LOS ANGELES, Nov 11, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Square Enix, Inc., the publisher of Square Enix(R) interactive entertainment products in North America, announced an updated lineup for the first quarter of 2009 today.
When is SE going to start showing some love for ps3. They claim to support both wii, 360, and ps3 - so, where's the love for the ps3?
I dont like square any more.I hate game companys that screw up a game because of money.If ms did not do what they did i can assure u that FF13 will be coming out either this christmas or early next year, but now its multi plat they have to downgrade it and delay it.Square can go suck a d1ck (-_-)
@1.1 do you have any proof that it has been downgraded or delayed because of the 360? Or are you just in love with Sony?
not trying to be serious here. what if they put it on the 360 because the ps3 couldn't handle the FF13 graphics so the put it on the 360 so it would take the blame. versus doesn't look as good as 13 does. it looks great only because of the grittiness to it. but this was just something i was bored and thought of. you know like the killzone 2 trailer. -nai-
Square enix was struggling with the cost of making final fantasy 13, thats why they made the game multi-platform. So they could make a profit on it. People like you always make generalisations! (you see what I did there ;) ) Your wrong about it taking longer now too, since they went multiplatform they have put more man power behind it since they have more incentive. It won't make any differance to quality of game since it is being ported from PS3 to 360. Square-enix is a business, not a fanboy. There decisions are based on logic... which is more than I can say for you... =P
what a bunch of liers! thank u MS again for screwing up PS3 fans, they could have got the game after it is done on ps3 but no they want it to be date and hour in the same time so they gave SE an extra money for that..... so sad how SE became, yes money is very important but is it more important then losing fans and losing quality games???? thats why i hate MS in the gaming industry, they only ruin ps3 fans experience and with their limited hardware, and the reason i hate their OS is because i have to restart it on daily bases in order to work properly and i have to format it every couple of months and always crashes
open zone ----------> from the heart rant of a know nothing fanboy. n4g at it's best. it's gotta be said that i'm not looking at buying any SE games in the near future.
Maybe one day SquareEnix will wake up and release a JRPG on the PS3 so they can actually make some damn money.... They still haven't announced a date for the PS3 version of The Last Remnant. I don't know what the heck is up with Square's growing relationship with Microsoft, but their games will always sell more on the Sony and Nintendo platform, and those are the platforms they should focus on the most.
Aside from all this "one system is holding back the other" nonsense... the fact is FFXIII has to be released some time. And soonish. Which means I'm sure their intended dev schedule will be truncated now, due to dual platform development. THere is only so much time, money, and manpower that will be put into this game. Things WILL be cut due to scheduling conflicts, I guarantee it. And that disappoints me. Also, the thing that irks me most is not that its multiplatform, as more gamers get to enjoy it. No, its Square Enix's insistence on HOLDING BACK THE US RELEASE OF THE PS3 EDITION until they are finished with the 360 port as well. That right there annoys me more than anything. As for Last Remnant... I don't think it will be ready in time. Did you see the vids on Kotaku? YOu can see whole models loading, let alone textures. It looks sloppy and slow, and I'm utterly disappointed. And this is the 360 edition of a U3 game! The PS3 version will probably be butchered in comparison.
Do you have proof that SE is holding back the FF13 release of the PS3 because of the 360 ? The white engine is build for both consoles, and who knows its so flexible that FF13 can be ported in less then a month to the 360. So unless you have a source that states that SE claims they are holding it back, you are just trolling.
If Square-Enix is really in this for money and that is the only reason that FF13 went multi-plat.... why isn't Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean 4 multi-plat games????? Also why are they taking forever in announcing The Last Remnant for the PS3 (if they are doing one at all)? If it was business sense for FF13 what's up their they business sense in these games???? I have both platforms but I clearly prefer my RPG's on the PS3. I don't think the 360 does any justice to them.
Because the IP infinite Undiscovery is owned by microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/li... Microsoft was supposed to publish the game but instead gave the publishing rights to Square-enix,hence the start of their relationship.Star Ocean 4 i believe will be a timed exclusive.
"Do you have proof that SE is holding back the FF13 release of the PS3 because of the 360?" Because SE said it themselves that FFXIII for the 360 will not be started on until the Japanese Version is complete. Then it goes into localization for the U.S. version, which most likely won't take as long as porting the entire game for the 360. So it's a f'in no brainer and doesn't take a damn genius to figure out that the U.S. PS3 version will be held until the 360 version is done.
It seems like SE feels that all games for Ps3 have to be graphically superior, and use the Ps3's power! So it may be a bit longer before you hear about more Ps3 games from SE. They are already working on FFXIII and and Versus, so they do have games coming to the Ps3. But it's just the fact that they have to pack so much into a Ps3 game that you may not hear alot as quick as you want to! Don't worry though... Great games are coming your way! @ Below... I think FFXIII will release about May or June in Japan like MGS 4 did, and will release Oct. or Nov. for U.S. and Euro! SE needs to start making some money and can't sit on this game for that much longer. They are probably further along than some would believe, but want to focus on finishing the game!
Still no sign of FF-XIII.
This is for Q1. We won't see FFXIII till late 09 or earlier 10.
Yep. Don't Expect FFXIII till late 09 in Japan and somewhere in 2010 for the rest of the world.
Still no sign of a release date for last remnant on ps3 either, what the hell SE?
No im not in love with sony and im not a fan boy either(read my profile) FF13 was almost finished before it was multiplat,and i can remember a couple of months ago they was news that had proof that it was delayed for the 360 and it was going to be downgraded because the 360 can match the ps3 graphics.(i dont have the link)it was a long time ago that news came up,around summer time.
it will come in in japan before america and the american and european versions will come about 9 months after that. It might come to Japan quarter 1
screwed up big time this time!! they were on schedule to release the game on december in japan and later on in NA and europe, but now the game is nowhere to be seen! for SE own sake i hope MS payed them THAT much to make up the losses! i bet that FF13 wont be even exclusive in japan by the time of release! and for SE own sake i hope they really deliver a master peace that no game to date made a master peace like it and it is multiplatform! i really hope they dont downgrade the ps3 version, if they do that u could say the game will not have half the sales of FF7 or FF10 since both were first in their generations!
it has something to do with FF13 being on the xbox360 now. I think SE doesn't want to release the PS3 version one year and then release a crappy xbox360 port the next year. Either way I bet the devs don't have that same image of ff13 with the PS3 intact.
Then why not delay last remnant like they are doing with FFXIII?
They are not holding back FF13 The game is simply not done yet, SE always has long dev times, and in this case they are even slower then usually. When it comes to Last remnant, that game is delayed as well, because it uses the Unreal engine, and the unreal engine is hard to get running on the PS3, on the 360 however these problems dont exist.
I think the gap in release date is bigger for FF13 on the PS3 and xbox360 so I guess they are holding out on the PS3 version so that it won't crush the xbox360 version in sales. Either way a paycheck is involved SE should be grateful that the smaller JRPG developers haven't hit their stride because they would have a big problem.
I agree with microsoft paycheck being invovle.
You cant have Microsoft in a sentence without paycheck going with
At 4.1 and 4.2 Could you show proof that MS payed for exclusivity ?, and i want a direct source that states it. If you dont have a source youre just trolling. Only thing MS payed for so far is Exclusive DLC for GTAIV, but it has been stated this has been for the development of the DLC (about 25M for developing each DLC, which is quite normal for two big Addons). Its obvious the DLC didnt go to the PS3, it would have if Sony would have payed halve of the development costs.
@4.3 wake up man.. stop your blindness, Microsoft pay for everything its how they work, you like it or not thats what they do I dont mind about what they do with their money tho, good for them if it make them profit. Oh and they paid for fallout 3 dlc, ff13 has a big check involved too (dont try to avoid it)probably star ocean too for being timed exclusive
Square Enix seem to be milking their NintendoDS games quite a lot
...FFXIII for 2011 confirmed. FFXIII Versus for the next millennium. I mean...what the hell...
S-E is a spiraling death cycle...
S-E are too dense to see that Japan is not the strong presence it was in the game industry like it was in prior generations. I think it's all relative to Sony and its success. Look at the PS2 and PS1, and you'll see that the success of those consoles, translated to the Japanese games developers and publishers' success. Japanese developers, in particular S-E, definitely need to start supporting the PS3. Make exclusives or just make them multiplat from the start. You actually think year old ports sell..? Good luck with that. Putting a JRPG on the 360 is not helping it sell better, contrary to its install base in America. They still sell like sh!t.
Very valid points. Year old ports seldomly sell well. I'm pretty sure this is why S-E is holding back the PS3 launch. If the game launches on PS3 first, then all of the fervor for FFXIII will sell more PS3s and current PS3 owners will buy the game. Then when the 360 owners have their chance to get it, the meager few owners that are actually waiting for it, will buy it and the game will have far fewer sales. I still think MS bribed S-E to withhold the PS3 launch because they knew this would happen. S-E's gone money hungry, and with MS holding the feedbag, S-E's chomping at the bit. I like my 360 well enough but I'll still get the game on my PS3, the system that it was originally designed for.
I really like Se but I used to Love Square at the 32 bit era and before that. The last JRPGs seems soo dump, I used to love then but these days they are soo much focused to atract children and because of that I am loving Bethesda and other ocidental companies that makes RPGs over the super famous reputation of jRpgs. A FFXIII coming preaty much on the same year that the new Elder Scrolls V will arrives... well for me I doubt this new FF will be the best RPG of the year(2010) Why the hell every Jrpg these days the protagonist got to be 9 years old and the story got to be so crazy as the MGS series is ?
Square Enix is a big business to they obliviously know how to run a business but an average joe such as myself is rather perplexed with the strategy they are taking. The main one which confuses me is 360 exclusives and most of all the lack of Wii support. Well SE are making a huge loss as of now so not long until we see some drastic decisions made.
I believe they're not supporting the Wii because the general demographic of the Wii are "casual" gamers. The people that game on the Wii, albeit not all of them, generally just play games as a way to kill time or just have fun. RPGs generally offer more in depth gameplay than these people are used to playing. That's not to say that all Wii gamers don't play RPGs, Lord knows there are some that do, but I believe that S-E thinks there's not enough of a core install base to bother. They make most of their money developing for the core-based consoles.
They have a total of 6 Wii games announced or already out. out already. Chocobos dungeon,DQswords,Soul Eater, FFCCMLAK, FFCC:CB, FFCC:EoT. Granted it should be more for how good Wii games sale.
Fair enough Captain Sony. You're right, obviously they are making properties available on the Wii, I was misinformed and I admit my mistake. Although the CC games aren't generally recognized as games in the FF series in and of itself. If you watch the DVD provided with the FFXII Collector's Edition, the people interviewed about the FF series as a whole don't even mention Crystal Chronicles on the GC. The CC series is viewed more as a sidenote in the series that's only on the Nintendo side of things. As for DQ Swords, you're right, that property as also available, but when I look at the sales numbers it only made the big sales in Japan. Of course it sold outside of Japan, but it didn't make a big dent west of the Land of the Rising Sun. You're right, they have and are making properties on the Wii. But aside from some good sales in Japan, those titles aren't selling big outside of the island based nation. When I speak about S-E, I'm talking their larger titles. Star Ocean, mainstream FF games and so on. The titles on the Wii are obviously relevant but since only a marginal audience buys them, I can't completely count them. But thank you on informing me of the Wii titles, you're right on there.
But love Squaresoft. Squaresoft used to be love for video games. Square-Enix is love for money money and more money. Good thing Level-5 came around in right time! They are as good as Squaresoft and looks Square-Enix look bad.
Some good games but overall the list sucks. Nothing too promising.
Did you even check the list ? Dragon Quest, Valkyrie Profile and Star ocean are all great series. Where are the bad games you mentioned ? O wait.... this list doesnt contain any ps3 games, no wonder your pissing on the list.
List is this: Remake Remake Remake Remake.
The new Star Ocean for the 360 isnt a remake.
What about all others? Remake Remake Remake remake
Fox, why can't you just stop making excuses? Why SHOULDN'T they support PS3 players (they ARE, after all, part of the gamers in the world, why exclude them from the rest of the gaming world), and why do they have to shun the PS3 to get your approval? I'm sure if they were trying to shun the 360 somehow, you would be in a riot right now (and don't tell me you wouldn't be, because judging from what I've seen out of the 360 fanboys, you would and you know you would). They're saying one thing then doing another, and they don't care how much bad press they are getting. At least with Valve, they are not hiding how much they "hate" the PS3 (even though that doesn't make it any better). You going about acting as though it's alright that they screw a bunch of gamers just so MS and you can have your way (and that they are required to do such to get your approval and that everyone has to accept that, you're saying that basically, and again, you ARE saying that, don't try to deny you are, we're all seeing it) is absolutely uncalled for.
So much misinformation in these comments. FACT: SE stated that they ARE holding back the U.S. and European releases of the PS3 version of FFXIII because of the 360. They said that they will release these versions, along with the 360 version, as soon as the 360 version is completed, and they will not even begin development of the 360 port until AFTER the Japanese version of FFXIII is fully completed. Once they start localization on the PS3 version, they will start porting the 360 version. FACT: SE has stated that the PS3 version WILL NOT have altered quality to compensate for the 360's limitations. However, they also stated that both versions will be as close to identical as possible, so believe what you want there. Personally, I don't really think that even they have what it takes to make that possible, considering FFXIII was originally built from the ground up for the PS3. I doubt they can do the same with a 360 port. FACT: SE are sellouts.
Fanboyism blinds people. Many of us already know SE are sellouts and the evidence are clear as daylight. It's like 2 guys are in an elevator, one guy farts and blames the other guy. It's too obvious.
I loved that episode of Family Guy.
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