The game is boorish, infantile, and violent, and, in refusing to take any sort of consistent stand, is wildly off the mark.
Not understanding what kind of stand your expecting it too make. This is what the borderlands series has always been about just a refinement of it.
Borderlands never took stands. Its narrative and jokes were meant to poke fun at the arguments used by those who take stands...typically those who take the extreme. For politically motivated subjects, they actually have the universe set in a time where acceptance of things that usually divide us as a society now are tolerated or not even a consideration. If borderlands is doing any kind of stand, its through allegory about the inherent corruption of power, but I think they use that more as a story trope to give reason to have a bad guy than make a statement about big brother, or mega corporations controlling our life
The game is wall to wall pop-culture references and memes, but it doesn't seem to strike people as clever. It has nothing to say about the meme's or the culture it exists in, they just pumped it full of those things because the "kids will recognize them". It comes off as "Not another FPS game: The Movie" A game like this could have had a lot of interesting things to say or even have been a parody if it tried, and some are disappointed it didn't. Not every game has to, but you have to admit more effort is appreciated. If you enjoy it, awesome. If you don't, that's awesome too.
Yeah, that's basically what it is. One of those things that satarizes pop culture. A game like this could have a lot of interesting things to say, but that's not what the developer was going for, and based on the other games, it doesn't appear they want to take that route. They have a semi-serious story, which doesn't take itself too seriously. It's supposed to be fun, not an introspective look at society or culture. Whether it's clever or not is subjective. I find some of the things funny, others I don't, or at least have no opinion on. The ones I find funny tend to be those that I recognize as a current topic making the rounds, which I may have been a part of, or had an opinion on. I've never felt they've been on the same side, or against the same side I've had on a given topic, because they just make the joke without judgement. And humor can be like that. It may not be enough for some people to enjoy, or maybe they will only find stuff which makes a statement as funny, but I just take it for what it is, and find humor in it based on my own perception. I think Tales from the Borderlands did this best with it's story, which had more agency with the player being part of the story, and it didn't take a stand on any given topic. Maybe the style of game allowed for a more direct humor allowing it to connect to the character, as opposed to the avatar being more a spectator to the world around them...which is basically what the regular games were....although The Pre-sequal did better in this regard. I can't speak for BL3 yet, but seems some journalist find the humor banal, while fans are either indifferent, or think it's fine. I know some will find it not that great, but I haven't heard any major complaints about it outside some articles which seem to want it to be more than it ever was.
The point of view is to collect lots of loot and to shoot stuff with cool guns, seriously what the actual F is up with all these hate on Borderlands 3 articles, you'd swear the game was a Sony exclusive with all this bullshit clickbait. Clearly slantmagazine is staffed by a bunch of snowflakes who hate fun.
Games amazing forget em
Yea I'm not understanding the hate for this game.
I remember when BL2 was being marketed before release, and right after release, and I was reading the articles and wondering what people really saw in the game. Didn't know much about it, and just saw it as another FPS, and at the time, thought it was an online only game, which didn't interest me. The graphics style I really liked, but I don't care for FPS, and don't play MP games. Everyone was all excited for every bit of news, and reviews were good, and all these articles were saying how it was so awesome. Fast forward, and now I've played BL2, and the TPS, and dabbled a bit in BL1, and I absolutely love it. It's not an online only game, game play is engaging and fun, the humor is light and the story doesn't take itself too seriously, but is good enough to be competent. It's not without it's flaws, but they're minor in the bigger picture. Haven't played BL3 except for maybe a couple hours now(finishing up BL2 plat). But, for the life of me, the things that seem to be complained about in the press were the things they lauded almost a decade ago. The juvenile humor was there in BL2. The light fun story was there in BL2. The game play was engaging in BL2, and seems like the new one improves on it without being different. The gaming press in general is nothing if not fickle, and its obvious at times like these that many journalists have political agendas attached to their reasoning when the only thing that's really changed in the past 8 years since BL2 came out, is that now it's cool to pretend one is enlightened by modern day sensibilities...which aren't even really that sensible. One can't just have fun with something and enjoy it for what it is, but have to find fault with something because these people are so deluded that they believe that culture or society as a whole has drastically changed in the past decade. It hasn't. For the most part, the only thing that's changed is that too many people are given attention for their rampant soap boxing when they don't really deserve it.
You deserve a thousand thumbs up for that last paragraph rain, you said it perfectly. "now it's cool to pretend one is enlightened by modern day sensibilities" Well said and not only blatantly apparent in gaming journalism but in journalism in general.
I think someone is angry because Gamestop was sold out on the collector's edition of Borderlands 3 and the game might be too hard for them to play. The game great I am enjoying it, it's fun to co-op with friends, I like the fact that you can travel to other planets. I also like the fact they added some of the Tales from the Borderlands characters in the game. If you don't like the game then hook up your Xbox 360 with the Kinect and play Sesame Street TV that game should be easier to play.
Pointless Slant Magazine again, they don't even like games, have no idea how they are actually allowed to review them. Move on
"Slant" Nothing there to see.
"but no aspect of Borderlands 3 is ever really saying anything of import" Why must it? And doesn't this fit the same description of the majority of games out there? Why must a game have something of import to say rather than just be entertaining and fun? --- To be honest, Aaron Riccio is a horrible reviewer and should not be handed these type of games. Look at his other reviews on other "violent" games: https://www.slantmagazine.c... https://www.slantmagazine.c... https://www.slantmagazine.c... https://www.slantmagazine.c... He pretty much just says the same thing and isn't reviewing the game but his expectations that the game "MUST SAY SOMETHING".
This recent expectation of games to "say something" or "do something" other than be fun and entertaining and sometimes profoundly sad and brilliant (What Remains of Edith Finch) is annoying and unnecessary. Yes, it's nice to have depth and detail but it's not necessary for a game to be fun, which is what's most important. Borderlands doesn't need to do anything else but be a new Borderlands game - that's all it needs to do and I'm pretty sure that's satisfactory for most fans of the series. To ask an established franchise to change beyond reason is only detrimental, imo, unless that's what a developer wants to do. Different strokes for different developers. I have certain expectations and assume certain things from certain developers based on their history, but if they wanna change it up that's cool too. But if they don't that's entirely fine.
Almost no game really says anything. Even the ones that do, more often than not, they do a horrible job of making whatever statement they want to make, and usually don't present the ideas in a way that are meaningful and fair. best stories that really make their point offer both sides, and leave it open to interpretation, and then can present the judgement from the characters point of view, which the viewer can then empathize with because they've connected to said character. Unless a story really focuses on a topic, I don't see the point why a story has to cast a judgement, as stories about the human side of things is what really drives a good story. I'm fine going to see a summer action James Bond flick without thinking it has to make a statement about corruption of government, nor do I feel it really has to make a statement about the nature of male sexism and antiquated treatment of women in general....something that was actually mentioned in Casino Royale, and luckily, avoided thereafter, although there were changes to the characters typical representation in years past throughout...which was needed for setting up the rest of the movies in that series.....but I digress. Some people are making a fuss about the lesbian kiss from TLOU2 trailer. Saying that ND will try to make some statement in the game with it. But realistically, has ND ever really taken a stand within their stories about any topical matter? They may do so on the back end, but it hasn't affected any of their games last gen or this one. So, I'm willing to see how they handle that before I cast judgement, but I do feel that it would be detrimental to their narrative style to try and make something like that out of it, and not focus more on the human aspects that we have come to know from Joel and Ellie. I'm hoping her relationship is just another relationship, used for either support, justification, or confrontation for what is so good about their stories. All that being said, I'm not big on media that tries to dictate a political agenda outright. Very few can do so effectively. Quentin Terrentino does this a lot, and while his movies are well done, it's done in such a forceful way to leave little room for interpretation by the viewer. I much prefer philosophical allegory which leaves things open for discussion and critical thought on behalf of the viewer. General themes which allow for application to one's own beliefs and challenges them in a productive way. I could probably count on one hand the number of games that do that in a meaningful way.
Why is Slant Authors always sounding like they be sniffing their own a***s from a wine glass?
Never could get into the series myself. I tried the psn free version and it just felt bland and empty with no real purpose. Maybe I was expecting a decent storyline coupled with good gunplay.
The gameplay itself is incredible, imo. The typical borderlands style ridiculous jokes and such is there as well. Not my cup of tea, but im there for the game.
"The game is boorish, infantile, and violent, and, in refusing to take any sort of consistent stand, is wildly off the mark." I disagree... I completely disagree with you...
I wonder what he rate Borderland 2, is it the same score or is it higher if it the later? Then this guy is a hypocrite
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