Player 2 takes a look at the open-world games that are likely to steal everyone's time in 2019.
Biomutant has finally arrived on Switch! Dive into a world of cute mutants and monster-bashing combat. Find out what we thought about it!
This game could have been huge, but sadly it fails big time at just being a lot o fun to play... Which is what it should be because that's how it looks when you first hear about the game.
-But at every turn they fail at fun to play.. What do I mean? Glad you asked -(remember Mario from Nintendo, any Mario, the first time you played it, there was one thing really clear right off the back) -It's super fun to play... Period, no matter what your doing it's fun.
Bungie once said the secret to good game design is take something that is really fun about the game, and extending it to all over the game.
Biomutant could have hit that bar with very little effort. The game has so much going for it. In my opinion the only thing they needed to nail was how it plays / and that's where it fails the most. This is a game that could have sold 23 million copies and instead did 1 million...
I'm still wondering "what do you mean". I've not played the game and am genuinely interested in what your argument is. But your argument boils down to:
Biomutant devs failed at every turn, because Nintendo made their games fun? Because Biomutant fails at "how it plays". Are we talking control scheme? Combat? Exploration? What exactly?
Again, genuinely interested to hear more of your thoughts on this because it seems you know exactly why this game didn't work.
@ Glemt
Ok, I'll explain... I guess if you have not played the game then you are lost on what I was saying. So ok I get that. -but I think for anyone that played the game you know what I mean because it stands out like a soar thumb, what's bad in the game.
I'll try to keep this short / I'll try / the game has bad combat, bad exploration, bad overall game mechanics, in the way it feels... Now mind you, that's just one persons opinion but it's also just a gaming thing. (meaning as a gamer you know what you like and what you don't) So for example:
Iin Grand tursimo 7 gas, or making the car go forward on the track is the R2 button on the PS5 controller / as a game designer you can change this to something else, but it is a bad idea because it's a universal idea.. Something people have just come to expect and something they know without reading instructions.
People start to play a racing game or just start driving and they expect R2 to be gas or to go forward...
So expectation is important in game design. (I remember the Watchdogs developer was doing an interview and he said all the playtest they did / people hated the driving, it didn't feel right. And it was bringing their view of the game way down. Because they were expecting it to drive like Grand theft Auto. And he said, "But our game is not about driving, that's a small part of the game." --> But that is Gamers Expectation.. or you can call it we are Spoiled because of Whatever game did driving really well / that becomes your standard or expectation.
Biomutant does not play like what you expect. It's very dry, very un-rewarding, and overall boring. Not fun.
Some will push pass this but most gamers won't. They won't forgive the game for that and will stop playing very quickly. Why?
It's like just how gamers are, some get really into your game mechanics and push past what's hard and find the sweet spot, but most gamers just want fun, so if it's not fun right off the back they stop playing or move on.
It's why a ton of gamers look at game reviews, they want to know if the game is any good, worth my time. Will it be fun to play in the end. People want their game time to be interesting and fun.
I can get into how you would do this step by step in making the game, but I don't think you want to hear all of that.
So let's just say this, Steve Jobs, never made or invented anything at apple, he was the person who decided what needed to be made or designed. (they put five of apples best iPods or Mp3 players as they were called back then on a table and Steve played with each one, and then he picked the one Apple would go with) that became the iPod we know today with the scroll wheel / he knew the feel of that would be a game changer it made it work in a way that was really interesting and fun to scroll thru your music. Keep in mind No one else of the people at the top of the company knew which one would be good or why.
Game design seems to be the same way, they need a Steve Jobs leading the team, or just someone who's really into gaming / someone that really get's Gamers, a gamer like me. To explain why this is fun and why this is not. (I think I really need to start a company to help game companies) I would have showed them how to make that game sell 23 million copies instead of 1 million...
Right now I'm sure Biomutant could have made the character walk 22 different ways, but only one of those ways is going to be really good, and fun to play, who is deciding which one is the one to go with? You need that person to make decisions on all aspects of the game.
Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.
Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player
The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.
It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.
Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.
If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated
Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.
Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.
@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.
You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.
Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.
And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.
The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.
More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.
Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.
And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol
Ammm let's see... That All-stars, Foamstars, Babilon 5 wass gaas...
Concord... can wait to play that...Marathon uuuu... Last of them gaas... U
Horizon Zero dawn has a project that leaked as a Fortnite lookalike.
They bought Destiny that is a dead gaas...people love ti.
Helldivers 2 was luck.
Jimbo was all in and pushed Sony single player games 5 years behind.
Spiderman gaas was cancelled... I mean every 1st party studio was doing gaas.
Bend had to pitch a gaas game... Open world coop something
I can't remember more... Of that crap.
@simpledad. Destiny 2 isn't a dead game. Its the number 5 most played game on steam. I dont play it, but alot of people do.
@SimpleDad
You failed to mention a single PS Studios game that has been released last 10 years.
Either your reading skills are crap or you think Sony own every studio in the world.
I rolled my eyes at concord not only was it just yet another cookie cutter hero shooter but that qucik look for the hero select.
Already has a free section then paid section along with a they/them she/her dei crap top right.
Nothing like a day off of work to fire up concord to read about the new characters sexual identity and or preference then a paywall do you want o buy this character shit like no i just want to shoot my gun have fun.
It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.
NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.
4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.
Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.
Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.
The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.
Dude is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a guy who's girl left him for someone better. Always talking about days gone sequel that never was, even though he is no longer at bend and hasnt been for a while. I for one am not upset about the lack of a sequel. It is one of the worst 1st party games in recent memory. Completely jank, played like an xbox game. The only redeeming quality was the hordes.
Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?
I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.
The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!
Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.
Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.
What a bootlicker statement.
@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.
Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol
Well I don’t want 10 live service games, but they have no problem doing that lol. Ugh.
Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!
Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.
It sold shit.
But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding
Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.
How does Bend Studio's underrated open-world survival title hold up after all these years, especially following its updates?
Yeah the director is still bitching about it 5 years later. Lol. It does suck though. Definitely plenty of room to do more with the IP.
I'm with you on that. I lived in the bend area for a long time and it was nice to see that part of the country in a game. As noah Gervais said (in his negative review that I don't agree with mostly) "day gone is more oregon than far cry 5 was Montana, and far cry 5 was pretty damn Montana."
The Motorcycle was actually fun and the idea and effects of the Hordes was actually great. Sadly, the zombies in the horde have no health bar so they drop like flies, even if you hit them like once or twice on the knee. Also, no Head Shot Only Mode in another Zombie game.
In the end, it was a very generic game, with terrible mission design and cookie cutter everything. And with terrible writing and terrible written characters, the whole thing was just an Asylum level bad. This was just Sons of Anarchy at home with Zombies but somehow worst.
But again, the motorcycle was fun though...
Best motorcycle gameplay of last gen!
The writing though really was the worst. Deacon was one-note and overly bitter, everyone else was a trope. You could cut off the first 30-40 hours of the game and then it would actually be a great game.
I couldn’t disagree more about the writing. I thought deacon, his wife, and his friend were all great. It’s one of my favorite open worlds ever to explore too. I had no interest in the game at launch but my friend loved it and kept urging me to play it and once I started I couldn’t put it down. One of my favorite platinums.
I really enjoyed it. Shame it never got a sequel. Unless that sequel was online focused.
Need to play this again with the 60FPS update. Haven’t gone back to it since I beat it at launch. Definitely underrated, just sucks that people bounced off of it because the first several hours are a little bit of a slog. It’s worth it though.
They bounced off of it because all anyone cares about is the last of us. It’s better in every way to the last of us for me personally. I enjoyed the first last of us game, but the second one was atrocious
Biomutant is one of my most anticipated in general. I have mild hype for days gone and crackdown.
Not really excited for any of these except maaaaybe Biomutant. All the others seem extremely generic. Grindy space online shooter, online post apocalyptic shooter and a zombie shooter... ugh
I am REALLY anticipating Biomutant. I hope it is not a let down. So far it looks great.
Biomutant has a lot of potential