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Devil May Cry 5 – what Ninja Theory did better than Capcom

Capcom's Devil May Cry 5 is the series' newest shiny jewel, but Ninja Theory's black sheep did a couple things better.

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Vandamme21101d ago

I can’t really say anything about this yet because I haven’t started dmc5 yet. I been to busy playing resident evil 2 remake. I love dmc devil may cry.

DaDrunkenJester101d ago

Besides the cringe dialogue, I thoroughly enjoyed DmC.

Vits101d ago

It was a pretty good game to be honest, the combo system worked well and gave it some deph (though I can see why a couple of people didn't like it). That said, as a "Devil May Cry" it just wans't what the fans wanted.

DaDrunkenJester101d ago

I'm not saying it's perfect or better than any of the numbered games, but it was still very enjoyable and in no way deserves the hate it gets from the hardcore fans.

Unspoken101d ago

I feel the dialogue was terrible just like most dubbed anime where the translators do a piss poor job picking the correct phrases and then in any CGI scene, attempt to match mouth movement.

meka2611100d ago

Yea but the dialog is cringe in the main series as well, so not sure why you say DmC had cringe. I mean how about "yo yo yo, check this out" good I hate Nico lol.

DaDrunkenJester100d ago

It's cringe regardless if the others were as well. I didn't say it's MORE cringe.

Repjaws101d ago

Combat, story, bosses. Ninja Theory did better than Devil may cry 5. The pacing in Devil may cry 5 is so bad. The story is all over the place. Nothing gets explained.

thatguyhayat101d ago

DmC was not the real Devil may cry. That game was too easy. I did enjoy it though. It should have been called something else

Repjaws101d ago

Fair enough. I think where DMC 5 lost me when it comes to combat is how they switched from characters even mid chapter and it never allowed you to really get into the groove with one character. Also kept introducing new weapons on Dante.

Lord_Sloth101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

@Repjaws Not once in DMC5 do they change your character mid mission at all.

Unspoken101d ago

Combat system is terrible. I was hoping for Ninja Gaiden like combo system and was given the simplified, only need to push one button butchered version.

Guess they decided to implement it to keep the pacing up with the story. More of an interactive anime then a game. But at least it wasn't quick time events.

hulk_bash1987101d ago

Combat = Disagree, DMC5 > DmC
Story = Personal Preference
Bosses = Cant even remember any note worthy ones from DmC

DMC5 is a fun, fastpaced and glorious return to form for the series. And I loved every minute of it. DmC was an enjoyable but ultimately forgetful experience. IMO

Segata101d ago

The only boss people ever refer to that they liked in DmC is the Raptor Fox news guy...whos mechanics were a worse version of Trickster from DMC3.

Dark_Knightmare2101d ago

Really there was the demon hunter in the first level and the news boss in raptor towers which is more inventive than any boss from dmc 5. Story is personal preference but Dmc was the first devil may cry game that had a story worth a damn imo. Dmc also has way better level design and traversal than Dmc 5. I know the hardcore DMC 5 fanboys are going to downvote because they love to act like Dmc is so horrible and killed their puppy but there’s a reason Itsuno really likes Dmc and why 5 took quite a bit of things from Dmc

Segata101d ago

Dark_Knightmare2

According to the VA for Dante. Itsuno was ready to quit Capcom if they made DmC2 over letting him make his own game with DMC5. Says it all really.

TheOptimist101d ago

Either obvious troll, or tried playing one of DMC 1-4 and couldn't get into it.

I can't see a person who has played 1-4 preferring DmC's combat, story and bosses over 5. I can agree that level design of DmC is better.

Dark_Knightmare2101d ago

Considering 1-4 stories were horrible what’s so hard to understand about people preferring Dmc story.

FACTUAL evidence101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

@Dark_Knightmare2
Ugh, didn’t want to say this but you’re trolling.........Dmc story is basically DMC3s and DMC1’s story together, but worse. So how can’t a fan of DmcNinjatheory can’t be a fan of 1-4?

Repjaws101d ago

Are you saying I couldn't get into any of the earlier games hence why I'm critical of the newer one? Out of some sort of frustration because I couldn't get into them? Or that I'm an obvious troll. I don't know what kind of rock you live under but people have different opinions. I see Devil May Cry 5 getting flawless reviews and people are loving it. That's great. They may have found something to like in the game that didn't pertain to my interests when I look at a game, fair enough. If I can admit that without putting them in two negative camps I'm sure you can be civil enough to not throw everything I said out a window and call me an obvious troll or saying I tried playing the previous games and couldn't get into them. I have played Dmc 3,4,5 and DmC.

FACTUAL evidence101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

@Repjaws

You trippin’ trippin. The dialouge, combat, and bosses didn’t even rival DMC3. 5 is definitely the best game since DMC4 hands down. The pacing in DMC5 was damned good, and the story was simply
followable even if you didn’t play previous DMC games.

It gets even better once you find out the truth later on. dmcNinjatheory’s story was just a sorry rehash of 3 but worse. Imo the only respectable aspect of the game was the combat, and it still didn’t rival DMC4’s combat.

Not to mention dmcNinjatheory had terrible level design choices. Seems like it had an idenity crisis, didn’t know if it was a platformer or hack n slash. I just can’t take anyone serious about dmc being better than DMC5. Hey, all and all, I’ll let you have your opinion since liking things are subjective. *shrugs*

DaDrunkenJester101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

I was with you until you said DmC has bad level design. That's simply false.

Repjaws101d ago

Did we play the same game? The game never explained why The big devil dude (Vergil's other half can't recall his fake name) kept Lady and Trish alive. I know he turned them into bosses but couldn't he do that without them? And if not then why? How did the Yamato seprate Vergil to make V and the big Devil dude? Just because plot? Why didn't Dante's sword do that? Just because plot? I recall V saying that the big Plant that stemmed from hell was so big because a lot of blood was sacrificed to it. So I'm guessing a lot of humans died because of Vergil. Does that ever get addressed? No it doesn't. Look the story in DMC 5 is just a backdrop for one note characters to beat shit up in, let's not beat around the bush. The pacing is terrible because it just cuts away from each character after every chapter even during mid chapters and no one character ever gets fully flushed out.

And to your point of DmC being a platformer? Like, are you serious? You mistook the level transitions for it being a platformer? Or is that just you going on a hyperbole?

":I just can’t take anyone serious about dmc being better than DMC5" translation: I can't take someone with a different opinion towards a game I like seriously. Okay dude.

FACTUAL evidence101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

@Repjaws
Replay the game without skipping the cutscenes. You will see why Urizen kept the two alive. Lol.

FACTUAL evidence101d ago

Lol I can’t right now. Repjaws we already know of the properties between the 2 blades. They go over it too. Oh btw, go to the main menu and you have an option to see the story of DMC.

Repjaws101d ago

I didn't skip the cutscenes? And the game never explains where he kept both of them alive? To turn them into bosses? Why? How does that work? Why couldn't he do that with other people why only them? I did watch the video on the main menu it did nothing to explain as to why the Yamato separated Vergil into Urizen and V other than for plot reasons, same thing with Dante.

If I did manage to skip over those two essential parts of the story, please do tell me why they do those things. And don't just give me the "Because plot". At that point it just becomes lazy writing.

GameBoyColor101d ago

@repjaws **SPOILERS**

Urizen took lady and trish to add to his power as they roam the world as bosses.

The yamato can seperate dimensions. So stabbing yourself will seperate demon from human. Creating the powerful true demon Urizen and fragile human being V.

Likewise stabbing yourself with rebellion will fuse human and demon, allowing dante to absorb Sparda and awaken the sin devil trigger. This was all explained in cutscenes dude. You just weren't paying attention or something

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just-joe101d ago

A combat so great they had to revert back to the old system in the HD edition because it was so stupidly simple. And let's not forget that story original to anyone who's never seen The Matrix or They Live.

Segata101d ago

It still wasn't the old combat. They just improved what DmC combat was but still is a far cry from DMC4 even let alone DMC5.

jeremyj2913100d ago

Thank you! Not to mention DmC's copy and paste story is spoon fed with no reason to ever use your brain. And there are literally cutscenes that look incomplete with no detail at all.

TheOptimist101d ago

Based on your statement having played 3 and 4, if you are saying DmC did combat better than 5, you are also implying that DmC did combat better than 3 and 4, because we all know, DMC5's combat is just an extension of 4 with different weapons. Same goes with story, DMC5 may not be as good as 3, but it definitely is better than 4 and feels like a closure to 3 and 1's story. Bosses? Really? Apart from Vergil, I didn't like any boss in tDmC, all involved platforming and the boss sat at one place. I loved Angelo Cavaliere, V's Chartiot boss, Vergil, Cerberus from DMC5. Let's say bosses are subjective.

I still find you saying DMC5's combat and story being worse than DmC is full of oxymorons.

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tinchotin101d ago

It was better at pissing off the fan base, and destroying Dante's and Vergil's characters.

Dark_Knightmare2101d ago

How did it destroy their characters?

FACTUAL evidence101d ago

Here’s one, they made dante a sex crazed asshole. He wasn’t like that in any of the games. Not even young dante was like that. The way they had dante is like if you made crash bandicoot intelligent.

Shinox101d ago

Are you for real asking this dumbass question

Dark_Knightmare2101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

@factual evidence lol are you serious Dante never acted sex crazed in the game unless you’re talking about the opening montage where he’s in nightclub for all of like 10 seconds

tinchotin101d ago

In DmC Vergil has no honor, uses a sniper rifle to abort a baby demon, wants to rule the world.

Segata101d ago

Just look at the first meeting with Dante & Vergil in DMC3. Dante tells Vergil this party sucks. Vergil says in a classy way he's sorry and didn't have time for preparations. Dante is mouthy in a goofball way and Vergil plays along in a more classy way. It makes them great. DmC...DER I GOT A BIGGER DICK!....how would he even know? If you look at late 90s and early 2000s game characters they were often edgy and dark. Kamiya set out to make a character who was cool who didn't smoke drink or swear. DmC Donte..drinks swears and in the initial trailer smokes during a time every major action game of the era was that. Edgy and dark. He no longer stood above. He became just another edgelord. Another brick in the wall.

marcosexymango101d ago

Listen up BBQ fans, this year we’re only grilling veggies. You fanboys better accept that haha, mate, almost no fan liked it. It’s good to like different things but the paying majority has spoken :)

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Dark_Knightmare2101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

That’s because this was supposed to be a younger and more inexperienced Vergil not to mention him doing that isn’t some out of character thing. He has done way worse things throughout the series and for entirely selfish reasons at that

Redrex7000101d ago

one thing about vergil in Dmc
was that he was kind of useless
he did nothing for most of the story then u
had to save him during last mundus fight
then all of a sudden he became the final fight
from a story stand point were we really suppose to
believe he can stand toe to toe with dante
when in the story he needed dante to pretty much
do everything for him

MoshA101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

Thank God DmC got higher ratings than DMC3 and 4. Especially 4. Absolute garbage. I only respect DMC1 because it inspired successors like Bayonetta and God of War with superior gameplay and story.

TGGJustin101d ago

It got about the same score as DMC4 and DMC3 actually was higher than DmC with an 87. Both are far better than the trash Ninja Theory put out.

Dark_Knightmare2101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

Lol 4 is nowhere near as good as Dmc except it’s combat which is better. Man the hate hardcore DMC fanboys have for this game borders on obsessive it’s truly sad

MoshA101d ago

DMC3 got 84 on PS2. Thank God DMC5 took obvious inspiration from DmC. The franchise was just pure cringe until now.

VileAndVicious101d ago

4 was not a good game. Sure combat could be fun but people essentially paid $60 for game with a nonsensical story and back tracking halfway through.

xXxSeTTriPxXx101d ago

Dmc 3 absolute garbage?WAIT?WHAT?

The game that redefined a genre garbage lmfao.

Shinox101d ago

"DMC3 .. GARBAGE"
GTFO of gaming .

trooper_101d ago

DMC 3 wasn’t garbage. Get out with that crap.

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