot of things.

Rude-ro1644d ago

I have over a thousand hours in the game...
And are you saying that more time spent in a constant world game can not go negative?

The base core grind is two years old.

$10 an event for something to do while you still have to grind the core grind for power turns the game negative.
Having to rebuild armor not once more, but two times while the offerings are still the base armor of the game is a negative.
The fact pvp is back in alpha after TWO betas while launched is a negative.

To a new player that has not played.. sure.. it can be a good game.... but for how long?

The game is 4 out of 10 now for a long time fan.
The hardcore that will not hate the game... hate the game but play due to their addiction to the game.

Orionsangel1644d ago

I've seen Steam reviews where they destroy a game and give it a red thumbs down and by the end of reading it they say, but I still recommend it.

Wait, what?

KillBill1644d ago

I can order a meal and finish it completely and still give it a negative review. I can watch a movie and sit through the entire show and still write a negative review. I can be in a relationship with someone and eventually move on from it after trying to make it work... and still give my assessment of how bad the relationship was. I can purchase a video game spending well earned money and try my damnedest to get to the end of it in hopes it improves later in the game. And still write a negative review.

I can play BF1 and think it has some bugs and such but hope it gets better... play it online for hours on hours and they keep patching it to the point I simply can't put any more time into it and stop buying Battlefield games all together because of how they completely jacked up the game. And still write a negative review about it.

yoshatabi1644d ago

I don't see how that's a problem with steam. More like a problem because of the person. And you can filter reviews. You're just reaching

xTonyMontana1644d ago

While your example makes sense, I still think Steam has one of the best review systems. Seeing how much time a person has put into a game gives the reviews credibility. Take Amazon for example, someone can leave a review on there and say "I have over 300 hours played" but most either don't or can't back that claim up with the proof like with Steam.

Fist4achin1644d ago

But, what about reviewing something at the time near release and it's a buggy mess. I'm tried of unfinished/unrefined games being released by triple A developers. Is this what you would want with a car or home repair? Unfinished shoddy work that needs to be fixed over and over again?!

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Spenok1644d ago

I agree with this. They should have a required review update every so many hours.

Every 10... maybe every 50 hours of playtime? Or maybe, have the hour limit change depending on the genre/type of game.

Whatever way they review it (favorable or not), if they don't update it based on the additional game time they put in, valve will delete the review.

That way we know the reviews are more current. And, if the person REALLY cared for their review to stay up, they can "update" the review, but just leave it the same as before. I get that's circumventing the whole idea I'm presenting... but many wouldn't care to make sure their review stays up. And then we'd only have (for the most part) reviews from gamers who DO care about what they have to say about the games they review.

And again, it's only based on game time. So if someone plays a game for 3 hours, leaves a negative review, but never plays it again. They won't ever have to update that review because they never hit the next threshold for a required "Review update".

Just my two cents.

xX1NORM1Xx1644d ago

This is cool, I hate that reviews will be left up when they no longer apply but it’s a hard thing to manage obviously if a game has game breaking bugs you want to warn people but what about when those bugs are fixed does the game still deserve the possible hit in sales?

Microsoft’s store is fucking awful but the fact that by default it only shows reviews of the current version is a really good way to get around this problem, however that also means the positive reviews and reviews that talk about problems that aren’t just launch issues or bugs go away too.

It’s a very hard thing to manage I don’t envy steam/Xbox/PSN smaller indies live and die on reviews if a game gets review bombed for political reasons or some stupid bullshit besides the quality of the game it can kill a indie studio. I almost feel like user reviews shouldn’t be on the clients but then obviously you can’t warn people when something dodgy is going on... I really can’t settle on a solution every time I think about this I just spiral and end up arguing with myself.

Some will say it encourages companies to launch in the best state possible but I don’t think that’s true and what about accidents like uploading the wrong build? I’ve heard of a few indies doing that or what about great games that have server issues day one and get review bombed? As I said I do not envy these platforms.

MAULxx1644d ago

What's the point of even having user reviews if you want them to change or update their review? If the game launched with issues then that's what happened. Why should reviews be deleted because the game was patched as some seem to suggest.

BrainSyphoned1643d ago

I ’m enjoying the new train wreck wwe2k20 even though it is a terrible game. Just because I am playing it to see how bad it is doesn’t mean it is suddenly worth spending money on or giving it a thumbs up.

If we go by hours played Clicker Heroes 1 is the greatest video game of all time.

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The Epic Games Store Has Two More Freebies this Week

It's time to add two more games to your library for free from the Epic Games Store.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7223h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus232h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10112h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos12h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac11h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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EGX and MCM Comic Con combine for the UK's biggest pop culture weekend

You'll know of EGX. You'll know of MCM Comic Con. Today the two events have confirmed that they'll be coming together under one roof

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