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Crackdown 4: What Would Make Us Care About the Next Crackdown?

With Crackdown 3 putting the franchise now in a desperate state, we discuss what Microsoft could do to make us care about a Crackdown 4.

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Sciurus_vulgaris2264d ago

There probably isn't going to be a a 4th Crackdown game.

Weeblordbad2264d ago

After CD3? Not a chance, the well has been poisoned.

UnSelf2264d ago

This was Real-time World’s baby. They developed it earnestly with its best interests in mind. It became the POS it is now thanks to a bunch of other studios tainted what RTW originally created

Spurg2264d ago (Edited 2264d ago )

-A designated first party studio to the franchise not commissioning it to a developer that has no experience making a good game and delivering on time.
-A borderland esque loot based game and a similar crazy story.

SCW19822264d ago

Sumo Digital has made plenty of good games. This was just a dumb decision for Microsoft to try to bring back a mediocre IP in the first place.

NarutoFox2264d ago

This is the first time I heard someone call it mediocre. Xbox fans would say this is a popular franchise and they love it.

oasdada2264d ago

What would make us care? Drop this pointless ip.. The people who are defending this turd, is because theyre MS's fanboys not Crackdown's

FanboySpotter2264d ago

Crackdown 3 is exactly what crackdown fans expected and enjoyed. It doesn't need some tinfoil hatting

trooper_2264d ago

Are we still playing 'place the blame' on the developer?

RauLeCreuset2264d ago

Yup. Sumo Digital just became the studio equivalent of Don Mattrick. A convenient scapegoat. Though, truth be told, I've seen comments trying to scapegoat Mattrick for Crackdown too.

rainslacker2264d ago

Can't rightly blame MS can we? They were only the producer and publisher, and had the power to allocate the resources needed to make the game good.

Sumo can make good games, they've done it in the past. I just think they weren't prepared for the cloud stuff, and that took up too much of their time trying to get it to work with the hardware they had available. They probably should have been more upfront about this ability, or what resources they needed. Moreso, MS should have really researched cloud compute, and what could be done on the hardware, before assigning it to the game itself, and providing the resources needed to make their vision possible. The cloud compute was MS vision, by both MS and Sumo's admittance. I actually think if Sumo had just focused on a strong SP and MP campaign, they could have maybe made something better, because the SP wasn't all that bad, just nothing special. The MP I've read mixed reviews about, but it seems like most find it rather bland, but considering how much time was spent on a marginal feature, which isn't even the bulk of the content in the game.

Imalwaysright2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

Oh yes, the people that made the game aren't at all responsible for its quality and the devs that make great games aren't responsible for their quality either https://media.giphy.com/med...

MasterCornholio2264d ago

If a reputable developer makes it. But please don't use Sumo ever again for the franchise or almost any game for that matter.

ziggurcat2264d ago

Based on what they had done to LBP Karting, and LBP3, I knew that Sumo Digital was going to botch this game - particularly the online portion.

Moe-Gunz2264d ago

They didn’t do the online portion I thought

ziggurcat2264d ago

AFAIK they did the whole game, but they weren't the original devs on the project.

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isarai2264d ago

Well i mean rule #1 give it to a dev team that actually WANTS to do it. And make sure they study all the details of what gamers liked about the original. Just let the game sell itself, dont bring any othe gimmicky BS

Dirtnapstor2264d ago (Edited 2264d ago )

What gamers liked about the original, which was innovated at that time...this formula was/is being used by many devs in a slew of games since the 360 era. I believe this is why Crackdown 3 is suffering now, they made a 360 game for the Xbox One Xers. Not going to fly well.

isarai2264d ago

The detail in the physics were what made the first one fun. Created a great formula for creativity and experimentation. Something 3 really didnt seem to understand.

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Tencent to buy Crackdown and Sackboy developer Sumo in $1.3bn deal

Tencent is set to buy Sumo Group in a deal worth $1.27bn (£919m), the companies have announced.

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Darkborn1387d ago

Tencent is really buying up everything. I'm surprised everyone is selling to them like this.

Rebel_Scum1387d ago

They want/need capital I guess.

darthv721387d ago

No way they are worth that much. They are a support studio. I guess tencent decided to throw them an insane price that Sumo would be crazy to turn down.

Its like the godfather. "Im going to make you an offer you cant refuse"

UltraNova1387d ago

Always the case.

Who owns the rights to Crackdown and Sackboy IPs though?

boing11387d ago

I've heard some time ago, that they created a special unit that has a mission to search for acquirable devs all around the globe.

-Foxtrot1387d ago

Going off their business practices they seem like a cancer in this industry

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blacktiger1387d ago

chinese currency, no limit in printing, but they are selling in USD

PrinceAli1387d ago

Maybe because they're a publisher of games with a history of success loool..?

barom1387d ago

Even Microsoft can’t compete with that kind of money.

Zeref1387d ago (Edited 1387d ago )

Uhm yes they can.. What do you mean?

Zeref1387d ago

Money talks, Besides, those developers don't need to worry about income anymore.

enkiduxiv1387d ago

I doubt anyone that matters to the actual production of the games is getting a raise. The only thing that has changed is that now they can't buy any Winnie the Poo products for their kids.

senorfartcushion1387d ago

Well they’re allowed. America and China are leading the world in toxic capitalism.

n1kki61387d ago

As publicly traded companies it's either they sell and potentially get more, or tencent initiates a hostile takeover and buys at least 51% of the shares. These companies might not even be amicable to the buy out but opt to take it because hostile takeovers are terrible.

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frostypants1387d ago (Edited 1387d ago )

Yep. A company that built itself by ripping off IP of small, innovative developers and out-marketing them. Tencent is everything wrong not just with gaming but corporate ethics in general, and the assymetric regulatory playing field we for some reason permit from the Chinese government. Egregiously corrupt companies like Tencent should be banned from the US market.

senorfartcushion1387d ago

The US market would take Tencent to dinner and have it naked on the bed by midnight if it could. America and China are as bad as each other

Lightning771387d ago

They can take Sumo those devs really aren't that great. Sack boys big adventure scored good however but Crackdown 3 wasn't great. They're 50/50 Sony will find a suitable replacement for Sack boy. MS desperately needs a suitable replacement for crackdown, if it's not already too late in terms of fanfare at this point.

Sumo to me isn't that big of a deal there are better devs out there.

senorfartcushion1387d ago

Crackdown 3 was cancelled and remade a few times. Hardly their fault.

darthv721387d ago

This is the same Sumo who made Outrun 2, 2006 Coast to Coast, Sonic Racing Transformed as well as Forza Horizon 2 on the 360. I think they are better than you give them credit for.

Wulfer1387d ago

You might want to walk this statement back. Why else do you think this game goes for over $200 now?

https://www.ebay.com/p/5144...

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ScootaKuH1387d ago

I'm surprised Sumo are valued so high

solideagle1387d ago

yeah, thats what I thought. $1.3 billion is very high, Insomniac sounds like a bargain deal for Sony!

chadwarden1387d ago

And they likely bought Housmarque and Bluepoint for even less than Insomniac.

phoenixwing1387d ago

at the two above me,
it's easy to sell for less when you know you're in good hands business and culture wise. I mean sure you could scratch out some extra money elsewhere but are all the people you know going to be taken care of when you get bought out? Sony takes care of them. Basically you can tell who's a scheming money scumbag by what ceo's/execs choose to be bought by. In the end money talks but there's extras to consider sometimes.

roadkillers1387d ago

I am as well. They do not own any IPs from my understanding...

DOMination-1387d ago

Me too! After looking them up, it seems like they were the parent of other game studios: Lab42, Red Kite, Sumo India, The Chinese Room and PixelAnt Games and also have some cryptocurrency technology.

They may also still hold the IP for back when they were Gremlin Interactive.. back in the Amiga days they were really a dev of some repute.

ScootaKuH1387d ago

Gremlin. Now there's a name that takes me back. Ocean as well.

Teflon021387d ago

They're not, it's likely them just throwing money around to make sure they have no opposition. Sumo is a valuable developer as they've assisted in alot of great games. They did LBP3, Sackboy, Sonic Transformed, I believe Assisted in both ModNation Racers and LBPK, Team Sonic racing, just to name the few off the top of my head that I own.

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IRetrouk1387d ago

I honestly thought ms or Sony would have nabbed them, seeing as they have worked for both on their respective ips, colour me surprised.

Bennibop1387d ago

It's a lot of money for a group with no ips, what would they have worked on to keep so many studios and staff employed. For now at least they continue working on ips for the likes of Sony and Microsoft.

IRetrouk1387d ago

Sony and ms have more than enough ips to keep em busy, the price would have been an issue though, that I agree with, just surprised is all🤷‍♂️

frostypants1387d ago (Edited 1387d ago )

Tencent doesn't exactly pride themselves on original IP anyway. They just steal someone else's. They only need developer drones.

Sephiroushin1387d ago

They have enough to make them busy but there is no point in buying the studio that high, they could just make the developers some offers and thats it... heck every single developer could just quit the studio and with what is tensen left? no point in buying a studio with no IP you dont own the developers

IRetrouk1387d ago

I already agreed that the price was high, still don't take away that they could have been used, and be useful to either ms or sony

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Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Preview/Hands on Impressions (BETA) - CG

Microsoft recently released their Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Beta which allows users the opportunity to stream Xbox games to their Windows 10 PCs or laptops. This follows on from being able to use the cloud gaming on mobile devices which works very well but is limited to the size of your screen. Having the option to play Xbox games with a larger display has its obvious benefits.

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Crackdown 3 8K 60 FPS - Possible at Low-Medium Settings with an RTX 3090

CG writes: Nvidia’s claims that the RTX 3090 can render games in 8K at 60 FPS, ring true for us in this video. We put the game Crackdown 3 through its paces with some interesting results.

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bunt-custardly1664d ago

If you've ever super-sampled anything you would know why it can make things look better.

bouzebbal1664d ago

Let's talk about powahhhh of da clawwdd for a second 🤣did they give up with this thing?

bunt-custardly1664d ago

Oh right, I didn't get the joke sorry, it just clicked. Hmm, is Crackdown 3 really that bad/universally hated especially as it's on gamepass?

SullysCigar1664d ago

My attempt at humour could have been clearer, in hindsight..!

Yeah, sadly Crackdown 3 had been hyped so hard and so long by Microsoft, that when it launched as a mediocre game, it got panned. It was mainly the broken promises about the power of the cloud I think that did it. This was the 'cloud power' poster child for years and it all amounted to nothing, which is a real shame, because if they'd realised their initial vision it could have been special.

bunt-custardly1664d ago

I do remember the original vision where entire buildings could be demolished but wasn't that feature relegated to the multiplayer mode? For me, Crackdown 3 comes across quite generic. I suppose if it had the full destruction in the story mode that would have been bad-ass. If Red Faction Guerrilla can do it why not CD?

FanboySpotter1664d ago

Crackdown 3 was made for crackdown fans. Hated by non crackdown fans. Enjoyed by crackdown fans.

MadLad1664d ago

I played it on PC for a little while via gamepass. It's not nearly as terrible as people would try to make it out to be, but it's the definition of a "meh" game.
There's fun to be had if you're bored.

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andy851664d ago

It's good it's possible but who would pick this over 4K60 on ultra? It would look far better

IanTH1664d ago

100%. This is obviously just showing what can be done with the current highest end hardware, rather than what should be. And if you're splashing out for an RTX 3090 over a 3080 for gaming (small performance delta if not using that huge buffer for productivity), then I guess you'll also consider splashing out for an 8k screen. And, I mean, you'll want to be able to do *something* with it lol.

outsider16241664d ago

Let's be honest here, even with extra high settings at 8k 120fps... it'll still look like crap. Sorry.

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