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Xbox Project xCloud's coolest thing is its approach to phones

Microsoft's approach to Project xCloud mobile game streaming is unlike anything the rest of the market is doing, and that's perfect. No controller needed for Project xCloud.

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ThinkThink2288d ago

I think I would still prefer to use the controller but It's cool that developers can customize the touch controller and have multiple controllers per game depending on what you're doing in the game.

rainslacker2287d ago

Think it would depend on the game. Some would be fine with what I'll call mobile game controls. Others, not so much. The one demo they showed caused your fingers to take up a significant portion of the screen, which is often used for hud information in a lot of games

Razzer2288d ago (Edited 2288d ago )

Let's be clear. Phones are why xCloud exists. Their GDC was all about phones. Phil Spencer laid it out plain as day. He isn't interested nearly as much in console gamers. He wants 2 billion gamers. That means phones. 2 billion consoles? Not happening.

SLiSH832288d ago

He doesn’t care about what device you play on, just as long as you’re playing in the Xbox ecosystem.
One day Sony fanboys will wake up and see past their walled off garden

yarbie10002288d ago

> Pays for multiplayer access in Microsoft's Walled Garden
> Attacks others for playing in a walled garden

Fascinating

TheUndertaker852288d ago (Edited 2288d ago )

@yarbie: Except you don’t have to pay for multiplayer on anything but Xbox 360 & Xbox One. Xbox Live integration on other devices is completely free as we can already see with Minecraft.

It’s also ironic that Sony is charging for multiplayer access on PS4 as well so... I don’t think you have much of a point or one at all. Nintendo also is for Nintendo Switch.

The other issue is currently, Microsoft really doesn’t have a walled garden as it’s extending their network to outside platforms. This is evidenced by Xbox Live integration and features being available on PC, mobile, and Nintendo Switch. Doing so kind of kills the hole “walled garden” thing on Microsoft’s end. It actually does for Nintendo as well. With Sony rejecting these services from outside companies it’s pretty simple to see where the biggest wall exists.

peterdawa2288d ago

Sloshed83 you seem drunk on Microsoft juice. Too much crack...........down 3? We play games and not corporations. Did you do a survey of 90 million gamers to decide we are concerned about x play. Ridiculous. Wish Microsoft and Sony well. Stop the hate kid

CaptainCook2288d ago

Why are you being downvoted for stating facts?

RauLeCreuset2287d ago

"One day Sony fanboys will wake up and see past their walled off garden."

Playstation, the market leader, uses a business model that successful consoles have been using for decades to satisfy their customers while making money for the console manufacturer. No need to crap on that model because Xbox failed to sell as many consoles as they would like. It's sad that some are such Xbox loyalists that they will suddenly turn to crapping on things you used to be good with the moment its clear Xbox isn't able to compete in those areas.

Razzer2287d ago

"He doesn’t care about what device you play on, just as long as you’re playing in the Xbox ecosystem. "

Agreed. Xbox ecosystem isn't about Xbox consoles anymore.

"One day Sony fanboys will wake up and see past their walled off garden"

lol.....where were all the complaints from Xbox gamers about their wall before now? Why are you not demanding that the wall within the Xbox console ecosystem be taken down? Why the hypocrisy?

@TheUndertaker85
" Except you don’t have to pay for multiplayer on anything but Xbox 360 & Xbox One. Xbox Live integration on other devices is completely free as we can already see with Minecraft."

lol...why do people seem to forget that Minecraft wasn't always owned by Microsoft? It had a massive presence on many platforms before MS bought it which they were not about to muck with. And how big of a sucker is Xbox 360 and Xbox One owners when they have the only devices in the "Xbox ecosystem" that are charged for online?

"It’s also ironic that Sony is charging for multiplayer access on PS4 as well so... I don’t think you have much of a point or one at all."

Actually, that is the point entirely. You guys are acting like suddenly you don't have a wall when your console fee for entry to multiplayer and closed store is the wall. Just because MS fell more in love with smartphone gamers than console gamers doesn't change the fact that those consoles are still being held to the same limitations that they have always had. Again, why are you not demanding the wall for Xbox console be taken down? You are just going to pretend it isn't still there?

rainslacker2287d ago (Edited 2287d ago )

Sonh keeps putting pretty flowers in the middle of their garden so we dont see the walls.

One would have to have a problem with the garden to want to look for a way out. If were happy here, is that wrong? You guys are championing a service, and not even worried that the games aren't really being delivered. Ms has made you almost believe that because the games you want to play are available on more places, it somehow makes those games better.

Oh, and xbox is still a walled garden. Last I checked your windows store games still aren't playable on xbox except a limited selection. Last I checked, your steam library isn't available on xbox.

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BizarroUltraman2288d ago

shut the hell up..obviously hes not talking 2billion consoles, not even your favorite brand(Playstation) can pull that off!. if he wasn't interested in consoles they wouldn't be making several skus for next gen. Its about opening up the eco system and bringing Xbox games to many devices. Im gonna stick to consoles or build PC, a powerful one, not the fake shit most of yall say you have,hahahaha

Razzer2287d ago

lol.....tell that to those who downvoted then, Einstein.

Zeref2287d ago (Edited 2287d ago )

you're getting downvoted because everyone knows he's not talking about 2 billion consoles.

That's just logical. You didn't need to say that.
I don't think the whole gaming industry COMBINED has reached 2 billion consoles yet, in it's entire existence.

Razzer2287d ago (Edited 2287d ago )

"“For us, it’s all about how we reach 2 billion gamers,” said Spencer. “If you build the market around a couple hundred million people who are going to own a game console or a high-end gaming PC, then your business-model diversity can actually narrow because your customers are narrow. But when you think about reaching a customer with this content where their only compute device could be an Android phone, you think about, well, what are all the ways that person pays for content if they do at all today?”

I guess you responded "no shit sherlock" to Phil Spencer as well, huh? And I got downvoted because people don't like this idea that the Xbox console is becoming more and more irrelevant. I don't blame them.

ThinkThink2287d ago

@Razzer,

Sure, you can say the xbox brand is becoming more relevant while consoles (will soon) become less relevant. That's just the way technology is going through. The Xbox brand and service can grow beyond consoles which is MS goal. Opening the pool to many more gamers is good for the industry as a whole, not just MS.

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timotim2288d ago

The touch controls is what separates them from the rest. No controller needed. The option to just pull out your phone or tablet and continue playing on your spare time is killer.

akurtz2288d ago

But remote play has onscreen touch controllers

timotim2288d ago

So you understand the concept then...great. Remote Play, however, is NOT a competitor to xCloud or Stadia.

TheUndertaker852288d ago (Edited 2288d ago )

Yes however the touch options of Project xCloud seem to promise more versatility and adaptability compared to what the PS4 Remote Play app is doing currently. Not to mention we know Project xCloud will support controllers from the start, something that can not be said for Remote Play.

Xperia devices currently are the only mobile devices offering Remote Play controller support. Other mobile devices require both a jailbreak and third party software to use a PS4 controller.

IRetrouk2288d ago (Edited 2288d ago )

Not sure about remote play as I've never used it but the ps4 controller connects to my wifes p20 pro and my galaxy s10 plus as a bluetooth controller no problem, no jailbreak or 3rd party app needed. I guess to run the app you would need to jailbreak unless on an xperia phone, hopefully they open it up to allow all phones to run the app, depends on demand I suppose.

spicelicka2287d ago

I can't think of any Xbox game, other than 2d ones, that I would enjoy playing on a damn touch screen. None of those games are created for touch controls, it's like playing Halo with a potato.

Italiano12345672288d ago

O cool...I cant even run youtube or music on my verizon network when im traveling. How am i gonna run xbox games properly.

PoSTedUP2288d ago

thats what im saying. i like the idea, but wtf is this ONE BAR crap im frequently dealing with in 2019. this is going to eat up massive data. im suppose to have unlimited but dont kid yourself, they slow you down when youve eaten too much of their data.

Gamingsince19812288d ago

"Unlimited" usually has a "fair use" policy so they can cut your speeds when they think you're using too much.

PoSTedUP2288d ago

yeah i though that was the case. 5 songs on youtube later and video loading slows down tremendously. options are good but i need to see this inaction b4 i buy into it. so far im not hopeful.

bluefox7552287d ago

Yeah, seems pretty pointless tbh.

ThinkThink2287d ago

If you can't even run youtube or stream a song on your wifi, this cloud option is definitely not for you. Are you not able to even play games online?

jairusmonillas2288d ago (Edited 2288d ago )

Sponsored positive news.
And now they even pay out sponsored social accounts to post positive replies.
Just because there are too many fake positive news and fake positive comments. That's not how popularity works and that doesn't guarantee xbox streaming and google streaming to NOT ultimately fail when launched. lol

PoSTedUP2288d ago

it sure does get the investors investing though if thats the case.

ThinkThink2287d ago

Where are the sponsored social media posts and the fake positive news? Could it be possible that people could actually be interested in this technology? Or is my opinion "sponsored" because you don't share it?

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After years of waiting, Xbox Cloud Gaming's "Stream Your Own Game" feature is going live today.

Xbox Cloud Gaming victory: Finally, after years of waiting, you can now play (some of) your Xbox games on Xbox Cloud Gaming.

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darthv72217d ago

Oh what timing... now that Portal is offering cloud streaming as well.

OtterX215d ago (Edited 215d ago )

Yea, it's incredible having titles available in handheld streaming format without having to have a console on. This is even better for traveling. I was messing around w it for the first time this morning and the quality was so good, I forgot at times that I was actually streaming. (1gbs) any minor imperfections aren't amplified like they would be on a big screen tv.

I guess XBox users can still do it if they have a Steam Deck, ROG etc, so nobody is left out. Streaming like this is best for handheld play IMO.

crazyCoconuts215d ago

I've tried streaming from various hotel chains while traveling. Hotel WiFi in general sucks and that makes streaming untenable

OtterX215d ago

@crazyCoconuts I guess it depends on your traveling style. I usually stay in privately owned hostels across our country who tend to invest more in good internet. I always check with them before I book.

OtterX214d ago

I just tested the Portal from our new home we're moving into, a 2 hour drive away and in the rural countryside where we have to run Starlink. No fibre available here, but getting 357 mbs, and I'm streaming my PS5 from our 1gbs at our old home. It's streaming perfectly, so not sure what you're going on about @crazycoconuts.

Neonridr215d ago

*for select titles, for premium members only..

Vits215d ago

What bothers me about this new Xbox offering is that you still need a Game Pass Ultimate subscription to play. It’s not like Stadia, where you could buy the game and play it without needing a subscription, which was only for extra features. So, who is this really meant for?

To use the service, you’d need to buy the game and keep paying for Game Pass Ultimate. That’s asking a lot, especially since Xbox console owners, who are probably the main audience for this, would likely prefer to just download the game and play it directly on their consoles. There’s a small case to be made for Xbox owners who travel often, but how big could that group really be?

As for Sony, their approach to streaming is also strange. They limit how games can be streamed locally. For example, the mobile app allows screen controls but doesn’t support most physical controllers, only the DualSense and, for some games, the DS4. Their reasoning seems to be that these controllers are needed for the proper features—yet the app lets you play with screen controls, and there’s even a third-party app that works with any controller.

Then there’s the Portal, which is basically a DualSense with a screen and an internet connection. But it’s only now getting cloud streaming, even though there’s no technical reason it couldn’t have had this from the start.

Bathyj215d ago

I was going to ask is this not what Portal is doing?

Are you telling me after all these years of bathering about cloud streaming you couldn't play your own games? WTactualF?

darthv72215d ago (Edited 215d ago )

playing your own games via streaming required the console (ala remote play). Now you can stream games you own without the need for the console to be on.

the xcloud beta was only for gamepass ultimate games and now you can stream ones you own regardless if they are in GPU or not.

Knushwood Butt215d ago

Power of da cloud, just a few years late.

redrum06215d ago

Still, that's for the Playstation Plus Premium/Extra library. This is for streaming games you own, which would've been nice to have on PS as well.

Kyizen215d ago

Different. Portal is catching up to Xbox Cloud Streaming but Xbox is catching up to Portal remote play feature it had at launch

darthv72215d ago

XB has always been able to stream games you own from the console (ala remote play).
The xcloud side let you stream without the console but only games in game pass.
NOW it is letting you stream games you own through xcloud without them needing to be in game pass.

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MaximusPrime_215d ago

Thanks goodness for PS Portal. I don't even own Xbox

Giodel215d ago

omg I AM SO SO SO SOSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO tired of this sites PS fanatism. This is an XBOX post for something XBOX does why do you have to go and mention portal? WHY tell me WHY?

VersusDMC215d ago

All the Fck horizon, Concord, PS5 pro articles and comments really make it a ps fanatic site...are you delusional?

Redgrave215d ago

Such is the nature of any gaming related website. It is inevitable. Unavoidable.

Some do it out of passion, some out of self amusement, and some just wish to sow pointless discourse.

Xbox posts will have Playstation comments and vice versa. Here, there, everywhere.

Nooderus215d ago

VersusDMC Yes i think most of the people that frequent this site have a positive sony bias.

Rockstar215d ago

Alright, calm down! It's just the Internet

redrum06215d ago

I know, N4G is known to be a PS centric fanboy site, it's ridiculous. Instead of constantly downplaying Xbox in whatever they do, maybe just be happy for the other. Competition is a good thing to have.

Michiel1989215d ago

@nooderus I honetly think there's nothing wrong with bias, but it really does seem that critical thinking goes out the window because of it, that part I just don't understand. Wouldn't people want the company/product or what have you to do the best they can instead of accepting everything they shovel towards you because you like them?

Gamingsince1981215d ago

Every site is playstation biased, because every one likes playstation and xbox is dead, what do you expect. That's like saying "this food site has a biased towards good food but everyone hates eating poo, it's so unfair to poo eaters"

cooperdnizzle215d ago

Well if you were on this site like 15 years ago you would know, that it was 99% Xbox fans and if you were Sony fans you had to fight tooth and nail to just say a game was good.

Second people like PS now days because it is by far the better platform.

Nacho_Z215d ago

Only seems that way ("PS fanatism") because Sony is currently on top. Naturally there will be more positive articles and comments about the front runner.

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GotGame818215d ago (Edited 215d ago )

Sure, you can't leave the house with it, and play. Wii U did that YEARS ago right out of the box. You can cloud play, literally anywhere.

crazyCoconuts215d ago

Are you sure your Portal... Isn't an Xbox??

TheEroica215d ago

"thank goodness" 😂 what a shill.... The portal is a joke... One that only Sony could get away with on its soft brained fan base.

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neomahi215d ago

I really don't think Nintendo and PlayStation need to get caught up in this. Streaming isn't the future, yet and there's no rush to get into that market. If Nintendo is still selling a mass number of Nintendo Switch consoles, what does that tell you? It tells you Xbox is trying to stay relevant and bring everyone along with them, but, like PlayStation's own fans have been telling PlayStation "THATS NOT WHAT WE WANT" and PlayStation is learning the hard way they're not listening to their consumers like they were with the PS3 and PS5. But, this isn't what people want yet. Nintendos dabbling in it and PlayStation has been doing it since they acquired Gaikai, but it's never stuck. People that have been streaming movies and ditching it and collecting physical media again, it's slowly going back in that direction and they'll tell their gaming brethren not to fall for it. Theyre getting physical media and loading it on to their own servers to run on home servers within their walls THEY control, not the corporations that sell them a license, not a product they pay for and own. Imagine buying cloths or your house that can be repossessed whenever Nike, DC, Vans, or Reebok want to take back because it goes out of style when they say so.

Streaming may be the future but it's the distant future. Internet service providers can't even sustain that. Data caps still exist and internet isn't that fast as it's most affordable prices. You're attacking a REALLY niche market that's going to be received as well as the PS5 Pro. Xbox killed their brand with the Xbox One that wanted to integrate streaming into their games to further try and sell and incentivise Xbox Live and we saw that went. Streaming could very well cause the next gaming crash, is how I see it. The rest of the tech world isn't ready for that, especially during yet another trying economy

cooperdnizzle215d ago

Hey dude they can take your house back. It’s called property tax. Paying for something you already own.

But I agree, I have already had digital games taken from me. Sucks

jznrpg215d ago (Edited 215d ago )

More options are good but streaming as a whole has a lot of issues. I will always prefer dedicated hardware. I’m bring my PS with me when I travel. Internet is not good traveling

darthv72215d ago (Edited 215d ago )

A PS5 (even slim) does not make for a good travel companion. Meaning on the go, not in a closed environment like a hotel room, but on a plane or a train or an automobile... this is what works in all of those situations: https://images.purexbox.com...

Its nice an compact but obviously still bigger than a handheld. If you want that 'console' experience that is.

Rashers215d ago

That still requires power leads for both the console and screen.

127maXimus215d ago

Yeah but you would still have to buy them for Xbox.

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With Owned Xbox Games Finally Playable via the Cloud - the Promise of Stadia Returns

After some false starts over the past 24 hours, playing your owned games on Xbox Cloud Gaming is live. The cloud console officially returns! Is it Stadia's promise finally fulfilled?

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anast217d ago

I told you all. Here is comes.

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Eonjay216d ago

Playstation was already doing this with Premium. A lot of the games I own are streamavle on PS5. I assume they will eventually add access to the Portal.

NotoriousWhiz216d ago

False. Only games Playstation allows you to stream are those available on PSN premium regardless of whether or not you own them.

What Microsoft is beginning to do is enable streaming of some titles even though they aren't part of game pass (as long as they are owned by the user)

Eonjay215d ago

It's not false. I bought Final Fantasy Rebirth on PSN and I can still stream it to my PS5 even though it's not part of Plus. Same with many many other titles. PlayStation has allowed this since they revamped their streaming service like a tear ago. This will eventually come to Portal streaming during the beta I am sure.

gold_drake217d ago

yeh, we all saw what happened to it.

peppeaccardo216d ago

Whoever decided that gaming streaming was actually a thing to charge customers for is a F-ing genius .... even playstation portal lags and is only few feet away !from the PS5! Simply Why ? ... Why ?

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Coming to Game Pass: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6, StarCraft & StarCraft II, and More

Happy spooky season to those who celebrate! We have a collection of scary games for you to enjoy with Game Pass, while hiding under the blankets (or maybe that’s just how I play). And if you want to do something slightly less scary, we have a whole list of games for you to start pre-installing including more day one additions like Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 and more! Let’s get to the games.

• South Park: The Fractured but Whole (Cloud, Console, and PC) – October 16
• Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 (Cloud, Console, and PC) – October 25
• Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III (Cloud) – October 25
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• Call of Duty: Warzone (Cloud) – October 25
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• Ashen (Cloud, Console, and PC) – October 29
• Dead Island 2 (PC) – October 31
• StarCraft: Remastered (PC) – November 5
• StarCraft II: Campaign Collection (PC) – November 5

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crazyCoconuts253d ago

Let the COD on GamePass experiment begin!
I would think their quarterly revenue will take a hit compared to a year ago, but will maybe make up for it throughout the year as the monthly GP subs keep coming in

pwnmaster3000253d ago

Was up with call of duty man?
I downloaded cod on gamepass and for some reason I cannot access the game.

darthv72253d ago

just curious what version? There are some that you can pre-load, but they wont work until their release date later this month.

pwnmaster3000253d ago

I have to redownload it again for the 3rd time to check.
I ended up just deleting it to make room for other games after the second time.

It was on Xbox game pass, I didn’t know there was other versions. I just downloaded everything, but sadly I couldn’t even access the game. Maybe 3rd time the charm. I’ll download it again.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH253d ago

It’s not out yet man unless you’re talking about MW3.

pwnmaster3000253d ago

I’m talking about mw3. For some reason I could not get it to work.

just_looken253d ago

On xbox there is the last gen/current gen versions pc though you could also get a xbox version.

When that new forza first came out for one day they had the xbox version on the pc store i was like ? what it was odd.

On xbox you can easily download the one version of a game instead of the series version so you run into issues on your series console.

pwnmaster3000252d ago

Because a game won’t run after I download it??
Man your kids must hate your @ss if that’s how you think.

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dveio253d ago

It's going to be very interesting to follow up on how the new entry of CoD will perform at the box office, player numbers and distribution of Xbox, PC and PS versions this year.

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DivineHand125253d ago

I got excited thinking they ported StarCraft to consoles but it's just the PC version. Also, I thought Starcraft 2 was already free to play.

TheColbertinator253d ago

I'm certain it is going to be the Campaign Collection version.

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