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Valve Updates Steam Review Policy to Defuse Review Bombing

In an effort to combat review bombing, Valve has updated how user reviews are handled on Steam.

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veicht1868d ago

I don't know that I agree with these changes. It seems to me like a lot of the time the review bombings are deserved and are within the scope of a users own subjective review.

The article mentions a quote where it is said most users don't care about certain issues. This doesn't make sense to me, as the reviews are left by users. So if being bombed by enough people to make a difference, it stands to reason that it matters to a lot of the users.

mkis0071868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

Most users don't leave reviews. If most people cared about Denuvo or other "issues, " games wouldnt be profitable.Personally I glance at the % score but dont even read any most of the time.

starchild1868d ago

Sadly the vocal minority with an axe to grind are usually the ones review bombing. I've never seen a game be review bombed and felt that it was fair and reasonable. It's always the extremists involved in that kind of thing. The vast majority of gamers do not hate on games that way. They simply play what looks good to them and avoid what doesn't look good to them.

nyu11868d ago

" It seems to me like a lot of the time the review bombings are deserved and are within the scope of a users own subjective review. "

Come on, that's not reasonable.

You've got a vocal minority that gets pissed about some issue that might not even be directly related to the in-game experience. And they review bomb the game. That's bullshit, because most people who look at the overall review score don't know why it is that way. They just know that the game has a low review/recommendation score. So you can make a great game, but put DRM in it, and the minority who get overworked on that can have a big impact on review scores.

Razzer1868d ago

But there are times that a game is being review bombed for very wrong reasons. Firewatch, for example, was review bombed because the dev issued a DMCA takedown notice to Pewdiepie. Had nothing to do with the game at all. And I, as a Steam customer, don't want to see reviews that are tainted by bullshit agendas that have nothing to do with the game's quality. So Steam is hiding that kind of crap from my view and I'm good with that. They gave us all the freedom to show all reviews, even the bombs. This is a good thing.

rainslacker1868d ago

But if people can assign a score and just say it's something else, or not say why they gave a lower score, then what's it matter. Blocking the content of the review means you dont have the opportunity to decide if what it's being downgraded for is important to you.

I guess the question is, how do they determine what's a legitimate review and what's not. Generally, I'm not for any company to be the arbiter of the dissemination of information or quality. Review bombs are going to happen regardless, because people think it actually matters if they do it. If anything, the internet has proven how persistent people are in expressing their annoyances or issues with anyone or anything.

Razzer1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

"Blocking the content of the review means you dont have the opportunity to decide if what it's being downgraded for is important to you. "

So I can turn off the filter, see what the fuss is about, and then decide whether to turn it back on or not.

"Generally, I'm not for any company to be the arbiter of the dissemination of information or quality."

I'm all for companies providing tools to customers to help them make informed decisions. This does exactly that.

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MoshA1868d ago

Very anti-consumer and enabled by default. Hope valve keeps playing with fire and gets punished when Google and Epic Games get serious. They've had billions for years and haven't been spending any of it when PC is in dire need of triple A exclusives. So far Playstation exclusives have the best graphics.

starchild1868d ago

PS4 exclusives don't have the best graphics. They look outstanding for console games, but in terms of basic things like LOD, shadow resolution and shadow filtering, ambient occlusion, lighting quality, anti-aliasing quality, resolution, effects quality, etc they definitely fall behind what you can get on a high end PC.

MoshA1868d ago

I laughed at Rise of the Tomb raider on Ultra after playing Uncharted 4. Absolutely pathetic multiplat cash grabs. So happy exclusives are dominating harder than ever. This is just the beginning. Gow 2, Horizon 2, Spiderman 2, Death Stranding, Sotc creator's next game, TLOU 2 etc.

No multiplat will get GOTY ever again.

nyu11868d ago

Not necessarily true.

PS exclusives definitely have the best visuals in many regards. Things like characters, general environment design. Sure, maybe it's not in a fully open dynamic TOD world, but that isn't always the point. Their developers have just done many things to the best quality ever seen in the industry.

Ofcourse, there are many things that are very difficult to do, like some of the things you mentioned.

PCs will always be the best in this regard, but unfortunately there are no titles with the production value to compete with these exclusives. Apart from maybe Squadron 42.

Razzer1868d ago

"....triple A exclusives. So far Playstation exclusives have the best graphics."
"No multiplat will get GOTY ever again."

Why are you going ridiculously off topic?

rainslacker1868d ago

Really depends on the game. One thing I noticed is that everything seems to blend well and look cohesive on ps3. Same with xbox and switch too. PC can vary even on ultra settings, and sometimes with the sharpness that can happen due to better lighting or more filtering, some things look remarkable, but they don't quite mesh with the scene, so it's kind of distracting.

This is more likely an issue with the differences in GPU's and how they handle the rendering, and the fact that monitors are tuned differently than TVs for how they display their pixels.

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EmperorDalek1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

Playstation exclusives have the best graphics? Red Dead Redemption 2 on Xbox One X looks better than any game on PS4, so that's not even true as far as the console space goes. PS4 games certainly don't stack up to high end PC games.

Game of the year is subjective, many people would disagree with games like God of War and Zelda winning game of the year.

XiNatsuDragnel1868d ago

A little forced not a good idea

Cobra9511868d ago

Translation: They'll remove anything users say that they don't like. I'm sure that will lead to some spiffy freedom of expression.

Razzer1868d ago (Edited 1868d ago )

They are not removing anything. You can still see the flagged reviews if you want.

"Finally, we've also enabled you to opt out of this entirely, if that's your preference - there's now a checkbox in your Steam Store options where you can choose to have off-topic review bombs still included in all the Review Scores you see."

rainslacker1868d ago

I'd imagine that someone isn't going to be reading all those reviews. Could mean that a reverse bombing can happen as those that are upset could go in and report legitimate reviews. This could artificially lower the score if its coordinated enough.

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The Epic Games Store Has Two More Freebies this Week

It's time to add two more games to your library for free from the Epic Games Store.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle11h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18818h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio8h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning773h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga11h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218310h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan4h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus233h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv723h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10113h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos13h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-3h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac12h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10112h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead3h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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EGX and MCM Comic Con combine for the UK's biggest pop culture weekend

You'll know of EGX. You'll know of MCM Comic Con. Today the two events have confirmed that they'll be coming together under one roof

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