Microsoft's approach to Project xCloud mobile game streaming is unlike anything the rest of the market is doing, and that's perfect. No controller needed for Project xCloud.
I think I would still prefer to use the controller but It's cool that developers can customize the touch controller and have multiple controllers per game depending on what you're doing in the game.
Think it would depend on the game. Some would be fine with what I'll call mobile game controls. Others, not so much. The one demo they showed caused your fingers to take up a significant portion of the screen, which is often used for hud information in a lot of games
Let's be clear. Phones are why xCloud exists. Their GDC was all about phones. Phil Spencer laid it out plain as day. He isn't interested nearly as much in console gamers. He wants 2 billion gamers. That means phones. 2 billion consoles? Not happening.
He doesn’t care about what device you play on, just as long as you’re playing in the Xbox ecosystem. One day Sony fanboys will wake up and see past their walled off garden
> Pays for multiplayer access in Microsoft's Walled Garden > Attacks others for playing in a walled garden Fascinating
@yarbie: Except you don’t have to pay for multiplayer on anything but Xbox 360 & Xbox One. Xbox Live integration on other devices is completely free as we can already see with Minecraft. It’s also ironic that Sony is charging for multiplayer access on PS4 as well so... I don’t think you have much of a point or one at all. Nintendo also is for Nintendo Switch. The other issue is currently, Microsoft really doesn’t have a walled garden as it’s extending their network to outside platforms. This is evidenced by Xbox Live integration and features being available on PC, mobile, and Nintendo Switch. Doing so kind of kills the hole “walled garden” thing on Microsoft’s end. It actually does for Nintendo as well. With Sony rejecting these services from outside companies it’s pretty simple to see where the biggest wall exists.
Sloshed83 you seem drunk on Microsoft juice. Too much crack...........down 3? We play games and not corporations. Did you do a survey of 90 million gamers to decide we are concerned about x play. Ridiculous. Wish Microsoft and Sony well. Stop the hate kid
Why are you being downvoted for stating facts?
"One day Sony fanboys will wake up and see past their walled off garden." Playstation, the market leader, uses a business model that successful consoles have been using for decades to satisfy their customers while making money for the console manufacturer. No need to crap on that model because Xbox failed to sell as many consoles as they would like. It's sad that some are such Xbox loyalists that they will suddenly turn to crapping on things you used to be good with the moment its clear Xbox isn't able to compete in those areas.
"He doesn’t care about what device you play on, just as long as you’re playing in the Xbox ecosystem. " Agreed. Xbox ecosystem isn't about Xbox consoles anymore. "One day Sony fanboys will wake up and see past their walled off garden" lol.....where were all the complaints from Xbox gamers about their wall before now? Why are you not demanding that the wall within the Xbox console ecosystem be taken down? Why the hypocrisy? @TheUndertaker85 " Except you don’t have to pay for multiplayer on anything but Xbox 360 & Xbox One. Xbox Live integration on other devices is completely free as we can already see with Minecraft." lol...why do people seem to forget that Minecraft wasn't always owned by Microsoft? It had a massive presence on many platforms before MS bought it which they were not about to muck with. And how big of a sucker is Xbox 360 and Xbox One owners when they have the only devices in the "Xbox ecosystem" that are charged for online? "It’s also ironic that Sony is charging for multiplayer access on PS4 as well so... I don’t think you have much of a point or one at all." Actually, that is the point entirely. You guys are acting like suddenly you don't have a wall when your console fee for entry to multiplayer and closed store is the wall. Just because MS fell more in love with smartphone gamers than console gamers doesn't change the fact that those consoles are still being held to the same limitations that they have always had. Again, why are you not demanding the wall for Xbox console be taken down? You are just going to pretend it isn't still there?
Sonh keeps putting pretty flowers in the middle of their garden so we dont see the walls. One would have to have a problem with the garden to want to look for a way out. If were happy here, is that wrong? You guys are championing a service, and not even worried that the games aren't really being delivered. Ms has made you almost believe that because the games you want to play are available on more places, it somehow makes those games better. Oh, and xbox is still a walled garden. Last I checked your windows store games still aren't playable on xbox except a limited selection. Last I checked, your steam library isn't available on xbox.
shut the hell up..obviously hes not talking 2billion consoles, not even your favorite brand(Playstation) can pull that off!. if he wasn't interested in consoles they wouldn't be making several skus for next gen. Its about opening up the eco system and bringing Xbox games to many devices. Im gonna stick to consoles or build PC, a powerful one, not the fake shit most of yall say you have,hahahaha
no shit sherlock
lol.....tell that to those who downvoted then, Einstein.
you're getting downvoted because everyone knows he's not talking about 2 billion consoles. That's just logical. You didn't need to say that. I don't think the whole gaming industry COMBINED has reached 2 billion consoles yet, in it's entire existence.
"“For us, it’s all about how we reach 2 billion gamers,” said Spencer. “If you build the market around a couple hundred million people who are going to own a game console or a high-end gaming PC, then your business-model diversity can actually narrow because your customers are narrow. But when you think about reaching a customer with this content where their only compute device could be an Android phone, you think about, well, what are all the ways that person pays for content if they do at all today?” I guess you responded "no shit sherlock" to Phil Spencer as well, huh? And I got downvoted because people don't like this idea that the Xbox console is becoming more and more irrelevant. I don't blame them.
@Razzer, Sure, you can say the xbox brand is becoming more relevant while consoles (will soon) become less relevant. That's just the way technology is going through. The Xbox brand and service can grow beyond consoles which is MS goal. Opening the pool to many more gamers is good for the industry as a whole, not just MS.
The touch controls is what separates them from the rest. No controller needed. The option to just pull out your phone or tablet and continue playing on your spare time is killer.
But remote play has onscreen touch controllers
So you understand the concept then...great. Remote Play, however, is NOT a competitor to xCloud or Stadia.
Yes however the touch options of Project xCloud seem to promise more versatility and adaptability compared to what the PS4 Remote Play app is doing currently. Not to mention we know Project xCloud will support controllers from the start, something that can not be said for Remote Play. Xperia devices currently are the only mobile devices offering Remote Play controller support. Other mobile devices require both a jailbreak and third party software to use a PS4 controller.
Not sure about remote play as I've never used it but the ps4 controller connects to my wifes p20 pro and my galaxy s10 plus as a bluetooth controller no problem, no jailbreak or 3rd party app needed. I guess to run the app you would need to jailbreak unless on an xperia phone, hopefully they open it up to allow all phones to run the app, depends on demand I suppose.
I can't think of any Xbox game, other than 2d ones, that I would enjoy playing on a damn touch screen. None of those games are created for touch controls, it's like playing Halo with a potato.
O cool...I cant even run youtube or music on my verizon network when im traveling. How am i gonna run xbox games properly.
thats what im saying. i like the idea, but wtf is this ONE BAR crap im frequently dealing with in 2019. this is going to eat up massive data. im suppose to have unlimited but dont kid yourself, they slow you down when youve eaten too much of their data.
"Unlimited" usually has a "fair use" policy so they can cut your speeds when they think you're using too much.
yeah i though that was the case. 5 songs on youtube later and video loading slows down tremendously. options are good but i need to see this inaction b4 i buy into it. so far im not hopeful.
Yeah, seems pretty pointless tbh.
If you can't even run youtube or stream a song on your wifi, this cloud option is definitely not for you. Are you not able to even play games online?
Sponsored positive news. And now they even pay out sponsored social accounts to post positive replies. Just because there are too many fake positive news and fake positive comments. That's not how popularity works and that doesn't guarantee xbox streaming and google streaming to NOT ultimately fail when launched. lol
it sure does get the investors investing though if thats the case.
Where are the sponsored social media posts and the fake positive news? Could it be possible that people could actually be interested in this technology? Or is my opinion "sponsored" because you don't share it?
You know what's even better than touch controls? F*cking anything else.
Yet billions of billions of people use touch EVERYDAY on their phone or tablet to control their games and apps with no issues. Sure, a controller is preferred, but if you don't have one on you while out and about, one could take comfort knowing they can still have a way of playing their games. It beats not being able to play at all unless you have a controller...
Or you could play games on a console and it even comes with a controller
@jznrpg But that would defeat the whole purpose of gaming on your phone or tablet haha. The idea here is that gamers can CONTINUE to play their games even when AWAY from their consoles. Heck, other gamers won't even have a console at all haha. Did you not hear Google's motto...it's not about boxes anymore for them. They are providing ways for gamers to access these games away from, or in absence of a console. You say: "Yeah real cool. Play games on my phone . No thanks" That's cool and all, as its your choice...but all I see is people playing games on their tablet or phone literally everyday, all day. Clearly THOSE PEOPLE have no issue with it...these services are designed to speak to those peoples. Lastly, Switch is one of the hottest gadgets out right now. Millions of gamers bought the device to be able to takes their games WITH THEM on the go...to play Zelda on the bus, train, school, work...a phone or tablet that could play AAA games in the same way is exciting.
Timotim You can't be serious about using touch controls for AAA games surely? I couldn't think of anything more horrendous.
You're just a blind cheerleader. No one is going to use touch controls. These games aren't Candy Crush.
Yeah, fuck touch controls that are in cars, radios, my fricking washer and dryer have them, phones, tablets, ATMs and gas pumps, microwaves, dualshock 4 controllers, just about anything you can think of. Let's get rid of those. Put joysticks on them instead.
It's a mystery why PC gamers still prefer mouse & keyboard over these amazing touch controls, isn't it?
The worst thing about touch controls is having screen space taken up by your fingers, it blocks your view in so many apps
Yeah real cool. Play games on my phone . No thanks
Any touch controls on screen is a waste of time because you are losing the ability to see the full screen.
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