Rumours have resurfaced that PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale may be making a comeback on the upcoming PlayStation console. But should it really be reived?
Do something different than a poor man's Smash Bros clone. Make it like the Project X Zone series which by the way needs to come to consoles. Do something like that or Dissidia. If you're gonna copy, copy from something not quite as obvious.
it needs a big Japanese developer behind it ...and also Crash bandicoot as the first face in the cover and secondarily Cloud , Jill Chris and Solid Snake at least to have a decent attention form the fans
"...it needs a big Japanese developer behind it" I think a western dev could handle it, but yeah, it may need that Japanese quirkiness to make it stand out. "..and also Crash bandicoot as the first face in the cover and secondarily Cloud , Jill Chris and Solid Snake at least to have a decent attention form the fans" Agreed, the first one felt like advertisements from third party devs who were promoting their latest games by letting Sony use them and not the classics that should have been included in the game.
They should remake it to look and play more like Dragon Ball Z Fighters! that would be awesome.
The problem is that it wasn't a Smash Clone They tried to do something within the game that was Smash but wasn't and they paid for it instead of just embracing it and making the best game they could No one liked having to get a Lv 3 Super constantly JUST to throw your enemies off the stage, seeing those Super animations over and over was dreadful. I just want to knock enough health off them and hit them out of the stage and if that means having it "be like Smash" then fair enough If they wanted to do something to really set its self apart from Snash then they should have made it more close to the Outfoxies, something Smash based their games off.
"The problem is that it wasn't a Smash Clone" I disagree completely. The same concept, gameplay design and style of Smash does make PS All Stars a clone. The only way they tried to differentiate themselves from Smash was the Lv 3 supers to knock your opponent off stage...I mean, c'mon, knocking your opponent off stage is directly a rip from Smash. I have no issues with PS trying a Smash of their own the same way I wish Sony and MS would make a copy of Mario Kart using their own mascots. The problem is if you're going to do something like the competition make it better or go in a completely different direction so the obvious comparisons won't be made. "Smash then they should have made it more close to the Outfoxies, something Smash based their games off" I love that you know about Outfoxies because that is a classic game. I personally don't think thats true though because in Outfoxies you had weapons and used the actual stage to defeat your opponents. But if you're going to call Smash something based off Outfoxies then you have to recognize PS All Stars is a copying Smash. Also I think if they were to go in the Project X Zone direction, I think they would be able to get the license for those characters you mentioned below a lot easier.
I actually loved it... ESPECIALLY with it being during clutch moments which were super common and competitive as fuuuuu***kkk loool
I kind of felt that all the different styles didn't mesh well together. Smash for the most part, kind of feels like it all goes together...even if the characters themselves aren't originally in that Nintendo style. Game play wasn't that bad in PASBR, but yeah, it was more a race to get to the power move, than any real skill to become better than someone else. There's nothing wrong with it being like smash. There are plenty of fighting games which are like one another, but still unique in their own way.
Yeah, I agree with you. I think Sony should make a game like Capcom's Marvel vs Capcom or Nether Realm's Injustice. It would fit the company philosophy and player base much better. A well-made Smash clone will be the target of numerous press criticism and free attacks from the vocalic Nintendo Fandom.
"It would fit the company philosophy and player base much better." Agreed 100%, i think one of the reasons Smash Bros works is the fact that Nintendo mascots are mostly friendly heroic figures and seeing them all fight is not only fun to see but a departure from their normal character. Playstation characters are all mostly violent anti heroes and nothing is cute about seeing them in some type of brawler style smash game. Make it more in tune with their fan base and what they usually play on Playstation.
I completely disagree with you like i saw your disagreement with someone below when they stated they DIDN'T copy Smash because the simple truth is they didn't, i put in WAYYYYY over 100 hours in that game FOR SUREEE!!! Me and my friends genuinely loved that game and i can categorically tell you my love for Raiden Sky rocketted after that game lool... But in terms of gameplay they both share the same genre so the general gameloop will ALWAYS stay the same... Battlefield isnt a copy of CoD like CoD isn't a copy of CS:GO... They're simply all FPS games and thus the gameplay mechanics all share a similar bases... Smash being the original and only true game to take the genre seriously will always be the blueprint but any game that comes in the genre is in a 'damned if you do, damned if you dont category'. If they copy Smash to a tee they'll get blasted as a Smash clone that isn't good because Smash does it better (even if it isn't true) and if they make changes to the formula like PSABR ABSOLUTELY DOES!!!! They get slaughtered as a Smash clone that isn't good enough to even compete even if those changes are positive. The point im making is, the points per kill approach to the game ABSOLUTELY changes the game because it keeps everyone in the game fairly and you earn your points through the kill, all the characters have a tell and you know how to dodge and parry to get clear of the finisher hit radius, And ontop of all of that the theres 3 levels of Super making each level stronger and that much harder to dodge meaning you can collect AP orbs to fill your bar and aim to get a higher Super level so you can potentially kill more targets which would mean you need to make sure you play attacking enough to earn AP but ALSO defensively minded enough that you aren't taking any significant amount of damage so that you lose YOUR AP orbs that you cant do higher level Supers while the clock is ticking down and you lack the points to get the potential win. Do you save up for a level 3 Super and kill as many targets as you can in one go or do you finish enemies with level 1's and the occasional level 2 ALL while the clock is ticking down and other people are deploying different tactics and you're last in the scoring because you decided to go with whatever tactics you want to... When you change a games ENTIRE scoring system then fundamentally it's SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE to be the same as another game when the ENTIRE means of 'success' is different... I've said ALL this and i havent even gone onto mention map variety, Character variety with EVERYONE having worth, combos, etc... PSABR was DEFFFOOOOO not a generic clone of Smash, Smash is great and PSABR was given the short end of a shitty stick because whenever ANY game comes out that tries to compete with Nintendo in a genre they are the dominant force in, Nintendo fans simply do not let it happen regardless of the ACTUAL quality of the work. This was LONG AS F**K and my bad but i needed to explain just broadly (whether or not you or anyone for that matter ACTUALLY reads this looool)
I really understand your point. PSASBR is a different game, but it shares a lot with Smash. And, for me, this is negative because I don't like too much Smash either. For me, making PSASBR 2 a fighting game like Marvel vs Capcom or even Injustice is far more desireble than keep what they made before. The characters and worlds fit a lot better in this kind of scenario and I don't think PlayStation as the "to go" platform to play with 4 friends in the same couch. I think the game needs to fit the player base better the same way Smash fits the Nintendo player base.
I read it and I definitely see your points. PS All Stars in my opinion just failed to capture the same audience and magic that Smash did unlike other games that copied a formula, whether in the FPS genre or other fighting games like SF (which if you think about it are also very few). Because Smash is so popular, everyone was going to point out the similarities even if PSAS did some things differently. Unfortunately for a lot of people and the critics those changes just didn't wok out. This is why I suggest Sony go in a whole new direction so the obvious comparisons aren't made. Nintendo just has such a foothold in the Smash style fighting genre that it would be tough for anyone to make their own version of it.
I kind of feel like they can go the Overwatch route do a team based arena multiplayer with heavy emphasis on the team composition.
Hmmmm..I like the sound of that too.
I'm with you this game felt half done and lacked content compared to smash bros. I was hyped for it as well but felt like a let down. Like I felt with MNR on the PSV loved the ps4 version and tbh love to see MNR 2 for ps4/ps5 more than ps all stars
If it's anything like the first, please no. The fact that it's rumored to be developed by Capcom also has me saying no, given how money hungry they'd get.
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if it was pick one character and fight all of the others in a one-on-one format with each character having their own zany special moves and such - i'd buy it for sure. as a battle royale, i'm not as interested.
It's not that I'm against this coming back, but I'd rather have Sony focus on new IPs including the ones Sony's studios made this generation. In other words, I'd rather see Sony put their resources elsewhere.
Or maybe digging up an older IP from PS/PS2 days and remastering or rebooting it. There's no shortage there...
Powerstone / God of War Ascensions MP style of combat is what the template should be. They should definitely try it again.
Can you really compete with all the characters Smash Bros have? It would need every character they could get, Croc, Gabe Logan, Crash, Spyro, Lara Croft, Tomba, Chris Redfield, Heather Mason, Regina, Goku, Joel/Ellie, Nathan Hale, Naked Snake, Classic Dante, Cloud, Squall, Zidane, Tidus, Leon S Kennedy, Aloy, Max Payne, Alucard, Trevor Belmont, Serge, Klonoa, Dart so on.
Isnt one in makes according to the rumours? But i loved this game, I got both the platinum on PS3 and Vita
Yes, but only if it features Joel and Ellie.
Some say to make it different than Super Smash but I say make it like Super Smash, not 100% like Smash, but enough that people feel familiarize with it. They can still make it have unique stuff and feel new while keeping that old feel as well.
If they make it good then I wouldn’t mind seeing another but the first felt like they were just riding on the fact that playing as these awesome characters would shift units but there wasn’t much to the game. Smash was a fighting game before it was a Nintendo character get together look it up, it had solid mechanics and then got a Nintendo skin to help sell it. if you take away the playstation skin from all stars your left with a dime a dozen party fighter that gets released on steam every other month. They could make something great but it would require they take their time and perfect the mechanics and put a new spin on the genre then I’d be up for it, nobody wants playstation smash if it’s just gonna be a carbon copy set yourself apart and make a game worthy of the awesome characters you have. Post PS4 Sony could do something great with the concept, ps3 Sony just wanted some of Nintendo’s Wii money with move and playstation all stars.
PSASBR wasn’t that big of a game. I don’t think it even sold over 3 million. What’s there to make a comeback to?
It was alright, but it made me just want to play Smash Bros.
I loved the idea of this game and even had some fun playing it, but it fell short in its execution. If its shortcomings could be addressed though, I think Sony could really have something. If that means literally ripping off Smash then so be it.
Short answer... ABSOLUTELY!!!
I really really enjoyed the game. It was more fun than Smash. Smash is dull as hell. I think Sony should make another brawler but not a mascot brawler. It should be it's own original IP because I sincerely doubt that they could ever get a roster that pleases the players. It will always be compared to Smash Ultimate which has ever character from the series and then some more.
I mean. I know it’s just your opinion, but damn, most people would disagree that smash is dull.
I really tried to get into Smash for Wii U but I found it to be too simplistic. All Stars had really awesome environments that really change up. I'm sure Ultimate is probably better than the Wii U version.
Rumors Also saying Capcom would be behind this Revive In collaboration with Sony.
Yes, it would be nice to have a sequel with new ps characters. That being said, it cannot surpass smash Bros by any means.
Sure, but only if they go HAM in iconic character cameos, you gotta have crash, spyro, snake, Lara etc. And the need a different combat system/win condition cause it really wasnt that satisfying.
Despite its issues, I put a lot of hours on Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale, and I would love it if it made a comeback. Many are saying they should make a sequel into something else (Like a traditional fighting game, seeing as rumors say the sequel might be developed by Capcom), but me? I hope they bring it back like the original, but with the inclusion of healthbars. Heathlbars could function as a way to prevent matches from dragging on for too long, and to get a chance to kill those who keep running away. And super moves could work as insta-kills, even if your healthbar is full. I enjoyed what they did with PS All-Stars. Killing characters with super moves was not a bad idea. But the game, in my opinion, was in desperate need of healthbars.
100% that game had so much potential
Yeah they absolutely should bring it back., And whole they are at it.... Driveclub 2
Just make it better than Smash.
Absolutely. I loved the game a lot actually and plugged a lot of time into it.
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