Sony has begun turning down western publisher who wish to release Japanese games in the west that contain overly sexualized imagery.
Sony - Bans - Omega Labyrinth Z - Newest game in the franchise comes as Omega Labyrinth Life on Switch exclusively Sent - Nekopara Vol.1 to a Black Hole Worldwide. Switch version released worldwide except for Germany. Now this. Sony new policy is to get rid of these Japanese games in the west. Either publisher censor or get banned.
How, though? I really don't blame Sony for not localizing Omega Labyrinth Z. Also, what do you mean by "Black Hole Worldwide"? The game is still coming the west. I do have to admit that it's weird that they're banning Omega Labyrinth and yet they gave Nekopara a pass. And I do think that if Sony continues to make these decisions, Sony might make themselves more of a fool to the japanese devs. It happened with NISA, and now I'm fearing that this will be happening with Xseed. Is weird because the PS4 does have a slew of fanservice focues games in the west like Galgun. If I have to be honest though, heavy fanservice doesn't always make a great game. Tokyo Tattoo Girls had a lot of fanservice and it ended up being one of the worst games last year...well, I think it's a "game".
By Black Hole Wordwide. The game was delayed back in June 31st or July 1st ahead of the July 4th date worldwide on PS4 to Summer 2018. The Switch version came out in Japan and US on release. Europe version was delayed. The Europe version later got release with the exception of Germany banning it on Switch. The PS4 version has yet to be release in any region nor have we heard anything since the delay. The game has a option to pet and touch the cat girls even have a scene with CG no animation though where the cat girls are naked in a the bathroom with soap covering them. So the game has not be heard of since its delay on PS4. That why I say Black Hole.
Its simple, want Nintendo exclusives, portable gaming, and these games? Buy a Switch... Want Playstation exclusives and these games below buy a Playstation. Games skipping Nintendo- Kingdom Hearts 3, Monster Hunter World, Call of Duty BO4, The Witcher 3, Assasins Creed Odyysey, Red Dead Redemption 2, Tomb Raider series, Far Cry 5, Fallout, Battlefield, Darksiders, Soul Calibur, Spyro, Resident Evil 2 remake, Metro, Anthem, Devil May Cry 5, Devision 2, Sekiros Shadows Die Twice, ect...
I love world how well its streamline but the switch monster hunter is better even tho it do not have the new things that world have to make it easier it have over 100 large monsters vs world 32 large monsters, way less stuff to do in monster hunter world Assassin creed is on the switch in japan
Assassin's Creed Odyssey is on Switch KHIII is rumored to come to Switch Switch will get more Monster Hunter and Generation Ultimate is better than World. Has way way way more content
I can see you guys aren't long-time hunters.. MHGU has tons of monster because they literally only need to port the monsters from previous 3DS games (MH3U, MH4, MH4U). they used the same engine across all those games so really the number of new monsters are just a few now compare it to MHW which was made entirely from scratch: completely new engine, they have to redo the monster assets, they have to make completely new AI because now the monsters can interact way more freely to their environments than ever before. every. single. one. of. the. monster. in. MHW. was redone/made from scratch. not to mention all the new things aside from the monsters they have to make from scratch: the map is whole compared to separated parts of previous MH, completely new MP structure which doesn't need you to "restart" the map every time you finish a quest, etc. now, every game which will come after MHW will undoubtedly have ported monster just like how it is in the past, with an inevitable ultimate version that combines it all into one just like MHGU was. the point is it is ridiculous to compare the content of "best of" game which crams all of its generation content into one with a built-from-scratch next gen evolution of MH series
@DJ Monster Hunter Generations having more content doesn't automatically mean better. Subjective at best. KH3 being (potentially) on Switch isn't shocking, since other spinoffs have been on Nintendo platforms. Plus, it is already coming to X1, where just as many fans are eager for it - maybe even more. Lastly, AC Odyssey hasn't been officially released to the West. You are just as much cherry-picking as he is. And lastly streamed games (unless on PC) aren't going to become an instant sensation.
All the lists in the world don't change the fact that the switch is going to be getting a lot of good games this year, next year, and fit the rest of it's life, but as for this specifically, a lot of those games you've listed still either have a lot to prove [Anthem], or have equivalents just as good coming to Switch in their respective genre sometime soon [Bayo 3 to DMC5]. Oh, and MHGU is the better monhun for most series veterans. More monsters and more gear mean more to most vets than graphics and qol stuff. World is for the newbies. Sorry if that offends anyone else reading this.
there's literally softcore porn video and hostess management sim in Yakuza games, UNCUT cherry pick much?
Is Yakuza like Senran Kagura and Omega Labyrinth Z where there anime girls and you can touch them?
you can bet on them wrestling wearing scantily clad bikinis
Its funny how this game is getting more attention because of a removable of a sexual assault mode. Also find a reason to get on Sony back even though they dont even play these type of games.
So its okay for Sony to be doing these 80s & 90s video game censorship before ESRB existed and them forcing games they don't own to be censored or banned. Sounds like something yall defended Sony for with the locked third party account on Fortnite.
We should be on Sony's back about this. I hate censorship.
Do Japanese games sell?
Yes. Even if the answer was that they didn't it would be irrelevant. We all praised Steam for taking the correct stance; let the community decide what games they want to purchase on the platform rather than dictate what can and cannot be. That is how things should be.
You do not just throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. Things should be curated like on spotify, netflix, gamepass, xbox, ps basically every service in existence. Zero curation = entire onus on the consumer to find something good = consumer goes somewhere easier
Probably not these types of games. But it seems Sony is starting to crack down on a lot of these games exposure to Western audiences. Keeping them pretty much Japan exclusive where this type of thing is seen more. I seriously don't blame Sony for this. These games look like cheap exploitation for a some grimy group. What's baffling is that Nintendo is going ahead and accepting these games. "As Sony focuses on higher budget narrative-driven stories in the west, Nintendo will keep alive the niche gamer who just wants to play silly fun games and high budget first-party RPGs, something Sony hasn’t supported since 2014’s Freedom Planet on PlayStation Vita." Too funny, was just having a similar convo in another article about this.
They're not usually to the point of being cheap perversion or simulated exploitation. When you look at them in context of the actual game, they questionable actions that can be taken usually seem more satire due to their utterly ridiculous scenarios. Someone above called it an assault simulator, which is pretty much not true, because assault implies non-compliance from the receiving party. The "girls" within the games are not really saying no, and some people seem to think the "No means no" applies to the characters in context....when it's more that Japanese media tends to portray women as demure and supposed to say no....even when they mean yes. Differences of culture, and the media which surrounds it. The games themselves tend to fall into a power fantasy setting, where assertion of one's desires is seen more as a good trait, than something to be shamed. Obviously, a lot of that doesn't match up with western sensibilities, so people can take offense, and as far as Sony goes in all this, I can see why they wouldn't want this image to become something against them. Just look at the Vita. They had a run of semi-successful titles such as these, and some people were referring to it as a system for people who only want porn simulators. That being said, there are certainly games that go far beyond what we've seen released in the west that still get released in Japan. But I think a lot of them don't really try to get localized in the west, because publishers seem to think that all westerners are puritan fanatics. I can understand their potential reasons more for games which have characters who do look like very young girls, but that's only a sub-category of the larger genre, and the percentage of games which actually use that style of artwork isn't as high as some people say, although I've seen many think that all these games are like that. I also find it kind of ironic that Nintendo is more open to these kinds of things in the west. If anything, they were always seen as the more family oriented and much more adverse to this kind of content on their system. However, that perception was only in the west, because these games have been on Nintendo systems in Japan and Asia for quite a while.
Not when they're butchered and censored.
The good ones do, the pure fanservice games typically don't in the west. Which is what I think this is about, contrary to other speculation.
I am curious where exactly the level of tolerance is for what's acceptable. Sony does have guidelines for what is allowed in different regions, and each region has it's own laws that apply to any game regardless of platform. I think some of this is a non-issue, because already some developers were pulling back from the western market because of the current SJW climate which likes to paint all these things in a bad light. Even Compile Hearts, which usually only did some cursory censorship to remove things that just weren't allowed in the regions...like full on nudity of anime girls who may appear too young....have started to be more strict in this....probably due to NISA wanting it. NISA never used to care much, and I think became more liked because they didn't care much, start to really be more sensitive to any kind of controversy which might surround their games. This started not too long after Criminal Girls Invite released, where they got a lot of heat from people who never played their games, knew nothing about it or the context in which the content existed, and just made a fuss because it wasn't appropriate. That game was even censored from the original. Ironically though, that controversy probably helped sell the game more, and it was actually a pretty good game. I'm curious today what people might think of the uncensored Sailor Moon, which is now a pretty popular and almost mainstream anime in the US. Actual teenage girls, some under 18, which were sometimes shown nude, and occasionally having things done to them which wasn't really appropriate.
Yea. Is a niche but growing audience. But it looks like western political cencsorahip is scaring them.
Dumbest question of the year award goes to...
They have an audience. Otherwise this wouldn't be a topic because these pubs wouldn't bother localizing. The Vita had quite a few games that pushed the limit, and even received some "feedback" from "concerned" people when they released. Criminal Girls Invite I recall quite well, but it was kind of tame compared to some others. I wouldn't call them big sellers though. If you want to point to niche games, they'd be good examples. Also, a lot of people really misrepresent the levels of perversion that exist in them. Likely because they only look at it on the surface and remove all context.
My whole income comes from promoting Japanese media. Yes, they sell really fucking well.
I don’t blame them for trying to avoid controversy.
To me, a company imposing censorship and bans on commercial products aimed at a mature audience, is far more controversial than some of these games featuring some playful nudity, or sexual relationships. Counter-question: Would you still be okay with Sony 'trying to avoid controversy', when this was about violence instead of nudity/sex, and Sony would try and censor the next Mortal Kombat, God of War, GTA, Sniper Elite, whatever?
mature audience? We don't even have those games in NA. AO Rating is a death penalty for a game since no retailer will carry it. Not to say none at all are available but any game receiving that title isn't going to be carried by retailers. That's what I think of when talking about Mature Audience. Now I understand Senran Kagura and other games are rated M. I admit I'm not sure exactly how much they show either. Though after watching the anime a couple weeks ago I have considered picking up the Senran Kagura game that's currently available. From the videos I have watched it shows the twinkles over their breasts and..... I do admit I'm somewhat surprised by the stance Sony has taken while Nintendo embraces it. Though I can't fault Sony for taking this stance when, in this environment, censoring it is a wise choice compared to the media, government, special interest groups whose attacks when/if word caught wind about what particular games actually contain could be a wild fire. With the whole me too movement, sexual assault, and all the other BS both legitimate and not in the US atm.... So from their perspective it's not worth the blow back for the few hundred thousand gamers who would purchase it. Let's be honest, these games likely sell maybe a few hundred thousand stateside. And imagine the blow back on Nintendo, whose even more connected to young gamers, if people/media/government officials caught wind of what these games contain. Rating has no bearing still in the US and we're filled to the brim with idiots and self righteous zealots who jump on anything they dislike. as for your Mortal Kombat comment. That is exactly what led to the ESRB in the first place. The outrage that came from the blood and Finisher moves when the game was released on Sega Genesis. We have to protect our kids. The age old guise of trying to control anything disliked. But you are right, violence is completely acceptable while sex is not. And it's not Sony. It's the US who has an issue with it. How dare we have sex in our kids games Lol. Stupidity at it's finest but everyone suffers for it. People fear the unknown and stigmatize it. I can bring up several other topics that reflect just that but aren't gaming related. It's a shame. And here we're suppose to be living in the land of the free.
No I wouldn’t be okay with that, but that’s the least of my worries since those devs know how far they can go with violence and sex in their native land. japanese games are different and the devs and audience there are not as sensitive qnd SJW as in the west. It is what it is... Sony knows better about how far tyese jap games can go and if they think it wouldn’t be appropriate somewhere else then they are better off by avoiding controversy
We wouldn't be in this problem, if companies simply ignored any and all that aren't a part of their core consumer demographic.
I'd say every game we've gotten in the west is just heavily implied what is going on, and sometimes, if not most of the time, they do have some censorship in them. The Japanese market allows more than the Western market does, and not all of that is on the console makers, but on local laws, or just what the localization publisher feels is appropriate for the region its releasing in. Most of the people who actually do like these kinds of games though, would prefer a completely uncensored product. Some people seem to think that this is all about SJW, but that's not really the case. While that does have something to do with it, the truth is is that Japanese media portrays male and females much differently. Males are often emasculated in western media, and assertive men are often not portrayed as good. Women tend to be strong instead of meek, and more often than not, when it comes to sexual content, they're shown to be in control of themselves, as well as the man. Obvious examples exist otherwise, but overall that's how it is. Japanese culture and media tends to show the men as more dominate, and more assertive. Their will tends to be shown as something they should get. Women are often shown as meek, demure, and usually not outwardly receptive to a males advances. So, in the Japanese market, No often does mean yes. And often times, a woman will be shown as resistant through the whole confrontation, only to be happy afterwards. Its a male power fantasy that you don't see too often in western cultures. A lot of the people who play these games are more in tune with the cultural differences between Japan and western cultures. They accept them for what they are, and don't criticize the differences, but instead, embrace them and appreciate the art that surrounds the media. I assume for some it's because they do like this scenario of male/female interpersonal relationships, and I can see why, since they live in a culture which constantly shames them or emasculates them to the point where they might feel inadequate.
Seems Nintendo is loosening up and Sony is cracking down. Some are making excuses, but this is not good for fans who want them.
Sony bad, Nintendo good. We get it.
Hahaha the switch has been a complete joke this year. Especially compared to playstation.
@dogg Don’t forget that this year has not even ended yet.
No one say Sony is bad while praising Nintendo. Learn to understand that even Sony makes unpopular decisions sometimes. Some might like it, other might not.
More tears for Sony? Let me guess, "this is the next big smear campaign to make Sony look bad". Sony being in the lead I'm guessing they have an image they want to protect with the PS4. And after a lot of high profile, triple A, story driven, emotional, single player games they definitely don't want their audiences to accidentally pick up Super Panty Raider Hyper Z. They left it alone on Vita, because they abandoned it themselves, but their PS4 is a whole different story.
Oh like when Nintendo banned the blood in MK1? But, that was different right?
A smear campaign would be stupid. Outside of one game, are there really any reports about games that Sony has asked them to remove content, or censor it heavily? I'd imagine anyone who tried to smear Sony on this, I could easily look up some of their comments on the Vita, and find them referring to it as PedoStation, or some other such nonsense. The whole topic of what some of these games offer has been contentious since last gen when the whole SJW thing really went into full force. Even if Sony is asking for something to be removed, how often are we likely to know what that something is, and how likely is it we'd actually care about that game in the first place? There are some games in Japan which do pass the boundaries of good taste, even for Japan. I can see quite well why Sony wouldn't allow it, and it's even likely that such things were just them applying their long standing policies on what kind of content is acceptable on the system. This article makes it seem like Nintendo would allow this to go unchecked as well, but they have a lot of their own policies on such things for different regions. They might be more tolerant for the time being, but if they start getting the heat that Sony got on the Vita, I have a feeling they'd be much quicker to stop it than Sony has.
Its another case of conflict of interests. To niche companies Sony are giving them the cold shoulder and treating them as second class citizens while Nintendo is offering to distribute and market their games for physical releases. It resembles the vendetta corporations held against Nintendo during SNES and the companies looking for an escape route they are willing to take. In this case handhelds are where the biggest market is in Japan but with Vita leaving they are picking Switch as an escape route. How Nintendo treat this blessing on them depends on how cocky they get.
I say this as a person who loves the Switch. Nintendo needs any third party support they can get after the past 20 years of struggling with that. So they of course right now are eager to get anyone. So you're right,once they feel they got Wii money then the question is are they able to keep doing what they are doing or go back to pissing devs off.
Most of these games did better on mobile platforms anyways. I can't think of many games like these on the PS, or home consoles, that really made it. Even on the digital front, we don't see a lot of these kinds of games on the system, only the more tame ones. Senran is an obvious exclusion, but how many games like this could people name on the home consoles other than that? The things I see on the home consoles all have content that is more PG rated, although they tend to get the Mature rating because they have enough of the content to warrant it under the ESRB standards. ESRB looks more at the quantity than the nature of the content, and if you hit a checkmark of implied actions enough times, it automatically moves it up to the next rating. Moving to switch I do believe was just the more logical progression, since its the only portable market left outside phones. If the Vita was still around, I imagine that we'd still be seeing the games themselves, but in more recent years, these games have been pushing closer and closer to the line of what is considered acceptable....probably exceeding it sometimes. I honestly think this is kind of a non-issue overall, because to date, we really haven't seen games that take it too far on the home consoles anyways, and Sony is no longer in the portable market where these games mostly got released anyways. Also, there is really no saying what the cut off point for tolerance is on Sony's part is right now. As far as I can find, they only have one game where they asked a feature to be removed, and that was a fondling feature in one game. Knowing the games history of always going further than the last, maybe they just thought it was too much. Should Sony be the arbitors of what is acceptable? That's another topic IMO, but at the same time, i can see why they wouldn't want to be held responsible for the content, or gain a bad reputation for it being on their system. Even if they're open to non-censorship, it doesn't mean that some people don't see these companies as comlicit in allowing content which they themselves don't approve of. Its a controversy they'd likely prefer to avoid, because its a waste of their time, and there isn't enough of an audience for these games for them to take a stand as a publisher who believes in freedom of content over this issue alone. If it was something more mainstream....like violence or gore, then I bet they'd step up and say how they don't wish to curtail creative expression. But with small things like this, they aren't going to get enough of a community behind them, because most people don't care about these kinds of games, or they themselves believe they shouldn't be allowed on the system, or they shouldn't exist anywhere at all.
Well im sure we will see quite a few articles about it, since we know that Sony is going to let people change IGN's, and now that is doing Cross play.. we know what that means, lets find another stupid thing to overreact and hate Sony!
Oh yeah, definitely. Another stupid baseless article on N4G.
What can I say? Switch is the best place to play
I knew Switch would be the best place to play for JRPGs. I wish Sony well in their future endeavors, but their consoles aren't for me anymore.
Hahahaha, cute, but not even slightly.
The feature was in previous Senran Kagura games. New policy from sony smh.
PlaySJW-station Europe can censor all they want in the west, but you can still grab the smut in the east. Go to Play-asia and bring out the cash - the games are region free unlike Nintendo's.
Switch is region free now.
Switch region free, how did you not know, making a Japanese account is easy
Censorship is never the answer.
but let's be honest, how many of us ACTUALLY know of these games? alot of them are super niche games, who rarely get anyb sort of attention
I almost plated Estival Versus. I'm sitting at 97%. Cant plat the game because of some kind of item glitch. That mode was in that game, and it wasn't anything special, but hey, this is a great excuse to jump on Sony, so let's take advantage of that!
Better yet, how many actually play It? I see articles mentioning a indie game with boobs and it jumps to the top spot of the page alongside the likes of Forza and Spider-man, full of people excited to buy it. Yet, year after year these games struggle to find anything above half a dozen players as audience. I bet on PC they fare a bit better, since you can usually play with only one hand.
exactly my point. had to laugh about ur last sentence haha
I'd say a lot of people know about the Senran Kagura games, which is where a lot of this topic started. But if you look at the content that was removed, the feature, which has been in other games, does allow for much more interactivity with parts of the female body, whose portrayal on screen was never allowed by Sony's policies in the west. Some of the games I can see this applied to though go beyond even that, and probably would have never been allowed. I think this article is premature, as there haven't been a lot of reports of Sony saying that games couldn't be released here, just that they wanted one feature censored or removed for western release. it's not a trend, it's just Sony exercising their already established policies on the content matter at hand. As far as how many people play them....I'd say a pretty small part of the market. SK, is probably the most popular title in this genre on PS, and the series as a whole only sold 1.5 million worldwide as of a year or so ago. I know many Compile Hearts games, which make a lot of "perverse" games, usually only hit around 100-250K worldwide, with US/EU releases maybe being 1/3 of that. They are the definition of niche games. However, since I like these kinds of niche games....although they need to be more than just fan service for me to want to play them...I would prefer that they go uncensored. But, Sony is well within their rights to refuse certain kinds of content, and since they always have, I don't make a fuss about it.
“but let's be honest, how many of us ACTUALLY know of these games? ” Why censor it then if not alot of people know this game? Just let the ones who know it buy it and play it. Sometimes people make no sense just to defend something.
No big deal to me... i dont see Nintendo fans making a big stink about the biggest AAA games that are skipping the Switch. Where are those people? I think i speak for most gamers and specifically Playstation fans that if our platform of choice was to skip any games it would be these. Want these types of games? Buy a Switch... the same can be said for Playstation...
There are alot of big Switch games that will not be on the PS4 as well. And less games is a good thing now? The things some of you would say to defend a company.
Well if they arent region locked there are ways to get around it and there is always the option of getting a Switch. One thing is for certain, pandering to thr vocal minority puts you at a disadvantage.
Bad move sony. Even though handhelds and pc are more suitable for these types of games as well as indie games but you're losing a market you know. I enjoy some lewd games and often get them when they're cheap they're fun and funny meanwhile the market is oversaturated with violent video games yet no one gives a flying f***.
And we all go back to the same subject again, it's okay to blow heads around but everything involving something sexual is always a big problem, it's all a lot of pixel and nothing more.
I was really disappointed when I saw that they told Xseed to remove the interactive mode from the upcoming Senran Kagura game ( which previous SK games have had, and for God’s sake, have you seen the recently released Bullet Girls Phantasia?!) If this is the trend for Sony now...after being a fan since day 1 PS1...PS4 maybe my last Playstation. Don’t do this, Sony.
Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.